What ever happened to the collar-less button down? How do it into?
>>18777791The dress shirt versions are usually designed to use detachable collars with. There is normally a back button or a buttonhole to pin the collar into, and something to pin the collar in the front needed for that to work.
>>18777791The whole point of the collar is to create a barrier between your jacket and your neck. There's no good reason to remove it. Wool is both itchy and a nuisance to clean, it has no business touching skin.
Very Armani, casual elegance etc. People don't wear ties, why have a collar. Good for appearing put together without looking like you have a stick up your ass.
>>18777791There's no such thing as a collar-less button down. 'Button down' is short for 'Button down collar' and refers to the small buttons that fasten the collar points to the shirt.
>>18777971People call shirts with buttons, button down shirts. Lemme guess you think pants should also only refer to pantaloons? Fucking autist
>>18778001>People call shirts with buttons, button down shirtsNo they don't, I'm not a native speaker and I know they're called button up shirts, button down is a different thing entirely.
>>18778003Normal people use button up and button down interchangably, ESL. Just because english has "rules" doesnt mean anybody follows them. When's the last time you heard somebody use "whom" unironically
>>18778007Thatās because normal people are dumb and genuinely donāt know the difference. āWhomā is proper grammar when referring to an unknown person as the object of the sentence, and the only reason itās not often used unironically is because, again, people are retarded and donāt know how to use it correctly (or at all). Language is devolving and youāre actively in support of dumbing it down.
>>18778007You are just a retard, it's okay to admit. You don't button a garment DOWN because buttoning down means attaching by means of a button. You button it UP because buttoning up means doing the buttons. This immediately transfers to the shirt, a shirt is a button up if it can be buttoned up (ie. Not a t-shirt) and it's a button down if there's anything to button down.Mongoloid fuck.
>>18778007>Normal people use button up and button down interchangably. No they donāt. Only retarded shirtlet americans do. They barely count as people, let alone normal people. They do this because they donāt actually know anything about clothes, or the language they ostensibly speak. A button down is a specific type of shirt, defined by the collar points being buttoned to the shirt front. The kind of retards who get this wrong would probably also call them ādress shirtsā too, and not understand why they were wrong about that as well.
>>18778129This kind of nitpicking is the same thing you get with women when you say leggings and tights are the same thing. Thereās a difference, sure, but if you actually give a fuck then you are spiritually feminine.
>>18778142Was thinking exactly this, there was three posts about OP's question and the rest is sperging.>>18777791I have a couple collarless black shirts, one from Hugo Boss which looks quite sleek with a full black suit, you have to have build your outfit around them. I wore that shirt with black cargos and military boots to the forest and my friend said "we're going camping not a uniform inspection" so y'kno, be ready to look like a retard, or maybe that's just me.In general it's like wearing suspenders, you have to have an idea for how it will compliment your already established style or you will look like a dork that is trying too hard.
>>18777791>How do it into?Nonsense words.
>>18777791chinese
>>18777895>Good for appearing put together without looking like you have a stick up your ass.Isn't that what OCBDs are for?
>>18778190Eh in my shithole town even an OCBD stands out. Plus, you can wear a linen band collar shirt to French 19th century working class maxx
>>18778142>Thereās a difference, sure, but if you actually give a fuck then you are spiritually feminine.This is the fashion board, anon. Itās important to give a fuck about clothes in order to discuss them.