Looking for thoughts and advice regarding building a tiny home to live in a friends backyardI am looking to upgrade from my 24 foot RV camper trailer. Campers heat and sound insulation suck. So I figure If I build with double or triple pane windows and decent batt insulation and heat with mini split or diesel heater, it will be comfy at colder temps (below freezing )I am thinking simple like 8x12 but considering going 8x20 so the bathroom and shower area and cooking area can be more open .I might do a loft bed but I think I will just make the bed double as the couch I sit and play retro videogames on.I also just need a desk for laptop work and another desk area for my stereo system and laptop that runs that. I will be building on on skids without a plan to move it. I will probably drywall it and only wire for a few outlets and probably wire a few overhead non-LED lights.Plumbing I will just run a water tank, pump and a on demand propane water heater.Probably just a lean to shed roof, possibly a gable roof.I am also wondering the realities of just building a totally flat roof and even decking plywood overtop the flat ceiling joist/raftersAnd then build a roof overtop all that and give it a short wall to sit on so its essentially outdoor covered storage and also obviosuly protects the main structure from rain and snow, but with the open idea, it could nest critters, so maybe I should seal it to that. and have a door for the storage etcAnd yes I have the tools and skills to frame etc, but am a retard with many other aspects so I hope someone can help point me in the right direction on decisions
>>3013394>Tiny Home General>/diy/
>>3013394I have an 8x16 and it's pretty tight with a separate bathroom. I would also do all electric no propane if you have power from the grid. Also how is water getting into your tank? You'll need a well or catchment system if you don't have access to city water. Hauling water is a bitch.
>>3013421> I have an 8x16Can you please provide some details about your materials used? stud spacing and style and insulation type etc? Windows, doors ? gable roof? Do you wish you went a little bigger? I do have electric and will probably get a mini split for heat and AC. Water I will have a fill port to the tank and run a garden hose from the backyard. I might even just be able to run off pressure from the hose most of the time. But in the winter I would just fill the tank when needed (so I dont worry about leaving the hose out and freezing etc,,, or get a heated line and also be sure it doesnt freeze at the houseRight now I am thinking to start with an 8x8 So I have a winter cabin thats better than an RV and then build a 12x12 or 8x20 or 8x16 . then the 8x8 will serve as a storage shed
>>3013446I just used all the regular shit from home depot. Basically built a shed. 2x4, 16 on center, metal roof, pink insulation on the walls and in the ceiling. I did a gambriel style roof, basically looks like a barn for more loft space. Bigger is always better imo, but 16 is enough to have a little galley bathroom in the back. I think it's 4 ft. But with that bathroom and storage etc, I have to move the queen bed out of the way to do stuff during the day. If you had an extra 4 ft you could probably leave the queen bed in place and have enough room for a desk. I guess eventually I will sleep in the loft but that's where I store all my tools and stuff right now.
>>3013447>that's where I store all my tools and stuff right now.Yeah this is why im thinking I should start with the 8x8 for now and then in the Spring when I have more time and a complete plan I will build a bigger one and then use the 8x8 for storage instead of being cluttered etc.I am going mental on deciding what size and styleBarn roofs are cool. What is your wall height? Is the loft tall enough ?
>>3013449Probably a good idea. You can practice all the tedious stuff that you want to look good in the final shed like drywall. I used 9ft studs. The lower level is great but the loft isn't big enough. I think it's about 5 ft in the center and comes down to like 3ft. That's probably why I'm putting off moving the bed up. Plus I don't want to climb down a ladder to piss in the middle of the night. The only thing is running a panel or sub panel to two different sheds is going to be annoying. But again good practice
>>3013394>Plumbing I will just run a water tank, pump and a on demand propane water heater.Fresh water is easy, sewage is hard.Counties buy aerial photo services to nark off any new un-permitted structures.Most neighborhoods will have at least one "Karen".Some City Depts that turn a blind eye to 20 Wetbacks or Jeets in a half-assed "extension" will be instant Nazi-SWAT when a lone American builds something cute and comfy.Wetbacks and Jeets are "needed for the economy", you are a health code violation and destroying property values.Yes, "destroying property values" means DEI banks will dive in from the top rope to "educate" the City council that you are putting everyone's Home Equity at risk.Cops got nothing on City Building Dept when it comes to "its not what we can do, its what we can choose not to do".
>>3013524>sewage is hardYeah I have been looking into running a shit tank that can be pumped out by the portashitter trucks but the second part of your post makes me worried its another thing to set the alarmI am wondering the loopholes on them proving its a "primary residence"I am pretty sure I can always say I live in a real room in the real house and then say the "shed in the back" is finished nicely but it is just a "music studio"This is when I wonder about fences around it and no trespassing signs. Have to figure out the ins and outs of the system My township allows 200 Sq foot accessory buildings to be built with no permits etc>>3013521>Loft problemsYeah It seems like a weird feng shui thing too. To me, building a 20 inch high bed that doubles as couch seems more appealing
