/balding/ and /finasteride/ general - hair is love, hair is life!Sticky: http://tuxbell.com/index.php/BaldingReminder that if you can clearly see down to your scalp when your hair is wet, your hair is thinning, lots of small new hairs sprouting at the hairline or crown is a sign of hair recession.Holy trinity:Tabs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinasterideLotion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MinoxidilShampoo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KetoconazoleFinasteride/Dutasteride are 5-alpha reductase inhibitors that prevent free T from being converted to DHT, a byproduct of testosterone that serves no purpose after puberty but to choke out your hair follicles and make them thin out and die in a few short years, a condition known as androgenic alopecia.5ar inhibitors prevent your hair from getting any worse, mild regrowth is expected, rapid onset diffuse thinners see a significant recovery on fin alone. Can be taken orally or topically.5ARIs are not dosage dependent, taking as little as as 0.2mg daily fin can reduce serum DHT by 68%, while 5mg reduces by 72%.0.5mg daily dut reduces serum DHT by 95%, but is considered a second line treatment, and can be more expensive and harder to get prescribed. Start with fin.Fin has been used to treat benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) for 30+ years, it's very well studied and is tolerated well in almost all men, however, there's a 1-2% risk of erectile issues in controlled studies.These can be avoided by reducing dosage, spacing out dosage, or stopping the drug. Fin takes days to fully bio-accumulate, the half life of fin is about 8 hours, adverse effects occuring within minutes of starting fin or persisting long after stopping fin are not real and have no basis in reality. Please note that dut has a much higher half-life of 5 weeks, if you're prone to fin sides, dut may cause them for far longer.Refer to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/ before responding to PFS trolls.
Minoxidil (liquid and tabs) is a vasodialator that opens potassium channels and widens blood vessels bringing nutrients to your hair follicles, stimulating them into thickening, accelerating growth and elongating the growth phase. Min is taken with fin to restore your hair to it's original hairline, thickness and vigor when hair loss is caught early enough, (pre-NW2). Can be taken orally or topically.Topical min does not work in 1/3 of men because they lack the required enzymes in their scalp, all men have this enzyme in their liver so the oral route is a good fallback.The FDA formulation for 5% liquid minoxidil is food safe (vape juice, ethanol and water) and can be safely taken orally if oral min tabs are expensive or rarely prescribed where you live. As a general rule, ~4 drops (0.1ml) = 5mg minoxidil.There's a 1-2% risk of fluid retention with higher oral dosages, start with the lowest dosage possible and work your way up when you're sure it's well tolerated.Ketoconazole is an anti-androgen and antifungal that inhibits DHT on the scalp and used to treat fungal infections of the scalp that may be making your hair loss worse such as seborrheic dermatitis, a condition where you exhibit severe greasy, flaky large dandruff flakes with dried yellow crystals (blood plasma) embedded in the scalp. Some people may only have traction alopecia (hair loss from scratching or friction), but it will not cure androgenic alopecia on it's own. Can only be taken topically.Do not use spirolactone. Spirolactone is a diuretic which, in large doses, inhibits testosterone and, by extension, DHT.It is regularly prescribed as an anti-androgen for male to female HRT, and thus, comes with an astronomically higher risk of sexual side effects in men including ED, gynecomastia, and can cause potassium toxicity.Previous thread:https://boards.4chan.org/fa/thread/18752020#top
>>18770192I have been taking the fin since 2021 when I was 23. On 5mg tablets and I take like 3 a week. My my dick still works. Can get hard with a thought. Still get the morning wood etc. No gyno but I've always been lean. I don't think I'm genetically predisposed to it. My hair has been healthy ever since. I was probably a norwood 2, either that or like a 1.5. After a couple months the hairline reverted back to the level it was when I was a teenager. Will have to come off it if I want to try for a kid though. We'll see how that goes.
>>18770209>Will have to come off it if I want to try for a kid though.Why?
>>18770216There's a very low chance that it could cause birth defects apparently. Can go back on after she's pregnant.
>>18770221NHS removed that bit but better safe than sorry I guess. It doesn't matter youw on't recede that much in say 6 months or however long it needs to leave the system.
>>18770221Myth, there isn't a single anecdote let alone proven research correlating male use of finasteride and birth defects. It can reduce sperm count in men leading to a tougher time conceiving if your partner is old, that's it. If the woman is taking it that's a different story.
anyone else get hair shedding on stims? i started vyvanse recently and its shedding my hair like crazy. i’m only on fin not min
>>18770676doesn't matter. if ur taking fin it's not because of MPB.
>>18770676You've been asking this forever. Go see a doctor and get tests done or stop taking it
>started out as Norwood 2 at 17 but pretty sure I had very thick hair >now 27, norwood 3 with some diffuse thinning at the front lately, might be related to a lot of stress at work the past few manths>been taking minoxidil since almost 2 years, religiously since 1 year What do anons? I'm scared shitless of finasteride, everyone says the percentage of sides is low but if you dig deeper it feels like almost everyone admits they have side effects to some degree >obviously especially scared of long term sides after dropping it or even pfs if it's real >then there's also the angle of a hair transplant, should I just do it ASAP or try being on meds for 1 year (for whatever reason)?>"just shave it bro">not really an option because I have practically zero beard growth and not a particularly strong chinWhat do anons? This topic has been bothering me for a fucking decade, with highs and lows. The past few months have obviously been one of the lowest lows due to the thinning. Picrelated gives you an idea, except with dark blond hair
>>18770855Ignore the first what do twice kek, a bit too much rambling while I was writing this Also note regarding the pic: I obviously grow out my hair longer in the middle and then basically do a side part. With some volume and partially brushing it back it looks alright but obviously not great
>>18770855if you want hair then you try fin, simple as that. i was worried about it too but i havent had side effects
>>18770192I'm 46 now, I started going bald in high school, started shaving my head completely in my early 20's. thank the lord I look good bald. when I was younger I considered being bald a curse, now I consider it a blessing.
>>18770895You had me until the end. Hair is always better than no hair, you were not blessed - you made the best of a bad situation.
>>18770897>Hair is always better than no hair,nah, I'd rather be completely bald than have a skullet or a bad comb over
>>18770900What is the official point of no return anyway? My gut feeling would say nw5+ because then you don't have enough hair to get to a regular hairline anymore, but then you got docs like zarev performing nw6 miracles
>>18770914A 3.5 can look like a "mature" hairline with proper styling and density. By 4 your crown is usually going so you'll be perpetually balding forever by halting it and by 5 you're done without getting lucky with regrowth.
>>18770193To this day I still don’t understand how costanza always made looking like a fat dork look so cool and stylish he was always layered and colored fucking on point
>>18770962That would be because simply wearing a collar shirt or trench coat is considered stylish nowadays so the bar was lowered so low that some fat dude wearing a collared shirt and jeans looks dressed up to you.
>>18770965Mother fucker who are you coming at like that??
How the fuck do you even live the 3 months after hair transplant when you have a job. Is every guy who gets transplants a trust fund neet or wfh programmer?
>>18771035Its not too obvious after a week or two. Wear a hat if you're going to be outdoors.
>>18771038>not too obviousinb4 fibers, the hair is too short during that phase for them to stick
>>18770855Taking minoxidil won’t stop hair loss. You need finasteride. There’s absolutely no reason to be scared of it. The side effects are extremely rare and reverse after stopping. That’s the only way to guarantee hair stays and doesn’t recess>hair transplantThat’s not going to do shit if you’re not on finasteride; you’ll continue to loss hair and need another transplant. Then you run out of donor hairs and are stuck with a giant bald spot but thick hair around it. There are only so many donor hairs that are dht resistant and not enough to cover a full head. You have to take fin or you’ll lose all your hair. Side effects are mostly if not entirely nocebo. Get over it.
>>18770855Anon I am going to be 100% honest with you right now.I was concerned about trying fin also, but decided to give it a shot and see how it goes. I have been taking it for about 1 year and a half now and had absolutely zero side effects.Literally nothing different, except that my hair stopped falling out and had regrowth.
>>18771035>How the fuck do you even live the 3 months after hair transplant when you have a jobBe /strongmind/, simple as The first few weeks people will snicker at you and talk behind your back Then it'll be barely a topic, maybe one off hand remark or two 6 months in the situation reverses, you'll get compliments and other men start thinking "fugg, maybe I should do it too"
>>18771039I was talking about the glowing red injury phase. This is just cosmetic.
Am I cooked or fine? 29
>>18771404Maybe some slightly thinning at the corners, take a picture every 2 months and see if it is getting worse with time
29yo.It's over for me and I accept it.What I am struggling with is my head shape. Back of my head is completely flat, causing a "pointy" / elongated effect at the top.The space from my brow to the top of my skull is just as big as from my brow to my chin.Will shave all my shit smooth off at 30 and start using minoxidil on my beard. Can barely grow as much beard hair as a 16yo Mexican.
>>18771404You're literally a NW1 GTFO >>18771463Looks like diffuse thinning, so finasteride might do wonders
>>18771463Hardly over. You have a really bad skull shape like IT the clown you should be doing everything to save your hair.
>>18771404Fine where it is, but that's the thing. It wouldn't hurt to take fin to keep it where it is, you weren't born with that hairline after all.
>>18771574>telling guys with a perfect hairline to take fin You guys really like being diabolical huh
>>18771604He's a norwood 1-1.5. You aren't born that way, you recede into it and eventually further. If you want your hair to stay "perfect" you don't wait for it to get ravaged and play catchup for the rest of your life. You should know better.
>>18771606>You aren't born that wayYou are thirdie, this is a normal ass European hairline, not everyone is a Norwood -1 monkey
>>18771607What percentage of Europeans go bald exactly? I forget. A prominence of receded hairline couldn't be a correlation of the affliction affecting people, absurd!
>>18771607Oh right.. the "European hairline" is just a separate phenomenon. Now stop posting before you devolve into some weird nazi larp and embarrass all of us.
>>18771611>receding hairlineHis hairline isn't receding ffs that's just what a normal adult hairline with finer hair looks like
>>18771627We're not going to disregard the norwood scale because your feelings got hurt. As a norwood 1 you are balding, as a norwood 0 you are not. If you would like to stay as a norwood 1 then be proactive. A mature hairline (adult hairline) is often falsely attributed to a natural hairline, it's not, rather the point right before your recession is no longer aesthetic. Perpetuating your bro science crap just fucks people over.
>>18771634>As a norwood 1 you are baldingWeak bait
>>18771650What so you're not balding until you're a 2? How the fuck do you think you go from a 0 to a 1? The hair fairy comes and plucks your hairline when you turn into an adult? What a fucking idiot please just stop shitting up the thread.
Im nw2.5,I have good density, but my cut fucking sucks, I get laughed at and no match on dating apps. What cut should I ask for? I go to an expensive barber and have been trusting him but so far he's only been giving me bullshit like this, will add another pic to show hairline
>>18771690
>>18771690>no match on dating appsYou either take retarded pictures or you're a midget, your hair or face has nothing to do with it.
>>18771529>>18771556What are even my options? Finasteride seems to have a lot of sexual side effects. Plus from what I've read it only prevents further hair loss, not growing new / denser hair.I'm so fucking fed up with all of it. I hate the world and its expectations so much. At this point I want the world to see my fucked up head and raise my middle finger high in the sky, even if that makes me unattractivem. This fucking world isn't worth it anyway.
>>18771746Finasteride 1mg a day to halt further loss + No regrowth to mild regrowth all the way to substantial regrowth, won't know until you try, but usually results in the best case scenario for your type of baldness (Diffuse thinning).You will also want to take minoxidil, oral works best. This drug is currently the best option to reverse the thinning and does so very well when paired with finasteride as you don't need to fight a losing battle against further loss.Side effects occur at about a 1% incidence rate as per clinical trials, likely less so as "nocebo" wasn't factored in. That being said you can always take both medications topically to reduce the risk to essentially 0, though the hassle in my opinion is not worth such a marginal safety net.If you start now you'll probably have a healthy enough head of hair in a year from now that you won't need to consider shaving and can move on with your life. If you have any questions let me know I'm happy to help guide you down the right path.
>>18771771does minoxidil, the stuff you can just get at costco in the little bottles, have an expiration? feels like im going through it much slower than intended because im not dumping on my head and only taking 4 droplets a day orally.
>>18771783Yeah about 2 years. Best to change bottle every 6 months as oxygen exposure will degrade the minoxidil with repeated openings.
>>18771654No, you're receding. Dr Norwood himself said 3 is the first stage of balding
>>18771848Don't pretend like you don't know how semantics work.
>>18771851Anon, Norwood 0 is an internet meme to denote super low hairlines. The Norwood scale starts at 1, with 1 being "normal hairline, no balding". That's why the other anon said you're baiting, it takes like 5 seconds to google this
>>18771947No a norwood 0 is a juvenile hairline which represents no loss, it isn't represented on the norwood scale as it categorizes the stages of balding. A norwood 1-2 is colloquially known as a "mature" hairline which ranges from initial to late stage early recession (or balding). The terminology is antiquated as it originates from a time when hair loss wasn't as well understood and bro science was gospel. We use norwood 0 to denote what you consider incorrectly to be norwood 1.
>>18771947>>18771954actually 1 is either no loss or minor loss officially
>>18771955It can't be both. If its minor loss you're balding, which is what nw1 and mature hairlines are.
>>18771954Retardhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwood_scale#Stage_1>>18771956Once again retard, nw0 is not a real medical concept, it's just an internet meme. It's none or minor because at older years, some minor hair loss is absolutely natural and not part of a genetic phenomenon but just literal basic ass aging.
>>18771690finasteride + save up 3 grand.
>>18771980Your reading comprehension is so painfully slow that you disregarded everything said by multiple people for a Wikipedia article, proving my mothafucking point. I will spell it out for you as simple as possible for your fragile mind.The scale was created at a time when early stages of hair loss were considered a separate phenomenon to DHT related hair loss. As a result, in modernity we need a term to denote zero balding as we now know that all norwood stages present on the scale represent hair loss, including a 1.You can't use a norwood 1 to represent a perfect hairline, its an oxymoron. Where does picrel hairline sit on the norwood scale in relation to>>18771404?Both a 1 right?
>>18771980>some minor hair loss is absolutely natural and not part of a genetic phenomenon but just literal basic ass aging.What lol
>>18772073you can see Pitt has slight recession at the hair line there which most people have. Pitt's hairline looks like that solely because his temples reach far further than the other guy but they're both a NW1. this is about temples. genes dictate how far they go. most white people have shit temples that make the forehead look wide. what do you not understand.
>>18772083His temples reach further because they're not recessed as far lol. If Brad is a NW1 the other guy is a 2 with miniaturization on the hairline and receding temporal points. See how it doesn't work?By the way Brad is balding majorly now, seems he was on fin all along. Another "mature" hairline to cross off the list!
>>18772086no you idiot. i'm telling you it's determined by genetics. most white guys do not have the genetics for tempels of Pitt. the other guy is not a 2 not evne close. you're falling for lens distortion.
Anyone tried the HIMS chewable? Seems like the most straight forward option to me. I was using the peptide topical, knowing it probably wouldn't but but said "fuck it". I think I'm ready to try something that actually works.
>>18772088The genetics you refer to are the hair follicles susceptibility to DHT. You see during puberty DHT levels spike and as most Europeans carry the vulnerability to DHT and those hairline follicles are the weakest in terms of DHT resilience they miniaturize and fall out, no different to regular ass balding. There is no mythical age related balding or maturing, its the same exact process. When you go from your juvenile or NW0 hairline to a 1, you've lost your first line of defense and have made it onto the norwood scale.In terms of standard recession the further back from the hairline, the more resistant to DHT the follicles are though not immune once you have progressed to a 1 clearly. You are gambling with your genetics how long it will take for your follicles to submit to DHT. Some get unlucky where theyre incredibly susceptible and you get diffuse thinning.
>>18772091As long as it contains finasteride and minoxidil
Hollywood plays a HUGE part in the misconception that there is such a thing as a "mature" or "adult" hairline. All of these motherfuckers that people point to as examples are balding. If they would just be honest about their struggles more people would take the proactive approach.
Perhaps the greatest offender. Straight up lies non-stop about a mysterious serum, the strange thing is that he's not a transplantee either. Cycling meds? Wig? Fibers? Who knows. Catching a glimpse at his true hairline is almost impossible.
I noticed my corners had been losing density and hopped on fin at end of last year, I've been breaking 5mg tablets and taking a quarter every other day. Haven't had sides and seeing some regrowth. I'd say I'm around NW1.5 at worst and you can't tell I'm balding with my hairstyle, still I'm wondering if taking a quarter every day instead would improve regrowth (I know effect isn't linear), since I refuse to do minoxidil, it's a pain in the ass to apply.
Are the mental sideeffects of fin a meme too? Mostly worried about them desu
>>18772112If you measure further out you're effectively taking .60 to .80 mg a day by dosing EOD. The % change in DHT reduction is small but it does add up over the span of years.So yeah it would help to switch to ED maybe a lot, maybe a little, it may just take a while to fully appreciate the difference.>>18772113>mental sideeffectsLike?
>>18770192how come my palpitations from oral min stopped after a while? whats the scientiiic explanation for that
>>18772111Really weird transplant. Like they couldn’t decide whether to give him a “straight” turkey hairline or keep some of the M shape of a Norwood. It’s bizarrely in between those.
>>18772131According to some people, min starts being less effective after a while I had the same thing btw, had fairly noticeable heart palpitations for the first two months or so >>18770878>>18771045>>18771069Ok smartasses, assuming i start fin next week, when should i have the hair transplant?
>>18772091It’s overpriced as hell, both finasteride and minoxidil (what you need) are available as cheap generic drugs
>>18772131It's a reaction to sudden blood pressure changes by taking too high of a dose initially. Some people are more sensitive to oral min and the drop in blood pressure can cause them. It's why you start low and work up to full doses (ideally).
>>18772138You want to make sure you have gotten all that you can out of the drugs in terms of regrowth before opting for the transplant. You'll just be wasting precious donor follicles in areas which could potentially recover on their own. I would say a little over a year just to be certain and most competent surgeons will give you relatively the same timeframe.
>>18772144So basically start fin now, and also start messaging doctors now in turkey with the expectation I'll get a spot next autumn?
>>18772163Yeah. Just make sure you're checking testimonials and their transplant results, you need to be careful when selecting a clinic in the low end price range. Remember high volume of patients doesn't always translate into skill, you can't just slap a one size fits all hairline onto every head and expect them to all look good.
>>18772169Yeah I've done enough research, I think it's easy to avoid the hair mills, the trickier part is differentiating between less scummy and more scummy doctors. Some seem to have rumours of astroturfing or weird experiences
>>18772119>Like?Depression and memory
>>18772178The largest randomized clinical trial for finasteride found no statistically significant data correlating either of those alleged side effects to finasteride usage, even at the 5mg dose, 5x higher than what is used to treat hair loss.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4285451/>In summary, the findings by Irwig et al are quite disconcerting; however, even if the findings in these three articles by Irwig et al are accurate, this clearly only effects a small proportion of finasteride users. As stated above in the Prostate Cancer Prevention Trial, none of the more than 17,000 participants experienced persistent sexual dysfunction or depression.The side effect doesn't even present once in 17,000 individuals. It's telling how none of these alleged side effects occur in controlled medical environments... only on the deepest, darkest corners of reddit.
>>18772186What is with memory problems due to neurosteroid reduction
>>18772176I can't help you there my knowledge is only cursory when it comes to weeding out the bad clinics. Hope it works out and good luck.
>>18772187Which specifically do you think factors into memory?
So I actually looked into the reason why supposedly only a subset gets fin side effect, and it seems to be related to aromatisation of testosterone. It's a fancy word for converting testosterone to estrogen. And if that's well pronounced in your body, then you have stronger side effects.So the question is, is there a way to test myself for that before I start fin?
>>18772195Even further research, seems like the ideal patient in terms of having side effects is this:> young> healthy (duh), so active and normal weight > high test > low estradiol> low shbg (relative to test)Basically minmaxing free test and estradiol as an indicator for whether you have high aromatization.
>>18771690>>18771692Nigga go to Asia, there's a cute 160cm Japanese girl that would treat you like a god for you out there.
>>18772195Just get bloodwork done and expect anywhere from a 0 to 15% increase in hormonal levels, both test and estrogen. >>18772197Steroid use, which leads to significantly elevated DHT levels which in turn leads to hair loss and finasteride to remedy it. This is a bad combo as it compounds the elevated hormonal levels and can push estrogen levels into feminizing territory (really you can match the symptoms of PFS to those of excess estrogen 1:1). A 10-15% increase in estrogen is perfectly safe in a healthy individual and usually at parity with an increase in test. You can't get a hormonal imbalance from DHT inhibition without being on the verge/having of one prior. Those who experience adverse effects have hormonal issues prior to finasteride usage.>Old (DHT production decreases with age)>unhealthy (overweight)>high estrogen>anabolic steroid use
what norwood is this?
>>18772238pre-norwood
Old crown photo I took to prepare for my HT back in June 8th
>>18772255My crown today 3 months 11 days post-opMaybe already seeing a difference? Lighting should be the same.
I wish fin users were slightly less assholish. Sometimes I fell guilty about taking it because everyone else who does it seems so arrogant, saying shit like "balding is voluntary" and laughing at baldies. It's like I'm a sole educated black man in a ghetto of gangbangers
>>18772384when you get fed lies and get called a tranny for saving your hair you become pretty jaded, especially when you hear the same arguments against it by tourists everyday
>>18772186NO BUT SAAAR WE COMPLAINED TO FDA 24/7 AND POSTED A BUNCH OF PTETITIONS SO THEY LENT AND GAVE US A BUNCH OF MADE UP SIDES ON THE BOX YOU AHVE TO BELIEVE ME SAAAR I NEED TO SUE MERCK TO GET 3000 RUPEES
>>18772385>>18772384I think there's extremes on both sides, which is kinda insane to me Side A:>pretends fin has literally zero side effects and if you have any you're just overreacting or are some super rare 0.01% case, so taking it is an absolute no brainer >tends to brush off side effects as minor no matter how non minor they are, I've unironically seen people saying "oh watery semen and reduced fertility? No biggie"Side B:>pretends your dick goes limp and you become suicidal the nanosecond you ingest fin >and it'll stay like that forever so you better not do it or you'll regret it for the rest of your life My 5 cents: the truth is in the middle, in a non meme centrist way. I think side effects are very real, however they are a spectrum. A solid chunk of people has barely any side effects, but then you got also more than enough people who do get them, and those side effects can range from "minor" stuff like watery semen to more extreme things like impotency and gyno and depression. It's a fucking hormonal drug at the end of the day, telling people they should just take it without second thoughts is absolutely retarded. That's what annoys me about segment A, they really badly want everyone to take it to the point where I start suspecting there's some crabs in a bucket ulterior motives there and they want others to suffer too. HOWEVER group b is retarded in the way they pretend PFS is an established fact and is practically guaranteed that it will happen to you, while realistically speaking you can just get off the drug if you experience sides and there's barely any to no evidence for long lasting side effects.
>>18772138Like the other anon said, take the meds for about one year and then assess what sort of effect they had and if you even need or want a hair transplant at that point.I never had a transplant, but I know that the better surgeons usually want for their patients to already be on fin for about 1 year, before they get the transplant.
>>18772426Obviously I'll need one though, I mean look at my hairline in picrelated. >>18770855It's not like fin will magically make hair grow out in those giant ass m gaps.
>>18770855it's already over for you.
>>18772454Why would it be? One search for "Norwood 3 hair transplant" is enough to say otherwise
>>18770753i’ve done tests. doctors have no fucking idea they’re retarded. they said it might stop when i start finasteride. what the fuck does blocking dht have to do with stimulants?you people are more useful than doctor retards. just looking for help
I was on Minoxidil for a long time but stopped for a couple years. I just got back on it (topical/foam) and it's giving me crazy folliculitis (tons of tiny whiteheads where I apply the foam, temples/cheeks). I never had this problem before when I was on Min. Anyone had any experience with this problem?
>>18772195>>18772203Can't you just get an aromatose inhibitor to combat high estrogen
Life is so cruel. As soon as I made enough to afford a hair transplant, I find out that I can't get one because my donor area is too sparse. So if this year on duta/min doesn't work, I'll be a shaved head cel for life until they cure this shit.
>>18772483>I can't get one because my donor area is too sparseHow fucking bad is your donor area for this to be the case
>>18772482Problem is that then you increase test and therefore DHT (hair loss is common side from taking them). You could also end up crashing your estrogen levels and get a whole new host of problems.
>>18772486Bad enough apparently. Diffuse thinning victim.
>>18772434I am not saying you will go back to full juvenile hairline after you start fin, but I have seen people go on fin, get some regrowth and then decide, you know what, good enough for me, wont bother doing a transplant.Hair transplant or not, it doesnt really matter. If you want to keep your hair you should take either fin or dut as soon as possible and if you do decide that you want a transplant, you should be on meds for at least 1 year first, to see what sort of response you get.
>>18772110My hairline moved up to norwood 2.5 at age 19 and I'm 29 now and it's still the same.
>>18772583The weakest follicles go first. The older you get the more sensitive to DHT the remaining follicles become. You're not in the clear yet, far from it. Guess which age is actually the most common for men to go bald (as in norwood 5). Hint: It's not your 20s, that's just the rehearsal.
