Winter Is Coming Anon. Are you ready? The time for Lumberjack Testosterone is upon us.How many cords will you burn? Do you buy or buck? Show us what you are working with: Splitters, Chainsaws, Axes, Mauls, & Saws. What are you cutting? What are you burning? Where & how are you sourcing? What are you burning in; make, model, year?
1 cord stacked as of yesterday. i still have about a 1/2 cord left uncut. I am about to fire up the chainsaw again. wood is mostly dry, but definitely still needs a finish. the lower photo is mulberry felled 18 months ago but left stacked in 8' logs until yesterday. the upper stack by the house is oak of unknown age given free from some old guy who just wanted it hauled off. i have lots of well aged large elm rounds that are already cut but need split. I also have a fair amount of seasoned, burn-size elm rounds that just need cut. I dont have a moisture meter at this time but I still have a few months before burn season. I keep putting off buying a splitter because im poor, but these fat rounds just keep stacking up as I pick through the smaller burnable rounds. splitting elm with an axe, maul, wedge and sledge is fucking impossible. I've got to get a splitter by next fall. it HAS to happen.
>>3004582I've got this many rounds so far and will probably need about four times as much. it's mostly white ash with a little elm. I've got my eye on a couple of large standing dead white ash trees that should produce three-quarters to a full cord each and a medium half-dead maple that I'll use for overnight logs. I won't split anything until the first good freeze when the water will expand the cracks. Before then, I'll just burn the scraps like those in the foreground and no-split-ems.
>>3004582>>3004653I've been using this CS-400 for eight years and have had to rebuild the carburetor and replace the pull start assembly. Otherwise it's been reliable and effective. I welded a steel pipe handle to the maul since I got really tired of replacing or repairing the fiberglass jobs at least once a year. The pipe handle is heavier but extremely durable.
>>3004582fuck i need to order firewood for winter! holy fuck i forgot. i need 5 cord like now fuck fuck fuck
I've been making cardboard/paper bricks to supplement my firewood
my chainsaw has a very frustrating issue. it seems to develop some sort of fuel vacuum or negative pressure after running. it will run fine up until I shut it off for refueling or chain tension adjustment. once shut down for any reason, it cannot seem to pull fuel back in to restart. there is no vent on the cap or tank to clean. even the prime bulb (seperate from the pull choke) will not fill and pump fuel when pressed after unit has run. if i pull the choke and then try, it will start for 1-2 seconds then die. I then remove choke and it will pull-start for 1-2 seconds then starve. if I leave it alone for many hours until it cools completely, I can restart it.what do anon? if i wasn't so fucking poor I would just buy a husqvarna to upgrade. but this is what I've got to work with so I have to make it work. Model number in photo caption
>>3004787>Husqvarna>to upgradeGet a Stihl sonBut to answer your question, blast the gas tank with brakleen and let it dry
>>3004787Also sharpen and tighten your shitA chains stretches from overheating, a chain overheats from having to force it to cut because it's dull as shit
>>3004802>>3004803Original Anon here.upgraded.Also scored a giant elm. Cunty McCunface threw a fit because a single 3 inch by 6 foot long branch broke off in a storm around midnight sunday evening and landed in her front yard "EnDAnGerInG mY ToDdlEr!!" so she called the city, and our communist housing resource center and claimed the tree was diseased and the property management was neglecting her. Property manager said "alright... tree is diseased and dangerous you say? fine. we'll cut it down, exposing your hovel to 100% of the unabated southern sun. Wish granted."I will, of course, be keeping the wood.I only had 6 hours to procure a lift, buy a new chainsaw & jack what i could before the 5:00pm equipment return window. I got everything high enough to require the lift. I will load the luber tomorrow. since I didnt plan on lumberjacking, I didnt have my trailer. once wood is loaded and area is clear, I will remove the rest of the standing tree.my guess: maybe a cord if im lucky.
>>3005022>I only had 6 hours to procure a lift, buy a new chainsaw & jack what i could before the 5:00pm equipment return windowOh no baby, what is you doin'?Just cut the tree down, then cut it upBut awesome that you upgraded fren
>>3005022Oh and a MASSIVE money saver when running a saw is mixing your own gas. Just get a gallon gas jug and a gallon of 2 stroke oil. 2.6fl oz in a gallon is 50:1
I'm about to build me one of these. Was camping this past year and our camping neighbor had one.....dam it splits amazing with just a sledgehammer. The logs don't bounce!
>>3005045>The logs don't bounce!What the fuck are you doing that they bounce?
>>3005045That style was invented by a 14-year-old girl that wanted to help her dad split firewood.
>>3005045I would add a slide-hammer type deal on top to slam down on the wood instead of having to use a sledgehammer
why not a fan to blow on stove?
I bought a Makita corded 120v electric saw to cut rounds in my shed/driveway, it's working great. I'm keeping my gas saws of course, but the electric one is so much more handy for work near/in the buildings.If you live near a city or similar and have to scavenge for wood or don't have a woodlot, call up tree services and tell them that you'd take logs and/or chips, and at least here in the Midwest they'll drop a dual axle dump trailer right in your driveway of whatever a nearby job produced. Not always the best wood but it always burns. I just finished splitting and stacking a cord and a half of oak and I'm working on another cord or two of maple. They dumped two huge loads of wood chips which we use to mulch heavily around our fruit trees. We planted them in orchard rows and mulch the whole row deep and wide, the free mulch works great and the top layers will be decomposing as the bottom layers a few years from now, helping with moisture and providing nutrients. If shit hits and I need to triple our garden space, I can quickly pull back the mulch and plant right in the now-compost underneath.Most tree services around here would rather not haul too far away or (God forbid) have to pay to dump it, so with a few calls and a low time preference you can get trees brought to you instead of having to get them yourself!
>>3005345I stumbled upon this silliness a year or two ago.https://getchipdrop.com/
too soon but i was supposed to build a compact oil burner forgot about that
my progress continues. I cut down several trees last week at my boss' house, but they are not pictured. I'll go pick them up in a few weeks.I've done several measurements and calculations and I still only come up reliably with under 3 cords. at a glance it looks like more (there are several smaller piles of oak, pear, peach, apple, pecan, and other grilling/smoking quality not in photo) but I do not benifit from bullshitting myself. photo is about 60/40 elm/mulberry heat-use-exclusive. only 2 cords are seasoned for this year.today's effort: I ran one tank out in the new MS271 bucking down my most recent elm for better seasoning. I have decided to just rent a 30T splitter this year. cost is $150 for Saturday & Sunday. hopefully I can just buy one for next season. this year's big expense will be a 4600w solar panel expansion plus another 5.12Ah LiFePO4, so a $2000-$3000 splitter isnt in the cards right now.
>>3004582Picked up this one last week. It'l heat up my workshop that I also sleep in. We'll see how the winter goes. I have some wood, but not sure it's enough. If bad comes to worse, I'll just start dismantling the half rotten patio, maybe buy some coal.
No stupid question thread, so y'all'll have to do. Daft question, fellas. Got an old lady who asked me for help taking out a thru-the-wall AC unit earlier this year. Fast forward to now, she hasn't put in a replacement. We're in like Zone 4. The fuck needs to be done to winterize the sleeve so gram doesn't turn into a Popsicle in -40 degrees F? Stuff it with 7 inches of fiberglass cladding and a cover over the outside part of the sleeve, plus the plastic one on the inside?
i bought a sengoku kero heater on whim. for some reason i feel like this winter is going to be horrible.i have 5 cord cut but the -20f nights cannot be reasoned with just a wood stove.and i have my oil furnace as a back up. odd that kero is cheaper than diesel right now. MIGA!
>>3007977>he -20f nights cannot be reasoned with just a wood stovehouse insulation, ever heard of 'er?
>>3007999Yeah I stuff my walls with the body parts of your family members
I have plenty of wood to work and plenty of saws to cut it. Got splitter envy real bad since the only thing available is a shitty single pole 4.5hp. My uncle has a few Bless splitters, PTO drive double pole 4’ blade. Can split a cord in an hour if you’ve got it stacked and ready. I would honestly rather use a maul than a shitty splitter. Better to have loved and lost than to have never split wood on a professional splitter
>>3007999>>3008000Since we are discussing insulation and envelope effeciency:We have zip board and tape sheathing, 2x4 walls, 2x10 rafters, open cell sprayfoam, synthetic underlayment and architectural asphalt composition shingles. we get incredible performance out of our envelope. our weak points are our front and rear entry doors. both have a shite kerf seal, always have. windows are jeld-wen off-the-shelf big box store drop-ins. they are double paned, but builder grade, they do alright i guess, but you have to make an effort to shut them fully and properly or they whistle when the wind picks up. our house (great room) usually hovers around 25° regardless of how bitter it gets outside. -25° is not unheard of around here. 50°ΔT... comfy. it stays cooler in the master, but it has its own stove (Morsø 1410). it can get too hot if we arent careful. we usually load and light it right before we get in the shower. I close the door & intake when we get out and it will hover around 22° then slowly burn down overnight and is usually around 18°-20° when we wake up in the morning.
>>3008003>splitter envythey make a decent press brake too
Posted in another thread too but any ideas about this chainsaw problem I am having? >>3008186
>>3008000so that's why you freeze your ass off.
>>3005022>single 3 inch by 6 foot long branch broke off in a storm around midnight sunday evening and landed in her front yard "EnDAnGerInG mY ToDdlEr!!" so she called the city, and our communist housing resource center and claimed the tree was diseased and the property management was neglecting her.All of my hate for these 'people'
>>3004582>How many cords will you burn?Wtf is a cord? I'm not an amerifart. I burn around 1/4 ton per year, but that's because I'm at the cottage only a couple weeks per year>Do you buy or buck?I've bought oak and haev burned my own from my own land>Show us what you are working with: Splitters, Chainsaws, Axes, Mauls, & Saws.I have a saw and a pruning saw. The axe was made of chinesium and broke>What are you cutting?Fast growth pine. It's what I have>What are you burning inA stove that I bought second hand for 150 euros. It gets the place up to 34 centigrade. For amerifarts, that almost 100 fahrenheit. Then I have to open the windows because no one can sleep in a room that hot
>>3007628I think those are made for coal. I had one and it was a pain to feed wood into that
>>3008202Yo mama is so fat that the edgy tard-anons walls actually has a decent R-value.He just hasn't insulated his roof.
>>3008207>34 centigradeSubhuman.Most of the 'Amerifarts' ITT are doing much more serious shit that you, you sound like it's pretty much a hobby.
>>3008208You're right, but most wood dealers around me sell it cut to 25cm which works ok. I might end up buying coal anyway, from my calculations it seems to be the cheapest option.
>>3008322if coal is an option you should definitely go coal. coal stoves fire from below, wood stoves fire from above. burning wood in a coal stove gives you an inefficient burn because of this. this means you are burning more wood for less BTU. compound that with coal just being a higher BTU/kg fuel, then add in the fact that is an old technology stove and your losses become crippling. short version:Coal saves you money and heats better.
>>3008343I need to experiment a bit first. I'm in the middle of a fancy residential area, so most people are using electric/gas heat, and won't like smoke/smell. So far I've tried coal briquettes, I can get really clean burn if I warm the stove a bit with wood, then clean it, fill it up from the top and light a wood fire on the very top. Burns about 20 hours. These aren't that much expensive compared to coal. Coal is about 400$ a ton, 425$ for the briquettes. I've looked at wood ones, they are more expensive than coal per kwh. I also have some scrap aluminium saved, I'm going to build a fin radiator on the smoke pipe.
>>3008602In my experience, the efficiency of the stove has a huge impact on how much heat it outputs and how long the fuel lasts. When I updated my old cast iron shop stove with a modern one I got in trade it was a night and day difference in how much heat it put out and how long the fuel would last. In this case, just plain wood. No idea how old the old stove was. At least 40+ years.
my estimated cost of heating this winter:$180 for the entire season. the breakdown goes like this:1300kwh elecric for 2x EG4 12K BTU heat pumps = $195 (~15¢/kwh)1.3 cords of "free" elm/mulberry, some oak $85 splitter rental.I dont have enough *seasoned* wood to go 100% solid fuel this year. I have about 2.5 cords but about 1/3 to 1/2 of that is very green, only having been logged 2 months ago. as such, we will use our mini-splits.>the positive mini-split variable (bonus)our house has a $7kW solar system (gried-tied, non-export, 20.5kwh LiFePO4 battery) that supplies about 70% of our power. this drops our *heating specific, grid purchased* cost to about $75-$100 for 2026-2027 season. lets just assume $95 is our grid purchase this season. then we will apply the entire $85 splitter rental to this year's burn for simplicity. combine = $180 total actual cost to heat our home this winter. and on that note, Anon, I must go drive into town and pick up the splitter. I will update with some photos later on. HAPPY & PRODUCTIVE LUMBERJACKING TO ALL & BE SAFE OUT THERE!
Day 2 of splitting.I split for 6 hours yesterday with few breaks. Double acting splitfire. despite that, I bet I only made it through 1 cord. way slower than i was expecting. splitter has to go back tomorrow morning. i should make it through the rest today. ive still got a fair amount i will need to cut shorter, but i better 85% will be good to go as is.
local firewood jew just raised his prices for 400 a cord.it's worth it though because iran cannot have a nucular bombmaga
>>3008958firewood always gets expensive in the fall/winter. its a seasonal commodity didnt you ever read the fable of the any and the grasshopper?
>>3008963nah, 400 a cord is unheard of unless you are a restaurant in the middle of NYC.sub 300 is max for dry in middle of the winter.wait a minute, you sell firewood don't you, moshe?
>>3008977i havent cut wood to sell since high school circa 2003. was selling oak for 175 and fir at 125 then which if corrected for infinity m2 printing since would be way more than 400 nowand i quickly decided it wasnt worth doing it back then either git gud grasshopper
it is done.started at 10:00 finished at 18:00 today. two piles to the back (left of frame) are 85% seasoned. they've been sitting for 18-14 months, but were only bucked last month. the two giant piles up front (right of frame) are less than 2 months old. still not sure how many proper cords there are. I will get it stacked later this week and finally have an accurate measurement. but if i had to guess i would say 1 cord seasoned, 1.5 cord green. there is wood behind the seasoned piles that dosent show well in the photo and we have about 1/4 cord stacked on a rack by the back door.glad its done.
>>3008958and for 700 you can get yourself a chainsaw that will give you a dozen or more cord every winter for years.There is always deadfall to burn, ask a local farmer there will absolutely be a few who would be happy for someone to clear some trees away from fence lines or out of sloughs in their fields.
We stacked about .75 cord tonight. all of the seasoned, cut/split mulberry. I have another .25 cord of seasoned elm that could fill in the gap, but I think i will keep the two seperate. I still have probably 1.75 cord [unseasoned] of mostly elm and some mulberry that is split but just piled up currently. i will get it stacked at some point over the next week during the evenings after work.
If you don't need at least 8 cord to get through the winter, you don't have a winter.
>>3009191insulation helps
>>3009215Yes you're right, why would a guy who needs more than 8 cord of firewood not live in an insulated house? It's almost like that would be part of the building code and only an absolute fucking asinine moron would think for even a second "maybe this guy doesn't have insulation in his house?"Idiot.
>>3009237What kind of absolute moron would live in a house without insulation?
>>3009247asking the wrong anon
That saw would most likely a weapon bc of the sharp parts, read the pinned thread idk -_-
>>3009247morons that make moronic statements like >>3009191, probably
>>3009312Let me guess, you live in the states and you think you actually get a winter?Your frigid north is my balmy south.
>>3009191>>3009215>>3009237>>3009247>>3009312insulation can and should definitely be part of this post and discussion. that's why I listed mine above:>>3008170>We have zip board and tape sheathing, 2x4 walls, 2x10 rafters, open cell sprayfoam, synthetic underlayment and architectural asphalt composition shingles. we get incredible performance out of our envelope. our weak points are our front and rear entry doors. both have a shite kerf seal, always have. windows are jeld-wen off-the-shelf big box store drop-ins. they are double paned, but builder grade, they do alright i guess, but you have to make an effort to shut them fully and properly or they whistle when the wind picks up.rather than just making baseless assumptions and flinging crap like monkeys, maybe we can list, discuss, evaluate building envelopes and actual insulation values. OSB, ZIP, shiplap, clapboard, Tyvek, tar paper or synthetic underlayment. sprayfoam; open/closed cell, fiberglass batting (r-value & size), rockwool, asbestos, Styrofoam panels, or just D-logs and chinking.lets have a functional thread on winter heating here, Anon. Will we insult and prod? absolutely, but lets also provide context and basis for our shit-flinging.
>>3009323wrong and dumb again
>>3009324stfu nerd
>>3009323Imagine bragging about living in a frozen wasteland...
>>3009337Imagine being a hipster about firewood in a climate that doesn't need it.
What's a good log store design for damp clomate?how much airflow do I need?
>>3009366split and ricked with pallets underneath then tarpedlasts over 5 yrs before getting punky from bugs and dry rot and the tarp uv degrades to confetti but no sense in cutting that far ahead anyways t. temperate rainforest dweller
>>3009346Some winters around here are harsh, some are not. I keep some firewood on hand at all times. Not even close to hipster about it. Keep projecting if you must.
>>3009391define harsh
>>3009392Sometimes we'll get a few weeks in a row below zero before it warms back up into the 40s and 50s, Some winters it will barely get below freezing at all.
>>3009396That's cute.Try -30 to -40
>>3009403its so fucking pleasant living somewhere it only goes below freezing maybe 5 nights a winter i sweat my ass off inside all winter in my 2400 ft^2 house on only 2.5 cords a year
>>3009404It's a lot easier to dress warmer than it is to make yourself cool off.There is a reason high IQ evolved in northern climes.
>>3009403Once again, imagine bragging about living in a frozen wasteland. No thanks. I have livestock to take care of.
>>3009407Our 120 angus cows have no trouble with the weather.
>>3009408Thats nice dear. I don't care.
>>3009413You do or you wouldn't have brought it up as some sort of point against living in the north.
>>3009416Only a complete buffoon would say, "Gee this winter has been really nice, wish it would get stupidly cold for my livestock. Have fun with yourself up there. Huddle around your fire and talk about how you're a real man that burns 8 cords a year and keep on trying to gatekeep the woodstove general thread on 4chan... That ought to keep you nice and warm. That's the equivalent of me saying, gosh the drought was bad this year, but I hope it gets hotter and drier around here so my livestock can suffer some more... Do you see how retarded that sounds? Go on and brag about how cold it is in your shithole some more. Pat yourself on the back a few more times for me too. Good job little buddy!
>>3009436Your reading comprehension is abysmal and your strawman is weak
>>3009455You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded.
>>3009457Not surprised that you're a pothead
>>3009458You realize there's at least 4 or 5 people in here bashing on you because you came in here being a giant dickhead right off the bat right? Fuck off back to the north even more. You call 8 cords a winter? No one here will respect you until you burn 16 cords per winter you little bitch sally... Go ahead and move into the arctic circle to really show us!
>>3009477Your split personalities don't count.
How big is yours, anons?
>>3009493loaded up and on the way for splitting
>>3009408>Our 120 angus cowsRunning less than 200 pairs. ISHYGDDTOpinion disregarded. Come back when you've done something with your life.
>>3009519Chirp at me when you aren't spending your life in slavery to the banks.More isn't always more.
>>3009522>Chirp at me when you aren't spending your life in slavery to the banks.>More isn't always more.Lol. I owe zero money to anyone. Keep projecting though!
>>3009524Why would you lie on the internet? Who would do that?!
I just love it when threads devolve into shitflinging because someone is lying on the internet, pretending to be a badass, and contributing nothing to the discussion. If you don't reply to idiots and or larpers, you may not "have the last word" but the thread doesn't suck and stays on topic.
>>3009593you're on 4chan
>>3009603your*
>>3009608Idiot
>>3009496About half done splitting that truckload
>>3004787Agreed with other anon, husq has some parts made in india, worst stihl has is chinese carb/fuel system everything else is europe,mostly germany.and you can get german aftermarkets to replace the two chink bits.
is there an archive of wood stove installation manuals?Building code in these parts is "whatever it says to do in the manual".Some fella wants me to install a used stove. I want to install it for him. He doesn't have any of the documentation. What do?
>>3009630fireboard underneath and on any walls beside/behind, keep it at least a foot away from the walls.
>>3009593this thread sucked from the first post
>>3008954I looked at your complete project,nice. I converted cords to m3 and it does seems low for 6 hours work. It can be several reasons. Type of wood,splitter runs slow,experience, how many movements you make,location of the wood etc. I have a standing splitter,german machine. I split about 30-40 m3 a year for personal use. I burn 20-25m3 a year. I'm a logger,wood is free. It's good to have at least 3 years reserve,if you have the place. A lot of people around me have 10 year reserve.I use to do it manually but I'm getting older and now the splitter is more interesting because I can work longer. I burn everything that comes from a tree. From roots to leaves. I also have a chipper that runs on the pto of my little tractor. I burn chips as well. It's not a regular chipper. I specifically bought it to make big chips,for easy drying and burning,it works with a screw instead of a teeth/blades. If you ever see a logging site,there is sometimes fuel laying there for decades to burn,nobody wants it but you have to work for it . For the logging company or owner it's not valuable to waste time on. My father has never spend 1 cent on heating the house, I'm mid 50's and has never spend 1 cent on heating the house. In winter the stove is handy for cooking as well,things like soup,stews ,etc. It's also a clean energy source, people who say :no ,electricity, solar and wind are clean are very short sighted.I like wood. It's not for everyone and I'm very happy for that because otherwise there would be no trees left. As someone mentioned, yes sometimes wood is expensive, ridiculously expensive. I work in the sector,a lot of speculation etc ,for example now the oil prices. The wooddealer will almost double his prices and he will tell you that's because it's so expensive to get it to you. I personally see wood as a source for rural people, it's the cheapest and most convenient, it's just there. Just replant. I planted tenthousands. govs hate woodburners bc they can't tax em,yet.
>>3009610trolling is a art
>>3005045Ever have a wet round that the maul just sinks into and sticks? Imagine jamming one of those down on the blade, each hit drives it further and further down, burying the blade in the still-whole log until the top is flush, making the world's ugliest table.
>>3005045wow you just replaced one simple effective tool with a bigger set of bullshit contraption
>>3009677To be fair, you fuck up the moment you choose to split that piece, by axe, splitter or this device.Part of this skillset involves knowing when to leave wood to sit and dry before it goes on the block.
>>3009688dilligaf jumbo splitter go brrrrt. 50t hydooliks
>>3009710Pfft, axe or go home.logsplitters are too slow.
>>3009677>until the top is flushso just put the next round in and keep hammering like a glue gun
>>3009614all done packing up that tree, 4 truckloads to haul the whole thing home.Most stuff around here is 5-15 trees for one truckload.
>>3005045just use wedges
>>3009725Nice load ,and dry for immediate use. Looks like death by barkbeetle.
>>3009725It usually takes 5-15 trees for one small pickup load of wood?
>>3009816yes, the poplar in plains is hardly what I would call "trees" and most of the cutting isn't about what's best to burn, it's what needs to be cleared from fencelines.This spruce was a rare exception where I was in the coulee and found a gorgeous perfectly dry huge tree that wasn't far out of reach of where I could drive my truck.there is an even bigger one about half a kilometre away from where I got this, but it's only accessible by foot and I am not walking the rounds to and from the truck through the terrain that intercedes.
told myself I'd get someone to check my chimney since it hasn't been swept in like 70 yearsmehit'll be fine for one more yearall I burn in the woodstove is firelogs and cardboard anyway
>>3004582My grandma used to have one that looked exactly like the upper left. So nostalgic
>>3005045how about something that uses a big ass lever, like a log, to force a round through a splitter.might be horizontal and might use live standing trees as fulcrums.two trees....set axe blade against near tree pointing out and place round in front of blade. then place lever-log behind far tree and walk lever forward to push round onto axe.
>>3005346nice idea, prob is only want to to drop a full 9yards load.if the city wasn't run by women and Jeets, they could dump a load in the City Hall parking lot and supply big sacks and snow shovels.No one ever parks there anyways except once a month.chips are great for turning dirt/mud into "self cleaning" surface to set kayaks and other large objects on.
>>3004582No I don't know how to install mineIs it hard?
>>3010162The lever is a great idea, but slow pressing is a terrible way to generate force, which is why we put a weighted wedge on the end of the lever and swing it to provide power not just through the lever, but by momentum as well, this comes with the additional benefit of being hand-portable.
>>3009324>just wrap your house in plastic bronoinsulation is for basedboys, women and children
what do you call it
>>3010533Kindergarteners first sketch. Get mom to put it on the fridge.No idea whats depicted, dont try to run when you cant even crawl.
>>3010533I'm guessing you are trying to depict an outdoor boiler and associated liquid heat exchanger in the central air/heat ducting?
>>3009766this is a big wedge fixed in place
>>3004582how come I never see any floor fan pointed at one of these? wouldn't that increase the heat output massively or at least add a whole new layer of output regulation?also maybe a floor to ceiling semi-solid curtain, maybe on floor and ceiling tracks, in case trapping and slowing/containing the heat is the thing to do, like maybe you want a low slow burn to you turn the air inlet way down, but you want the internal temp to stay hot for clean burn or WTF.
>>3010619we have insulation and there are fans made to go on top of the stove that operate by the heat it generates.Are you stoned?
>>3010619>>3010656we have no central ducting in our house.what we have instead: ceiling fans in every room, we run them clockwise during winter to bring air up, along celing, then down the walls, in theory. in practice it at least stirrs and prevents stratification and equalizes the rooms. one 12kBTU mini-split in great room. we have two 20cm diameter by 50cm long ducts with 400-800cfm inline fan bringing up air from our basement and exhausting at floor level. one is in the 2nd bedroom NW side of house, the other is SE corner of great room behind our Defender II woodstove. this turbocharged the vertical rise of radiant heat current from the primary stove to speed mixing & distribution. in the coldest weeks of heating season, we run a tower fan 1m inside the 2nd bathroom pointed/blowing out to mitigate any risk of frozen pipes. (2nd bath is between 2nd/3rd bedrooms on N end of house) our 3rd "bedroom" isnt really a bedroom. it is our preparedness supply room; medical supply, DIY library, hunting equip/supplies, freeze dryer, wine fridge, sewing, textile and emergency supplies. the freese dryer is often running during winter which also heats the prep room as a byproduct, as does the wine fridge. our master bed/bath suite has it's own Morsø stove and mini-split. kitchen provides supplementary heat via either our propane convection stove or the wood fired oven & cooktop since wife is almost always cooking something. our winter temperatures are always comfortable, well mixed and distributed evenly.
>>3010675if you're in a dwelling where ducting is not code requisite then yeah.... I've got to wonder how you view your climate as even needing wood to be burnt, I don't bother turning on central heating (as a backup for the woodstove, can't be home keeping it running full all day every day) or start burning until after temperatures drop below freezing, anything down to even 1C is just "wear a sweater, grab another blanket"
>>3010680>1Cwhat is that in terms of relation to gas station nacho cheese and the barrel of a freedom-15 after mag dumping a stendo?
>>30106890C is the temperature at which water freezes hence my statement "below freezing" fuck man, even if you don't know C my post made it reasonably clear.
>>3010680>>3010691I have never heard of *ducting* being required for code anywhere that i have been. I am aware of code requirements for adequate heating, but none for ductwork to distribute any sort of climate controlled air. there is only a requirement for adequate heating in residential structures, none for cooling, at least in my area. our house was built in 2023. even if there were codes in the nearest towns, we are so far away from them and their jurisdiction, they wouldn't apply to us. we didnt even have to get a certificate of occupancy for our house when complete. if we are discussing codes that *could* have affected us, I would be more concerned about the woodstove in our master bedroom. i have heard of several jurisdictions where woodstoves are not allowed in sleeping quarters... but that did not apply to us either.ductless heat-pump mini-splits would not be a marketshare if all homes were required to have central fan and ductwork. i have been in dozens of houses over my lifetime that had no ductwork or central fan of any kind.I think you may be confusing code requirements for basic heating with your thing about duct and distribution.as for>I've got to wonder how you view your climate as even needing wood to be burnt. its gets down to -25° on the regular here during winter, and can go lower. so that's just nonsense. we have to heat our house because we live in a civilized country with indoor plumbing & running water. sure... our EG4 mini-splits *can* operate down to -15° before they start to struggle. that said; i get paid to log & load most of my wood so it is cheaper. wood heat is just better, and thats not even considering the general ambiance of winter it brings with it. plus, every kW i dont use for heating is a spare kW stored in battery that i have for backup in case of an actual emergency, or just watching Netflix while my "neighbors" freeze their asses off and panic about frozen pipes.
>>3010694And as you already stated in elaborate detail, no ducting makes you jump through hoops to properly heat your domicile.
>>3010700a single tower fan set up in the 2nd bathroom is "jumping through hoops" to properly heat my house?elaborate.
>>3010717Oh yeah now its just one tower fan when your first description was a fucking psragraph outlining the fans in every room of the house to ensure circulation.You know >>3010675 thos is still visible, right burgermutt?
>>3010718ceiling fans are standard in all houses unless you live in a trailerhouse, barefoot in the hills. which also explains why you wouldn't understand how basement circulation works either.those things are standard in houses that don't have wheels.
>>3010717>elaborateyou see hes an asshurt yuro that has been brainwashed into believing that turning his thermostat above his iq number will somehow cause pooteen to conquer the eeeyoo and finally make the last step in erasing democracy or something like thatthe rest of us will just sit around in our underwear sweating it out extra comfy all winter
>>3009525It's not exactly a reach to imagine someone owning their own home outright. It's actually pretty common.
>>3010721>It's actually pretty common.Home ownership rates in the USA still have not recovered to the level they were before 2008. Its going to take another decade or more to get back to that level, if it ever does. The way the shudder of clowns we call our government has been running this circus the past 75 years it is a wonder everything hasn't all burned down to the waterline and sunk.
>>3010721Only amongst the demographic that deserves to be hung and disemboweled for what they did to the rest of us.
>>3004582With secondary combustion the fuel burns clean (no smoke) and is more efficient at extracting all the usable energy; HOWEVER it's not necessarily the best. It burns fast and hot and all that heat has to be stored in mass of material so that it doesn't quickly overheat the room - the mass then gives off heat for many hours. However, a low and slow burn might actually do a better job. With a quick-hot burn the mass cannot instantly soak up all the heat that is given off - it absorbs slow and releases slow. But a slower burning fire, even though it is less efficient, has more time to push the heat into the mass. I saw an experiment on youtube where the two methods were compared, and 12 hours later the slow-fire's oven temperature was significantly higher. Has anyone tried this comparison and found similar results?
>>3010729Wife and I are about $74k away from outright ownership. while that is still a giant number in our financial world, it is only 16.5% of the total value of our house & property. 30 year note with 26 years remaining. we will own our home outright long before retirement. I am Gen X, wife is Millennial. I chose to work, earn and invest in myself, rather than blame the generation before me for everything.>>3010731both of our heating stoves are modern, high efficiency, non-catalytic secondary-burn stoves. the cookstove is still 1800's technology, but it claims 65-70% efficient nonetheless. we added a pivoting stovepipe damper about 1m up the pipe. its a masonry stove, that combined with the long exhaust travel path and the radiance of the cooktop it can put out a surprising amount of heat relatice to the small firebox.we start and burn hot then baffle down for low and slow. that does cost us a lot of reburn, but we get the heat we need and it dosent feel like we gobble wood. the Morsø is cast iron and the Defender is plate steel.
>>3010737>we own outright>actually we only owe 74k>actually we have almost 3 decades left before we might ownLMFAO right, let's see you in 26 years when you're divorced and thinking of killing yourself in a bachelor apartment, or at best, you've remortgaged the house 2 times.You are EXACTLY what I said earlier, a fucking slave to the banks, figure it out dipshit.
>>3010739 #the origional mortgage was 211,000 we have paid off $137,000 in 4 years. that includes the first year as an interest only construction loan. it is valued at $425,000 to $450,000 currently. we won't be paying on it for 26 years. wife and I are best friends, happy and cleave to eachother forsaking all others. there are people who arent miserable, have aligned goals, values and are actually in love. we are those people. we built a life that we love, together. it binds us. our mortgage is our only debt. we dont buy what we can't afford or things we dont need to impress people we dont like, therefore we have no reason mortgage our house. when we pay it off, thats it, we are done with banks and loans. we have savings, insurance and a tax advantaged investment account as a buffer and income when i retire. if SHTF we could just use our savings and investments to pay it off, but it is tax and income advantageous to let that grow at 6%-14% while we pay 5% on our mortgage.if you live life methodically, with a purpose, plan for tomorrow and get up when others give up, it is absolutely possible to be happy and succeed. that is how we live, but by all means, you do you, Anon.woodstoves are comfy.
>>3010729I don't know what you're talking about but it sounds like whining to me. Work hard and you too can own your own home.
>>3010739Just because your parents hated each other and divorced doesn't mean that's the norm. Actually, it probably goes a long way toward explaining your piss poor attitude. Shape up, get some fresh air. You don't need to be negative to fit in here.
>>3010789>the first year as an interest onlyYes, you've already been identified as a slave to the bank.Protip: don't count unhatched eggs as being Chickens.
>>3010789How many kids do you have? That's all that really matters. Everything else about loving your wife is just lip service.
>>3010802Not that anon, but no, that isn't "all that matters." Life isn't just "have as many kids as possible and die."
>>3010803If you're married and choosing not to have kids, you are not fulfilling your marrital obligation. Lie to yourself all you want, but I won't believe it.
>>3010803>but thats where your wrong kiddo
>>3010803it literally is, self-gratification is meaningless outside your own neurons.
>>3010826breeding and spreading your genes is meaningless outside of the eolutionary survival of the fittest.
>>3010731>ith a quick-hot burn the mass cannot instantly soak up all the heat that is given off - it absorbs slow and releases slow.just design a mass heater with more surface area to absorb more heat then
>>3010890>I am dysgenicThen quit consuming resources, we're overpopulated.
>>3010895no, i don't think i will. what are you gonna do about it, cry? maybe shit and piss your pants?
>>3010905I've already contributed to the future of the human race, you're a fart in the wind.
>>3009191I have a buddy who lives off grid in Central Alaska with a woodstove as his only heat source and he only burns 5-6 cords a winter in a bad year so I think you must be doing something wrong.
>>3010933Just because its farther north doesnt mean shit, faribanks (central alaska) typically sees -27c from what I understand, whereas parts of southern canada can see -45c, fairbanks is much farther north, alaska benefits from being close to the ocean, and large bodies of weather stabilize temperatures, central canadian plain being far from that effect get swingy extremes.
>>3010937of water* ive been drinking.
>>3010721It is quite odd that he claims to not be a slave to the banks with 120 cows, yet cannot fathom I don't owe anyone a dime with 200 cows. It's almost as if he is a larping faggot. He also hasn't shown his 8+ cord woodpile either although bragged about needing 8 cords per winter. Quite strange behavior...
>>3010952Examine the wording of the statement in that post and try to engage in higher order thinking.
>>3010910congrats on another cog for the goymachine
>>3010968>if you go extinct, you win and your enemies lose
>>3010984cant rape the willing
>>3010960>most people don't own their homes outright, therefore nobody can own their home outright. Uh, ok... You do you man. I'll keep cashflowing everything and not owe anybody a damn thing.
>>3010993Only if you consider race-traitor boomers and jews to not be "people"
>>3010994Absolutely seething! How about getting off the internets for a bit there kiddo? Maybe you can do a little soul searching and work on bettering your own life. t. not a boomer, or a jew.
>>3011001if you're still the same anon as earlir, you've already stated very clearly you don't own shit, you have a near 30 year obligation to hand money over and MAYBE you'll own something then.but thats a long time between then and now for your hopes and dreams to go up in smoke for any of a large number of reasons.you can't call yourself an owner when you owe.
>>3011011you are making an ass of yourself to at least 3 different anons.i feel sorry for you that your life is so sad that you feel you need to comment on a DIY board, contributing nothing DIY, on a thread about heating your house with wood, being productive and mastering your resources. instead whinging about how others choose to live their very satisfied lives and tout their skills and actual accomplishments. your anger and absolutely pointless, aimless racism defines you. when *every single person* around you is "wrong" or "stupid" you are the problem, not them. you should solve yourself and maybe all the people in your real-life orbit wouldn't despise you while simultaneously feeling sorry for you. you make me genuinely feel sad for you.can we please just get back to WOOD HEAT AND STOVES!??!
>>3011012>3That's entirely an assumption, an anon can only know up to 2 for certain, so you must be talking about a multiple personality disorder.
>>3011011>if you're still the same anon as earlir, you've already stated very clearly you don't own shit, you have a near 30 year obligation to hand money over and MAYBE you'll own something then.Yeah that's definitely not me. I'm the one with 200 head of cattle that owes no one a god damn thing, yet you ASSumed I did for some reason, and then called me a liar... You're a sad pathetic excuse. By the way you still haven't posted up your gigantic wood pile that you apparently have...
>>3011025probably because I have been continuing a chain of responses one after another and at some point one or the other of you jumped into that chain in placeof the other, I am making a continous argument, you and the other(s) are trading places without explicit announcement (ie; prefacing the post with NTA)This is not reddit, there are no profiles, this is not /pol/ there are no poster id's, not even an IP count, if you do not wish to be mistaken for another anon STATE WHO YOU ARE REPEATEDLYYes, this is frustrating to have to do, but the jannies of the blue boards seem to have unanimously decided that a lack of identification to posters is a benefit, likely to facilitate external discord-arranged raids.if you do not, I will presume I am talking to the same anon.
>301103won>STATE WHO YOU AREno fuck you lurk moar and catalog poasting styles then its easy to discern b/w anons (you) nuphagget
>>3011032>catalog poasting stylesyeah no one living the life you claim to has the time to do this, you're admitting to being a basement dwelling loser who lives here to the exclusion of all else.
>>3011033Lol, dumbass thinks he was talking to me again. Jesus Christ dude, get your shit together and post some pics of your woodpile. You are right though, I am busy, and basically have time to come in here once or twice a day to own you. Other than that I'm off doing more productive things. You might want to quit being so autistic and learn how to differentiate between writing styles to tell people apart on here, Either that or you could just go back to plebbit and stay there where you belong.
>>3011087>i wont say im not that other anon>oh wait im actually not that other anon>haha I just owned youyeah it's plain as day that you're just pretending to be a grownup, kiddo.
>>3011031Poor you, having to keep track of whom you're getting into arguments with. What's the point, guy?
>>3011114Hey kiddo, get a life.
frigid 59 outside the vermin seem to appreciate the fire
>>3011229Show your pussy, slut.
>>3011230Pussy and Wood Heat.keep it on topic.
>>3011230Pussy and wood heat.
>>3011252Hot!
>>3011229....do you seriously start your fire with a propane torch?!
>>3011259yes because the toilet paper rag of a newspaper only publishes one a week now and they switched to so kind of semigloss paper that doesnt really burnsometimes when im really feeling lazy i dont even use kindling just blast piece of fir for 30 seconds and roberts your mothers brother
>>3011279flyers end up in the mailbox a couple times a week and I have stacks of that glossy shit that starts just fine from a standard bic lighter.
rigged this up for my smoking wood. the pallets are only 3.5ft so they dont quite make a cord. hickory on the right, cherry in the middle. gonna fill the last section with red and white oak when i get more time to split
>>3011279propane torch is the best. aint got time to fuck around and one little coleman cannister lasts forever
>>3011323what time? crumpling newspaper and flicking a lighter takes about just as much time as torching kindling.
