Get ready for the influx of poorfags buying ender 3s from thrift stores I bet you feel old now
>>3000133Oh cool, maybe I'll get one
>>3000133Enders were at thrift stores and garage sales years ago, there isnt going to be some new influx
>>3000133Fifty bucks is too much for that. Maybe $20 to part it out.
>>3000133Why the hate?That thing can make small good pla prints and it will last years and years with little easy maintenance. 50 dollars is a good price.
>>3000297No way, I was getting the pro version (better psu, silent drivers , few other minor upgrades) for $100 plus a free roll of inland PLA over 7 years ago
>>3000297Depends on who's buying the printer; I'd never recommend used anything for a first printer, let alone an Ender 3. $50 for a backup printer, or a platform for a laser engraver? that i could see.
>>3000133I'm more concerned about the missing fire extinguisher in the background
>>3000455It's fine, just never use the heated bed.
>>3000455There is no way to know it is missing. The sign is on all four sides, but the extinguisher could be out of view of the photo.
>>3000133They probably hot donated for being absolutely shit. I wouldn't take one of those time vampires for free.
>>3000133mine works well after several upgrades and a lot of tuning but I've had it for years and the new stuff is 1000 times easier to get good prints out of.
>>30014743DTouchPEI sheetDouble sprocket extruder upgradeYou don't need more to make the original ender 3 usableI slice with cura's default preset, press start print and it just werks everytime
>>3000133I would buy desu, mine works well, I don't know where the hate comes from.
>>3000528I stole it.
>>3000133> 3d printing is now affordablestill not interested
>>3000289Sold my old broken one (I told the buyer it was broken) for $60 about two-three months back. Retards are willing to pay a lot for junk.
>>3000133It's a great platform, anon. Kind of a crappy printer, but a great platform.
>>3000133me omw to buy a 3d printer at a thrift store: gee i just don't already have enough plastic tat and useless garbage in my house, maybe with this i can add some more and turn into a woman at the same time from all the estrogen fumes and then post on reddit about it.its hot plastic melted together poorly. nothing useful was ever made on a 3d printer and if it was it wouldn't last a week. grow up.
>>30059783d printing was originally called rapid prototyping for a reason. Anyway, obviously not consoomer tier plastishit, but you couldn't do picrel any other way.
>>3000297My theory is that OP is a combination of two kinds of faggots: The fags that go to a cheap shop and try out lowball everything because seeing a digit go down gives them an orgasm & The fags that are extremely poor/cheap and can't afford anything they want so they overcompensate by saying they hate it out loud.
>>3006021>doesnt recognize the tripfag oplurk moar>bragging about wasting extra money on mantoysthis is a cheapfuck board dipshit
>>3000133Theres a bunch of cool conversion projects that start off of an ender3 like thr wire EDM rack robo madeSo being able to pick one up for dirt cheap seems like a great deal even if its just for parts
>>3000297>little easy maintenancefuck you and the countless hours i have spent bed tramming
>>3000455especially since that's a base ender so probably doesn't have the overheat protection they added later.
>>3003052>3d touchdont you need to muck with the firmware for that? also don't hook up the wrong motors to an ender 3, it kills the stepper drivers, and they are impossible / difficult to replace with SHIT TOOLS
>>3006021Mostly go for old magic the gathering cards and warhammer models. Even if the warhammer models aren’t ones I need old heads like new in box stuff and will trade me their otherwise not for sale metal figures
>>3000133I got an ender 3 pretty cheap a few years back off a buddy of mine. His sister got it as a gift, he assembled it incorrectly, then nobody ever used it. The mainbaord had a fried driver out of the box so I replaced it with an upgraded version. Now I've got it running klipper and I'm debating making some more hardware upgrades. My goal is to at least triple the print speed while also improving print quality compared to out of the box performance. Anyone have any recommendations for quieter fans that can also support a more powerful hotend? It doesn't need to be a direct bolt on replacement, I don't mind printing an adapter.
yo i just got one of these. slop bot is pretty good at fixing the problems with it
>>3006733Problem is the linear movement system on these, after about a year they end up wearing out at the v-wheels. Then after a couple wheel swaps you start loosing tolerance in those weak aluminum extrusions , you can only cam so much play out Which is why nicer printers have linear rails and ball screws kinda like cnc machines
>>3005978>>3006012For me it's saved me so much money on /tg/ related hobbies and for tiny widgets it made the two, three hundred bucks I spent for my printer like 8 years ago.I mostly use it to print containers(deck boxes, board game shelving/compartments for board game boxes, miniature holders) and simple shit like the little shelf tabs/stick-on-hooks that would otherwise be a couple bucks at a store to replace
>>3006812Like I've said, it was developed for prototyping; using it for large scale production of simple shit thst can be easily done by traditional methods, like chinks on Ali are now doing,, is retarded and a waste of time and money, also because the quality just isn't there.
>>3000133what is the point of getting something like bambulab?is it just the faster print?I have an Ender 3S1 and have used Prusa and Bambulab and there's literally zero difference in quality of print, the Ender prints just as fast as the Prusa, the Bambu can go about 30% faster which is super nice, but it's 6x the price.
>>3006809Couldn't I replace the v wheel systems with some kind of ball bearing tracks? I might need some custom hardware to mount everything, would that be feasible compared to just buying a better printer?
>>3007213You could, But replacing the frame, replacing the lead screw and belt drives on the Y and X Getting a better bed, better extruder setup and better print head you kind end up with Theseus ender 3 The beep boop noisy drivers being replaced by a new board or a raspberry pi or something Getting really close to voron or Bambu labs territory of dollars 3D printers (FDM) are kinda weird every 2 years is a new generation Ender 3 printers were effectively a second generation budget product We’re in like gen 6 right now LiDAR leveling, print head tool changers and even stuff like idex You’re not really saving anything money wise by starting with an ender 3 Maybe the extrusions? But they’re kinda short and shitty quality I’d just go to aliexpress and order some there
>>3007111>what is the point of getting something like bambulab?An Ender 3 is a platform on which to build a printer. It's a constant project to get it running and keep it running at top quality. They are something to buy if you want to play around with a 3d printer.Bambulabs automates all that, in that it'll do what you want, without tinkering. They cost $$$$$ but you are saving time. They are what you buy if you want to 3d print things.
>>3007281This. Ender 3 is a project car. Bambulabs is something you drive to work.
>>3007281>>3007282I've had my Ender3 S1 for 5 years and have literally only dialed in the bed once (when I got it, as per instructions) and it took about 5 minutes. There's nothing to 'maintain' on it. It just runs perfect every time.
>>3007281what is 'automated' on the Bambulab that isn't on the Ender?The only thing that has improved the Ender that the Bambu has over it is an enclosure I stuck around it to keep temp up (20 dollar small photo booth).
>>3007299LiDAR leveling, filament swaps, runout sensor, if loaded in the ams uses same color and type filament continuous print, color swaps, nozzle purges , PLA supports on petg prints vice versa, active heated chamber , camera, time lapse, scheduled prints, WiFi printing, slicing via cellphone and more Also lights out full automation mode
>>3007309multicolor/filament swap is a meme only used by people that make PLA dragons to sell at fleemarkets why bother with lidar leveling if just normal adjustment screws work fine?you can schedule shit with ender, camera is a meme, every printer in the past 10 years can do wifi, who the fuck is going to be slicing on their phone?
>>3007311That’s not true , I did a multi material print (TPU, petg ) for a drone part earlier today An ender can’t do any of it,
>>3007313You can add an MMU to an Ender. TPU might be a problem with a stock setup but that can be fixed easy enough. But if you want something turnkey out of the box, yes, Bambu is the easier, more reliable path.
>>3007309I have never seen this many buzzwords outside of those shitty jewtube reviews, congratulations.
>>3006012 i should call her
>>3007830Bambulab also features dick into vagina technology, where it doesn’t look like something Al queda cooked up to bury on the side of the road whe a bitch comes over Unlike the ender 3 with mods and bad wire management
>>3006234shoulda got a BLtouch ya eternally noob. that z-index mindfucked ya didn't it?
>>3008056>BLtouchOptical is betterI don't have the time or patience to relevel my bed every print because the chinese put in the worst steel in for bed springs.
>can't even print in multi colorThey'll more likely be melted into aluminum ingots
get with the times unc. we're buying bambu labs A1's from thrift stores now.
>>3008106Yeah because they’re a fire risk
>>3008114more like a fire sale
>>3007830do you... do you not know what a buzzword is anon?
>>3000133Have an old friend that bought a bunch of old 3D printers cheap from people in town. Has like 6 of them. Sets a room up with a computer for every 3d printer in there at his shop. And does NOTHING with them. He can design anything. Last time he printed anything was over 5 years ago of a skeleton he downloaded. He just talks about the room like he its something special.
>>3008417That’s stupid because you only need one computer for hundreds of 3D printers I like how people call them maker spacesDon’t make shit
>>3000133when you replace almost every part of the ender its not that bad :^)>PEI sheet>yellow springs>CR Touch>Sprite Pro extruder>enclosure>RPI with Mainsail>webcamI've ordered it a USB led strip with a dimmable controller. was only £6 and will finish it off finally.When there's a Bambu-quality multi-colour printer without botnet built in I'll upgrade.
>>3008896I used to buy them in bulk at microcenter for $100 + free roll of inland PLA a pop and tan an ender 3 pro print farm The mean well power supply alone was worth $20 same with the PLA roll…. I have a few duds, some of the ones with silent drivers the frames came skewed (holes not aligned) so I had brand new Enders ripped apart for parts new in box to keep my farm going After while I got tired of pulling a printer offline hot swapping it for another ender off my service desk and went all prusa mk3s+ but I wouldn’t have been able to do that for “free” without the Enders I think they’re okay but they have a very limited service life before they’re not worth your time. Every minute I was rebuilding an ender 3 was a minute I wasn’t inside solid works or fusion making me money
>>3008896Some of the more stupid shit I’ve done with ender 3 parts was 1: used meanwell psu for a hota d6 to charge drone batteries 2: sold one to a coworker who was working on a dmg Mori machine with its 24v DC system was shot. Yanked it off my ender 3 and we just sheet metal screwed that shit in the cab I think it was a Mori sl25? Think it was the weird one with the Y axis and proprietary tool holders I was a cnc junk guy for awhile lol
>>3000133Why's Ender 3s going to show up at thrift stores suddenly?
>>3000133I envy the discount, I got mine brand new.
>>3008672>He can design anything.I meant cant design anything.He does this a lot, gets something, talks about it a lot like he is something special and does nothing with the shit. Has a a few laser cutters that sit there also in the back of his shop. Wont sell them, wont do anything with them. Along with a shit ton of computers, servers, and networking equipment that he does nothing with. He also has some other random shit like a soft serve ice cream machine like what Dairy Queen uses. He runs a computer repair shop and he doesn't know shit. Yea he can do basic shit such as OS reinstalls and upgrade RAM and Storage. For the longest time he didn't know that some GPUs have a power requirements. He tried to run a 300W PSU on a AMD Radeon RX 580 and could not figure out why the system as fucking up. A guy brought in a workstation that was having issues. My friend said "he did not understand why the guy was using a Nvidia Quadro Graphics Card for CAD". He also thinks that you can put modern Intel i series CPUs into older systems to replace the older i series CPUs (ie: putting a 10th gen i7 into a motherboard that had a 3rd gen CPU in it).>I like how people call them maker spaces>Don’t make shitWe have a "maker space" in the public library. I say it's a craft crap shop. A few 3D Printers, a small laser cutter, vinyl cutter, heat press, button maker, laminator, sewing machine, and a cricut cutter.I thought about starting a maker space in this town but there are too many thieves, crack heads, and retarded ass kids (the ones that will steal, come into businesses to start problems and/or make a scene, etc) and the group of people that think it should be free to use.
>>3008058so $10 springs fucked you good eh?I still use my ender 3 fully upgraded, then bought a flashforge AD5X and it was night and day(because fuck those bambu chinks stealing your gcode&STL files).>>3007309my ender 3 never made shitty cube like that because most 3d printer issues are user idiot issues(just like computers btw)
>>3000133I sold my ender 3 used for spare parts, honestly it's really not worth maintaining.To be fair I had the very first iteration, with the very first board, so any firmware upgrades were only possible by absolutely gutting the featureset to be able to barely squeeze it onto the onboard memory. The later iterations have much more onboard memory, so that might have been worth it more.Ultimately sold it for spare parts. Kind of regret it because I needed steppers for another project a few months later so I should just have kept it, but that's life. This way I ended up around even but don't have the trash lying around anymore, so still a net positive I suppose. >>3012049>my ender 3 never made shitty cube like that because most 3d printer issues are user idiot issuesWhile that's true, it's a bit like insisting on calculating by hand when calculators exist. Assuming you make no mistakes do both work? Sure. Is it smart to do it by hand? No.My Ender 3 could output pretty much identical prints to my bamboo machines now, that's true. But it involved hours and hours of tinkering, setup and maintenance, when on the bambu I keep a spool of PLA, entirely unprotected from moisture and in the sunlight, on it for months and when I want to print I just click "print" and it works. That would have been unthinkable with my ender, even with all the upgrades. It needed dry, non-brittle filament, a well leveled surface or probe, springs etc etc.
>>3008672>like how people call them maker spacesThat isn't a maker space if it's private, that sounds like a "workshop" which, like most workshops, exists 90% to larp.Makerspace isn't a protected term and there's a ton of terms that technically mean something different but are used so loosely they overlap:- hackerspace: Focus on tech, hardware and software. Usually involves modification of existing stuff or creation of new machinery.- Fablab: Essentially a communal/shared workspace where tools and machines are provided that people can use (often CNC). - Makerspace: A bit of a catch-all term that is meant to capture many things at once. Where a fablab implies less community and more of a utilitarian "this just makes sense" logic, makerspaces often emphasize a communal aspect, with events, meetups, and also people just chilling. They usually have some fablab ability, some hackerspace ability, some activist slant and a place to make connections.- Biolab: Much rarer, but basically a fablab for bio/chem experimentation. Lab equipment is expensive, so it makes sense. You basically only find these in college towns.>>3008999>We have a "maker space" in the public library. I say it's a craft crap shopThat sounds like a fablab then. Still better than nothing.>I thought about starting a maker space in this town but there are too many thieves, crack heads, and retarded ass kids (the ones that will steal, come into businesses to start problems and/or make a scene, etc) and the group of people that think it should be free to use.Maker spaces struggle with initial startup capital and location mostly. Whatever you do, do NOT make it free. A membership and fee are crucial to filter out the absolute entitled scum you get otherwise. If you have too few people to have it occupied/staffed whenever open, have a digital access system and have it so the one who unlocks it is liable, that way people self-filter who they let in.
>>3007311I pretty much exclusively print practical utility stuff and I still do a lot of multicolor printing, it's great for stuff like text markings on tool organizers etc.
>>3012095Having a publicly accessible cnc machine sounds like a nightmare Feeds and speeds, tool and work holding will be abused coolant and lubricant systems neglected Guarantee nobody will wash it down chips just everywhere
>>3007599>you can add an mmu to an ender lol no you can’t You can hook one up and fiddle with it but it won’t work reliably Which describes about 90% of all ender “mods” That aren’t just swapping stock parts for higher quality ones
>>3012255I mean CNC just means computer numerical control, so technically printers, laser cutters, plotters etc are all CNC.But I get what you mean. At my local makerspace they have essentially like "courses" or "classes" where someone from it teaches you the basics of using it. They're free but it's customary to sponsor the guy who does them a beer or something after.Even then, they don't have something really expensive that an idiot could break, something like a tormach mill or something would be cool, but precisely for the reasons you mentioned (maintenance and the chance of someone breaking stuff) they don't have any.As for the other stuff (lathe, laser cutter etc.) people are actually surprisingly good about cleaning after themselves, but I might just be lucky with where I live and the people there (many college people using it, which already filters for a specific type of person).I suppose you could have it baked into a membership fee or something where someone does maintenance and gets paid out for it, but making that fair without it quickly becoming annoyingly expensive isn't easy.
>>3012106Not the anon you spoke to, but do you have a printer with dual printheads?From the AMS options it seemed that any multi material print where the material doesn't only occupy one or two layers (especially if it's vertical, so each layer has some), seemed to waste a shitton of filament due to the whole purging process not being terribly efficient.
>>3012257I’d easily pay $50 a month to use a dmg Mori lathe with live toolingnoutfitted with kennametal inserts and endmills Just the power alone would be more than the membership fee and I’ll aggressively feed that mother fucker until the lights flicker Not my mill, not my tools, not my ways, not my coolant bill that I’m just misting away not my mist collector filters
>>3012257> yo what’s up YouTube > today we’re going to find out if a tormach can run this 3” indexable endmill at F150. Ipm and 2% step over in inconel using this… uhh looks like no name coolant
>>3012266I shuddered just reading that kek
>>3012259Nah, A1 with the AMS Lite. It does waste filament but it's not that bad if you're smart about it, if you're trying to print full-color funko pop type bullshit then yeah it'll burn filament like there's no tomorrow (and that seems to be what 95% of printer owners think AMSs are for so it's no surprise they complain a lot about filament waste) but if you're doing something like contrast text where it's all on the same level and only takes up a few layers it's trivial. Orienting your part correctly on the build plate and, if necessary, doing a multi-part print so that you can avoid vertical color switching is a big deal too, like this GPU support I printed recently has the RADEON text on a separate plate that dovetails into the support itself so that it can be printed flat and face-down for a good surface finish.
>>3012285>(and that seems to be what 95% of printer owners think AMSs are for so it's no surprise they complain a lot about filament waste)You don't have to justify yourself in front of me anon, kek. Most 3d printer owners never even learn to design stuff, they just download figurines, print them, basedpog and then throw it into the trash a week later.Yeah that basically is what I assumed overall. For me not worth getting an AMS Lite, I usually just print in colors like white, emboss the text so it sticks out, then simply go over with permanent marker. Your version undoubtedly looks nicer, but I would need it so rarely it hasn't been worth the investment for me so far. Maybe down the line.Thanks for the explanation.
>>3012287Yeah, it's a lot more expensive if you buy it as an addon instead of part of the package too. I print enough stuff where permanent marker or whatever might not hold up that it's worth having. Pic related, as an example, is to go on the one ancient flashdrive that works with our prehistoric Haas Minimill (old enough that it has a monochrome orange CRT) so it'll be handled a lot and be around coolant etc., and it was really efficient to print since the black is just a few layers and the slicer is smart enough to alternate things in an efficient way. (It'll do red on one layer, then black, then the next layer of black and back to red, instead of resetting every time.)
>>3012289>so it'll be handled a lotYeah that sounds like a great usecase for it. My embossed method is really convenient, but it's also the least resilient, because the small layer of paint is also the part sticking out, it it wears off if it's in a place with considerable wear. You can make it a little better by having the letters as an inlay (so a negative) rather than sticking out, but that makes marking them a pain in the ass. Neither option is as resilient, easy to read, or pretty as just multi material printing, so that's definitely a good usecase.Godspeed anon.
>>3012285People hate on the ams but you get a much more seamless product if you design tpu parts INSIDE asa parts or use the PLA on petg for supports trick Also with some of these filaments being $50/kilo these 1/4 full spools can get used and roll right into the print seamlessly It’s like a pocket knife people buy it for one thing but you just end up using it in ways you don’t even think about Also it is just a tool so skill does come into play If you can’t design shit in CAD a 3D printer is as useless as a haas vf2 sitting in your garage
