https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRaMxcHl8ewhttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/metal-base/the-metal-10-affordable-lpbf-metal-3d-printerThis shit looks insane. Almost $10k is too much for me, seems more suitable for business use, but in 5-10 years it may be a different story.
when the chinks clone it without safety and filtration
Chinese kids are already 3D printing metal rocket motors.
>>2982024To be fair you can bend a chineseium girder with your bare hands.
>>2981998That surface finish looks like shit
>>2981998>3d printed gearsno thanks
>>2984426good thing that for your typical machine shop, surface finish doesn't matter
i'm still waiting for desktop mills to become good-er
>>2982024Chinese kids print complex rocket engine nozzles, while Western governments are trying to ban 3D printers because they're so afraid of "ghost guns".The "Chinese Century" is no longer a meme
>>2982646At least they're making girders
>>2981998I would 10-15 years, provided that the world doesn't collapse and the 3D printing industry remains unmolested
>>2984535newton says no
>>2984620need to shoot more politicians, shoot them until they understand how guns work
>>2981998Post regular 3d printer.ABS with the occasional embedded rod or bracket is good for 90% of applications. I only heard talk of metal printers from people who aren't using what we have now and want an excuse to not learn.
>>2984426you know when you make raw parts the surface usually looks shitty until you polish or paint them right?
>>2981998learn to weld
>>2984640>shoot them until they understand the point of gunsFTFY
>>2981998Mommy! Daddy bought me a 3d printer for Christmas!!!!! Cough cough cough “inconel dust being coughed up”
>>2981998The Epstein class is already trying to take away the plastic printing we already have
>>2984646I remember you, post 3d printer post snap-on tools etc everytime I posted Then I posted like $12k in printers and tools and you never brought it up again and act like I’m the one who fucked up / was lying And accuse me of bragging everytime I point you you’re a liar
Can't wait for some fucking faggot youtuber to have 30 minutes rants on videos on how 3d printing is the best thing ever happened to tecnology and blah blah blah ofc sponsored by PCBway, I hope metal 3d printing never gets in the west those fucking people are gonna be so much more annoying just buy a milling machine and a lathe
>>2982646>To be fair you can bend a chineseium girder with your bare hands.
a 60W diode laser can melt steel together?
>>2984620>t. chinese propagandistUnless you guys figure out how to 3D print babies it's not gonna help you much.
There are lots of models that benefit from SLS even if they're still some kind of plastic. Metal would be great but the SLS process enables far more than that.
>>2988565Anon here, I live in America, I take no joy in our absolute downfall. I wish the Epstein class would just leave our printers alone, but they can't let the non-chosen have home production capabilities.And tbf, our nativeborn fertility rate isn't good either
>>2984620The ban is mostly in blue states because China pays them off to do it, plastic is cheap in the US and is a threat to China.
>>2988614Interesting theory, I haven't seen any proof of that, but I wouldn't be surprised.
>>2981998shortly before it gets banned because you can manufacture knives, gun parts or 'IP protected' manufacturer's spare parts
They can try blocking and banning homebased metal 3d printers, but we can just use ceramic nozzles and current 3d printer to open source our ownThey can try banning the firmware but it's all been reup'd all over the net, and I men people write their own encryption and DGAs now with LLMs so I mean they can fucking try bro but lolI mean Naval Intelligence wrote Tor, that's on them dudelike a mole hunt dudeWhich used to be really fun arcade game they should bring that one back lol
>>2988649>>2988652Guys you know you can already make guns and they're already banning the plastic printers right?
>>2988548Yes. In SLS the metal powder is heated until just below the melting point and then the laser just pushes it over the edge to fuse the material. The laser isn't heating from room temperature.
>>2988628China is using ab540 to teach it's students over people who actually live in California. Most of the community college bachelor's degrees are ran by chinks, and a huge fraud case just came up diploma mills there that has been used to scam millions out of the federal system for Pell Grants with fake students. Texas has a ton of cheap oil and so does California, but California is doing everything to destroy all the industries to keep prices profitable or at least less expensive so China can destabilize the economy since they are a major port. The by product methane is used for creating plastics and is so cheap it's almost free because it cost money to get rid of, this is a huge problem for China.
>>2981998saw this today.>https://www.scraplabs3d.com/product
>>2981998There's been a decade old effort from the reprap people to make electron beam melting a reality.It's going nowhere.This is arguably lower tech (no need for a vacuum chamber) but it's too early still.People have to figure out how to do cheap nylon SLS first and when that's done perhaps metal is an option.
>>2988565>muh birthrateYoull go from 1 billion to 700 million chinks and NOBODY will notice because ROBOTS will take care of old people.......
I am less interested in 3d printing so much as having home metal foundries
>>2981998Does this still need a 5k kiln. Doesnt matter how cheap the printer is if you still need 10k in accessories.
>>2988784I don't get why the US is at the forefront of this push against 3D printing, isn't it trivial to buy actual guns over there anyway? You'd think that the euro jews would be the ones more interested in stopping people from making plastic guns
>>2988565its almost as if fertility isnt important
>>2987477That wasn't me.Post employment.
>>2988565Well,...
>>2990411China is actually way more fucked than we are because they don't have enough women.
>>2990310It is a boogieman. The media isn't interested in educating you or informing you or even giving you the correct information about a subject so you can make your own decision. They want eyeballs so they can sell ads. That is it. What are your chances of being killed by a 'ghost gun'? Next to nothing. Hell, the fucking name alone was created to scare you. There were about 44k total deaths from guns in the USA in 2024. 62% of those were *suicides*. 35% were murders. The rest were law enforcement, accidents, or 'other' (someone from Florida probably choked on a gun or something).About 15k people were murdered by guns in 2024. Over 600k died from heart disease. Another 600k died from cancer. Fuck dude, you are twice as likely to die in a car accident than you are to be killed by a gun and car accidents aren't even in the top 10 causes of death in the USA. Suicide is though. So, if 3D printed guns become common, maybe the most like person to kill you with one will be yourself.
>>2982646Not an argument
>>2989025>because ROBOTS will take care of old peoplelmao robots like the woodchipper right zhang?
>>2982646Those jokes don't work now that most Western products are getting shittier and shittier. Almost every product has gone through enshittification, and that's not counting the products we just are importing from China but selling them here. As >>2984621 put it, we can't criticize if we can't even make things in the first place.A lot of the old jokes about the CCP don't work anymore. The "haha chinese surveillance" now doesn't work because we now have flock cameras and every western government rushing to implement Digital ID "Age Verification". Most European countries have speech and artistic expression laws that are on par with the Soviet Union.At the very least, China is an empire run by its own ethnic local people, with the goal of creating an empire for it's people. You can't even say that about our western empires, we fight wars and absorb costs for another country while mass importing hordes to displace our own people. Chinese students make metal rocket nozzles in school, meanwhile our states are trying to ban and restrict 3D printers. Atp, what is worse about China that can't also be applied to the west?
>>2991147We chop up less people for our vampire overlords than they do
>>2991148Fair
Is this the death of CNC milling?
>>2991147implessive
>>2991176I didn't say they were a bastion of freedom, far from it. Just that the West is becoming everything they criticized China for
>>2991176We block websites and raid server owners too, if you weren't aware.
>>2991440>Wesure thing zhang
>>2991152No. CNC is still needed if you want the strength of billet parts and have any kind of surface finish or tolerance requirements.Metal 3d printing is a good substitute for casting. And with only limited ability to replace forging. The parts need some post-work machining for flatness, roundness, or sizing. And full density requires autoclaving or Hot-pressing the printed parts.
>>2991484Did you make sure to upload your "Age Verification" ID before posting?
>>2991537was this supposed to be a witty retort wumao?
>>2991559See >>2991239
>>2991559cope
>>2991559Keep fighting for your israeli-occupied government10+ Palantir/Flock points
>>2991537ThisAll the "CCP dystopian surveillance" posting rings hollow now that we have flock cameras, ring camera tracking, the UK "Online Safety Act", and a bajillion other age verification laws either implemented or rushing to be implemented. Not even China mandates spyware on 3D printers, but our "land of the free" is planning to do so. They're planning to have spyware mandated in cars. Shills can cope about it, but all of this is public knowledge.
>>2991560>>2991561>>2991563see >>2991484i'm sure they'll appreciate some demoralized no-live faggot shilling for them for free
>>2991567
>>2991566>All the "CCP dystopian surveillance" posting rings hollow nowno it doesn't and you posting here is the clear proof of that because you'd be harvested for organs in chinkland for such statement if you were there now, no matter how much you samefag and spam propaganda for them.
>>2991569+50 cents
>>2991570>willing slave for megacorporationsare you fr? That's the West 100%>unironic EU shillinglemme guess, you think Chat Control, "age verification" and unlimited migration is a good thing
>>2991572>That's the West 100%lol, who's got suicide nets around every large plant?
>>2991573Like the ones on the golden gate bridge?I'm not even saying China is some sort of utopia, but you cannot be fr in saying China is the place controlled by megacorporations. Just look at any Amazon warehouseAlso you didn't say anything about Chat Control, "age verification" and unlimited migration
>>2991574china is a place without any rights, be it privacy, working conditions, property, surveilance or anything else. you trying to equate it to Europe and US just shows how pathetic and deluded you are.>Also you didn't say anything about why would i say anything about your shitty deflection? especially since i already addressed it.
>>2991575See >>2991239>especially since i already addressed it.You haven't actually addressed it. All you say is the same astroturf "china bad!"Yeah no shit, but lets not pretend the US/Europe are any better. In Germany, someone got arrested for replying to a politician with an emoji. "Chat Control" is complete surveillance of public chats>(vid of bot farm)How's the weather in Eglin?
>>2991576see >>2991570you'd be in prison for actively promoting an enemy state in china like that. US and europe are infinitely better and some age verification for porn will not change that until the police are picking people off the streets to beat and torture or weld them inside their homes to enforce quarantine.>In Germany, someone got arrested for replying to a politician with an emojimeanwhile you can literally disappear without a trace for complaining about local police.>How's the weather in Eglin?any more wumao buzzwords, chinksect?
>>2991577See, you can't actually contend with the idea that the West is doing bad China-esque things, so you just keep pointing fingers and doing whataboutism, even though I already said I don't think China is some perfect free state or whatever. But the matter of the fact is, in the West, China isn't the one trying to implement Chat Control, China is not the one implementing "Age Verification", China isn't the one putting up flock cameras, China isn't the one setting up data centers despite the protests of the residents, China isn't the one arresting people for "hate speech", China isn't the one trying to add mandated spyware to 3D printers. It's the "infinitely better" US and Europe that's doing those things. Ironically, you sound just like those CCP shills that insist China can do no wrong. Either you're an Eglin shill or just a bootlicker.>you'd be in prison for actively promoting an enemy state in china like that.Wow, it's almost like I'm not Chinese and I am just saying the West isn't some bastion of freedom or whatever propaganda line you believe>meanwhile you can literally disappear without a trace for complaining about local police.Yeah, that is pretty terrible! Any country that did that should be put under scrutiny, right? You wouldn't think that a country that did that was "infinitely better", right?>some age verification for porn"Our Age Verification vs Their Evil Surveillance"A Russian and an American get on a plane in Moscow and get to talking.The Russian says he works for the Kremlin and he's on his way to go learn American propaganda techniques."What American propaganda techniques?" asks the American."Exactly," the Russian replies.
>>2991577>any more wumao buzzwords, chinksect?Ironically, in most European countries, if you actually did call a Chinese guy "chinksect", you would be arrested for "hate speech".
>>2991575>>2991578>your shitty deflection"Our China Exposed vs Their Shitty Deflections"
>>2991578>See, you can't actually contend with the idea that the West is doing bad China-esque thingsIt's simply not, because china-esque things are much, much worse.>so you just keep pointing fingers and doing whataboutismthat's you chinkshill. how pathetic do you have to be to be sent to shill on a board of 20 people?>China isn't the one trying to implement Chat Control, China is not the one implementing "Age Verification", China isn't the one putting up flock cameras, China isn't the one setting up data centers despite the protests of the residents, China isn't the one arresting people for "hate speech", China isn't the one trying to add mandated spyware to 3D printerschina had things like this implemented decades ago and has complete control over their domestic internet and can see, track and ban any information without any law or warrant.>It's the "infinitely better" US and Europe that's doing those thingsdo you not get paid if you don't parrot this shitty ass list in your every post, wumao?>Wow, it's almost like I'm not Chinesenah you're just some hapa stirruing shit about countries that house you vermin>"Our Age Verification vs Their Evil Surveillance"one is tiny and limited while another is limitless, oppressive and extremely brutal.>You wouldn't think that a country that did that was "infinitely better", right?why are you implying that free countries do the shit china does? because they are not.>A Russian and an American get on a plane in Moscow and get to talking.>The Russian says he works for the Kremlin and he's on his way to go learn American propaganda techniques.>"What American propaganda techniques?" asks the American.>"Exactly," the Russian replies.cute anecdote spoken by an unironic chink shill. i bet your handler will be proud of you posting this piece of state propaganda.
>>2991579ironically there's been fewer people arrested for calling chinksects chinksects than there have been chinks arrested for comparing xi to winnie the pooh.>>2991581you're not even making any now sense wumao. try the next page of your shill topic list.动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门
>>2991582>It's simply not, because china-esque things are much, much worse."As long as the bad things aren't as bad as someone else, then it doesn't matter"This is next level cope>china had things like this implemented decades ago and has complete control over their domestic internet and can see, track and ban any information without any law or warrant.Wow, that sounds really bad, and it looks like you agree with me. You should absolutely not support any government trying to do this stuff>do you not get paid if you don't parrot this shitty ass list in your every post, wumao?Depends, do you not get paid if you don't parrot these shitty ass points in your every post, CIA?>nah you're just some hapa stirruing shit about countries that house you verminLol I'm not even asian, but it's pretty funny that you seemingly have a racial conflict with them. You do know that the regimes you defend want to "abolish racism" and have "hate speech" laws, right?>one is tiny and limited while another is limitless, oppressive and extremely brutal.See two kingdoms meme>why are you implying that free countries do the shit china doesBecause they do>cute anecdote spoken by an unironic chink shill. i bet your handler will be proud of you posting this piece of state propaganda.Lmao it's an old soviet joke>>2991584Wow a smaller country has less arrests than a country of over a billion?!>you're not even making any now sense wumao.What, they don't teach basic literacy at Langley?>reddit copypastaDoesn't affect me because I'm not Chinese or affiliated with the CCP. I can talk about the Tiananmen Square protests and massacre, Mao's stupid sparrow plot, their oppression of Tibet and Buddhism, and their crackdown on Winnie the Pooh. Now let's see you criticize Israel and the EU.
>>2991584>>2991587Watch this, CIA动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门What now?
>>2991587>As long as the bad things aren't as bad as someone elseyes, china and Europe are night and day in comparison.>Wow, that sounds really baddenounce the criminal oppression of the chinese state and its illegal communist government.>Depends, do you not get paid if you don't parrot these shitty ass points in your every post, CIA?what points, wumao?>Lol I'm not even asianyour mom sure was.> You do know that the regimes you defendunfortunately unlike china they're far from being "regimes", otherwise you'd be in prison being tortured for posting state propaganda right now.>See two kingdoms memesee your false equivalence meme>Because they dopost some examples then, because china does this on a daily basis and if you mention it you get imprisoned or killed.>Lmao it's an old soviet jokeactual soviet jokes joked about them being unable to criticise their own government unlike Americans.>Wow a smaller countrywhich one? you could collect every person jailed for hate speech in the west and it'd not even amount to the number of chinks splattered by tanks on the tinnamen square.>What, they don't teach basic literacy at Langley?they sure don't teach you coherency at the prison you shill from, wumao>Doesn't affect me because I'm not Chinese or affiliated with the CCPyou're literally shilling for them, quite blatantly. >Now let's see you criticize Israel and the EU.their oppressive laws made them 1% closer to a shithole like china which is inexcusable and all the laws restricting speech or privacy should be abolished.
>>2991588now you out yourself as a useful idiot shilling for china on a tiny forum to own the cia.don't you think your bootlicking is pathetic, given how you'd be tortured for doing the same thing in the country you shill for, bootlicker?
>>2991589>yes, china and Europe are night and day in comparison.Lol, lmao even.>denounce the criminal oppression of the chinese state and its illegal communist government.Sure! I denounce the criminal oppression of the chinese state and its illegal communist government.Now, denounce the criminal oppression of the EU and Israel and its illegal governments>post some examples then, because china does this on a daily basis and if you mention it you get imprisoned or killed.Sure, EU "hate speech laws", the people arrested for tweets in Britian, the teenage girl arrested in the US for making an Israel joke, Flock cameras, "Age Verification", the "Chat Control" push>post some examples then, because china does this on a daily basis and if you mention it you get imprisoned or killed.Now that's ridiculous. The max estimate for Tiananmen Square was 10,000, according to Western sources mind you.>you're literally shilling for them, quite blatantly."Comparing the actions of the West to China is shilling for China"This is next-level CIA propaganda.>their oppressive laws made them 1% closer to a shithole like china which is inexcusable and all the laws restricting speech or privacy should be abolished.That's all I'm saying. Maybe you're secretly a China shill!
>>2991590lol you mad. Was it meatloaf night at Quantico?
>>2991591>Lol, lmao even.concession accepted.>Now, denounce the criminal oppression of the EU and Israel and its illegal governmentsunlike china those governments are legal and their laws are for the most part just, even if they're not perfect and have detracted somewhat.>Sure, EU "hate speech laws", the people arrested for tweets in Britian, the teenage girl arrested in the US for making an Israel joke, Flock cameras, "Age Verification", the "Chat Control" pushmeanwhile china kills people without a trace for complaining about police, daily. i guess you concede that they're completely different and nothing alike.>Now that's ridiculous.how many people have been jailed for hate speech according to you?>"Comparing the actions of the West to China is shilling for China"pretending West is anything like china is shilling for china. don't pretend you weren't posting chink propaganda stories before that itt, nigger.>This is next-level CIA propaganda.reality is CIA propaganda>That's all I'm saying.that's completely different from what you've been saying, slimy faggot.
>>2991593unlike china those governments are legal and their laws are for the most part just, even if they're not perfect and have detracted somewhat.>reality is CIA propagandaAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHANo further comment is needed
>>2991592you're too afraid to address the point that you'd be murdered for your shilling if you did it in china, is this because you cannot counter it? or are you just cowardly because of your hapa genetics?
>>2991594concession accepted, chinkshill fled the thread
>>2991596You really thought you won?
>>2991597there's no "thought", you've basically acknowledged it yourself.
>>2991598Sure...
>>2991599that's right. you've fled like a coward, only capable of barking because the states you're shilling against are too kind to place a boot on your neck like china would.
>>2991600Interesting insight into the mind of an unironic government shill
>>2991601>Interesting insight into the mind of an unironic government shillironically there's zero self awareness in this statement, although this was already clear when you started spamming replies in panic.
>>2991602Says the "anti-authoritarian" who thinks the US and Europe are "too kind"
>>2991603they're too kind to treasonous vermin like you. i've already said that you deserve to be treated like china treats its dissidents but i guess you, lacking any self awareness, missed that.
>>2991593>>2991600>>2991604I am from Israel and these are my posts
>>2991570>EU>White man>daring to make racial observation>not sucking China's cock because at least it's not the meanie AmericansNAFOtards really do live in another universe
>>2981998I suspect about 10 years. Metal 3D printing is at the stage where plastic printing was in the late 90s - early 2000s
>>2991718>>2991726>runs away and then comes back a day later, this time with some zigger nonsense insteadwhy aren't you at the front, zigger?
>>2991801Why aren't you, anon?
>>2991832what front would that be? unlike ziggeria there's no conscription or manpower shortages in my military.
>>2991718>Waited a full day after losing the argument so badly and the best he can do is squeal about jews again.chink/mongoloid bootlickers are really the lowest creatures imaginable, right down there with unironic communists.
>>2987477
>>2991600>>2991604spiritually israeli posts>>2991837oy vey!
How expensive will the "filament" be?
>>2988889>huge problem for ChinaDull. China is controlled by the same global oligarchy as the US/EU.The oligarchy are an invert sex cult (elite gender inversion is what the interwebs have been calling it). It's all fake and gay, everything you see in the media is fakeButler PA: fake and gayCharlie Kirk: fake and gayRenee Good: fake and gayPretti "shooting": fake and gayJFK? Fake and Gay.Nukes: super fake and gayLook at the First "Ladies" and it's obvious, what's less obvious (do to decades of testosterone use) is that all the "men" are inverted as well, but look at their rounded skulls, sloped shoulders, close-set features, and in-line footfall gait. Female skeletons. They are all inverts, just like Melania, Big Mike, Barb etc ad infiniumInversion is what Carpenter was referencing in They Live. Freemasonry, like Jews, like Templars etc are deliberate astroturfed red-herrings, game theory it out: why would They have publicly identifiable allegiance? They wouldn't.But They do exist, and They are an active, malicious cabal, so how does it actually work?Elite Gender Inversion is not Baal or Baphomet or Saturn or Satan worship (tho They probably worship all of these false gods), it is the means by which They stay biologically distinct and separate from Us and maintain Their information asymmetry through collusion.They form a distinct separate superorganism that's been parasiting from Us (the human superorganism) for at least 300 years. Information and game theory preclude the oligarchy being a rigid hierarchical structure, it must be an organic system or it would fail to organize effectively, EGI is that organic structure.Open your eyes, see the theatre and you will no longer fall for Their lies.
>>2990452>They want eyeballs so they can sell ads.The media is the oligarchy's propaganda machine, They don't give a shit about fiat that They literally create out of thin air
>>2991884TRVTHNUKE
>>2991885TRVTHNUKE 2The media is basically a giant PR firm for the elites
>>2991876the post about treating you like china treats its traitors really stung, didn't it?
>>2991537>>2991566>>2991572It's pretty funny how the epstein class looked at China and went "damn I want that too"
>>2991566>Not even China mandates spyware on 3D printersI mean, yea they do, and a lot morewe're heading in a very bad direction, but China is by no means better, and has been where we're going for quite some time.but maybe we should focus on fixing the problems instead of arguing over which place is worse, unless we only care about what lets us complain more
>>2991908Based and true
