>>3004022
The only people I've ever known to have it done are the very wealthy that have them as a landscaper or the old and infirm that cannot manage to mow it themselves. Normal guys just cut it themselves.

>>3004022
I wouldn't be suprised if this was economically sensible.
You must look at the cost of opportunity and economy of scale.
You must not only pay for the mower, its upkeep and fluids. You must also either buy or rent the space you keep it in. Lastly and most importantly you must evaluate your own time. Your job pays more per hour than Jesus job (which id mowing lawns)? Go work in the meantime or enjoy your free time doing what you really want.
>inb4 I simply have the space
That's not an argument. In a perfect market economy you could sell or rent it or you should not have bought what you didn't need to begin with.
Economy of scale is self explanatory.

>>3004041
Why would anyone go to work when they can just mow a lawn?

>>3004041
please let this be bait.

>>3004022
Its a gross repetitive humiliation ritual that just makes the neighbors gawk at you while you get covered in various bugs, slimes, and pesticides reducing your quality of life.

>>3004022
I mow a pretty big lawn every 10 or so days with a push mower. A standard cut takes 2 hours plus 15 minutes of trimming. I mow my side lot once a month which takes an additional hour. That's less than 8 hours per month total. Fuel consumption is less than two gallons per month and I use old oil from my car in the mower. I've had the same mower for 6 years.
Two of my three neighbors hire landscapers, while the other has a riding mower which his kid operates.
I like push mowing. It's a good workout and I it sometimes feels like a form of meditation. In the winter I shovel a 200 foot driveway with a snow shovel and am usually finished before my neighbors' plow contractor gets around to them. Doing my own labor on my property gives me a sense of pride and care that others don't get by paying someone else.

>>3004069
because writing code or tinkering is more cerebral and thus enjoyable than going back and forth over the same patch of grass every week just to keep busybodies and code enforcement off my back.

>>3004069
Jesus earns way less for mowing a lawn and if everyone mowed lawns lawn mowing would pay even less. But you knew that.
>>3004081
Are both of you retarded?
It's like fucking kitchens. Restaurants make sense.

>>3004041
>Your jobs pays you more by the hour than Jesus charges to mow the lawn
>work more
>get more money
>go to the gym because your life is too sedentary
>get joint and tendon injuries
>win yuppie of the year award
Modern man is just too stupid

>>3004023
>The only people I've ever known to have it done are the very wealthy
I live in a not-great area, its astounding the number of people who are nearly broke but will once a month demand someone on Nextdoor demand a mower come THIS AFTERNOON to mow just the front yard, usually followed by
>all I got is $14

Its usually because the HOA or city is fining the owner of the house or have given a notice their yard looks like shit.

>>3004153
I forgot to add, I can see over some of my neighbor's fences, some just let the back yard do whatever it does until they're reported to the city for making an attractive nuissance to pests like rodents. I had to report 1 neighbor 3 times before the city was about to fine them; they had a pile of tree branches, stolen bikes, and a mattress piled up. Their excuse was debris haul off costs money and they couldn't afford it.

by the by, on next door there are plenty of gypsy scams where people complain about not having a job for months, no car to even get a job, starving kids, abusive relationship, etc and boomers venmo them cash. Its insane how it works so well.

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>>3004094
You sound bitter. Are you okay?
>>3004041
>Your job pays more per hour
What in the world does your job's pay rate have to do with home maintenance???

>>3004022
fat & lazy

>>3004353
>What in the world does your job's pay rate have to do with home maintenance???
There's this odd mindset that if you are spending any time EVER not earning at your absolute MAX that you're somehow wasting time. As if all of life amounts to trying to get a high score on your deathbed or something. I couldn't care, I'm salaried and comfortable and mowing is good exercise.

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>>3004069
>>3004081
>>3004144
>>3004353
>>3004387
Zero arguments.

>>3004387
Whoever dies with the most toys wins, loser.

>>3004433
The most toys or the most valuable toys? If I have a thousand marbles and some guy has one supercar, do I win because I have more?

>>3004556
sperg

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>>3004559
That is not an answer.

The pull string on my mower snapped a few years ago and I don't feel like taking a 4 hour drive to have someone replace it. Also buying a new $800 push mower is not within my budget.

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>>3004022
Mowing the lawn is easy. Clearing the lawn from chairs and tools then pulling weeds beforehand is the not so fun part.
>hard mode
You forgot to charge the crappy string trimmer to do the edges.

>>3004585
So fix the pull string yourself...

>>3004115
>cucked this hard by fucking grass

>>3004611
The civilized man seeks to control his environment.

>>3004121
The Mexican next door makes $50-100 (cash not taxed) in a little under an hour with a standing riding mower and trimmer for the edges.
If you really did the math on what all the equipment and upkeep cost (truck and trailer, 2 mowers, probably has a family member or two employed, custom shirts, etc) I wonder what the real earnings look like.
They live in a POS house that faces the highway in the ghetto like me but it's insanely cheap to buy here, some livable houses under 100k. And they DIY everything even have a plywood shed in the backyard with a tin roof that was definitely not permitted with the city properly.

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>>3004634
>shed
>permitted

>>3004022
After taxes I make about $75/hr. It's literally not worth my time to fuck around with a lawnmower when I could sleep in on Saturday mornings while some sweaty Mexicans do all the work for me.
Just make more money and you'll see.

>>3004634
>shed
Just in case I wasn't clear or should've specifically named it:
The shed is on land. In an ideal market economy land ownership has value. You either paid for it or you are paying for it or you don't need it and are missing out on payments.

We did it for abit at the second house, like $50. Was great when it was once a month to make sure it didn't get overgrown, but the guy said weekly or he didn't want to do it anymore. We now do it. no big deal.

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>300475won
fucking ancaps are somehow more insufferable than tankie swine

>>3004751
And in the closest on earth to your ideal market economy, the united states (routinely the most liquid and highest volume capital market in the world), we have these things called zoning laws preventing you from just building more houses on your lawn and renting them out because it would create literal fucking slums.
You are advocating some kind of dystopian favela setup that would suck dick to live in where every suburban house is now a compound of the main landowner house surrounded by a bunch of paupers that would eventually realize they could just group up and invade the main house with weapons in hand.
You just want to bring back slave plantations bro be honest with me.
>>3004662
I should've mentioned the thing is like 15x30ft it's huge lmao and somehow their yard is still covered in miscellaneous equipment like truck toolboxes and seed spreaders. Sick trampoline though

>>3004778
>closest to ideal
I doubt it
>zoning laws
Market mechanisms aren't monocausal. If you bought a property you paid for everything about it and if it is only zoning laws holding you back but not your otherwise needing the area you bought a plot which is too large by at least the footprint of said shed.
>advocating
I am advocating for nothing you deranged imbecile. Neither am I explaining that things work like this, anyone is a taylorian homo economicus or always religiously avoids inefficiency. You're literally a brain amputee if you believe or 'read' at any point that I advocated you either sell your plot and move to a smaller one if you find, ou're not using one corner of the garden or rent out little shanty shacks in your garden to retards like (You).
>slave plantations
deranged lunatic

>>3004022
I only mow a section and let the rest go wild for bees

>>3004742
>I make about $75/hr
Is your ass worth that much?

It kind of sucks to diy but I know I save a good amount of money every year. My only fear is whatever push mower from lowes I got is going to randomly die and set me back another $500 + yearly gas

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>>3004808
>My only fear is whatever push mower from lowes I got is going to randomly die and set me back another $500 + yearly gas
I had to look up how much lawn stuff costs and I'm losing my shit. My weed whacker blew up after 8 years and the cheapest ones outside of chinese clones are $220. A good one is probably $400.

Mowers being $500 is insane. Recently mine started backfiring on startup so I assume its about to fuck me in the ass just before the season ends. The worst part is THEY'RE ALL THE SAME FUCKING MOWER with a different sticker, or slightly bigger engine. I just assume they're hoping I put it on a Lowes credit card to pay them interest.

>>3004809
Look around middle to mid-upper class neighborhoods with smallish lawns where people are on the cusp of paying someone else to mow for them and you'll find mowers at the curb that have a gummed up carb from sitting with ethanol gas in them. $15 for a new carb on Amazon and you're good to go with a spare mower. Let someone else buy them new.

>>3004809
I had a backfiring issue that freaked me out, but it turns out the issue was that I was using a spare fuelcap from an old mower and it was on so tight that it was restricting airflow for the motor.
>>3004811
My neighbor had this issue and had to waste a bunch of time at a repair shop. I feel vindicated for buying ethanol free gas since I I'm too lazy to drain it during winter

>>3004811
I live in a middle class area with small lawns, HOAs. The times I have seen mowers were in the spring when they wouldn't start, and then alternatively when people announce they have a mower on the curb a mexican or redneck nabs it immediately.

>>3004788
Nobody on 4chan makes that much unless he posts proof

>>3004860
if you only knew

>>3004809
Just lurk garage sales and yard sales til you find a good one
>mfw I got a good riding lawnmower for $400 from a neighbor but traded him with an electric battery mower for $100, so it only costed me $300
He does small engine repair for a hobby so he had 3 riding mowers for sale and 4th waiting to be worked on in his back yard and he needed the space.

>>3004041
it's 20$/week for someone else to do it on a small residential lot
they do a bunch in the neighborhood, probably make like 40-60$/hr before expenses
i make 25-40/hr
it would take me an hour to get suited up, prep equipment, bathe after
and i spend enough time out in the sun all week in my own job

it's 100% worth it. it's just done every week and I don't have to think about it.
now people that pay for pool service... dunk a jug of chlorine every week and install an autovacuum nerd

>>3004353
i calculate all financial decisions on this metric

>new thing costs x dollars
is this worth (x dollars)/(hourly) hours of my time?
>yes
good deal
>no
no

>this will take me 15 hours to build
>i could buy it for x dollars
>is x dollars < 15 hours (hourly)
>will it be fun?
yes x is less and it no it won't be fun?
buy it

this has been my logic my entire life and has always served me well to make responsible decisions

>>3004022
>Why are so many Americans willing to pay for someone else to mow their lawn?
Because mowing a lawn is annoying, noisy and it's hot out and I have better things to do.

So in my case, the lawn is unmowed, which has the added benefit of annoying my neighbours.

>>3004041
>Your job pays more per hour
People always be saying that, as if they themselves got to choose how many hours they work. Do you weave baskets and get paid a commission per basket woven or what? AFAIK, most jobs that you start with a contract have limited hours, a supervisor decides what your schedule is, and if you ask to be given overtime (with pay) when it's not necessary, you get told to fuck off.

>>3004022
Time is the most precious thing you have, its fleeting and finite.
Mowing the lawn is the definition of wasting your time. Let some dumb kid do it for cheap

>>3004353
You sound like you cover yourself in various bugs, slimes, and pesticides for fun. Are you okay?

>>3004889
>as if they got to choose
In an ideal market economy you get to choose exactly how many hours you work.
>basket weaving
relevance?
>comission
relevance?
>a supervisor decides
No. You signed the contract and if anything it should say on the contract. You can always end the contract. You can always negotiate your terms and if no agreement is reached you don't sign.
Are you a slave or do you need help?
>Ask overtime
>fuck off
Again: If you don't like the results of negotiation, the outcome of which no sane human expects to decide alone, you can always draw your conclusions.

>>3004882
mine was too and they just reported my yard to the county so I had to get someone to help me mow the fuckin yard and move a bunch of boxes off my back porch because otherwise my house might've been marked condemned (supposedly)

>>3004556
You could easily destroy some guy's dumb supercar with even just a handful of marbles, let alone a thousand.

Time, usually.

>>3004876
This is logic done by poor and stupid people.
>but I get paid $40 an hour at work!
Yeah, you're not getting paid that on your day off. Your boss likely isn't paying you to mow your own lawn either. Your time isn't worth that, you're just coming up with girlmath solutions to avoid doing a chore.
Stop pretending you're andrew tate and simple chores aren't monetarily worth your time.

>>3004022
Same reason we have AC and you don't.

>>3004742
Having sex with your wife is hard work. Would you let some mexicans do it so you have more free time?

Why do poors always pocket watch lmao

>>3004939
Good goyim, your every second on this earth shall be taken up doing menial tasks. Knowing your lot is important for producing!

>>3004978
No, I won't be giving you money for "menial tasks" on my homestead. I don't care your company has lower profit because the goyim are taking pride in their own property.

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>>3004984
>taking "pride" in doing menial chores
lul
What a fulfilling and interesting life you have.

>>3004022
poor detected.

>>3004987
Its about as full and interesting as calculating monetary value of your time not tending to your own land.

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>>3004989
You dont have to do much calculating to understand how fucking stupid lawn work is.
Here you are taking "pride" in mowing your "homestead".
I grew up on a farm, in a farm town. Literally everyone has their kids mow the lawn, or they pay some local kids from church to mow their pastures.

Its not a source of "pride", thats literally poorfaggot cope for idiots who have nothing else worthwhile to do.
Yuppies and tik tokers are the ones gussying up their "homestead" and having large amounts of landscaping done, to have such "pride" in the aesthetic.

imagine being so black or hebrew that you don't care about your surroundings

>>3005000
I can imagine being a poor trailer park dweller who takes immense pride in "owning muh own trailer outright" who is scared of a mortgage or credit cards, and yells about jews on the internet all day.
I also imagine that retard is unironically too poor to pay a kid $20 to mow his lawn.

Poor people think its a sign of affluence to have your yard mowed. kek

>>3004939
ok how about i'd happily pay someone $20/week to keep my grass mowed and not have to store a mower, sweat excessively for 45 minutes, worry about it working this week, etc
not to mention I now get an hour of my life to do something I want to do, which is 100% worth it
I often think 'i'd pay 20$ NOT to have to spend two hours watching this movie(example)'
time is precious and I want to spend it doing things I enjoy
>>3004889
uh i worked 72 hours last week and could have worked more. my job would pay me to work as many as i'm willing because it produces value for the company. if you have some 'stand at attention' job I guess you can't relate

but that's not even the totality. If I have an hour of free time I can I can choose to do things that will profit me just as well. research investments, purchase decisions, make investments

so yeah time is money and i'll pay 20$ for an extra hour of free time a day without hesitation
and to just not sweat balls one extra hour of the week

spent 9 hours today crawling under a fucking trailer building and strapping drains. made good money, i'm gonna relax and give a portion to someone to handle menial tasks that don't satisfy me

also it's like a family friend and supporting local business is good

also i fucking hate grass. trying to replace it all with clover/wild flowers and/or fucking rocks
grass is stupid in florida and isn't even nice to touch
i'll probably keep paying them the same just to come touch it up

>>3005006
>projection

>>3005007
Sounds like you should sell your car and use an Uber to go everywhere so you don't have to store a car, maintain it, worry about it working this week, cleaning it, paying for insurance, etc.

You should probably also be a renter so you never have to worry about maintenance, repairs, property taxes, and HOA, etc.

>>3005007
>uh i worked 72 hours last week and could have worked more. my job would pay me to work as many as i'm willing
Well congratulations, you're one of the lucky 0.2%. In normal jobs, the means that are used to get work done (such as machines in a factory, phone lines in a call center, ovens in a kitchen, or the front door in a retail shop) are shut down and locked when they aren't scheduled to be used, so people can't work more even if they want to. Let's not forget about people who drive for a living or operate heavy machinery, who are in most places prohibited from working more than 8 hours (or sometimes less) between each full sleep cycle.

>>3005053
but I don't want to depend on somebody else to get around and wait on them and also it's economically retarded
false equivalency
I love owning a home and remodeling it and doing projects of my own volition
and i get an extra hour every week to do so by not mowing my grass
retard
>>3005077
>so people can't work more even if they want to
again. retard.
there has never been a greater time on earth to sell yourself by the hour for service gigs like uber and deliveries
or just be creative and find a way to turn time into money independently
it's really not that hard
wage slave perception is wild

>>3004022
I enjoy mowing, what I don't enjoy is all the people who think it's some spectacle.
Almost every time I mow there's someone watching me do it. I can't understand it, don't these fucks have anything better to do with their time?

>>3005097
>I love owning a home and mowing the lawn and doing projects of my own volition
and i get an extra hour every week to do so by paying for remodeling.

You earned your first dollar once and acted like a tight and thirsty little bussy ever since.

>>3005324
mowing the lawn isn't a project, there's no creativity or thought
it's listen to podcast and sweat.not sweat because it's hard, it's just fucking florida and you're in the sun.
so yeah, again, you're a retard. i'm paying someone A PITTANCE to save me time and 'care' so I can invest my time elsewhere I will enjoy more
it's really not that complicated
it's 20$/week

>>3005326
>$20/week
Damn nigga, I guess there are some upsides to living among so many mexicans

>>3005329
That tells me his yard is the size of a postage stamp. Lol. What a yardlet.

>>3005326
>too fat and lazy to now a 100 square foot lawn

>>3004041
Pay someone else 50 dollars a week to mow lawn
pay a gym 20 dollars a month to get exercise
genius

>>3004120
TInkering yes because it's absent minded in many cases. I'm a tinkerer and business owner with a lot of "thinking" stuff to do.

But nothing is more cerebral than the low drone and the minor undulations of your whole body as you ride a mower.
That last couple of years I took over mowing my house with about 1.5 acres to mow between chicken pasture, kids yard, etc. I don't weedeat or do stupid shit.
It takes an hour or so and I look forward to that hour of peaceful reflection weekly. I'm literally CALLED to mow and do it as often as I can reasonably.
Booomers are on to something.

It's too loud for other nonsense, but not so loud it's annoying you. It becomes background white noise that DROWNS OUT THE FUCKING BULLSHIT.

I highly recommend mowing.
Now, if you did it all day long...yea...

I'm writing this for well off anons that can afford and have always let someone else do it for reasons.

>>3004433
>most toys
Kids lose on this. Die with money only.
The rest is a bitch you dump on someone.
Maybe keep actual expensive unique shit and keepsakes. Sell everything else, then die.

>>3005007
>$20/week to keep my grass mowed
Are you from the 90s?

>>3005343
>Kids lose on this. Die with money only.
>The rest is a bitch you dump on someone.
>Maybe keep actual expensive unique shit and keepsakes. Sell everything else, then die.
My kids are going to lose bigly. They'll inherit a farm and a fully equipped/stocked shop and a shit ton of equipment. Better sell it all.

>>3004115
Nice. Very nice. Now let's see what happens when you're 50.

>>3005366
I already had this happen. My father was successful, incredibly intelligent, and had 100 hobbies.
I inherited parts, pieces, and projects numbered in the thousands if I added them all up.
All basically worthless without knowing what he even had them for, kek. Great man.
But each generation learns. I will TRY (kek) to liquidate at age 60 for their sake.

Now, he saved shit worth money, but I've been selling it down for five years and still have container loads of the stuff if you added up the volume.
To be honest I should have liquidated it immediately, but emotions and such don't usually allow that.

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>>3005370
I'm 56, fatboy. I mowed and trimmed today, too. Not only did I maintain my property, but I also got a great workout by pushing my mower and swinging my trimmer for 14,000+ steps. In the winter, I clear my 200-foot driveway with a shovel and split about 5 cords of wood with a maul. Age is no excuse for being fat and lazy.

>>3004585
if you can't figure out how to fix a pull start you probably shouldn't be operating anything with a rotating blade on it

something bit or stung me while i was out mowing and gardening today and now my calf is all swollen and painful, i wouldn't mind hiring a Jesus to tank these hits for me

try brushcutting on a mountain sloped property after the rainy season or during

>>3005391
>>3005370
>I'm 56, fatboy.
Fatality, fatboy

>>3005736
It's good genes, jelly lardboy. Cope and see the some more.

>>3005742
I was taunting the fatboy, you oldfag

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>mfw just fixed my lawnmower
I changed the spark plug.

>>3004022
I find hiring house and pool cleaners to be even worse. You can have the TV on in the background for a half an hour while you dust, clean windows, or do dishes then vacuum during commercials.
Go swimming and pick up any leaves while in the pool and even buy a pool sweeper.

>>3004022
Can also depend on the type of land you have. They can build homes in and on the most retarded places. My parents home and their whole neighborhood sits on top of a large uneven hill and with a normal push mower, it takes an hour to mow the front lawn, another hour to mow the back lawn, plus another hour for extra stuff like using a weed eater to finish up. It generally takes 2-3 people to do and 2-3 hours to finish. Not just because it was a big land but how uneven the land was. There's lots of tiny hills and pumps you wouldn't notice until actually walking on.

With a driving mower its much faster but we never had the space for one because my mom had to have her things and plants in the way. Because of all this I always hated mowing by parents lawn growing up. Whenever I used to visit other people's homes as a kid I would always be amazed at how flat and small other people's yards were. You could land a plane on most people's yard but not mines growing up. They wouldn't survive 1 month trying to mow my parents yard with just a push mower.

Eventually my parents got too old and decided to pay people to mow their lawn because I sure as hell wasn't going to do it.