I've got recalled polybutylene pipes in my 90s homeHow fucked am I
>>3008611As long as you didn’t drink any of the water, or cook with it, or wash your clothes with it, you’ll be fine.
>>3008611Just re-pipe the place. That is the solution. Get some quotes from 3-5 plumbers. The numbers they give you is how fucked you are. Don't replace it with PEX or you will be back here in 10-20 years.
>>3008611There are tons of theories for why polyb failed, some say it was the fittings, some say it was manufacturing related, some say it's the water quality (chlorine apparently)Nobody knows, but it's survived this long, it's probably ok. >>3008621Pex is fine retard
Do PEX. It is so cheap you can't afford not to.
>>3008624They said the same about polybutylene
>>3008611Any kind of plastic pipe means you are cucked. Enjoy your female breasts hormone water and flooded house and ugly shit wobbly pipes. Get autistic and have straight line pipes. Lovely copper pipes very nice. Oh it costs a tiny bit more? What are you poor? It's plumbing a house one off cost. Aka investment.If pex was 10% of the cost to install ofcopper I'd get it. But it's not it's like 90%.
>>3008638Copper is 3-4x the price
>>3008640Rubbish lol.Even the bare pipe isn't that much difference. Then the fittings on top it's made smaller. Inserts and shit.Plus who cares it's ugly and lame.
>>3008643>Rubbishbullshit yurophaggitthe neighbor just got their 1970s ranchette repiped from rusted out galvpex was $12k copper was bid at $35k plus sheetrocking separate and plumbers tear the fuck out of walls
just looked, I have Thompson FlowGuard Gold CPVC pipes, house built in '96
>>3008638Copper is for electricians, not turd herders.
>>3008643it takes 4x the time to do copper instead of pex. plumbing labor is 300-400$+ an hour
>>3008678this isn't even to mention that now instead of a 2x2' access at every fixture, we now how to channel the whole fucking wall and anything in our way because copper pipe can't be fed through tight spacesso your post-repipe expenses also go to the skyuponor pex has a 25 year warranty on all damages caused, assuming properly installed
>>3008638> female breasts hormoneThat’s epoxy and bpa. There is different types of plastics.Btw, beer and coke cans are lined with epoxy.Let that sink in.
>>3008680> uponor pex has a 25 year warranty on all damages caused, assuming properly installeduponor(R) here. we are currently busy defending our class action lawsuit because our manufacturing CHOICE (not d*fect) in heat treatment and antioxidant mix is '''causing''' failures 3-10 years after install.if you experience any ''perceived suffered damages'' wait for dispatch of technician we hired to decree your pex installation proper or inproper on our behalf.remember all uponor(R) products come with a forced arbitration clausesignedurs truly uponor(R) corporate
At this point? If it hasn't blown, it probably won't. Are you on well water? Most of what I heard was that polybutylene was attacked by the chlorine in municipal water, specifically in the elbows where the material was stressed from being formed. Without chlorine it should be fine.
>>3008644>bid at>/diy/
>>3008680>25 year warranty25 years is laughable to copper>>3008678>plumbing labor is 300-400$+ an hourthis is a diy board. its literally called /diy/. learn to solder lol.>>3008681i drink glass bottles and get rebate on empties
>>3008752Yeah, copper's better. But for a repipe, get fucked. I doubt you could even find a contractor that would be willing to spend all his time doing it without basically paying him to remodel your entire home. I have all the time and the money in the world and I decided to redo my galvanized pipes with PEX because I didn't want to spend the next year of my life just plumbing. You do know that most municipal lines are lined with or are PVC/HDPE, right? You got plastic in your balls. I don't care if you drink from glass.
>>3008708> uponorMy pex is wirsbo, and it’s coming up to 30 years.I just recently re-used some of it and it expanded and re-shrank down over the fittings just fine.Some of it turned a bit yellow—especially by the hot water tank—but seems to be fine other than that seemingly cosmetic issue.
>>3008766Is this a New England thing? Most homes old enough to need a re-pipe are probably single story. Where are people running your pipes? One of the major reasons basements, crawlspaces, and attics exist is for running all the utilities. When we pulled out the failing galvanized pipes in our place the only drywall we had to remove was around shutoff valves under sinks/behind toilets and behind the top/shower combos. The former had to go anyway to get the original valves out. Only the latter was needed to really get access to things. We ran everything else from the crawlspace. Not fun, but much simpler then channeling through drywall and studs to run pipe horizontally.Even if it is a 'finished basement', you can notch joists on the bottom, as long as it is not in the middle third or too close to the supported ends. The code is very clear on what you can and can't do and it was written for low functioning alcoholics with a third grade education. Our job passed inspection first time.
>>3008633pex is HDPE. it's used for everything food grade.
PP gang hereYou guys suck dick
>>3008769>Even if it is a 'finished basement', you can notch joists on the bottomThat doesn't stop you from having to cut open the ceiling
>>3008828They didn't get rid of polybutylene for health reasons. They got rid of it because it disintegrates when exposed to the chemicals used to disinfect water in municipal water treatment systems. In fact, it is still used in many applications, just not in building supply lines in the USA.>>3008767And OPs polybutylene pipes are the same age as your PEX. You are both fine, right? Just make sure you keep both of them out of sunlight.
>>3008853>And OPs polybutylene pipes are the same age as your PEX. You are both fine, right? Just make sure you keep both of them out of sunlight.and get a fucking carbon filteridk what happened but the city is pushing crazy amounts of chlorine in the lineswell I kinda know the current excuse, but it's wild how much chlorine they put in tap watera 7-10 year linline carbon filter is like $400 from a plumbing supply houseit's totally worth it for everybody
>>3008871Our local water treatment uses filters. They bought them 14 years ago. They are rated for 10 years. They keep using them because the water keeps passing quality tests. The red caps out here really don't want to spend a fucking dime on anything until it breaks. Preventive maintenance is for suckers. Keep rolling until you hurt someone or you gotta spend a lot of money fixing it.How do we know? They did the same thing with the last set of filters. No idea how long they lasted but 3 of the filters failed in the span of a few hours and dumped filter material down the line. It clogged a bunch of valves downstream, which took them a day to bypass and days more to fix.
>>3008876all local water treatment uses filters. then they add chlorineyou read like a faggot
>>3008871> pushing crazy amounts of chlorine in the linesHmm… I wonder why?
>>3008890honestly it doesn't really matter why. everyone needs chlorine filtration on their homeyou absorb it through the skin, it eats gaskets in all plumbing fixtures, and it is gay
>>3008611Very. Just burn the house down and start from scratch on Monday.
>>3008853hdpe is the plastic where the majority of the worlds chemicals are stored in.nothing present in fresh water can attack this stuff
>>3008611Are they actually recalled or are they just on the banned construction list?I imagine if they're recalled, you should be compensated.
>>3008929you can't get a house insured with polyb
>>3008769Nah, other coast. I don't want to dox myself, so I don't want to give too much information, but it's a two-story Victorian built about 120 years ago. Technically three since the attic is huge. The the walls are 2 inches of plaster. The siding is still the original cedar that I would need custom milling to remake so I really don't want to cut that either.Who knows what it was originally piped with, but it still had some actual threaded brass pipe in it. (And there's still some in the walls that I couldn't get out). The drains were are actually fine because they are cast iron with like inch thick walls.
Is there a reason you couldn't use braided flexible pipes for water supply instead of copper or plastic? Like the kind that feed the toilet, but larger diameter?
>>3009149Those are still lined with plastic. The sheath is just for protection.
>>3008611It seems it was recalled because they slowly disintegrate with the crap they put in town water. As long as you are on a well, you're fine. If you're on town water, you're already fucked so what does it matter.
>>3008925>>3008828There's no such thing as food safe plastic.
>>3008643>rubbishShut it, redcoat. This is an American thread.
>>3008766Many municipal mains are 150 year old pitch soaked hollow logs.
>>3009542Really?
>>3009698Usually they replaced them with lead pipes
>>3008611When Qest begins to leak it's usually just a pinhole, so you can fix it when needed if you're comfortable with that.You can get poly to pex couplings at any box store. You'll need a crimping tool though.>>3008621I've used pex for over thirty and never had an issue with it.
>>3008638>Oh it costs a tiny bit moreTiny bit LOL.$5.50 per foot for ¾ inch L copper.40 cents per foot for pex.
>>3009973regardless, the greater cost is labor time
>>3008638>>3008752Everything you did drink over the past two decades has been run through a plastic valve. Your water, your beer, your juice. Yes, even your alcohol.
>>3010084I've done tours of a few places that distill liquor. Not a single one had plastic anything in them. I mean, sure, I didn't tour the Popov facility but the higher end places don't use plastic for anything but waste water.
>>3010075Not that anon but it's over ten times the price, that's biting into the budget easy
>>3009734This statement would be true if it was 1870.
>>3010094>Better quality things cost significantly more than plastic dogshit
>>3010094>>3010106and it would be worth it if it didn't also take 10x the time to install
>>3008611>I've got recalled polybutylene pipes in my 90s home>How fucked am INot too badly fucked, anonJust sharkbite (or generic) them to PEX when they leak (might have 1 leak every few years)
>>3009973man where's the ¾ button on my keyboard? can't even read that shit, just type 3/4 like a normal person, getting all fancy with your alt codes
>>3010295Alt + 0188 thru Alt + 0190 are the codes for ¼ thru ¾.
>>3010298But what are the codes of 0/4 and 4/4?
>>3010295>>3010298on linux you can just hold the compose key while typing 34 and it will print ¾ ;^)
>>3010306>But what are the codes of 0/4 and 4/4?And, 4/0