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Tell me why this wouldn't work.

4x4 wooden posts with 2x4 (or similar) feet. Then I stake down each foot by just hammering some rebar down on it. Is this retarded? I want to be able to move the sails relatively easily compared to sinking posts into the ground with concrete.
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>>2997865
>shade sail
You'd struggle with the tension the sails are usually under. Maybe with something like camo netting (so it doesn't catch wind) and a saggy setup it could stand, but it won't look nice or block much.
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>>2997865
a 4x4 isn't strong enough to hold tension if it was sunk into a concrete pier, let alone using surface-level feet.
just get an umbrella stand if you want something mobile.
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>>2997865
4x4 posts is the first stupid part, you don't need more than a strong pole
the second is not using guy lines instead. physics is your friend.
if I were going to do it like pic, like say my uncle owned a 4x4 post rental and they were free, I'd dunk them in a barrel each and fill it with cement. easy to move around with leverage, again physics is your friend.
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>>2997865
Could use small ground screws for a not-entirely-permanent install, that'd be the not so shitty variant.
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>>2997865
whatever you do dont get a deck umbrella or anything. maybe you thought about window tinting your body?
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>>2997865
You need something way stronger than a 4x4
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Because the top of the post is applying 20 times the force to the base, because it's like a lever, this wouldn't even close to work. You wouldn't even secure the post let alone hang anything between them.

One way to do is is guywires, from the posts to the ground. Another is to angle the posts outwards, another is a slack line between the posts and the sail so the sail can't pull a single post by itself. Usually you use all three.

Another way is to sink a cement footing with a hole in it, and put the posts into the hole like bollards.
If it's in your yard I would definitely put one solid post in the corner
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These would be more solid than rebar and also prevent contact between wood and ground (a long term problem though).
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>>2999530
i recently attempted a sunshade with 4x4s and these completely submerged in concrete filled holes
it did not work. a, the metal rusted out eventually. but before that they still bent from the tension
i would recommend 4x6 sunk 4 feet into the ground (with cement)
maybe you could use hard steel rods, but they would need to be sunk deep with cement
i abandoned the project instead of doing what I suggest
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>>2997865
Wouldn't it make more sense to make it rectangular in plan and add crossbars at the top?



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