why do they build million dollar homes with the layout of a bachelor apartment?
7 figures hasn't been a lot of money since the 80s. The US median house is half of that. Entry level is 200k. There's a lot of areas that 1mil will barely get you 2 bed 1 bath.
>>2992873Open concept has been the standard for new construction for 50 years. Only in the last 10-15 years has the backlash against it grown to the point that some new homes aren't using it. Many in the industry haven't really caught up to that fact though.Please note, there is a significant difference between what custom homebuilders do and what tract developers do. The former is building to suit. The are often going off of a plan that the customer wants and an architect may have even been involved. Tract housing is built to sell. There are generally, at best, a few pre-developed plans that are all designed to be as cheap and easy to construct as possible while also checking as many 'fad' boxes as possible. What becomes the 'new owner' will likely have had zero input on any aspect of the construction. They are also often terrible houses, regardless of sticker price.
>>2992873i build custom homes and i like the open floorplan>>2992901there's a reason it has been the custom for that long. popular taste always trickles down from what the wealthy have. the old highly compartmentalized, dedicated kitchen, dedicated dining, dedicated living, dedicated family room designs were a derivative of the old style of home where rich people had servants/help. the help was in the kitchen and they briefly appeared in the dining room to serve and then left. this then bled over into the women were in the kitchen and the men were separate dynamic of the post ww2 rise of the middle class era. now rich people don't cook much, in my experience it is usually the man that cooks if anyone does, not even kidding, so the kitchen being in the space where the people spend their time talking or watching tv or playing with the kids is convenient because you can grab your drink out of the fridge or make your coffee or whatever and still be included in the socialization. super quiet dishwashers means you don't have to listen to dishes being cleaned up anymore. another thing that has arisen is the butlers pantry. most of my customers have a room off the kitchen that serves as a staging area for caterers. the kitchen island becomes a buffet on one side and a seating area on the other without guests being removed from the get together.
>>2992873What the other guys said, it's trying to copy rich peoples houses. I fucking hate it, so much wasted space and it's cold and drafty. Walls are the meat of a room, it's where you put all your stuff against. When you got no walls the only thing that becomes appropriate to fill the space with is tables and sofas, how many fucking tables and sofas do you need?
>>2992906of course builders like the cheapest simplest shittiest layout possible lmao
>>2992923actually in the custom home building world we are Cost Plus. so the more they spend the more I make. i also have a finish carpentry company and i'm pretty good. but you are a spiteful mutant so why don't you say something like>painting everything white makes it soullesswhile ignoring victorian and colonial styles.
>>2992900Price to build, not rhe overinflated hustle bustle price>>2992935No one is being mean or "spiteful", you soft bitchNow post floorplan
>>2992939i don't feel like sharing my intellectual property for free, especially not to rude people with nothing to contribute :)
>>2992935>>2992940you paint it white because thats the color the cheapest prefinished molding comes in lmao stop finessing
>>2992873the answer to any "why" question in the american building community is - because it's cheaper
>>2992935>archway immitation made of popcicle sticks and plasterwow, such a craftsmanship, lmao
>>2992956No plaster. Sorry you can't build stuff yourself. Maybe if you keep saying negative stuff you will finally feel better about yourself though!
>>2992957>enter thread about hating on thing>people are hating on thing
>>2992968>people are hating on thingmostly just youopen layout makes sense for modern young families where there are no servants or stay at home mothers so you want to be able to do cooking and cleaning chores while also maximizing your time with the childrenopen concept serves no purpose if you are a weirdo internet loneropen concept serves no purpose for me
>>2992939I can't always decide if building is better or worse.
>>2992979Building you know you are going to spend a lot of money, but once you are done you have a house with a warranty and a floorplan and finishes you like. Buying a house means you are getting something someone else built, and if you want to change anything, who knows what problems are lurking behind the drywall.
>>2992981That's what I mean. Even ignoring customizing, the new build has healthy mechanical. Don't let them use pex and you're good. The best old homes will still need something replaced at a minimum. Water heater, furnace, drain management, roof, foundation issues, paint and seal whole exterior. Why ai hasn't taught us to build a 3br she shed for less than 100k idk.
>>2992983The problem is labor costs. If you do the digging and rebar and form boards and compaction, you can have a 1200sqft slab for $12k. You can frame walls out of 2x8s for another $2k in lumber. For another $10k you can get doors and windows. Rafters, an lvl ridge beam and 3 king posts and sheathing for the roof is another 7k. Then you need sheathing for the house, waterproofing, roofing, electric, plumbing, interior finishes, etc. Just the slab and materials for the shell on this theoretical 1200sqft house is about 40-50k. Now you need insulation, flooring, wall covering, lights, plumbing fixtures, tile work, cabinets, furniture, all of which will bring you to around 100k. The question is, do you have the time and ability to do all the labor yourself. Also, don't forget septic, well, and the cost to get power to the house or do solar.
i think architects did not learn from big brother instead listened to their reality tv addicted client's trophy wife, accidentally building homes designed for confrontation.
>>2992957>plastic decorationsoh wow, sorry I've overestimate you, king of the hot glue gun
>>2992957whappen here?
>>2993013hasn't been painted yet
>>2993001i charged $12k for that arch :)
>>2992935saw this on reddit
>>2993019uh huh
>>2993047>>2993046<|:^)
>>2993052and we're up to invoice 13 as of last week. nobody knows how to do this shit anymore lol.
>>2993052What flavor of Linux is that?
>>2993059cachyos because it just works. i ragequit windows for the third time in my life 6 months ago and i have a developer buddy who said to just use it and i did and i had my printer working in less than a minute and i was sold.
>>2993019and you got charged equally for some shoddy work elsewhere, big win, bravo
>>2992873this phenomena is called "prole drift."
>>2993074I bought an excavator so I guess someone did charge e for stuff!
>>2993086its kind of the opposite, no?i grew up in a working/lower middle class 60s mcm open concept home and it had a delightful layout still with a closed off kitchen that kind of looped around and flowed into a big dining/living/ entertaining areathe kitchen in the living room model used to be exclusively for efficiency in apartments that are too small for anything elsewhat kind of luxury is a fireplace in the kitchen anyway? its not hot enough in there already?
>>2993060Seems it requires more hands on maintenance than other versions but I will take a look.I've noodled with Linux a few times over the years but was mostly unimpressed with the interfaces. The old school Windows interface is actually quite good, all things considered, and I have been using it since Windows 3.1 was current. I don't want to relearn everything so I figured I'd have a look again (due to a Windows Update breaking my 13 year old multi-upgraded copy of 11, which then dropped activation on reset). I booted up a VM with Mint and was unimpressed. Same with Ubuntu and Fedora. I basically want Windows 7, which I can mostly kludge Windows 11 into looking like without extra apps. 11 is just so aggressively awful though. It seems every time they add a 'feature' I have to dig deeper and deeper to turn it off. First they make the settings hard to find. Then it isn't a 'setting' and has to be changed in local group policy. Then it is buried in the registry. Then it is not even in the registry and you have to create your own keys to do what you want. Enshittification manifest. If I could just get Windows 7's desktop and File Explorer on a Linux OS that can run games I would be happy.
>>2993087good, now you can tear down the plastic abomination you "built"
>>2993093Sorry you are having a bad day.
>>2993091So far cachyos has been much more "it just works" than other Linux distros I have used in the past. Also, onlyoffice beats the pants off libreoffice.
>>2993017you fill the gaps with paint?
>>2993114Caulking after the first coat of paint. That's wood crown so you can't get it to sit tight against wavy walls. You can do it a little tighter than that, but that's for stain grade and it takes longer and you charge more for it.
