WTF is wrong with it?Fell out of Pending at least 3x since 2021.Bought less than two years ago, now up for sale again. Pics indicate owner has bunch of little kids living in it, so WTF pull up stakes?Maybe he got a job somewhere and has to move???Weird design, but seems like it could be nifty to have nice big fully covered space just outside nice two car garage. Could greatly expand into semi-inside space by hanging some plastic greenhouse shit and a couple more garage doors for pass through.Gee, I wonder if he has Inspections and shit from the Loan he got less than two years ago???Schools are rated shit (for PA) but "student demographics" not that bad.https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/834-Kistler-Rd-Mount-Union-PA-17066/115859253_zpid/
>>2991909>abominations threadit doesnt look like a 3/4 ton pickup could make it into the backyard plus fuck going up and down stairs constantly maybe it floods often?
>>2991912>https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/834-Kistler-Rd-Mount-Union-PA-17066/115859253_zpid/ Full height straight shot.
>>2991912a truck could just go around and drive on the lawn.definitely a "custom" design, which IMO probably means better quality, and 1975 ain't too bad an era. Wood was still good, more or less modern, but not yet real crappy. Built by White Americans.Would that span have to be steel??? 24' 2x14?30' 4x16 semi-special order in 1975?
Google streetview seems oddly shy of the area.
>>2991918looks like that carport thing is bowing
That's a hell of a distance to free span, I wonder what framing members were used to create that platform...
>>2991912>maybe it floods often?This is what came to mind when I saw it. It is like a Queenslander or a house that has been elevated after it was built. This house isn't actually in Mount Union. It is in an unincorporated area called 'Wayne' and there is a borough between it and Mount Union: Kistler. Both Mount Union and Kistler have flooded a few times in the last hundred years. That said, this place isn't right on the river like they are and FEMA (however much they can be trusted) says flood risk is low.All that said, this whole area is dying. There's about 40k people in the whole county, but most of the boroughs have been bleeding population for decades, and the nearest 'city' is Huntingdon with only 7k people. Mount Union is half the size it was at its peak and it has been doing nothing but going down since the 1930s. They had a major flood in 1936 so, yeah, I'd be concerned. I mean, do you mind living someplace with shit services? The nearest emergency room is 25 minutes away. The schools aren't very good. It also has more dollar stores than grocery stores, which is a bad sign. The roads are also rather poor.I mean, if you come from the sticks you are probably used to stuff like this but if you lived in a decent sized town or city this place would probably suck.
>>2991909>WTF is wrong with it?First thing is that it's in the middle-of-fucking-nowhere Pennsylvania. You'd have to either be retired or work-from-home to make a go of this place.Very good chance it needs a roof.As pointed, out that add-on over the driveway is sagging and it's apparent in every pic. God knows what that's doing to the attachments to the main house particularly on the roof. Inspections likely turned up significant work needed and that's why it's repeatedly fallen out of pending. Considering that most things look better in pics than IRL, that amount of sagging has got to be disturbing in person
>>2991979Oh, and that industrial-looking eyesore immediately to the SE plays a role was well. Aerial in Maps shows the place looking mostly dormant but the aerial in the listing pics indicates much more activity with equipment and trailers backed right up to the property line. Possibly noisy at all hours and dusty in the summer.
OP here....thx, everyone!Yeah, too many red flags and while I am retired and also wanting lots of garage space, and I am an old carpenter so in theory maybe I could deal with structure funnies....just not that appealing since its not around any particular natural beauty and probably just dumb meth and fent heads.
>>2991909wtf
>>2991909Why is it so expensive?
>>2992024why does an old retired guy want a big ridiculous house like that?get a little 2 bed on a big property with a shop like a normal person
>>2992070my shop stuff might need some office space and I might do a WFH internet startup.
>>2992032the current retard owner bought it for $245k + 3% buying fee + probably $5k in fixed closing costs, which means a cost basis around $260k. a selling price of $275k less 3% selling fee is slightly above breakeven.
>>2992086the fuck is buying fee
I dont think that was raised by fema.I dont want to damn the roof without seeing morelooks to me like both ends of the house were additions. the outbuildings have galvie steel panelling all over them. Someone at some point clearly could build, and liked thatthe saaame as the underside of the carport thing. I think the columns and spacing on that looks like it prolly is shakey as hell even if it is steel. the block columns make me very afraid, its obviously not conventional.lally posts and a beam immediately, no more driveway, and get some fuckin 45 bracing on those postslook at the stairs from the deck. No triangles anywhere. I bet a person climbing those can damn near shake the housethats a long lever. steel is springy. wood loaded like that... might be too. who knows what it is, yikes x 1000
>>2992100buying and selling realtors both get a fee. both pieces aren't always paid for by the seller.
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>>2992147I don't see it, and yes I'm interested to meet the engineer that said ok to landing their den addition and deck on 3 vertical and 1 slanted columns.
I cannot understand why they are so addicted to running their lap diagonally. If their triangle windows at a different slope than the ceiling wasn't enough, now there are tons of weird lines from orange lap all over the master. Oh, and you can see it from the street because the siding matches. Have a Coors to wash away the rest of the decor.
>>2991909>Bought less than two years ago, now up for sale again>>2992203>beer dog treats and a single chair in front of the tvhomeboy getting divorce rapedat least she didnt take the dog
>>2992203I would bet money that your bottom left photo is an original room straight from 1975. I grew up in a room with the same aesthetic. The only difference was the mirrors on the closet doors in my room had gold marbling and the carpet was harvest gold.https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/834-Kistler-Rd_Mount-Union_PA_17066_M33620-15891 has more photos.The middle of the house seems original to me. Classic split level 70's design. I agree with the previous poster's statement that the house was bookended with additions. Probably sometime in the 1990s. They likely did the kitchen at the same time. That is why you have the same ugly vinyl flooring in there as one of the new bedrooms. The triangular windows were likely off the shelf, which is why they don't match the roof pitch. The kitchen cabinets are the same deal. Which is why there is a gap between them and the ceilings. Which, based on the doorframes, are only about 7 feet for some reason.I don't know what is up with the bathroom. It looks a littler newer than the 90's but also more half-assed. The vanity looks 90's but the ceilings are original 70's and the tile looks a bit newer. Maybe 2000s? Maybe they did the work in phases?Then there is that weird pantry/shop (outlet strips, which look vintage 70s) room with the laminate imitation butcherblock counters and the drop in ceilings. Why are the ceilings angled? Who pained the fake wood paneling white?Have you all seen that outbuilding that is made with two cargo containers from 2 large box trucks? I figured people on here would be all over shit that like redneck women at a boxed wine sale at Bevmo.
>>2991909probably in an area being raped by AI data centers
>>299221190s is the dream pop of home design. I'm fine with the 70s room. I'd rather the panels not turn green and only accent walls vs all 4. But that room does not give me anxiety because it knows what it is. The rest of the house gives me concern. The kitchen is very basic to have the two nonEuclidean rooms on both ends. None of the rooms are isolated, but there are posts, and railing, and refrigerators in every walkway. It would have been ok to not have the kitchen bleed into what everyone else is doing. Split levels are always stupid. Have your grandparents run into a railing and have to climb another stair set just to come in. They have a great yard and there's a barn. That won't compensate if the addition falls onto the driveway.
>>2992218>there's a barn.You are not talking about the box truck barn are you? I don't know how that thing has stood up to snow loads.
>>2992211Oh shit, I just realized what the weird pantry/shop room is. They converted the porch on the back of the house. That is why they used drop in ceilings and they are at a weird angle. I mean, the whole point of drop in ceilings is to hide shit like that but clearly whoever did the work didn't get that memo.
>>2992220i didnt look this close at the "barn"thats pennsyltucky as hellll
>>2991977You get out into the middle of PA and the problem is that the roads go ALL AROUND the state lands. Looks like it's 45 miles from Harrisburg, as the crow flies but that could be a hell of a lot further, on 2-lane backroads.That house looks like a cobbled-together mess. Probably started with a basic 1-level, single-family home blueprint, then extended it a few feet, THEN added on those whacky-ass extensions. It's maybe kinda cool, but contractors are NOT architects and I've seen them do some stupid shit, when they start modding plans. I'd do a thorough inspection of the framing, from the basement to the attic.
>>2992303>contractors are NOT architectsarchitects aint engrs but sure as fuck think they are
>>299190999% of the time when a buyer pulls out it's because of structural concerns or mold that were found during inspection and deemed too expensive to remain interested
>>2991981one of my all time fave houses was a rental that was "last house standing" in an otherwise industrial area. Cheap and easy commute in an otherwise grossly overpriced upscale SF Gay Area town, and after 6pm it was almost rural feeling. Only traffic after about 7pm would be various Security Patrols. But dust wasn't an issue and it WAS short commute to highest wages in USA.
>>2992218stairs going down straight to front door is bad Feng Shui. Supposed to "cause wealth to run out" like water.Plus, as a practical matter, seems like safety hazard. If you stumble (more likely because stuff going on with front door) you are likely falling onto open door edge and/or windows.
>>2991909The wife wants to live in a normal house.
>>2993813so every split level home is bad feng shui
>>2993813How many times do you actually go in the front door of your house when there is a side door in the garage/parking area?
>>2993829objectively>>2993840Normally the garage is in the lower level of a split. There are better stair layouts than having traffic curl around the railing directly behind the front door. Keep in mind people put shoe racks, coats, and pet stuff on these landings.
>>2993829my split level doesn't have stairs going directly toward the front door. most of the split levels in my neighborhood don't have that either.
At least they have some self awareness.
>new plumbing ran throughout with maniblock, and a completely remodeled bathroomI wonder if it's a plumbing nightmare with hidden water damage?
>>2991944theres no way thats supported correctly unless theres like 16 inch steel there. thats a fucking 30-35 foot span. my addition has like a 10x10 steel beam for a 16 foot span and thats prolly just a bit over built.
>>2991909Been seeing this a lot even in the town I live in and new by towns. One of the 3 things always happen.1. House sits in pending hell for a year or so.2. House sells 3+ times in a short amount of time. Mostly with in a 5 year range.3. House gets put up for sale, removed, put back up, get taken back down and repeats.
>>2993840im pretty sure my front door is just for code compliancethere isnt even a path to it
>>2994969My front door is blocked from both sides. Got a Hoosier cabinet blocking it from the inside and a bunch of decorative plants in the front. I get zero sales people knocking on my actual primary door as it is on the side of the house inside the carport. You can't see if from the street.
>>2991944Probably because realtors are retards and use fisheye lenses for everything to make it look larger.
