no hair = gays will like you
hairy = women will like you

very simple maths

>>18697669
Gays love body hair. You just haven't a clue.

>>18697675
You got him good

get muscular and tan if youre hairless

>>18697669
not true at all from my experience lol. gay men like hairy more than anybody i've ever met and most gays actually despise feminine gays for playing into the stereotype that gays can't be manly. it's why masc4masc is such a huge thing in the gay community

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>>18697689
Like pottery. Of course gay men like hairy dudes, but it’s only the gay gays, i.e. a fucking minority. Who’s gay from my post’s perspective is the countless closeted fags and bis and cucks and curious “striaght” imbeciles who get their cocks hard when they see a twink, without understanding that what they like is the feminine element of it. Be hairless like a girl —> appeal to this sort of gay. Be hairy hairy —> appeal to 1 gay gay out of 100 males.

All that pottery and at the end of the day you won’t disprove that all women like hairy men. Fucking jokes.

>>18697665
Eh I really REALLY wouldn't stress out about this. A lot of women are super into the hairy look sure but it's not all women or even most women. If you woke up super hairy tomorrow you'd become more attractive to some women sure but also less attractive to other women. While technically there are some things you could do that might work such as minoxidil and shit I really wouldn't recommend it personally. You won't be able to please every woman anyway no matter what. I've encountered a lot of women into the hairy look but also a lot of women who just thought it was gross so as already said you can't please everyone.

tl;dr

>>18697705
if it matters at all i'm not op but he basically just talked about how he's insecure about not being able to grow a beard and not having much body hair. about how women refuse to date him for it and how other men make fun of him for it

>>18697665
I'm not sure if you're gay or bi or if an opinion from another man matters to you but in my opinion the guy on the left looks a million times more attractive than the man on the right. The guy on the right looks too much like a gorilla and I realize some guys may see that as a compliment but I don't. I love a smooth muscular chest.

>>18697665
I'm no therapist but it doesn't sound like your lack of hair is really the problem here. I can understand generally wanting to be hairier the same way a guy might want to be taller or the same way a guy with a huge nose might want a smaller nose but it's not normal or healthy for it to be affecting you this much, especially since it's something almost entirely out of your control.

I won't tell you to seek therapy because that's pretty cliche and often dismissive advice and a lot of people can't even afford it but you should definitely be taking care of yourself better. And I can't help but feel that even if you were hairy there'd be something else about your appearance making you insecure instead.

I thought Asian women hated body hair

>>18697931
If he's feeling this way and made this thread then either he's not Asian or he lives somewhere where Asian men are a very small minority.

>>18697931
They say so but every Asian bitch I've been to spends like hours playing with my chest hair and call me a monkey

>>18697665
Your insecurity is a far bigger turn-off than you being hairless to be honest. Like far far bigger and it's not even close. You'd have far better chances with women if you were hairless but confident rather than hairy but still insecure.

>>18697665
>if people ask me why I shave my body hair (I don't it just doesn't grow)
>"why I want to look like a prepubescent little boy"
>Women have literally left the bed when I took off my shirt and they found out I didn't have chest hair.
It sounds like a lot of context is missing between all of that, probably stuff you missed or misunderstood, but overall it kinda sounds like you're autistic. Not even meant as an insult but I mean you seem to have many traits associated with autism spectrum disorder.
For the first one it just sounds like simple genuine curiosity, not necessarily malicious.
Then for the second one it sounds like banter. People say stupid shit like that to each other all the time, especially in all male friend groups.
And for the last one that's probably not really why they left the bed. It was probably something else and they just used that as an excuse. They're probably still shallow either way but if they were liking you up till that point I highly doubt the lack of chest hair is what made them stop liking you.
All in all I'd say you're taking these things way too seriously. You need to stop taking things so seriously.

>>18697665
You only want hair on the top of your head. Anyone who says anything else is coping.

Hair on the back is nasty.

>>18697665
How old are you? It takes more time than you might realize.
I could barely grow a beard back when I was 24, now at 33 it's looking pretty good.

>>18697701
This. Only full blown megagays are into hairy men. I am heterosexual/biflexible (would fuck a femboy) and unfortunately very hairy myself, not dissimilar from the right image in OP

We must be living in completely different universes. Where I live it's the complete other way around. The desired look is hairless and if you're hairy people find it weird

>>18698137
There is no culture where women don't like some hair.
Literally none.

>>18698139
Well I'm glad you've lived in all cultures then to know "literally none"
And by the way Googling stuff about a culture doesn't equate to knowing everything about them
Even if you ask people from that culture those people are only a few people. Even within a culture there are several different viewpoints

>>18698252
it's not about culture bro it's just that facial hair and body hair is physical proof of masculinity and testosterone. it's something that seperates men from boys and that seperates men from women. the same way that boobs and prominent butts are physical proof of femininity and estrogen as well as fertility. it seperates women from girls and seperates women from men. that's why guys with little body hair and women with flat chests are less desirable on average because guys with little body hair are less masculine and women with flat chests are less feminine. overall it's biological and evolutionary

>>18697665
Huh? Is this a thing people are actually concerned about these days? I can't grow a beard and my body is not very hairy and I've never had any difficulties getting laid. If anything I actually have somewhat more success than a lot of my bearded and hairy friends.

>>18697675
Gays also love twinks

>>18697675
Gay here. I love both! Smooth skin is sexy... but thick caveman hair is also sexy.

Straight guys just convince themselves that gays are attracted to features opposite of their own, so they can feel safe that gays aren't interested in them.

>>18698483
Yeah I don't think his lack of hair is the reason he can't get pussy. Very few women I know would reject a man on that alone. A lot of women do have a preference for hairy men sure but they're not vehemently against hairless men either. It's definitely not a mandatory prerequisite to get pussy. They're probably rejecting him for a different reason and he's wrongfully assuming this is the reason.

>>18698488
>Smooth skin is sexy
as someone who is somewhat insecure about not being hairy though not as insecure as op is about it just reading those four words made me smile a lot. and i'm not gay but i just love the idea of people finding me sexy regardless if i'm attracted to them back or not

so i have perfectly smooth legs and wear relatively short shorts a lot (not super short just slightly above the knee, a 9 inch inseam) would seeing my legs in public turn you on?

>>18698510
Bro in what fucking universe are 9 inch inseams short shorts?! Lmfao. That's like almost touching the knees.

>>18698516
Nta but it depends on the length you're used to wearing. If you're used to regularly wearing shorts that go several inches below the knee then I understand how 9 inch inseams can seem like short shorts.

>>18697665
Okay I'm pretty sure you're just making this up or at least heavily exaggerating. To 99% of the population not being hairy is just NOT a big deal even if they might have a slight preference for hairy. When you say that women have left the bed because you don't have chest hair I believe that ONE woman MIGHT have left the bed and now you feel like a victim and are assuming all women are like this due to insecurity from one bad experience.

>>18698724
Yeah this story of his just doesn't make sense. I've heard of many guys being rejected for being short, for having a small dick, for being fat, for being bald, for being poor, etc but being rejected so many times for not being hairy just sounds like pure fiction.

My legs and asscheeks are basically pure black from hair and I've considered getting it lasered because I'm worried women would think it's gross.

>>18698510
9 inch? Nothing to see in those. Get you some 5-inchers to have me drooling at those sexy thighs.

>>18699075
i'm actually gradually working my way up. my swim trunks are currently 5 inch inseams. my swim trunks used to be 10 inch inseam. i gotta work my way up to make my casual day-to-day chino shorts 5 inch inseams too

as someone who used to wear really long and baggy shorts even my current 9 inch inseams feel quite scandalous but i'm working up to 5 inch inseams because of how much my 5 inch inseam wearing friends boast about it being so comfortable and how any longer length holds you back once you get used to them

even with 9 inch inseams in my head it feels like everyone is staring at my exposed lower thighs so i can't wait to see how 5 inch eventually feels like

>>18699072
Are you just simply worried or have women actually explicitly told you they think it's gross? Is it just in your head or have they told you? Because I know a lot of women who are actually really into that shit. To get confirmation I would ask around the women in your life. Even if it's just female acquaintances at work or whatever. Even female family members because they likely know what other women want. Don't get rid of something that could potentially be a huge advantage for women who are really into it.

>>18699099
>my swim trunks are currently 5 inch inseams. my swim trunks used to be 10 inch inseam.
Nta but I actually prefer longer shorts for day-to-day because of more pocket space and protection from the sun and shit, basically cargo shorts hate me if you want, but for swim trunks I do actually prefer 5 inch inseams as well. It's just so much better for swimming since there's no extra drag caused by long swim trunks in the water as well as giving a much better tan overall. I'd much rather have a mid-thigh length tan line rather than a knee-length tan line.

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>>18697701
Meanwhile I like hairy women. It triggers my caveman brain. What does that say about me?

>>18699160
Funny that she seems pretty hairless except for the armpits. I don't see any arm hair, no hair on her torso/belly, no stray facial hairs, etc.

>>18697665
You kinda sound like a little bitch honestly. There are people who were born severely deformed and people who have lost arms and/or legs in violent tragedies and even people who have blown their entire face off in desperate suicide attempts and here you are complaining that you can't grow very much dead skin.

Either way my advice to you would be suck it up buttercup.

>>18697665
Literally no one even thinks about this

>>18697665
Female preference for body hair varies greatly, kinda like how male preference for female pubic hair. Yeah we don't want women hairy, but you will find about as many bush and clean shaven enthusiasts.

I will say however that most women do not enjoy a hairy back or balls. Hairy backs are just unaesthetic and associated with old men, in the bad way. My ex specifically said it's just not enjoyable to lick/suck hairy balls. She also didn't like getting a face full of long, twisted pubes when deepthroating, she liked them trimmed to a shorter length.

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>>18699407
>muh someone has it worse therefore you can't complain
Very compelling

>>18699166
Women in general tend to have fewer terminal hairs on their body, except for armpit hair, pubes, and leg hair. Their T and DHT levels are lower.

>>18697665
I don't think this is as big a deal as you're making it out to be. I see both really hairy guys in relationships and not so hairy guys in relationships all the time.

>>18697665
Hairiness isn't important. I've never even heard women bring it up. What matters the most is being tall and attractive. A tall and attractive hairless guy will have a lot more success than a short and ugly super hairy guy. Not sure which category you fall into but yeah.

>>18697665
Idk dawg I shave my face I think it looks nice. I guess I choose your burden lol. I don’t have a super hairy body just a stripe that goes the whole way down, idk what my back looks like but it seems pretty much hairless. Just get into swimming and say that’s why if you give that much of a fuck

>>18700096
i'm not op but that actually makes things worse because there are methods like minoxidil to become hairier but you can't exactly make yourself taller if you're a full-grown adult who is already done growing and you can't make yourself more attractive either without some really expensive plastic surgery lol

>>18700101
>Idk dawg I shave my face I think it looks nice.
Not OP but I shave my face because my facial hair is so bad and looks like a bunch of pubes glued on my face lol. All I really get are some shitty sideburns and almost nothing in the middle, just a few random singular strands across my chin, upper lip, cheeks, etc but it doesn't connect to anything. Even when I let it grow out because of laziness of just being at home for a long time or whatever people ask me if I shave the middle and left only the sideburns lol. Honestly I'd rather just not have facial hair at all at this point. I can't grow a good beard yet still have to regularly shave anyway. And it grows back surprisingly quick too. And I highly doubt it's ever gonna get better either because I'm in my 40s and this is the same amount of facial hair I've had since I was like 22.

>>18700265
>Honestly I'd rather just not have facial hair at all at this point
Then you'll look like a full on soi faced tranny. Some facial hair is better than no facial hair.

>>18700288
nta but nahhhh. facial hair is pretty much an all or nothing thing. you can either grow good facial hair or you can't. sometimes even if you can't grow a full beard you can go for a goatee or something but some guys can't even pull off a goatee. i see so many guys in public who borderline come off as homeless because their facial hair looks like shit and yet they refuse to take care of it or even trim it. not to mention if you're already an unhygienic person facial hair can get nasty real fast

>>18700288
Look my dad is the ultra super masculine type, what many people today might mistakenly call "toxic masculinity," believes in stuff like men shouldn't cry, always keep your hands rough and callused from hard work, no wearing colorful clothes, don't do any more hygiene or grooming than the bare minimum, always be ready to fight, etc but even he admits that my facial hair looks like shit and that I should shave it.

>>18697669
Not true at all
Hairy = weirdos like it
That's all
Most people will deal with whatever though I'd you have a good personality

>>18700399
As much as I try not to judge others for things they can't control, yeah, that has been my experience as well. In particular I knew this one gay dude who was REALLY into SUPER hairy dudes (so much back hair that you can't even see skin and super hairy buttholes too) and he was SUPER creepy. Like in public he would watch porn of super hairy dudes on his phone, and look up pics of super hairy guys on Reddit, pics of super hairy overweight guys who looked like they didn't shower in like a month, and he would talk about all the stuff he wanted to do with those men. And he also regularly sent people pics of his full bush as well as of his hairy butthole.

I know it's not fair to generalize but whenever I meet a gay guy who is SUPER into hairy men, that one guy is all I can think of and I wanna puke.

>>18700518
him being into hairy dudes wasn't the problem the problem was that he's just extremely creepy in general. come on porn in public? please tell me he at least shut down the porn when children and families were around

>>18700563
Oh no sorry to disappoint you but it gets worse. He DID watch porn in public when there were children and families around. Even when confronted by it he doubled down saying that it's his right to watch whatever he wants on his phone and if children and families don't like it they don't have to look.

>>18700576
damn. what a bizarre hill for him to die on. defending his "right" to watch child porn in public even when children are around and getting passive-aggressive when confronted about it

>>18700518
>>18700576
People like him are why people perceive gays as disgusting degenerates who have no life outside of sex...and I say that as a gay myself

>>18697669
Your ideas about gay people are amusing to me

>>18697665
Seems like hairy is favored where you live but that doesn't mean you can't make up for it in other areas. Being funny and being confident are two of the most attractive things in a man. Also dress well but not so well to the point that others start to suspect that you're gay or "metrosexual" or whatever. Going to the gym also helps.

>>18699916
Women are just as hairy as men. The only difference is their body hair are thinner, but they're usually still visible. Body hair on humans aren't vestigial organs. They serve as tactile sense organs and the first line of defense against parasites.

>>18699407
Nigger, just because some people have it worse doesn't mean every other problem isn't worth worrying about. There are levels to everything. Why are you on a fashion forum? Why do you care about what your clothes look like? Just be thankful you even have clothes to wear. Millions of people in the world can't even afford to wear a couple of sets of basic clothes.

>>18701491
lame explanation on his part but i do agree that in general, of all things lack of body hair is a pretty retarded thing to worry over. in the 30 something years i've been alive literally no one i've ever met has had a problem with lack of body hair. the only thing that has been brought up as a turn off is if you're literally as hairy as a gorilla as in so hairy no one can even see your skin color (still, older people tend to be more accepting of this than younger people though) but other than that no one has made a big deal over body hair or the lack of it

>>18699160
She is a cringe feminist but her body is indeed hot as fuck.

>>18698267
fucking /thread

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>>18700518
Once again, brainlets. Being 100% gay (from now on: megagay) will certainly make you long for hairy dudes, because you want to get the maximum of masculinity. But being megagay is also rare. If you take 5 “gay” dudes of today, only 1 will be megagay, the rest is just guys who are into femboys and twinks. This is literally the tendency of today, this is what porn and “sexual liberation” trigger among male population. So the first post is correct: a shaved smooth dude will certainly appeal to that quite vast majority of “gays” who actually enjoy the same sex provided it has elements of the opposite sex. The hairy man, on the contrary, will always appear desirable to the one in a hundred men AND to the absolute majority of women.

>>18697665
>I'm fine with my facial features, height, body, and weight
Count yourself lucky then. Just be glad you're not 4'9" or 400 pounds or ugly as hell. I can guarantee that most women would prefer a hairless 5'10"+ guy who is handsome and weighs around the middle to upper 100s pounds or so over a guy who is super hairy but super ugly and 4'9"- and who weighs 400 something pounds.

>>18701672
I don’t care about women’s personal beliefs or moral axioms especially online. I want to bury my face in her armpits tho

>>18697665
Nice bait. You should've posted on twitter instead, that way you could make some money.

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>>18705589
If it makes you feel any better that video in the OP post shows basically the ideal female form as well as the ideal male form and them falling in love with each other and do you notice much hair if any at all on his body? Do you see a single hair on his chest and/or stomach? The video quality makes it relatively hard to tell but at most he only has a very small amount of arm hair and leg hair. He and her look about as hairless as each other actually. If you're hot as hell then hairy or hairless no longer matters.

>>18697669
It’s actually the opposite. The only chucks that like hairy dudes are 300lbs and 45 years old.

>>18697665
If this is your biggest worry then with all due respect get a fucking life

>>18708562
word. i do have a general preference towards hairy men but i would never reject a man for not being hairy either. at most i'd only hold it against him if there are already many other qualities i already don't like about him anyway.
like i could say, more or less in order from most severe to least severe, "i don't like him because he's a manipulative jerk, he treats everyone around him like shit, he's rude to employees, he smells like shit because he almost never showers, his breath smalls like shit because he never brushes his teeth, he's really overweight, his nose is too big, his skin is full of acne, he snores too loud, he farts too much, and oh, one last thing, he barely has any body hair."
if i already don't like him anyway that could be another extra thing added to the list but it's not a thing i would reject someone for at all.

I only really keep the hair on my chest and some on my groin, the rest I keep as minimal as I can, but I don't really obsess over being perfectly gone. Just trimmed down to nearly nothing with electric clippers when it gets thicker. I also keep my asscrack hairless, I noticed that women don't want to go near it when it isn't, and I would have similar reaction if I saw a hairy female asshole.

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>>18706041
This is correct.

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>>18706041
holy shit people are dumb

>>18708610
t. dumbotard

>>18708623
you know it baby

>>18708585
I'm basically the opposite but also the same. I have a preference towards men with little to no body hair but I wouldn't reject a hairy man. If I rejected a man for being hairy it's only an excuse for so many other deeper qualities I already don't like about him to begin with.

>>18697665
Huh? This is a problem some guys have? I'm pretty hairy and from my experience women have not been a fan of it. I could see the excitement on their faces when I shaved my chest smooth and waxed my back smooth and trimmed my legs, arms, pubes, and armpits. Not sure if it's because how young I am and how young women my age are (I'm 20) but women have not liked my hairiness. I also grow some (very patchy) facial hair and shave it off smooth. Can't even pull off stubble.

>>18709363
>Not sure if it's because how young I am and how young women my age are (I'm 20)
that's literally it. on average people in their 20s and younger are generally not very hairy (with the exception of certain ethnicities of course) so naturally that's not what women that age want unless they're really into men that are much older than they are. i assume that op is much, much older than you if women are rejecting him for not being hairy enough. if he's not exaggerating about his experiences then he's probably 40 at the youngest because men by that age are usually really hairy (again with the exception of certain ethnicities) and therefore what women that age want unless they're really into men that are much younger than they are

>>18697665
Not sure if this is what you wanna hear or not but if a man is already attractive enough him being hairy or not won't make the slightest difference in the positive or negative direction.

>>18698486
Only prison gays

>>18697665
idk what the hell you're on about because from my experience hairy is usually something people find gross or make fun of

>>18697665
I do kinda get how you feel bro. Even though I'm a man and was born a man and am proud to be a man I've always low-key gotten gender dysphoria whenever I saw how much hairier my peers were compared to me. Compared to them I felt like a woman. Even though we're both the same sex I felt like a woman for not being hairy or having a beard.

>>18715043
I get this but not with beards or body hair but whenever I see a dude that's way bigger than me or way more muscular than me. I'm not small by any means but whenever I see a dude that's way bigger than me I'm reminded of how he could just easily beat the shit out of me and there'd be nothing I can do about it.

please stop treating this like the 'how to get laid' board

>>18715115
Based but unfortunately A LOT of people do this shit. Not even limited to 4chan.

>>18715115
getting laid requires taking off your clothing, getting potentially covered in bodily fluids, and sweating off any makeup, hair product, or scent you may have. there is nothing that could possibly be less /effay/.

>>18697665
that second guy looks like he's wearing a gorilla suit. asking where to find the most aesthetically pleasing gorilla suit at a tolerable price point when comparing labor and materials? /effay/.

>>18715129
>gorilla suit
idk why but i just thought of the gorilla suit from spongebob lol

>>18706040
but what if i want to be objectified sexually?

In short, you want hair but the right amount in the right places. All women want men to look like Manuel Ferrara. All of them. But much more and it gets gross. Much less and it’s unappealing.

>>18697665
Not sure if my opinion as a straight guy (very slight possibility of being bisexual) matters but to me the guy on the left looks a million times more attractive than the guy on the right. The guy on the right looks kinda gross actually. It looks like they shaved like 5 different people's heads and then just glued the hair from that all over his body.

>>18697665
My friend has the same problem
He got made fun of as a military officer in the gym and such lmfao

>>18697665
It doesn't matter. People will just look for any excuse to make themselves feel superior to others.

Hairy? Call the hairless guys prepubescent. Hairless? Call the hairy guys disgusting primates.

Don't let those small dick/big mouth faggots get under your skin.

>>18697665
Uhhhhh...wanna trade places? Where I am the vast majority of women of all ages find hairy men really gross. As a hairy guy myself I'd kill to live wherever you life. And in return you can live where I live. And then everyone's happy! A perfect happy ever after!

>>18699916
LMFAO say that to my hairy ass you dumb twat and I've been waxing that ass for years
Women shave and wax so often that you genuinely believe they don't grow body hair outside of pubes
Only women i know that dont grow much hair are the east asians and even then, they still have visible body hair when not removed like in the original vidrel.

This isn't a biological thing based on sexual differences, we're mammals too, not half-reptilian

>>18697665
Don't know if it makes you feel any better but in my opinion hairless men are a thousand times hotter than hairy men hands down

>>18717827
yeah same here. when i touch someone i'm dating the main thing i like feeling is their skin and body hair just gets in the way of that. i feel the hair more than the skin that way

>>18697665
Your lack of body hair is not an issue. Whether people like hairless or hairy men is a sort of 50/50 thing where you can't please everyone. It also have somewhat to do with trends that come and go. But your insecurity over it sure hell is an issue.

>>18719451
Based. Insecurity is the number one biggest turn off regardless if you're trying to impress women or trying to impress men. Regardless of what you naturally have you gotta own it. Owning it like a champ is the most attractive thing you can do.

>>18719589
true but much easier said than done because there are certain physical characteristics that are pretty much considered objectively unattractive to the vast majority of people. no one wants a man who is 4'11" for example. very few people want a woman who weighs 500 pounds. almost no one wants a person with naturally super yellow teeth. close to zero people want someone with a really several facial deformity. no one wants a person with really dark skin in one of those countries where light skin is valued and people even purposefully regularly go out of their way to lighten their skin. unibrows are considered almost universally unattractive except for very few places. and so on
body hair or lack of it in specific though is not one of those issues. it's a 50/50 thing like another anon said

>>18719720
Those traits you listed sure are in different levels of severity. From least worst to worst it'd go something like this:
>6th place: Unibrows. Unibrows are literally so easy to get rid of. Just grab some tweezers.
>5th place: Naturally super yellow teeth. There are ways to lighten your teeth even if it's not perfect. Your goal should be light yellow teeth not super white anyway.
>4th place: Dark skin in a racist country that hates dark skin and promotes lightening up skin. Not quite sure where to put this one in terms of ranking. Depends on where you live and exactly HOW racist it is. If you are attractive enough otherwise I imagine you could make up for having dark skin. Otherwise there are ways to lighten up skin even if they're harmful.
>3rd place: A woman who is 500 pounds. It's incredibly unattractive but there are ways to lose that much weight even if really hard. Go watch My 600 Pound Life.
>2nd place: A man who is 4'11". This is where it gets really complicated because there's not really a way to change your height naturally. Just find a woman who is super short, even shorter than you and hope she doesn't mind.
>1st place: A really severe facial deformity. Certain facial deformities are such simply extremely disturbing to look at and almost nobody will be attracted to that. Depending on the deformity they might not even ever be able to live a regular life. Surgery can help to an extent but from what I've seen even after surgery the person will still look hideous just somewhat less so.
I think most of us can agree on that ranking. It's about how ugly it is AND if it can be fixed or not.

>>18697665
...is it just me or does the image of the hairy guy on the right look like a cropped NSFW image? Like the hairless guy on the left is cropped too but you can somewhat see the waistband squeezing his hips. The other guy however just sort of goes straight down.

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>>18721229
My goodness that looks like the worst TV show ever (assuming it's a real TV show)!

women prefer hairless men
look at every post 1980s hollywood heartthrob
look at every male model
look at all the kpop singers
the only women who like hairy men are fujos or 50+ years old

>>18697665
So society preaches body acceptance shit for women and yet it's still socially acceptable to make fun of men for their body hair or lack of it?

>>18719766
whats crazy is my dad was a burn victim from a childhood accident. And still managed to get my mom who is a fingolian smokeshow.

TIL im a full blown megagay for liking the hairiest hairy men despite being a twinky softboi

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>>18697665
Reminder that only women on birth control prefer effeminate males.
>>18721295
Males on hormone tap water write like this

>>18697665
Question...how old are you and your peers exactly? I haven't seen anyone make fun of someone else's body in the way you're describing since I was like...
>My lack of facial and body hair has literally been my single biggest insecurity since I turned like 13.
Well 13. Back when I was in middle school. Middle school was fucking rough but in high school they already stopped making fun of other people's bodies in that way. Kinda of odd that the age it started for you was the same age it ended for me. Your story doesn't sound right. Either your peers are REALLY immature as in borderline mentally retarded or you're a 13 year old who happened to find 4chan in which case get out because you have to be 18 to be on here.

>>18725501
>Well 13. Back when I was in middle school. Middle school was fucking rough but in high school they already stopped making fun of other people's bodies in that way.
nta but oh really? for me high school was the worst time of my life when it came to making fun of people's bodies. in middle school there was some of it but it was a lot worse in high school. for me it basically only got worse and worse from elementary school to middle school to high school in terms of how mean my peers were to each other. 3rd grade was probably the best school year of my life and 11th grade was probably the worst

>>18697665
>Women have literally left the bed when I took off my shirt and they found out I didn't have chest hair.
See when I first read this 44 days ago I thought that this was bullshit but in those 44 days since that actually happened to me. And it wasn't just a random woman either it's a woman I've known for over a year at least and always been very good friends with me and she's actually helped me a lot in my darkest times and we've been dating for 6 months and we've actually cuddled and made out with clothes on before we got in bed we took off our clothes with the lights off and we began to have sex and she was loving it a lot, she was very happy and moaning and explicitly saying how she loves it but then 30 minutes into it she was like "huh where's your chest hair?" in a genuinely shocked and disappointed tone and to be clear she had never seen me without a shirt before this point and hearing her question I just told her "it's there don't worry" and that very second she went to turn on the lights and in a borderline aggressive toddler-like tantrum which was completely out of character for her as she was usually very sweet, caring, and mature started to go like "ew you have no chest hair! why didn't you ever tell me this?! disgusting! you're a man! you're supposed to have chest hair!" and I thought she was joking at first but then she very aggressively and violently pushed me out of her room in a way that kinda hurt actually and didn't even allow me to put my clothes on and then as I was about to leave her house I basically had to beg for her for my clothes that were still in her room so I could drive home and I begged for more than an hour and then she very angrily threw the clothes at my face and she actually forgot my belt and socks, she only threw me my shirt, pants, shoes, and underwear but I was like "good 'nuff" because I was tired of being there. And after that she blocked my phone number and all my social medias and never talked to me again. She liter

>>18726717
ally threw away an over a year long consistent friendship and relationship just because she wanted a guy with chest hair and I didn't have it. And her chest hair preference was never brought up before this either to be clear. After this I'm not sure I ever wanna be in a relationship ever again honestly.

>>18726717
>>18726719
Jesus fucking Christ I get having preferences and all but she sounds straight up mentally ill and I'm not even exaggerating. Her rejecting you for not having chest hair is not even the worst part the worst part is her treating you like you're a cockroach or something and then ghosting you with zero explanation.

>>18726717
the one and only and i mean ONLY occasion that her reaction would be reasonable would be if she found child porn on your computer or phone or whatever. even if you were cheating on her this reaction would still somehow still be too extreme

>>18726729
NTA but yup. I personally have a preference towards women with shaved body hair because there truly is nothing in the universe softer than a female with no body hair. If a man shaves his body hair he still won't be anywhere as soft as a woman. And since my preference is so strong I can't be with a woman who never shaves her body hair. But regardless I wouldn't berate and ghost a woman if I found out she was super hairy when she took off her clothes. I would just sort of say hey this isn't gonna work out but I'd still be friends with her.

>>18726748
How has 4chan fallen so hard that you even believe this fake story.

What happened to this place???

>>18726976
I wish I could say I didn't believe it because it scares me that there's people like that out there but I dunno I've met some VERY psychotic people in my life. Like this one guy I used to know who would lie about everything and I mean literally EVERYTHING. He would even lie about something as inconsequential as what he ate for breakfast or what movie he watched yesterday. And it's not like he had a bad memory or anything he was actually really good at keeping track of his lies and keeping things consistent.

Then there was this woman who would ask people seemingly innocuous questions but then proceed to make all sorts of accusations if you gave her an answer she didn't like like she'd specifically ask you what race you find most attractive and then she'd call you a racist when you responded. Then this guy who would turn everything into a competition and constantly try to one up others and get furious when he lost. Like it was so bad that he'd straight up treat something as small as rock paper scissors or tic-tac-toe as if it were the fucking Olympics, kinda like those kids from PE class who took sports way too seriously but a full grown fucking man. And that's only three people of the many I encountered. So overall not as bad as his example but still pretty bad. So because of my experiences I'd sort of give him a 50/50 maybe benefit of the doubt.

>>18726983
your people actually somewhat believable. now the fake woman that other anon made up is too much of a cartoonishly evil villain. even if in theory she did do what she did in the end no one who "I've known for over a year at least and always been very good friends with me and she's actually helped me a lot in my darkest times and we've been dating for 6 months and we've actually cuddled and made out with clothes on" would pull this shit. they'd do it at the beginning if they were ever to do it at all. that's how you know it's bullshit. and even at the beginning it wouldn't be believable but definitely much more so than after "over a year"

>>18727020
Genuinely expected everyone to pile on this loser and wreck his shit but people believe it. I haven’t used 4chan since 2023 and shit was already bad but holy fuck it’s gotten worse since. Even instagram comments are less clueless and more entertaining now.

what

everyone thinks hairy men = poor ugly indian

>>18727073
I mean it depends on where you live and the circles you hang around. Older people are more likely to be okay with it since people in general (even women, which is why you often see some old ladies with beards) get hairier with age anyway. Similar how to younger people baldness is a massive turn off while older people don't mind nearly as much since at least half of men or so (if not more) end up going bald by a certain age. And also similar to how older people are more laid back about their partner gaining weight since after becoming parents and all it becomes harder to lose weight. Gay men also seem to be more accepting of super hairy men than straight women regardless of the stereotype of the silky smooth feminine gay man (most gay men I've met have been super masculine actually, as in you would have no idea they were gay if they didn't tell you. I've actually met more feminine straight guys than gay).