>>18724503
Some don't wear anything.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1lm882c/live_laugh_lacerate/

>>18724503
My spermatozoa.

>>18724503
underwear sometimes, my wife usually wears nothing under hers.

This image is so cope. She looks anxious shy unsure self conscious when in reality if she knows she a bad enough bitch to strut around in that fit she would eat yiur heart and soul and shit all over you

>>18724503
Depends on the girl and her preference, the length of the skirt, and the weather. In general wearing just underwear is the default/most common but wearing safety shorts is not rare at all either. Generally speaking though the longer the skirt the higher the chance of just underwear and the shorter the skirt the higher the chance of safety shorts. And then taking weather into account, cold weather most likely to wear safety shorts to keep you warm but hot weather most likely to wear just underwear to keep you cool. Then commando is the least common of the three options but not completely unheard of either. Predictably women are more likely to go commando under long skirts. Usually only literal whores go commando under short skirts. Most women don't wanna go commando in general though because a lot of them get vaginal discharge and underwear helps as a barrier with that.

>>18724503
My wife wears pretty short skirts and dresses (usually between slightly above the knee to mid-thigh length) and just underwear under them and I'm not complaining at all because I'm straight and it's hot and my wife is hot and has amazing legs and an amazing ass but I wonder why she doesn't just wear shorts underneath because when she does a lot of things in public (such as reaching for something high in the top shelf of the grocery store or something or bending down to put groceries in the car trunk) she makes me hold down her skirt so people don't see her underwear. Kinda seems like unnecessary trouble to not wear shorts at that point. What if I wasn't there to hold down her skirt?

>>18724529
good answer but you forgot one more thing. age. children are more likely to wear shorts underneath because they're always running around crazy and going on the monkey bars and shit. teenage girls are more likely to wear shorts underneath though somewhat less so than children because they don't wanna risk creepy and perverted teenage boys at school looking up their skirts. adult women though are more likely to wear just underwear because they're no longer children and they're no longer teenage girls getting creeped on by teenage boys at school

>>18724541
>but I wonder why she doesn't just wear shorts underneath
from what you described it sounds like your wife is trying to tease you. by making you feel in control on whether she's exposed or not. if you let her skirt go for one second she'd be exposed. she's perhaps trying to give you blue balls so that when you get home you'll want to fuck her really hard...lucky son of a bitch

>>18724529
>Then commando is the least common of the three options but not completely unheard of either.
then you can do a sneaky shart in the mart

>>18724562
>teenage girls are more likely to wear shorts underneath though somewhat less so than children because they don't wanna risk creepy and perverted teenage boys at school looking up their skirts.
From my experience or at least when I used to be a teenager myself not sure if things have changed since or not but teenage girls do NOT wear shorts underneath their skirts. More than half of them were horny as fuck and loved to tease the boys or at least the attractive boys. I definitely saw flashed panties quite a lot back in high school or heck even middle school though fortunately less so.

>>18724503
I wear a gaff.

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>>18724595
?? is that why it's called "hooking up"?

>>18724529
>Usually only literal whores go commando under short skirts
fuck you i dated a girl in highschool who did this, i have better taste than to date "literal whores".

>>18724634
Imagine bragging about high school girlfriends AND bragging about having good taste to random people online LOL. You really are just a useless creep

>>18724634
i had a past girlfriend who just wore thongs under short skirts. she said she didn't mind if someone saw her ass cheeks if the wind blew up her skirt or whatever especially since she already wears thong bikinis at the beach anyway. i jokingly suggested she go commando and she said absolutely not because she doesn't mind people seeing her ass cheeks but doesn't want people seeing her actual vulva or asshole plus vaginal discharge. sounded fair to me. she usually kept her upper body pretty covered up but not her lower body

>>18724714
I dated a girl who was just like that
>she usually kept her upper body pretty covered up but not her lower body
Except she showed her upper body too so she dressed revealing all around. She showed arms, back, midriff, and cleavage. She technically didn't show a lot of cleavage. The cleavage was pretty tame by default but as she moved around and bent over and shit the top rode down showing more of her cleavage and sometimes even her bra and she rarely (so rarely actually that I was caught off guard when she did) bothered to fix it. Not sure if she didn't notice or just didn't care.
Besides her showing a lot of skin though she was actually really shy and disinterested in sex. She actually had pretty severe social anxiety and I had to comfort her in social situations. She rarely said or did anything sexual at all and I had to be the one to initiate and she was always very gentle and patient in bed.
In the end though we broke up not because of any of that but because we didn't have as much in common as we originally thought. Our hobbies and interests were just a bit too different and we couldn't enjoy them together. I still kept in contact though. It's not like we had a fight or anything. She really is a sweet girl. We just kind of got bored of each other. We work better as friends than lovers. Though I'll be honest because of how hot she is and the way she dresses I do sort of have to beat one off before hanging out with her. She's in a relationship now but I'm still single. Otherwise I'll have a constant boner.

>>18724503
bicycle shorts if im alone nothing if im with bf

>>18724541
she's trying to get you to fuck her more and youre being autistic

>>18724762
If he's this autistic with his own wife who he probably lives with then there truly is no hope for him lol

>>18724762
>>18724769
To be fair women in general can be REALLY hard to read even if you know them really well. I've never had a girlfriend or wife before but my mom and my sisters were always incredibly hard to read.

>>18724529
>comically loud droplet.wav
>shoot quick glance at skirted foid
>looks down in shame

>>18724789
...I don't get it

>>18724739
Is this some sort of Murakami fanfic?

>>18724959
Just because your life is boring doesn't mean other people's stories are fake

>>18724503
I unfortunately had to go ask my mom because I literally have no other women in my life besides her and it was a pretty awkward question but she said "just panties." Whether my mom represents most women or not I don't know.

>>18725636
oh shit that IS an awkward question to ask your mom. my mom is sort of the stereotypical strict proper old lady kinda comparable to a strict asian mom but white and pretty religious and if i asked her a question like this she'd probably slap me across the face so hard i'd fall on the ground. i remember when i was like 10 and some of the girls in my class were growing breasts for the first time i asked my mom what are those round things on their chest that some of the girls in my class are growing and she just slapped me across the face so hard i fell on the ground telling me that that's a very inappropriate question to ask your mother and that if i really wanted to know pick up a biology book at the library. if you asked your mom that question and she actually answered she must be A LOT more chill than my mom

>>18724512
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>>18724503
FDS

>>18724503
I'm a trans woman (4chan anons come at me with the ywnbaw shit if you want I'm prepared) and I asked my cis women friends and was kinda shocked to hear they only wear underwear underneath, even a friend in the group who is known for being really shy. And I asked them even in short flowy skirts and they said yes even in short flowy skirts. And for them it's normal but for me it's like I don't know...it's like wandering into the public with only a shirt on and nothing else. Lol. I wear shorts underneath and I don't imagine doing it any other way.

>>18726579
I mean keep in mind your friends have probably been wearing skirts since they were like 3, if not even sooner so they don't even think about it and don't consider it something to be embarrassed by. To them it's as normal as putting on shoes or brushing your teeth. They don't even think about it. If you ever wanted to get used to skirts without the shorts then it would take a lot of getting used to but you could do it. If it'd make you feel any better you can wear the dress when you know your friends are gonna wear dresses too so you don't feel alone dressed that way.

>>18724528
>if she knows she a bad enough bitch to strut around in that fit
You are thinking like a man. A man thinks "I will only wear clothes I am comfortable wearing in public." Straightforward enough. Women aren't not like that though. Lots of women feel pressured to dress in clothes they're not actually comfortable wearing, and they readily give in to the pressure. They are very silly like that.

>>18724769
shes probably into it as a weird degrading "my husband hates me" kink tbdesu

>>18724788
okay anon for future notice if your wife likes flashing/almost flashing you in public she wants you to rail her

>>18726869
>okay anon for future notice if your wife likes flashing/almost flashing you in public she wants you to rail her
I mean is it really "flashing" if she's wearing underwear? Isn't it the same as a bikini bottom? Heck some women these days are wearing thong bikini bottoms. And I personally wouldn't mind if anyone saw me in my boxer briefs in public. They cover the same amount of skin as shorter swim trunks, no? Even if it were briefs I wouldn't mind because I have worn speedos in public before though not super often.

>>18726894
youre so autistic

the difference is one is meant to be seen and the other isnt, theres no actual difference in visual, but its an act of social intimacy, yes its flashing

>>18726894
things get really funny when some of them wear thong bikinis out in public and regularly wear full coverage underwear (including shorts underwear) and yet panic about people seeing their full coverage underwear that doesn't show any butt cheek but are completely casual about their ass cheeks completely being out in thong bikinis

>>18726579
Can I join this cis women group of friends of yours? And not because I totally don't wanna sniff their stinky panties at the end of the day since there's no barrier between the underwear and the dress making things even more stinky...

>>18726945
first of all how do you know their panties are stinky? and second
>since there's no barrier between the underwear and the dress making things even more stinky...
this doesn't even make sense. if anything their panties would actually stink LESS if they wore just panties because usually with more layers make you sweat more and so wearing shorts underneath would be what makes their panties more stinky

>>18726951
>first of all how do you know their panties are stinky?
All vaginas are stinky. Vaginas are much more complex than penises. Much more weird too. They do a lot of funny things. They bleed, there's vaginal discharge, they get wet, they squirt, etc. And all of that makes vaginas super stinky compared to non-smelly penises who just simply do 2 things: piss and cum. Not that I mind in the slightest...
>because usually with more layers make you sweat more and so wearing shorts underneath would be what makes their panties more stinky
You don't understand how it works. With just panties underneath their panties are in direct contact with the skirt making things stinky. Shorts would prevent the panties making direct contact with the skirt, making things much less stinky, and thus disappointing for me...

>>18726960
Vaginas shouldn't smell bad as long as she has good hygiene and doesn't have any medical issues. And penises can definitely smell really bad too if the guy in question has terrible hygiene. And I'm not even gonna try to argue with your second point about skirts and underwear because this guy >>18726951 already gave you the perfect explanation and you completely missed the point.

>>18724503
I know this is probably another useless spam post but have you ever though about actually ASKING a woman herself? I swear it's like half of women related questions on 4chan could be easily answered by just simply asking for the opinion from an actual woman.

>>18727443
i mean to be fair if you don't have a significant other how are you even supposed to ask women this type of question without freaking them out? lol. even if you have a lot of female friends they could find it creepy and think you're hitting on them and potentially cut you out of their life. and don't even think about asking any of your female family members because that's at least 10x worse. so i don't see how you can realistically ask this type of question. and even if you did that doesn't mean they'll answer it if they thought the question was really that creepy

>>18724512
Disgusting

>>18724562
>creepy and perverted teenage boys
Yeah, being male is bad, those perverted creepy teenage boys !

>>18727451
If you have actual female friends you'll find out sooner or later without even having to ask, at some point they'll make fun of a girl in a TV show for wearing "granny panties" or complain about how it's hard to find anything but thongs these days or whatever. I found out one friend didn't wear any at all when somebody else brought the subject up, I said "that's hot," and she got all defensive and said "some girls do it for comfort, not because it's hot to men."

>>18727508
No fucking way you're unironically defending upskirt shots and being sarcastic about it as if it's a perfectly normal thing and people are overreacting for being rightfully so offended and shocked by it. Like look it's perfectly normal for a man to quickly glance at an attractive woman's breasts or ass as she walks by you but going out of your way to look up a woman's skirt is literal illegal and considered sexual harassment. For context that's the equivalent of if a big gay man way bigger than you kept starting up the open leg holes of your shorts hoping he can see your cock or underwear. You can watch porn all day if you want to and male sexuality is nothing to be ashamed of but your rights end when you start to make people feel unsafe or uncomfortable.

>>18727517
calm down lol he's just a common internet troll

>>18727517
Seek help

>>18727531
I wouldn't say I'm common and I just expressed my opinion with a little bit of sarcasm as the other person noticed

>>18727534
>Seek help
You're the one trying to normalize sexual harassment bro.
>I wouldn't say I'm common and I just expressed my opinion with a little bit of sarcasm as the other person noticed
Oh an edgy guy who says fucked up retarded shit to shock people? You are soooooo fucking unique!

>>18727517
Not him, but sure, going out of your way is one thing, but there are also a lot of situations where you kind of have to go out of your way NOT to look up a girl's skirt, especially in school. I remember having lecture hall-style classrooms at a school that had uniforms with knee-length skirts for the girls and if you had to go up front and address the class for some assignment you'd be seeing right up the skirt of any girl who didn't remember to keep her knees together. I've had plenty of situations in adult life where it was tough too, friends or even random girls I just met having conversations with me while even if I look them right in the eyes I can see up their skirt in my peripheral vision or whatever, particularly when dealing with girls who are dressed up for something and not used to wearing short skirts/dresses in their regular lives. (Cosplay, alt clubs, etc.)

>>18727538
>but there are also a lot of situations where you kind of have to go out of your way NOT to look up a girl's skirt, especially in school
my school had stairs and god i know that feeling. no girl really wore skirts or dresses or even shorts but a lot of them did wear relatively tight pants and climbing the stairs behind them was SO fucking awkward. my face was like at eye level with their asses. sometimes i felt my nose was borderline up their ass. i just kept thinking to myself "hurry the fuck up or else everyone will think i'm a creep!" and it's now like i could just change positions because the stairs were super crowded in every direction. lots of people behind me who kept pushing me to climb faster. one time when climbing the stairs a girl actually farted in my face. and it was my crush actually. to this day not sure if that was a good thing or a bad thing but i thought that it was ironic that out of the 3000 something girls (6000 students total) in my school it was my crush of all people though to be fair we did have our next class together so i guess it's not too absurd

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>>18727537
Can I ask what exactly do you get from attacking random people on internet like that? You sound like someone that spends a lot of time here, anyway I simply expressed my view, my opinion was, attacking males (teenage even, which makes it even more ridiculous) for their natural behaviour is (in my opinion) stupid

When I was around 13-14 , boys frequently slapped girls in my class on their butt during breaks. Seems girls enjoyed. that's my take on it, but keep your view

- respectfully yours
Anon

>>18727544
>Seems girls enjoyed.
nta but that's the most important part. some girls enjoy being treated like whores sure. when they stop enjoying it though is when the problem begins

>>18727542
>one time when climbing the stairs a girl actually farted in my face. and it was my crush actually. to this day not sure if that was a good thing or a bad thing
Someone farting on your face is never a good thing unless you have a fart fetish. I don't care if she's the most gorgeous woman who ever lived if she farts on my face she's getting smacked. But in your situation I would just laugh at the irony. The fart in the face is not a good thing but the irony of it being my crush of all people is pretty hilarious.

>>18727544
>When I was around 13-14 , boys frequently slapped girls in my class on their butt during breaks. Seems girls enjoyed.
In my schools even female teachers partook in this sort of thing. I don't know what the specific dress code for teachers was but they often wore skirts or dresses that were slightly above the knee but rode up A LOT when seated. I'm talking they rode up to mid to upper thigh to the point that they looked almost naked. And a lot of them seemed to know what they were doing and enjoyed it. They could've just pulled the skirt/dress down but they didn't. And coincidentally or not whenever the principal came to do checks on the class every 2 weeks or so they suddenly pulled down their skirts/dresses to the proper length slightly above the knee. And then all the boys and even a few girls kept looking at their thighs looking for a panty shot. They often just teased and provoked us giving us constant blue balls but there were very few instances in which they did let us finally see their panties and I remember which teachers wore what color panties to this day.

8th grade 1st period math teacher Mrs. Stevenson: Black panties.
12th grade 7th period chorus teacher Ms. White: Gray panties.
5th grade teacher Mrs. Young: Blue panties.
10th grade 3rd period math teacher Ms. Johnson: Black thong.
3rd grade teacher Mrs. Rose: White boyshorts.

And that's not even the beginning of it.

That other anon is so retarded. He has no idea girls/women actually like it.

>>18727562
>That other anon is so retarded.
I'm the anon you're referring to and holy shit you're somehow even worse than him. I almost feel bad for having insulted him now...well not really but you're still so much worse than him. You seem to have an excellent memory but using it to remember what color panties your teachers wore is a huge waste of it as well as extremely creepy. Not to mention the teachers who did that were most likely all pedophiles. I mean why else would full grown women wanna provoke horny kids and teens?

>>18727569
Hey, I'm that other anon, just wanted to let you know that when I said 'seek help' that also was sort of attacking you, now that I look at it in retrospect, I'm just some tourist on /fa/ pay and I will be on my way out of here

>>18727569
Pay no attention to me*
Somehow my text got fucked up

>>18727562
it's great that you remember that about your teachers but here's the key question...WERE THEY HOT?

>>18726579
trad-tranny

>>18727593
Honestly it was sort of a mix. None of them were straight up ugly and a few were super hot and the others were just sort of in the middle between average and kinda hot. Some of them despite not being that attractive made up for it with nice thighs and a friendly attitude. Of the specific five I mentioned though Mrs. Stevenson was the hottest (super hot actually), then Mrs. Young (also super hot), then Ms. Johnson (kinda hot), then Ms. White (average), and lastly Mrs. Rose (average). I loved all five overall. Mrs. Stevenson had the best face and body, Mrs. Young also had a very nice face and body, Ms. Johnson actually had a pretty ugly face but her body more than made up for it, Ms. White wasn't that hot but her thighs were to die for, and Mrs. Rose also wasn't that hot but she was very friendly with a really nice voice and her skin was extremely soft I found out when giving her a handshake one time. All great ladies.

>>18727604
interesting. what did they actually look like? and by that i mean stuff like skin color, hair, eyes, body type, facial features, boob size, butt size, etc.

>>18727604
>>18727613
I think both of y'all need to calm the fuck down lmfao

skirts are just fetishwear atp

>>18728574
So my grandma back in 1930 when wear long formal skirt was fetishwear?

>>18728585
I don't think he's referring to those types of skirts. Back then skirts were literally the only option and women couldn't even wear pants. These days pants (or shorts when it's hot out) are the default for women and skirts and dresses are really only worn to very specific occasions such as weddings or to certain workplaces and the such. So these days there's no real reason to wear skirts or dresses outside of that. Especially if they're short. Short skirts and dresses and purely a fetish invention because you don't wear short ones to weddings or workplaces anyway.

>>18728603
>Especially if they're short. Short skirts and dresses and purely a fetish invention because you don't wear short ones to weddings or workplaces anyway.
I don't agree with skirts in general being fetishwear but oh yeah the short ones for sure are. It's sort of like here! Have a look at my panties when I uncross my knees! Knee length or longer skirts have enough fabric to block any view from your panties even with knees uncrossed meanwhile short ones don't.

>>18728619
>Have a look at my panties when I uncross my knees! Knee length or longer skirts have enough fabric to block any view from your panties even with knees uncrossed meanwhile short ones don't.
that's actually why i don't wear shorts that go above the knees. one time i heard a gay coworker talking to another gay coworker about how he likes when men wear loose shorts that go above their knees because then he can look up the leg holes and find out what type of underwear the guy is wearing or if he's commando or "you just never know it's so exciting." before that day i used to wear 9 inch inseam shorts that ended slightly above my knees. after that i switched to 15 inch inseams that end mid calf. don't wanna take any chances. wanna keep 'em long to prevent any upshorts shots for faggots

>>18728643
To be fair they can only really do that if your shorts are really loose and you spread your legs apart really far. If they fit normally and you sit normally then they shouldn't be able to see up your shorts. You can wear shorts with a 2 inch inseam and they still wouldn't be able to see up your shorts in this case.

>>18727544
based family guy. i don't give a shit what anyone says it's fucking hilarious. it's dumb as hell sure but hilarious

>>18728669
Depends, girls with stick legs its very easy to see up their shorts.

>>18724505
god why are women so ugly?

>>18728691
it's funnier than 99% of cartoons people just hate on it because it's trendy to do so

>>18729685
NTA but EXACTLY!! There's a reason Family Guy has been going on for 24 seasons and is still going. 24 seasons for a cartoon (or heck any show in general be it animated or live action) is insane, especially considering most shows usually don't make it past season 5 (if even) and a lot of them only have one or two seasons total as well. Family Guy wouldn't have made it this far if it was a horrible show.

>>18729690
that's not really a mark of quality if your humor is surface level normie shit with gratutitous references to things your audience grew up with, you can coast for decades like this, just like the simpsons, idk how that's still airing

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>>18727538
>>18727542

>>18724541
may I borrow your wife anon?
I just want to... huh... check something

>>18724503
Im not a tranny but I wish I was a girl just so I could wear cuter clothes. It's so unfair that there's so much choice for fashion for women and nothing for men.

>>18731406
Well technically you CAN wear women's clothes but unless you have a naturally feminine body type (which very few men do especially after the age of like 25) women's clothes will look ridiculous on you. Especially if you wear clothes like certain dresses designed for showing cleavage or hugging curves which almost no men have.

>>18731406
just dress like a french aristocrat from the 17th and 18th centuries

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>>18731408
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Male_Renunciation

>>18731407
Well yeah that's what I mean. It's kinda unfair that women can just wear shapewear and tight leggings and croptops, dresses etc to also increase their attractiveness by a lot with no effort. Men can't do that.

>>18731411
shapewear is a crime against nature, it would be more fair to just let women go naked to the gym

>>18724503
They have nothing under their skirt. Alternatively, they have EVERYTHING under their skirt. Pick your poison.

>>18731579
I choose everything because I don't wanna have to deal with women's vaginal discharge on public seats.

>>18731579
pussy is everything. pussy is nothing. deep.

>>18731411
It's not to the same extent but I've experienced a noticeable effect when wearing suits or cowboy shit, depending on the venue. I just recently had a decent-looking girl throwing herself at me when I was out drinking in a cowboy hat but I was way too drunk to take advantage by that point.

>>18724503
panties

>>18732757
I fucking HATE the word panties. It's so weird and cringy and disgusting. Similar to the words moist and crotch. I'd say panties is the worst one then crotch second and then moist third. All horrible words. Never say them again. I will never respect anyone who says those words. Just say women's underwear for fuck's sake.

>>18732764
God are you one of those really annoying women from Reddit? Like from r/AskWomen or r/TwoXChromosomes or some shit "DAE find the word panties extremely uncomfortable?! DAE find it really annoying when men hold doors open for you?! DAE hate it when men look in your direction?!" And then the comments will all be like "OMG me too!"

>>18732764
bro got his minge in a twist

>>18732764
pants, knickers, pantsu

>>18732775
No need to project your mommy issues on 4chan. It's obvious that a guy wrote that comment

>>18724503
This is exactly why I'm always nervous about climbing up stairs behind women in skirts or dresses. I never know what I'm going to get: panties, safety shorts, commando, or something else.

>>18734452
>or something else.

>>18734455
I mean fashion and the universe is complex my nigga. They could be inventing new articles of clothing to wear under skirts all the time. Like for example what about crotchless panties for a panties plus commando combo?

>>18734465
could be a cock

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>>18734526
Damn nigga I did not think of that. I guess my mind just be too straight to be thinkin of that gay shit.

>>18732965
Nice try but he got you good.

>>18724503
This is going to be a pathetic reference but back when I was like 4 and I saw my mom getting dressed she just wore thongs under her skirts. My memory from that age is kinda bad but for some reason this is one of the few things I vividly remember and I hate it. The things I most remember from that age are when a dog bit my finger really hard and it hurt and bleed and I cried, when my grandma fed me so much food that I literally began throwing up all over the place as well as having diarrhea, when I ate some really expensive chocolate and it was so good but my parents never bought it again because it was way too expensive, and that's literally all I remember...plus my mom wearing thongs under her skirts. All I remember.

>>18734771
>back when I was like 4 and I saw my mom getting dressed she just wore thongs under her skirts.
This is so fucking specific but holy fucking shit same here. I think my mom unintentionally made me develop certain fetishes because I go crazy for a big booty tan skinned Latina in a thong and...my mom was basically exactly that.
Parents in general really need to be more mindful of what they wear around their kids. If they're constantly seeing you in minimal to no clothing during their important developmental years then it's not surprising they'd develop a fetish for this shit.

>>18734781
>I think my mom unintentionally made me develop certain fetishes because I go crazy for a big booty tan skinned Latina in a thong and...my mom was basically exactly that.
Not that anon, but it's funny, it seems like the majority of men have that happen but I'm the exact opposite, my mom is a tall busty Italian with light wavy hair and I'm into petite pale slender girls with straight dark hair.

>>18734793
>my mom is a tall busty Italian with light wavy hair
fuck you literally just described my perfect woman. if i saw your mom my dick would 100% be as hard as diamonds

>>18734771
>>18734781
>Parents in general really need to be more mindful of what they wear around their kids. If they're constantly seeing you in minimal to no clothing during their important developmental years then it's not surprising they'd develop a fetish for this shit.
that's just a you guys problem because up till a certain age almost everyone takes baths/showers with their parents and they don't end up developing fetishes over it

>>18734806
there's somehow something more fucked up about wearing a thong than about just being naked, i can't explain it but it is what it is

>>18734867
not really. thongs are just simply a common style of women's underwear that's comfortable for many women and for a lot of women it's the only style they own. a lot of women hate full(er) back underwear because they constantly create wedgies but since a thong is designed that way by default there's no need to constantly pick out wedgies. most girls/women begin wearing thongs as early as middle school, some even as early as late elementary school

>>18735010
a lot of information about thongs that is irrelevant to my point that still stands

>>18734803
She's almost 80 so you probably wouldn't now lol

>>18735100
you're probably right but depends. most 80 year old women aren't attractive at all, not even close but i feel like every 1 in like a thousand 80 year old women which is really rare but has happened by the way...but either way that 1 in a thousand 80 year old woman who is VERY attractive, more attractive than most younger women and who when compared to younger pictures of themselves actually look better now than when they were young. like this grandma of one of my female friends one time who i couldn't believe how gorgeous she was and she looked more or less her age too with the wrinkles and all but her actual facial features and curvy body were still super attractive. whenever she was around i literally had to pull down my shirt and keep my legs together to make my boner less obvious. she somehow managed to look more attractive than her daughter (my friend's mom) and granddaughter (my friend) and her daughter and granddaughter were already absolutely gorgeous too so it was just insane

>>18735098
it's relevant because thongs are just normal. they're completely ubiquitous and basically the female equivalent of boxer briefs. again if you have a problem with it it's a you problem. thongs show the butt cheeks. so what? it's not like they're wearing crotchless or assless panties in front of their kids. thongs cover all the important parts, genitals and buttholes. butt cheeks are literally just fat no different from thighs or from tits

>>18735299
True. Now that I think about it every woman I've ever dated has exclusively worn thongs. They wore thongs and made fun of granny panties or "diaper panties" as some of them called it. They told me that if a woman in their friend group wore full back underwear they'd definitely make fun of it. Not in a mean way and not to random women but as banter with women in their friend group. Similar to how men usually wear boxer-briefs or boxers and make fun of briefs I guess. Or how guys make fun of speedos.

>>18735337
I've sadly had the opposite experience. Every girl I get with wears basic as fuck panties and my longest ex wouldn't even wear nice ones, she'd buy them or I'd buy them for her and then she'd just leave them in a drawer forever saying "they're too nice, I don't want to ruin them" and continuing to wear cheap basic Target ones instead. (And not even plain white for the anime girl appeal or anything, ugly floral prints and shit.)

>>18735448
Really huh. Wow. It's crazy how different our experiences are. Maybe age has something to do with it? I'm actually really young (22) and women my age are basically at the prime of their lives when they're the most sexy and horny. From what you've described perhaps you're older and the woman you've dated were older. From my observations it does sort of seem that when women hit 30 they suddenly stop trying to be sexy. If sexy underwear is really important and you're older and dating older women then go for women in their 20s if you aren't already.

>>18735451
nta but yes i am indeed older than you and in regards to age i've actually kinda observed the opposite. women between the ages of like 30 and 50 putting more effort to appear sexy meanwhile women in their 20s don't put in any effort at all. women in their 20s seem to be putting a lot of effort into looking as unattractive as possible to the other sex actually. from skinny jeans to pants that look like parachutes from 2 inch inseam shorts to 15 inch inseam shorts from cleavage to super high turtlenecks etc. and when they wear crop tops there's no midriff or belly button showing at all because their pants shorts or skirts are so fucking high waisted that they leave zero skin showing

>>18735462
Some women my age do dress like that true but even then it's more about what they have UNDERNEATH those ugly baggy clothes when you get somewhere private with them. Sometimes they're wearing a really sexy bra and thong. Other times just actual lingerie. Other times a bikini. Other times nothing at all as in braless and commando. You never know what you're gonna get.

>>18735451
When I got with the ex I mentioned, I was 22 and she was 23. Maybe it's generational rather than age, millennial women went hard into the feminist "not dressing for the male gaze" etc. etc. shit.

On the flipside though, I had a close friend who was also a millennial but a little younger than me who hated wearing anything more than tiny g-strings, but she was a very unique girl in a lot of ways.

>>18735474
Fuck man, don't put that in my head. I already deal with a few young zoomettes (college age) that are a bit flirty with me and I'm fighting hard not to get involved with a girl who could be my daughter as it is.

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>>18735490
>I already deal with a few young zoomettes (college age) that are a bit flirty with me
lucky. son. of. a. bitch. i'm old too but my rule is as long as she's 18+ i'm going all in face-first. problem is i'm ugly as fuck. i'm not too far off from picrel and no zoomette wants to date a guy who looks like picrel

>>18735299
>>18735337
>>18735448
i'm just talking about the intrinsic visual effect of a thong on a kid is more strongly sexually charged than nakedness, whether thongs are "normal" or "comfortable" are different categories of analysis that have zero effect on my original point

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>>18735502
i'm one of those kids who saw my mom in a thong semiregularly and didn't develop any fetishes over it and at the time my reaction to my mom in a thong was literally just "HA-HA BOOTY CHEEKS" because i just thought butts in general were hilarious, even including my own butt. picrel because i pointed at my mom's butt and laughed with the pause between the ha-ha just like nelson from the simpsons does which was kinda funny considering i hadn't even watched the simpsons at the time. either way my mom in a thong got a good laugh out of me as a good and everything ended there. she only wore a thong in front of me till i was like 5 max anyway

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>>18735496
It never even occurred to me until somebody pointed it out just this weekend when I was wearing a cowboy hat for the 4th of July, but I look a lot like Hank Jr. did in his 30s.

I would absolutely ravage one of those zoomettes in particular, but I know she's got a BF and I really don't want to be wrong or just fuck it up and make a total fool of myself and then become known as the old guy who creeped on a girl half his age.

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>>18735512
>and then become known as the old guy who creeped on a girl half his age.
man you'd get off easy. i'd be known as the killer clown who raped and tortured a girl half his age. from my naturally uneasy and creepy appearance alone people already assume i'm a psychopath who does weird shit. me just standing in the corner in a party minding my own business already makes some people uncomfortable

>>18735513
Just be thankful you're not a kid in school these days. You'd 100% be called a school shooter and someone who makes bomb threats towards the school.

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joke or style?

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>>18724503
Nothing if they don't want a yeast infection the vagina needs to air out wearing tight clothing leads to mold and yeast.

>>18735513
Eh, yes and no. Sometimes seeming like you have your shit together can actually work against you since people automatically have higher standards and expectations and will freak out if you break them, even if it's in a way that's much less severe than stuff they'd tolerate from somebody they already expect to be a mess in general.

>>18735496
>>18735513
If you really look like the guy in the picrel then you should get a job at Halloween Horror Nights...I'm not joking and I'm not trying to be mean. Just think about it, it'd be super easy! You'd be effortlessly scary without even having to wear makeup! Like imagine you with that face in the dark and then BAM you just jump out right in front of the theme park customers and scare the shit out of them. I'm jealous of you actually. And so will your fellow coworkers. They have to wear uncomfortable makeup and costumes and shit to be scary while you don't even have to try. Just be yourself and others will be scared.

>>18735903
...um...uh...i've read your reply like literally 20 times in a row and i still can't figure out whether it's supposed to be an insult or a compliment. not sure if i should feel happy or just offended

>>18735756
that's exactly why i could never get into the yoga pants, leggings, and skinny jeans type of shit. like jesus fucking christ man i've seen so many cameltoes when women wear those things and i've seen a lot of them actually just casually picking wedgies out of their vaginas not even trying to be discreet about it. no way that shit is healthy for the vagina

>>18734771
>>18734781
>>18735504
Boy are you guys really making me glad that my mom has always been a very modest religious woman. I've never ever seen her knees or her elbows even once. Long sleeves and everything below the knee that also always stays below the knee even when seated and doesn't ride up to show knees. Kinda ironic because my dad was also really religious but somehow always the one in tiny 80s short shorts and in speedos at the beach but I guess opposites do attract. I'm straight anyway so I don't give a shit what my dad wears either way but I'm glad my mom has never been in fucking thongs or fucking naked in front of me ever. I'm 100% Oedipus complex free!

>>18736095
that actually sounds ever weirder

>>18736114
Huh? How the fuck is that weirder than seeing moms naked or in thongs?

i just wear panties with lace trim under mine but i'm not a girl so idk

>>18736125
it's because if things are as literal as you say you've absolutely NEVER seen your mom's knees or elbows? like not even at the beach or at the pool? not even on one of those unbearably hot and humid summer days? and when chilling at home has she never worn pajama shorts or one of your dad's oversized shirts and no pants? has she never in an urgent emergency run out of the shower with just a towel or bath robe on? like that just sounds so odd for someone you live with and spend all your time around. like i can understand being dressed modestly and all but to never ever have seen her knees or elbows just sounds so insane

>>18736141
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes...yes I haven't seen my mom's knees or elbows in any of those circumstances at all. I don't know why that's so shocking to you. Besides in the heat long thin material lightweight baggy clothes actually keep you cooler than showing a lot of skin. Helps with skin cancer prevention too. We did go to the beach and pool but my mom never got in the water. At most she'd just dip her feet in the water. She didn't really like getting wet.

>>18736154
>She didn't really like getting wet.
is your mom a secret cat girl?

>>18736228
Okay that would actually be really funny if true.

>>18724503
A strap on dildo...I'm not kidding. I learned from my female friends that it's actually kind of a common trick for women to keep creeps and perverts from looking up their skirts or dresses. They try to look up their skirts when climbing stairs or whatever and they think they're getting nice panties or a nice ass and vulva if commando but then there's just a fucking dick. Scares them right off.

>>18736549
weird but from the standpoint of preventing sexual harassment that's actually kinda genius

>>18736549
>Creep is actually into troons
>Either uses it as leverage or the word spreads giving you a tranny reputation
Ngl, that might be funny when confronted

>>18736549
I've never heard of anything like that, but I know an androgynous girl who's like the most stereotypical California lesbian ever except she's not actually from California and not actually a lesbian, and sometimes she wears tight leggings with a fake flaccid cock and balls thing under them just to fuck with people.

>>18724503
140 replies? Really? Is this the type of thing that even warrants and entire thread dedicated to it in the first place? I mean come the fuck on this is the type of simple yes or no question you can find on Google in like 10 seconds.

Bloomers over panties.... cute and practical

>>18736688
While you're not wrong I'll definitely take this thread over the many many other spam threads on this board. At least it allows for some sexy discussion about women's fashion

>>18736697
Nah fuck that panties all the way! I'm not too particularly big on thongs but I do have a thing for panties that are mostly full coverage but happen to show the bottoms of the butt cheeks. Maybe it's because I watched too much anime growing up and these are the kind of panties anime girls usually have on in panty shot scenes but I think it looks awesome in real life too. It reveals a bit but not too much. Almost like upside down cleavage. Similarly I like a little bit of cleavage but not too much of it. It applies to both butt cheeks and cleavage. Show a little but don't show everything. That's some real class.

>>18736717
I personally love thongs and a lot of cleavage out but what you described does sound pretty hot as well. Not as hot as thongs and a lot of cleavage but I'd definitely still be pretty turned on if I saw it.

>>18736688
>I mean come the fuck on this is the type of simple yes or no question you can find on Google in like 10 seconds.
google won't tell you the truth, women don't want you to know

>>18736830
Do things like Reddit threads count? From what I've seen searching stuff like "women what do you wear under short skirts" on women subreddits such as r/AskWomen, r/TwoXChromosomes, r/TheGirlSurvivalGuide, etc. about 50% of them said shorts underneath and the other 50% said just underwear...no secret there. A few at least probably go commando but are too embarrassed to admit it on a public forum.

>>18736834
>on women subreddits such as r/AskWomen, r/TwoXChromosomes, r/TheGirlSurvivalGuide
all those boards are controlled by pornbrained tranners, not a good source for what actual women do

>>18736837
The answers in those contexts seem pretty reasonable though. Usually when men pretend to be women they act in the most sexualized most fetishized way possible that realistically no woman would act like unless she was an OnlyFans whore or something. Men pretending to be women would most likely write something like "I wear absolutely nothing under my skirts no matter how short, I feel sexy as hell and even if I have vaginal discharge going down my leg or am on my period it's no big deal it's natural and it's hot." And in general they'll say stuff like "I love having boobs so much my favorite part about having boobs is jumping up and down real fast and watching them bounce it feels so good and I feel so sexy" meanwhile for the vast majority of real women bouncing titties is a really painful sensation especially if they have big boobs. Or another "I love walking around the whole city in nothing but a tiny thong bikini and all the men are turning their heads everywhere I go and sticking their hands down their pants boy is it fun to be sexy with by sexy big butt and my sexy big tits!" Meanwhile real women would most likely never do this, especially if they live in a bad area where rape is common; and most women except for literal whores don't wanna be sexualized everywhere they go. So basically the less sexualized the response is the more likely it's an actual woman and if it's really sexualized it's either a man pretending to be a woman or an OnlyFans whore.

>>18736839
you've literally just described all of r/menwritingwomen

>>18736839
Lmao I love how part of the nu-feminist movement was claiming women do have sex drives and aren't the pure innocent virginal creatures men fantasize about, also slut shaming is bad and sex work is real work. But when all that sex positivity happens to accidentally appeal to straight men then it's bad and no woman actually likes or does that and any woman you might see doing it is a dirty slut grifter, a pickme girl, or suffers from internalized misogyny.

>>18737074
not just specific to women but i fucking HATE when people keep constantly contradicting and contradicting and contradicting themselves a million times over and over again and never picking a clear side. similarly for women who can't decide if they want a sweet sensitive guy who talks about his feelings or a stoic meathead who never shows any emotion and is just sex beer and trucks sex beer and trucks over and over again. they often complain about the stoic guy and talk about how they want the sensitive guy but then they find the sensitive guy and wanna go back to the stoic guy again and then leave the stoic guy again for the sensitive guy and etc...

>>18737088
>i fucking HATE when people keep constantly contradicting and contradicting and contradicting themselves a million times over and over again and never picking a clear side.
Yup. This even applies to science too. A lot of scientists for example keep going back and forth on what's actually considered healthy and not. Then there are some nonsense studies I've seen such as "people who swear more, are messy and disorganized, and sleep less and stay up late are more intelligent" but then there are others such as "people who swear less and have a wider vocabulary of different words to use, know how to keep everything in its place to find it easily and clean up, and who sleep more because they know the important of sleeping well are more intelligent" which completely contradict and you don't know which is right.

>>18737088
See I got that whole thing figured out, I'm a sensitive guy who talks about his feelings but all my feelings are about sex, beer, and trucks.

>>18737228
wow. that's actually really clever

>>18737222
>"people who swear less and have a wider vocabulary of different words to use, know how to keep everything in its place to find it easily and clean up, and who sleep more because they know the important of sleeping well are more intelligent"
i buy this
>"people who swear more, are messy and disorganized, and sleep less and stay up late are more intelligent"
i don't buy this
MOST people swear a lot MOST people are messy and disorganized and MOST people don't get very much sleep and stay up late
it seems like people only wanna believe what makes them feel good about themselves and what validates their own habits and behaviors
i've heard some arguments such as "people who swear more are more intelligent because they literally have more words to choose from so a wider vocabulary"...well i don't think a vocabulary consisting only of fuck and its variations and shit is very wide. such as some people i know who talk like: "so like fucking fuck. i fucking woke up this fucking morning and then i fucking went to the fucking bathroom to fucking wash my fucking face and then fucking brushed my fucking teeth and then i fucking went to fucking eat fucking breakfast and it was fucking so fucking good" and so on and so forth
and just because a few famous smart people have some of these habits doesn't mean that people with these habits are all intelligent

>>18737237
>"so like fucking fuck. i fucking woke up this fucking morning and then i fucking went to the fucking bathroom to fucking wash my fucking face and then fucking brushed my fucking teeth and then i fucking went to fucking eat fucking breakfast and it was fucking so fucking good"
While talking like this is a bit excessive I do gotta admire the versatility of the word fuck. This sentence still makes sense despite how many times the word fuck was used. I can't think of another word in the English language that's so versatile like the word fuck. Shit is the closest I guess but it's still not even close.

>>18737264
I know very little Brazilian Portuguese because of my parents who are originally from Brazil but there they have the word "porra." Nowhere close to the word fuck but you can add it to the end of almost every sentence and it'll still make sense. If it matters the literal meaning of porra is cum but similar to how fuck doesn't always literally mean sex porra doesn't always literally mean cum. Most of the time it just sort of means really dude or are you serious.

>>18724503
I'm an 18 year old boy who looks rather feminine by nature and I sometimes cosplay as female characters who wear skirts and I just wear what I'd normally wear just boxer-briefs. Outside of cosplays I don't wear skirts but I do wear relatively short shorts that go above the knee so basically the male equivalent of mini skirts.

>>18737319
Uh oh even though 4chan is a 18+ site and you're 18 you still shouldn't have said that. Now half the people here are gonna wanna rape you. You'll basically be the 18 year old version of MWAHnon. Feminine, wearing skirts and short shorts, cosplaying as female characters, people know exactly what kind of underwear you wear, AND you're barely legal? You really should've kept that to yourself man.

>>18737319
>but I do wear relatively short shorts that go above the knee so basically the male equivalent of mini skirts.
i never really thought about it but yeah short shorts are indeed the male equivalent of mini skirts. i know there's kilts but they are a bit too scotland specific whereas short shorts exist almost everywhere regardless if they're the popular fashion at the moment or not

>>18737340
I never knew until I met my current girlfriend but apparently women LOVE a guy in short shorts similar to how we love women in mini-skirts, perhaps even slightly more so. I asked my girlfriend why and she just shrugged and said "I dunno legs are hot." I was genuinely so surprised because I never knew women cared about this. Needless to say my shorts went from knee-length to mid-thigh in not too long. I was kind of surprised to see how much my attention from women increased in general not just from my girlfriend. I'm at the point now where I refuse to buy or wear shorts unless they're at least 2 inches from the top of my knee at the very longest. So 9 inch inseam and shorter basically.

>>18737363
I would wear short shorts if only my buddies wouldn't roast the shit out of me for it. They still bully me for having ordered a pink alcoholic drink at a bar one time...10 years ago. I don't need to give them more reasons to make fun of me. But in return I also do bully them like this buddy who prefers white chocolate and hates milk and dark chocolate and I bully him for liking that horrible white crap instead of real chocolate. Or this other buddy who avoids chicken and turkey because he feels they're treated unfairly but eats literally every other kind of meat that exists and I bully him for not being man enough to just pick a damn side. Whenever I find something on them I won't let that shit go either.

>>18737386
Fuck that noise dude wear the short shorts anyway and then when your buddies try to make fun of you say that it's not your fault that you have better legs than they do and that they don't have legs worth showing off. And if your attention from women increases then that's an extra fuck you to their faces.

>>18725642
your moms a cunt, not just for being mad at her own child for not knowing girls develop breasts and asking his mom about it, but even moreso for slapping you for it.

>>18726579
ywnbaw

for some reason when wearing shorts above my knees compared to knee length or longer shorts my confidence literally skyrockets from 0 to 100. it's funny because i'm not even tall but just have really long legs and back in middle school when the trend was mid calf length shorts and you'd be made fun of for showing knees or thighs because of my long legs all shorts ended a few inches above my knees at least and i had to sag them to get them to be the "correct" length. and now as an adult it's liberating to know that nobody cares if my knees or thighs are visible or covered. i can show as much thigh as i want and nobody cares

>>18737651
Not too surprising. Most likely you secretly always wanted to wear shorts above the knees but were never able to due to the cruelty of the other kids. And now that you're able to it finally feels like freedom.

>>18736133
>>18737319
If you're not girls then nobody cares

>>18737852
No need to be a dick mate. Their perspectives can still be valuable. Skirts aren't limited by gender so what girls and guys wear under their skirts may not even be all that different or even just straight up the same though obviously women's underwear and men's underwear are different styles.

>>18737857
NTA but IDK if I ever intend to wear skirts but if I did I don't see why I should wear anything else other than underwear underneath. Isn't the whole point of wearing a skirt or wearing a dress the airiness and freedom that pants and shorts just don't provide? If you're gonna wear shorts underneath I feel it's best to just ditch the skirt and just wear some shorts. I don't see the point otherwise.

I imagine I'd probably wear long skirts but even if I wore short ones I wouldn't really feel embarrassed about someone possibly seeing my underwear. I'd just make sure to wear one of my better underwear rather than my old torn ones. I was a swimmer back in high school and college so someone seeing my upper thighs really doesn't bother me and most of my underwear covers more than the speedos I had to publicly wear (even in front of my crushes at the time) anyway.

>>18737870
i mean to be fair i kinda get why women would me embarrassed if someone saw their underwear while wearing a skirt because women's underwear are usually A LOT more revealing than men's underwear. like even briefs which are by far the most revealing of men's basic underwear compared to boxers and boxer-briefs still cover up way more skin than most women's underwear. like if a woman wears thongs or g-strings i kinda get why she'd want to wear shorts underneath because that's a whole lotta ass showing compared to men's briefs which usually cover the whole ass and at most only show the bottoms of the butt cheeks if they're a little small for you but that's it. though if she wears boyshorts or other full(er) back coverage underwear i don't see why she'd be embarrassed if someone saw them

>>18737886
funny how many of the same women who claim to be embarrassed at others seeing their ass when wearing a skirt soon go on to publicly post their ass all over instagram twitter reddit and onlyfans anyway

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>>18732764
It must be embarrassing for you when you take your panties down and you see your moist crotch.