i’ve been able to trap them easily using these live traps and peanuts as bait. But they keep coming back, so I need to find out how they’re getting in. I guess that they’re coming in somewhere around the sill plate. But these are deer mice, I think, so they could be climbing up higher and finding an entrance somewhere else. I’ve heard that it’s fruitless to try to seal every possible entrance. Should I just get a cat?
>>2982780cat
>>2982780An actual feral cat like from a farm will kill enough mice to live. That's it. The cat doesn't understand you want it to catch mice. A domestic cat is useless.If you want to jut not see the mice any cat will do. But they will still be in your house touching your stuff and crawling on your face while you sleep.It's absurd to me in this age of technology that you ant simply point couple of cameras to track down where they come in and out.It's not impossible. In theory it's easy, it can just be a lot of work if you have lots of holes and your building is sloppily made.
If you find the hole stray foam plus steel wool keeps them out, they can't chew though the steel.As for entry points around the house plant some peppermint if you can, they hate it.
>>2982780If you are in the country attracting owls would be a better bet. Cats would just be food for the local coyotes.
>>2982811How do you attract owls?
>>2982813mice
>>2982780kill traps. like a dozen. when I lived in the country relentless kill traps (snap never glue or poision) were the only thing that curbed them. chipmunks need to be dropped 5+ miles from your attic, i've gone 10 miles with mice idk if the same ones came back but once I switched to snap traps they mostly stopped.
>>2982810you can get peppermint bags too, those things last 5 years and can just be tossed into spaces.electronic deterrents do NOT work at all
>>2982811stupid city faggot>>2982813girl owls, duh
>>2982819I was just reading this study. I didn't realize that deer mice in particular can travel miles to get back home. I'm tempted to mark the ones I'm catching to test this out. Caught another one last night, but now I'm assuming it's the same one I caught the day before and released about a mile away.https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/5/1/99-0125_article
>>2982780bro there is no unlimited number of mice in your area - I can guarantee that. You should just kill them once you trap them and eventually you will deplete the local mice population
>>2982787>A cat kills enough to liveYou don't know shit about cats. They are one of the few animals that kill small game just for the pleasure of killing. That said, rat terriers are better at actual rodent elimination.
I got another one overnight. I'm on a streak of about one a day. I released yesterday's mouse about 3 miles from home.
>>2983051Draw dicks all over it so you'll know if it's the same one coming back. Bonus points for dousing it in tuna juice or something so it has an extra fun trip avoiding predators.
this is going to probably come off as horrifically callous but, good god, you people need a reality check.Mice are disease carrying rodents. Mice are the vector that move ticks large distances. If you see one, there are probably 5 to 10. They breed insanely fast, you have got to get rid of them. They have litters of like 10 to 20 horrifically often. Once theyve made a nest, they can remember it and fucking smell it even if you've entirely gotten the last generation. They wiggle through cracks so small you wouldnt believe. They are a pestilenceyou go get the jaw traps with the claw edge, and the little circle you are supposed to put the proprietary bait goo in, you instead fill with super glue and you glue a raisin down. You then embrace your role as the harbringer of rodent death, and every morning just throw the bodies in the woods unfortunately, some things cannot be allowed to take over our conditioned spaces. Bears, rodents and bugs all need to be managed. alternatively, using a small piece of wire to tie a raisin down to the old style trap works as well. i like the jaw type ones because they are so easy to reset.im sorry. drop your balls and kill the damn things
>>2983058>using a small piece of wire to tie a raisin down to the old style trap works as well.Truth. When I was a kid I figured out that gluing a piece of cereal to the trigger got even the sneaky fuckers that would lick off peanut butter without springing the trap.
>>2982971>rat terriersbut then you have another rodent to take care of...
Anon you missed the part where the trap is supposed to kill the rat. Wether its glue trap or metal thing that thing is not supposed to live afterwards.
>>2982813By being a bit of a hoot
>>2983058I normally don't like killing things but if they're getting into the cars or the house I have buckshotted them out of trees and stomped them to death after them being a nuisance to me for so long.the wires on my car are worth so much more to me than any living thing.
Glue the spring trap to a board, tie the food to the lever for trap. Keep killing until they are no more.
>>2982810>>2982820Do peppermint candles work? Wife loves eucalyptus candles, so might be an easy way to delegate that task.
I have a mouse living around my house, it's been there for years and I've seen it out in the open. I didn't think it was anything to worry about because my foundation is solid concrete without any gaps and goes up a few feet off the ground, but the thing you guys said about crawling through cracks has me concerned. My garage doors don't go down all the way to seal and something small enough could crawl in. Recently something has also started digging holes in my lawn over winter and once the snow melts you can see snake like tracks that they were running through under the snow.Is it time to declare jihad on the local fauna?I have wondered why it hasn't been worse because I live in a subdivision right next to the woods, but there are always coyotes and hawks wandering around.
op back again. I haven’t caught or heard a mouse for the last few days. the last three I caught I released several miles from home. one of the reasons they had gotten so comfortable here is that I have a parrot who eats seed. the idiot takes whatever seed he doesn’t feel like eating and throws it to the ground. obviously I vacuum it every day, but it’s impossible to keep up with. I first knew there were mice from seeing the droppings and then hearing them climbing within a wall. the walls are old plaster ones, so you could hear them clambering up the lathe and plaster keys. I’m not sure if it’s always so easy to catch them but one thing that I think helped was using the peanuts that they were used to from eating the bird’s food as bait. previously I had tried peanut butter, which is more commonly recommended, without success. also, while I don’t like killing the mice, if I lived west of the Mississippi and caught so many deer mice, I would just kill them. the chances of them carrying Hanta virus are pretty big there, and it’s worth just killing them.
>>2983423you can hear mice in your walls, they are destroying and infesting your living space, it is absolutely worth your time to kill them where you are you little bitch
>>2983324>I have a mousethere is no such thing as a singular mousespring traps are finea cat obviously works well toobut a true final solution to the mouse question is and always will be fastrac contract blox or any bromethalin based feed baitbuy a few little plastic bait holders and fix them around your property and spend the 60 bucks on a few pounds of this stuffthis also has the advantage of poisoning the mice so they leave to find water and die away from your shit shop you don't have to deal with clean upget any pest control company to give you a quote and they will all recommend and try to sell you on having them put down bait on some recurring schedule so they can constantly bill you, but you can just buy the exact same shit on amazon
>>2983058this anon has it.also, related: last year I set a trap on top of an old wood stove and a lil' motherfucker came running for the trap the second i put it down, must've been hiding behind a jar or something. faggot looked at me briefly, then sprung the trap. picrel was the bait i used.
>>2983053>dousing it in tuna juice or something so it has an extra fun trip avoiding predatorslmao so fucking cruel
>>2982787>The cat doesn't understand you want it to catch mice. A domestic cat is useless.you're a retardrats are terrified of cats & the smell of cats, it'll be enough to keep them out
>>2984229>a cat obviously works well toonooo, predator prey paradox.predators are efficent hunter meaning they go for the weak and easy meal, once the old are dead that leaves more resources for the fertile to eat and reproduces, non territory hunters like cats increase prey pops. few animals will hunt to extinction; humans and dogs have documented history of hunting species to extinction. .
>>2982971I actually am a cat so I do know a little bit about it. Hunting for fun is nothing the same as hunting as job to keep your place pest free.>>2984578This is absolutely not true lol. At all. Both mice and rats, if hungry enough to find a way into a house with humans but no cat, aren't going to give a flying fuck about a cat.If you get a cat, the rodents will hide. The will not be eradicated. They will still be climbing on your surfaces and dragging their balls across your face while your asleep.The solution is very simple but extremely tedious. Fill every small gap where a rodent could enter. And that will end it.
>>2984753That's assuming your cat will even kill them. I've had cats that would legit just stand there and watch the mouse eat.
>>2982819This, rodents are smart. We kill them not because we hate them but because they are smart enough to be trouble. Can't say that about lizards and the like. Lizard gets in your house just put it out and it will likely not come in again, because it was a complete accident that it came in the first time.I use snap and glue traps. You gotta kill them yourself if you glue trap them.
>>2983303Rodents are mammals just like you. They functionally have the same organs and senses you have. That's why they test chemicals and drugs on them before they test them on humans. So no, going to Bed Bath and Body works to buy a bunch of candles won't change anything.
>>2982787Some domestic cats are pretty good killers. In my experience the females are way more brutal and willing to seek prey.
>>2983051Stop releasing them. Just toss that trap into a bucket of water and come back ten minutes later to empty it. Leave the corpses around the exterior of the home as a warning.
>>2985033>glue trapAbhorrent
>>2983058kek what a faggotEveryone that I ever heard with this KILL DA MICE point of view is a manlet, a Redditor, or brown. Only a retard would find satisfaction torturing a small animal with a glue trap. Go watch videos of glue traps on YouTube. It's always some fat fuck retard who is super proud that he outsmarted a rodent. I'm serious, find a video of a guy using a glue trap on YouTube who isn't a wife guy/cuck.I knew a guy (5'4) who had a Resident Evil style basement. The kind of place if you brought a women home from a club she would run away. He was an ugly zero viewer fortnite streamer who was always bragging about glue traps. "We are at the top of the food chain" /r/atheism Reddit 99IQ comments. It didn't take long to realize he took some sick pleasure killing these things. OP is actually using his primal hunting skills by catching and releasing them like a real man would. Do you know how hard it is to catch a mouse without a glue trap??? Anyway, OP your place is dirty. If you have mice in your home, you are a dirty third worlder or a retard (or both). Mice find shelter where they can eat. You obviously have food somewhere in your house. You need to clean your house and spend $12 on crack filler (they sell a poison kind that repels them). If you have a bird feeder or your neighbours do, forget it you lose.>hurrr they carry diseaseshttps://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/cpg-sec-555600-filth-insects-rodents-and-other-pests-foodsWe really need the /sci/ math captcha back because some of you are stupid and dangerous.
>>2982780Cat
>>2985151Not as abhorrent as giving your children or live in grandparents the bubonic plague.You learn to live with your actions. I don't like killing mice but I gotta do it and I own it. Where snap traps don't work glue traps do, just toss them face down in the water and throw them in the trash.
>>2982787>But they will still be in your house touching your stuff and crawling on your face while you sleep.Are you talking about the cat or the rodents here?
the mouse is not falling for my looney tunes ass trap (the croutons he chewed a hole into were placed in a bucket and I spray lubricated the sides of it)
>>2984229>bromethalin>bromethalin>bromethalin>bromethalin>bromethalinthere's a reason professionals use this to treat/solve mouse problemsit's cheap, extremely effective, and doesn't leave bodies around the propertyadditionally you can leave bait traps around to prevent further micesure, traps can kill individuals but bromethalin will wipe out all mice that decide to get near your house
>>2982780Both cat and sealing up your house. Metal mesh is your friend
>>2985246bros can jump bro
>>2985246Fill the bottom with soapy water, anon.
>>2983051Why did you release him dumb ass?Drown the fucker
>>2983058Based. I actually love the glue traps because when I find them the fucker knows it is game over. I'll even dip them in buckets of water over and over again before I put it out of its misery.
>>2985282What are you even supposed to do with them after they get caught in a glue trap? You're likely to kill or maim it just by unsticking it. Just get a snap trap or poison it. At least it won't suffer. Glue traps are for psychopaths.
>>2985281>>2985282post your skin color
>>2985283>You're likely to kill or maim it just by unsticking itKek you think i'm trying to unstick the little fucker?I'm killing them slowly first with water when I find them for getting into my shit and fucking it up. Fags like you are the worst. They're pest and vermin deserving of a painful death.
imagine posting bait in a thread about mice and getting no replies.fagyou know who you are
>>2982821Having a cat in the countryside is straight up retarded Fucking everything up because you're too stupid to get and train a rat terrier
>>2985154No need for torture. Yeah that's fucked. Just kill them.
Mice might seem like they're a pest, but they're actually very clean and orderly. Rather than using peanuts as bait in traps, you should instead designate a part of your property for us to live in and leave peanuts there instead (leave some fruit too). I did this and I've not had trouble since.
I fucking hate cat people but theyre right. Cats are your only true help to getting rid of these pests. Nothing else. Not these bullshit retarded gimmicks or organic poisons. Just gotta find a way to deal with cat urine
My mom's trailer had a mouse issue and killing them wasn't enough because they just kept getting in. I emptied a kill bucket of 4-5 of the fuckers every morning for a week. It was at the start of the winter too and one morning the bucket was full of micicles. Felt bad seeing that.There's a powder you can get that's UV reactive that you can put in a tube with bait at the end so they get covered in it. Let them take the bait and go back into the wall, then shine a UV light to track it's little pawprints and find out how it's getting in. Stuff a copper sponge in it and fill the gaps with spray foam.Turns out the shower was installed by some brown fuck and had a hole the size of a tennis ball next to the drain pipe, like they cut a hole in the floor to pass the PVC through and never closed it up.After fixing that and a couple small gaps between the frame and the body, we've gone a whole year with zero mice.While drowning isn't the most humane way to go, I once had a retarded mouse set off a snap trap from the wrong side which got his back legs stuck. Poor bastard dragged himself to another trap which got set off without hitting him, but instead launched him with his trap into a third snap trap that finally got his head. Got it on a trailcam I set up in front of the traps, otherwise I'd have no idea how it ended up like that. That was when I decided a bucket trap was cleaner and less likely to fail.
The animals are infesting generally for food. Sometimes it's pantry. I always see this with dog owners. The mice run out, steal your dog food, and drag it underneath a cabinet or into a wall. Mice can climb almost everything. They might run up a piece of trim into your ceiling then from the hvac through the entire house. The best deterrent is to not feed them. Absolutely zero dirty dishes, food stuff not locked into your fridge, crumbs spilled on the floor, pet food left out, unclean cooktop, infested cabinets with baking goods.>>2982810I prefer concrete patch. It looks better and they won't be able to dig through it when done correctly. I've seen the foam reopen and Great Stuff is as unsavory in of itself as the vermin.
>>2985249then you have dead mice in your walls that smell like absolute ass. that smell sticks to your clothes too depending on how bad it is.
>>2986330cats dont work they just make for sneakier micethis is why they invented terriers
>>2987608God you people are insufferable, annoying as hell, and cannot help yourselves from spewing incorrect garbage.Mice invade buildings for the same reasons you do. It's a hell of a lot nicer to live inside a building than under a stump. Are they attreacted to food?yesWill eliminating food sources result in mice ignoring your car, shed, house or any enclosed space made by humans?NO you brain dead fucking retarded internet dwellers
>>2987621factually incorrectyou dumb fuckyknow what also smells anc causes skin and eye irritation? pink insulation. you ever been bothered by it in your living room? NOdrywall is a vapor barrieryou dumb fuck
>>2982819This is the answer.I've dealt with mice infestations myself.You have to KILL most of the population in a short period of time, it's the only way. Afterward, do your best to seal up the home to avoid future infestation.
>>2982780fox urine pellets
>>2987840Renee I can't keep them out of my car.theres nothing I can think of doing
>>2987910This is really the one that blows the hole in the "ohhh they're just cute and after foooood you slobs" bs.The fact that there's people who feel killing a mouse is wrong is truly a representation of the failure of our society via removing meaning through making life to comfortable.People fought and died for America so you can order a fucking plastic live-trap for mice.Disgustingplease, someone say reddit spacing. i dare you. The reason they love cars is the HEAT we add to them when we drive, it's way drier inside a car thwn nature, and again, the lil man-made cubby holes are nice for them. Like your bedroom.
>>2982813Plant trees where they can perch and/or nest.
IME the only way to deal with mice is to find the hole where they're getting in and plug it with steel wool or hardware clothUntil that time that you fix the entry point(s) you will always be dealing with them.Next time you build something or do a renovation don't do a shit job so you don't create new mouse holes
>>2982783> catthey don't do jackshit. now that they need to be catered for like heavenly creatures that need constant feeding and coddling. the rat would probably adopt it for emotional support.
>>2987621>then you have dead mice in your walls>bromethalinno retardbromethalin dehydrates mice and naturally forces them to seek waterunless you have a water source located in your fucking walls they won't die there
become friends
>>2983051Based fuck the faggots saying to drown it, you're doing the right thing. Make sure to release it in nigger neighbourhoods though so that it has enough to eat.
>>2989748> unless you have a water source located in your fucking walls they won't die thereI knew that you Americans have some weird ass hollow walls for vermin to live in, but I didn’t know that you don’t even have water pipes running in your walls. Do you wash yourself outdoors or what?Mice I don’t really care about. There’s probably a bunch in my garden, providing a food source for bigger animals, don’t really care, I don’t see them and it’s not like they can open doors and get into my house. But rats on the other hand. Fuckers figured out my compost is nice and cozy. Trapped a few, this however, wasn’t so lucky. Apparently I only got it at the eye and not the brain. Tried stabbing it again, but its little heart is hard to hit. Poor fucker had a rather painful death.
>>2991078>I knew that you Americans have some weird ass hollow walls for vermin to live in, but I didn’t know that you don’t even have water pipes running in your wallsmight be one of the most baffling, retarded things I've read in /diy/
>>2982780bucket of water, & peanut butter on the end of a long stick over the water. the mice will climb the stick to get to the food, and fall off & drown.
>>2991078the mice dont bother you because if you have rats the rats eat the micerats are horrifyingyou stay over there, Ill stay over here.again, insects, rodents and scavengers need to be managed. there's a million places in the world I dont think you need to exterminate all rodents from.The inside of your conditioned living space should be rodent free. The ones that have learned how to get inside and live inside unfortunately need to be killed. I would be very serious about washing my hands after live trapping and transporting untame rodents for miles. with the hantavirus ship thing going on, obvisously caused by mice or rats on board the ship, I can only can only shake my head and wonder what the hell you people are thinking
>>2991175Hantavirus has been endemic in the US for 30 years.There was probably no.human-human transmission, there was just so much rat shot on board they couldn't figure it out
>>2982810Not only did the packrats get past the foam+wool, they then stole the remaining steel wool and put it in their collection of shiny things in a nest under the house as an extra 'fuck you'.
>>2989565Some cats are defective.Others know what to do.Find yourself one that isn't pampered.Or glue traps. Everyone is like "but glue traps are cruel". Not as cruel as infestation.
Peanut butter and snap traps. It's all you need
>>2982810>plant peppermintGet it dry. Any kind of mint will take over your yard, and your neighbor's yard too
>>2985154where the fuck did he talk about glue traps?
>>2989565you're not supposed to feed it.
Mice are very cute. If i had one id probably get it a cage and feed it little snacks
>>2985288Is that a dude?
>>2985249Can't get that in the UK sadly. They go on about how bad anticoagulant poison is (or might be) for the environment and then that's literally the only type you're allowed to buy. Plus we have high rates of resistance. Pest controllers have access to some acute poisons but if you want to deal with your own problem here it's better to just buy 20 snaps
>>2982780>>2989565>>2992803>>2994603cats. see >>2982783my cats have food, but i let them go outdoors freely.sometimes they bring in field mice, other times rabbits, birds lizards or squirrels.in order for them to hunt, you need to show them the outdoors and let them explore.watch out for dogs, hawks and owls, though in the city that isn't that big of a problem.
>>2985151don't care, sometimes I forget they're there and I come back to a little decomposing invader. Sometimes they'll jerk around so much while stuck that they move the trap and I locate it by mistake. Spiders are on sight as well.
>>2982813By knowing who's who.
>>2983058100% I killed one once by smashing it with my deodorant stick lmfao
>>2997286had one in a trap that I didn't want to just throw away still alive, put the trap in a bag and one good smash with my snow shovel handled it. Arguably one of the nicer things I've done for these little shits, usually I don't care.
I get the logic of not wanting bait shyness but I just want to kill these niggas give me that shit
>>2982780>how do I keep them out?Pests aren't something you keep out, they're something that you don't allow to leave. Take the trap in your pic and drop it in a bucket full of water.
>>2983051Mice are smart, once a trap kills a mouse and it leaves the scent of death on it, they start ignoring the trap. The people saying to kill and leave them outside as a deterrent arent actually joking. Mice avoid areas where they smell other dead mice as a survival tactic.Unless you are a vegan faggot, just kill it. The cow you ate died a much worse death
>>2985154This man was raised by his single mother
>>2983058I was hard up for a house on short notice, rented a house owned by a 90s new age hippie who went into a nursing home. Someone I knews mom, part of the deal was that I had to clean it out. She refused to kill mice and so she just started feeding them in the house in a specific room.Mice just ran the floors. I would kill them with a red ryder BB gun, I shot probably 20 of them, and killed probably 100 with bucket traps. Not fun, would not recommend. Hearing mice crawling in your walls makes your skin crawl.
>>2997503I had to buy airpods for this exact reason when I first started dealing with a new house. Now I can't sleep without them, oh well. I won that war.
>>2982780I was having a really bad problem with rats, I got this can of repellent that had a built in electric sprayer and went around the perimeter of the building and spraying any nook and cranny they may have been using. And it seems to have done the trick
>>2997499I think bucket traps (with water and possibly that floating rock stuff) avoid this problem a bit, but I'm no expert.
>>2997499i try replacing the traps every time i get a kill on them, wash the dead smell off and you can use it again
>>2982780Buy steel mesh, steel wool, spray foam, and a UV flashlight.Turn off all the lights. Use the flashlight to find where they are coming from. Clean out the opening, fasten the mesh over it, pack the wool over it, spray foam over it and cut/sand it down flush to whatever surface it is and paint.
>>2982780they're actually really easy to stop from getting, when you see one just chase it, it'll escape you the same way it got in, then just seal up the hole I've completely fixed my mouse problem like this, I killed like 100 of them before finally sealing everything up, once time I killed 2 with one spring loaded trap >>2983058real, total mouse death one time I set a trap and it only got its leg, it was bleeding and shitting and pissing everywhere so I stuck it into a 7/11 big gulp cup and then filled the cup with argon and it twitched and jerked around a bunch then just stopped being alive These plastic paddle mouse traps are the most sensitive ones I've found, they don't even need to be baited just set them along your walls and they will trip them
>>2997646I've purchased electrocution traps designed for rats. Between them providing a large-ish dark space with bait, and being easy to clean out with disinfectant, not only was I getting much better kill rates with the mice, but those traps ended up being the first thing the mice seemed to explore.
Just plant some peppermint plants or use peppermint oil spray
>>2982787domestic cats that go outside and especially semi ferals roaming around are notorious for killing any smaller animal just for the sake of it. seen enough dead rodents and birds around the house to confidently tell you that you're full of shitmoles get the bullet too lel>>2982780poison left and right is always my first suggestion, easy to find some that's aimed at rodents and less effort to maintain than a fluffy bastard, but if you want a pet and get rid of rodents at the same time, cat
>>2982787My cat is a Sphinx. She has no fur, no teeth, I've seen her kill and eat 6 mice.
>>2997499Bullshit. I've caught at least a half dozen this spring using the exact same wood victory trap in the exact same place with the same bait.
>>2989565My cat brings me back a dead animal every day. Haven't had a mouse in the house in 15 years.
>>2982780Get an outdoor cat
>>2997952Ive heard opinions go both ways. My experience has been, as soon as a snap trap catches a mouse they avoid it like the plague just to fall into a bucket trap.
>>2998018They don't avoid shit. Mice eat meat, including other dead mice. They don't care about smell of death.
