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/balding/ and /finasteride/ general - hair is love, hair is life!
Sticky: http://tuxbell.com/index.php/Balding

Reminder that if you can clearly see down to your scalp when your hair is wet, your hair is thinning, lots of small new hairs sprouting at the hairline or crown is a sign of hair recession.

Holy trinity:
Tabs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finasteride
Lotion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoxidil
Shampoo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketoconazole

Finasteride/Dutasteride are 5-alpha reductase inhibitors that prevent free T from being converted to DHT, a byproduct of testosterone that serves no purpose after puberty but to choke out your hair follicles and make them thin out and die in a few short years, a condition known as androgenic alopecia.
5ar inhibitors prevent your hair from getting any worse, mild regrowth is expected, rapid onset diffuse thinners see a significant recovery on fin alone. Can be taken orally or topically.
5ARIs are not dosage dependent, taking as little as as 0.2mg daily fin can reduce serum DHT by 68%, while 5mg reduces by 72%.
0.5mg daily dut reduces serum DHT by 95%, but is considered a second line treatment, and can be more expensive and harder to get prescribed. Start with fin.

Fin has been used to treat benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) for 30+ years, it's very well studied and is tolerated well in almost all men, however, there's a 1-2% risk of erectile issues in controlled studies.
These can be avoided by reducing dosage, spacing out dosage, or stopping the drug. Fin takes days to fully bio-accumulate, the half life of fin is about 8 hours, adverse effects occuring within minutes of starting fin or persisting long after stopping fin are not real and have no basis in reality. Please note that dut has a much higher half-life of 5 weeks, if you're prone to fin sides, dut may cause them for far longer.
Refer to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/ before responding to PFS trolls.
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Minoxidil (liquid and tabs) is a vasodialator that opens potassium channels and widens blood vessels bringing nutrients to your hair follicles, stimulating them into thickening, accelerating growth and elongating the growth phase. Min is taken with fin to restore your hair to it's original hairline, thickness and vigor when hair loss is caught early enough, (pre-NW2). Can be taken orally or topically.

Topical min does not work in 1/3 of men because they lack the required enzymes in their scalp, all men have this enzyme in their liver so the oral route is a good fallback.
The FDA formulation for 5% liquid minoxidil is food safe (vape juice, ethanol and water) and can be safely taken orally if oral min tabs are expensive or rarely prescribed where you live. As a general rule, ~4 drops (0.1ml) = 5mg minoxidil.
There's a 1-2% risk of fluid retention with higher oral dosages, start with the lowest dosage possible and work your way up when you're sure it's well tolerated.

Ketoconazole is an anti-androgen and antifungal that inhibits DHT on the scalp and used to treat fungal infections of the scalp that may be making your hair loss worse such as seborrheic dermatitis, a condition where you exhibit severe greasy, flaky large dandruff flakes with dried yellow crystals (blood plasma) embedded in the scalp. Some people may only have traction alopecia (hair loss from scratching or friction), but it will not cure androgenic alopecia on it's own. Can only be taken topically.

Do not use spirolactone. Spirolactone is a diuretic which, in large doses, inhibits testosterone and, by extension, DHT.
It is regularly prescribed as an anti-androgen for male to female HRT, and thus, comes with an astronomically higher risk of sexual side effects in men including ED, gynecomastia, and can cause potassium toxicity.

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>>18770192
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>>18780021
Is he not using Fin/Dut?
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>>18780027
Probably now after the 2nd transplant. Maybe vitamins includes it?
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>>18780029
Looks very natural, who is that Atlanta HT surgeon? I bet he does a lot of celebrity transplants.
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>>18780031
Dr. Ken Anderson.
To be fair I think Cena's hairline has been completely intact his entire life and the transplants were addressing the midscalp/crown. At worst it's maybe progressed into a NW1 at nearly 50.
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It's like he was receding in reverse. Super odd having the hairline being more DIHT resistant
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Just wash your hair with eggs and honey, and massage your scalp. Guaranteed to grow your hair back. Stop buying random chemical slop concotions.
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>>18780016
It would be funnier if he had horseshoe pattern baldness.
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>>18780148
lol
Bullshit 'holistic' methods and home remedies like that are retarded.
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JUST OWN IT
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>>18780159
honestly looks badass, kill foids for hating this
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>>18780148
this will only make hair on sides and back better, good if you want hairstyle like Heihachi
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>>18780259
It looks like an oblivion npc
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>be me
>grow up in a family who all have puffy dry frizzy hair
>always keep my hair cut short
>in high school my brother tried growing his hair long and it looked like absolute fucking shit
>looked like George Washington on the dollar bill, and this became his nickname for a year or so
>this reinforces my belief that I have shitty hair that cannot look good long
>age many years
>start to get grey streaks a couple years ago
>have a mild midlife crisis and somehow decide to grow my hair out, once in my life
>haven't cut it in over a year, learning to manage with the right conditioners, products, and routines
>but now it's too late because my hairline is starting to V and I could start getting a bald patch anytime now

fuck I've been so in love with my long(er) hair and want to keep growing it for at least another 12-16 months before I decide on the final length, but I feel like I won't make it. Once you get a bald patch long hair just doesn't fucking work.
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>>18780262
all oblivion npcs are ugly but there are plenty fullhead ones, does it mean every guy with hair also looks like an oblivion npc no matter how attractive his face is?
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>>18780159
I never understood how the just shave it bro mentality is supposed to convey confidence. If you really are comfortable with your baldness you'd let it grow out instead of being another generic egghead with a cope beard on the street.
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>>18780267
it's about having a silhouette that isn't uncanny valley. letting your hair gain volume and puff-out when it's not growing uniformly around your head is not a flattering profile. you want to maintain a handsome headshape and silhouette somehow, and for most guys that means cutting it short so they don't take on weird polygon shapes.
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>>18780267
Shaved bald = servile, gynocratic slave, opts for the safe options in life, defeated, coping, in constant need of affirmation from other predictable eggheads and foids

Grown out norwood = truly confident, aristocratic, noble, carefree, comfortable in oneself, wise, risk taker
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>>18780269
>he's not pennywisemaxxing
Ngmi
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>>18780269
what about the men with
>>18780019
head shapes?
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>>18780276
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>>18780269
goofiest theory ever
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>>18780310
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does topical minox have the same potential side effects as oral? I don't mind extra hair growth anywhere/everywhere but I'd like to avoid fucking with my heart.
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>>18780318
my understanding is that as long as you scalp is 100% dry and you use the least amount possible (i.e. it won't spread down to your eyes etc over several hours of your day or sleep) it's much safer and isn't absorbed into your blood. But that's hard to achieve after a shower, and if you use any hair product that ends up on your scalp it will interfere as well. I bought the juice about a year ago and haven't been able to use it because of these reasons
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I'm like norwood 1.5 at 26 but my dad went gigabald like instantly in his 20s so during a visit to dermatologist for an unrelated reason I asked if I should be doing anything and she told me to use pic related.
Does anyone actually know if it helps prevent balding in any way?
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>>18780425
Snake oil
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>>18780266
No. The neotenous face contrasted with a nw5 is straight out of oblivion.
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>29
>severe thinning all over crown since i hit puberty
>2.5 months topical min+fin
>noticing hair very slowly covering bald spots
there is hope
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>>18780594
the hard part is sticking to it for the long haul and missing as few applications as possible. in two years from now you will be so glad
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>>18780603
yeah havent missed a single day so far. it's annoying to do it every day but still a million times better than going bald.
even though i started balding as a kid, i never accepted it. wonder if it might have had different feelings about balding if it progressed normally.
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>>18780267
Michael Ironside should be included in these threads. He looked great until he got fat when he was 60+.
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am I a Norwood 1 or 2 I can't tell, but I know something is changing
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>>18781090
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The TRUE Method to keep your hair

Genetics DO play a role but not in the way you believe, rather they protect you and allow you to keep your hair even if you do a lot of unhealthy habits. But as with working out and skincare, you can make up for them with epigenetics

How do you go about it? (the true holy trinity)

1. Fix your diet, stop eating garbage and processed food, hair needs cistheine and methionine in order to grow, protein powerhouses like eggs, raw red meat and raw dairy are crucial as they provide you with these aminoacids.

2. Quit shampoo, it stresses your scalp by stripping it from its natural oils and forcing oil overproduction to make up for it, wonder why does it get greasy after a few days? Alongside all the toxic chemicals it has on it.

You can wash your hair using raw eggs, it contains all the minerals and nutrients your hair needs (Biotin, Vitamin A, B, D, E, Selenium, etc.)

No it does NOT smell, but if you really care about it you can add natural oils like Castor or Avocado oil. There are plenty of testimonials online of people quitting shampoo and using these methods.

If you think it's gross or you are allergic to eggs, you can use Apple Cider Vinegar + Water (1:1 ratio), or Bentonite Clay.

3. Have daily sunlight, it can be any time of the day but I prefer during the morning or dusk where UV concentration is the lowest, people with AGA tend to be deficient in Vitamin D.

Extra: 1. Lower your cortisol, high cortisol puts your hair into a resting phase and eventually leds to shedding.

Avoid these afforementioned chemically castrating drugs and evaluate your shitty lifestyle where you eat garbage, sleep like shit and you find yourself constantly stressed and then blame "genetics".

Or if you are going to do it anyways, at least make sure to get these things right before getting into any prescriptions.
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>>18781185
stinky alert
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>>18781185
Regarding sunlight, it leads to the production of Vitamin D in your body, I guess supplements work but probably not as good as simply being outside.

You can add things like:
Scalp Massages: These stimulate your scalp and increase the bloodflow and increases the delivery of nutrients. Check the dermatologist Rob English for this. (Minoxidil was originally a drug prescribed for cardiac problems, until they realized it had some effects in the hair by increasing bloodflow, on top of being extremely toxic.)

Silk Bonet/Pillowcases: Unlike cotton, this material helps to reduce friction when you sleep, mechanical friction or pulling tend to be really common causes of any hairline recession.

Wooden Comb: Plastic or metal combs can create static electricity that can damage your hair overtime.

Rosemary Oil: Similar to minoxidil, it stimulates growth, but unlike minoxidil, it's not toxic and you can stop using it and keep whatever growth you achieved.
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>>18781185
Like 0.1% of balding cases are not hormonal, this is all cosmetic at best. Also what is the point of topically applying vitamins? They won't go systemic, you should have done at least cursory research into your pseud fanfic.
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>>18780021
>>18780029
>>18780048
This nigga nuked his sperm count with roidmaxxing so hard he turned infertile and now is coping rationalizing it's his choice not having kids is his choice becuase he doesn't have "time" when he's a fucking octrillionaire
even worse if his balls still function and have sperm, actually even worse for him then
meanwhile he's busy copemaxxing with hairtranplants with egocentric beautifying your own looks for no end, no purpose, look better for who? his life serves zero purpose and meaning, a life truly wasted
he is done

Anyways, what's a nice comfy hat(cap) to wear for larger heads can't find anything that is comfy ngl
only can rock beanies the fuck
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>>18781249
He's an A-list actor now and having hair isn't exactly negotiable when Statham is already more than enough for that niche.
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>>18780267
I think a good barber could still make something decent out of this hair situation. Keeping the sides really short and leaving the top longer, then styling it accordingly, could work. Sure, at 25 it would look stupid either way. But for someone over 40, it would be fine.
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>>18781348
Despite being one of few guys to actually pull it off he was a notorious hat coper in real life funnily enough.
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>>18781349
it's not even just cope, the scalp needs protection from heat and cold
we are not meant to be bald
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>>18781347
how about the niche of a bald male actor who isn't the size of a fucking 12 year old lmfaoo
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>>18781371
Crazy how camera trickery makes him look in movies. He's being mogged by an 80 year old de niro in real life.
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>>18781347
>He's an A-list actor now
That's not a real thing, it doesn't exist
His life is void, null, useless, finished, done
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>>18780021
>49 years old
>oh noo my hair guys come on i need to look cute and sexy even if i'm already famous and r ich

Mf should have just gone Bruce Willis way with being a cooler older retired detective type shit in his career
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I've been on fin for 6 months, hasn't done shit for my hair but I had morning wood so hard today it almost hurt. I also haven't had a depressive episode since I started, and I normally have one every few months. Could be in my head but it seems all the side effects so far are entirely positive.
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>>18781413
>I also haven't had a depressive episode since I started, and I normally have one every few months.
Could be caused by low test and the increase from fin inadvertently fixed it
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>>18780425
DHT blockers are the only thing that reliably stop/slow down hair loss, everything else is a meme, especially for those poor bastards you sometimes see that go from norwood 1 to 5 in like two years. If it happened to your dad then there is a good chance it will happen to you too so pay attention to your hairline and react swiftly
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I'm 37, nearing 38 and I've recently noticed way more hair in the shower drain than before.
This is how many hairs are in the drain each time I shower.

Am I fucked? I thought I'm too old for balding already
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>>18781547
Shedding is normal. What isn't normal is thinning due to genetic baldness.
Post a picture of your hairline and crown and we'll be able to determine if you're balding or not.
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I WANT TO STOP FUCKING SHEDDING AHHHHHH
Guys never get stressed out at work it's gonna make everything so much worse
While I knew I was balding it remained full and barely moved for years, now I got stressed at work for like half a year and I can't stop gulping hair while showering, hair literally falls in front of my eyes when I comb through it with my fingers and in terms of thickness it feels literally like fucking nothing in the front. I hope the thinning is just temporary due to stress but if it's not I feel like it might even be too late

Does fin even make sense at this point? Minoxidil clearly hasnt helped, I'm currently at Norwood 3-3.5 plus apparently thinning HARD in the past few months so I'm not sure what to do.
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>>18781570
> I'm currently at Norwood 3-3.5 plus apparently thinning HARD in the past few months so I'm not sure what to do.
Fin and forget for 2 years, then reassess.
>Does fin even make sense at this point? Minoxidil clearly hasnt helped
Yes. It's the only thing that works for male baldness.
Temper your expectations, but expect a full cessation of further hair loss.
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>>18781571
>expect a full cessation
How quickly? I just want peace of mind, I can't anymore
Honestly as long as my dick still works and I'm fertile I'll be happy, how realistic is that?
Also should i switch to oral min?
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>>18781572
>How quickly?
From the first pill you take, DHT is under control. That doesn't translate to a cosmetic gain right away, sadly you need to spend months either worse than baseline or slowly gaining hair before it looks better. Because hair grows slowly and in cycles.
>Honestly as long as my dick still works and I'm fertile I'll be happy, how realistic is that?
VERY realistic. Clinically, your dick not working or getting gyno from finasteride is very rare. You might want to block any content related to baldness for the first few months, because it's very easy to lose your sanity when dealing with hair loss and seeing people fearmonger about finasteride every day.
>Also should i switch to oral min?
If you want to guarantee that minoxidil is going to work, sure. Some people don't respond to topical. But the only way to know if topical minoxidil was working is to quit it cold turkey and see if you lose a drastic amount of hair. Brutal process, but that gives you certainty.
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Greying is a worse enemy than balding. Fuck. Keep getting white hairs. So many on the crown.
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>>18781577
How is it worse, would you rather have no hair? Just dye your hair if it bothers you lol
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>>18781576
>Clinically, your dick not working or getting gyno from finasteride is very rare
Define very rare
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>>18781595
nta but most jewtubers say its like 1%, Its one of those things with meds where if you expect it to have side affects then it will happen. You can try less powerful dht blockers like ketoconazole shampoo and/or saw palmetto first but if that don't work then fin/dut is your only other option.
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>>18781607
I hate even discussing this like it's a common occurrence at all but just stop taking the meds if that happens, there are zero clinically observed cases of a persistent side effect.
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>>18781616
Every person i ever talked to taking fin ultimately admits to some side effects, they just don't consider them for some reason
>oh yeah I had aching balls the first few weeks but then it went away
>oh yeah I have no sides, just watery semen
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>>18781625
That's more so your body acclimating to initial elevated hormonal levels than a predictable and repeatable occurrence as a direct result of finasteride being present in your blood. Sometimes people are just more sensitive to the process of getting your DHT under control, you'll be fine in a month.
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I leave some hair in the front for fun and buzz the rest. I guess I could grow it way out and do a comb-back, but that would be embarrassing in a non-fun way.
I tried Rogaine years ago but it didn't really help. My dad was bald and more importantly my mom's dad was bald. There's no avoiding what's coming.
Enjoy what hair you have left I always say.
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>>18781639
Nice m8.
No reason to go full skinhead while you still have something.
Bit weird that teenagers who are barely balding are told to join the skinhead cult instead of even ATTEMPTING treatment.
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>>18781639
Oral min + fin immediately and you have about a 50/50 chance of making a serviceable recovery. This is your very last chance if any part of you wants to at least attempt saving it.
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>>18781648
>Oral min + fin

What exactly is this and how much does it cost? I'm in my forties and Rogaine foam didn't seem to help me 10 years ago.
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>>18781653
Oral minoxidil is the pill form of Rogaine. A lot of guys lack sufficient enzyme activity in their scalp so the stuff you rub on doesn't work, oral bypasses that and is all but guaranteed to provide results.
Finasteride will prevent your hair loss from progressing further and usually leads to regrowth for a lot of people. Neither will bring you back to your childhood hairline at this stage but with a bit of luck your situation can drastically improve.
If you live in the US just get a keeps or hims subscription for now with oral formulations. I think its about $20 a month. Once you're more familiar you can shop around and lower your premium quite a bit.
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>>18781661
Thanks.
I bought the 5-in-1 Keeps chews. It's $100 every three months. Supposedly it takes 4-6 months to even begin working.
Oh well, it's just money. I don't expect it to work just like I don't expect to win if I play a slot machine. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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>>18781639
lmao
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>>18781669
Nice good luck on your journey.

>Supposedly it takes 4-6 months to even begin working.
It begins working immediately. Your hair loss will stabilize and at least it won't get worse. Seeing visual improvement however is a different story. 3-6 months for initial results is about right. My best advice is to wait at the very least a year, ideally a year and a half and see where you're at then.
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>>18781639
Don't cut most of the top short. Let everything on top grow to the same length as that patch at the front. Let your sides grow out more. Scissor cut not clippers. Get on fin+min. You can save it
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>it is scientifically proven that DHT helps maintain adult sex drive and contributes to muscle mass
>but somehow nuking your dht with finasteride by 70% is supposed to have side effects in only 1-2% of people
Something doesn't add up here
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>>18781839
Replace DHT with testosterone and it wouldn't be a lie.
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>>18781839
>Something doesn't add up here
Yeah, your understanding of DHT.
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>>18781887
>>18781929
You both are seething but how is he wrong?
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>>18781955
Muscles have very low amounts of 5AR activity. It takes a lot of DHT to have an anabolic effect (the amount produced naturally is nowhere near it). Testosterone is far more important, and 5AR inhibitors INCREASE testosterone.
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>>18781968
Notice how he didn't address the second point because it's not disprovable
5AR is the first step in making several neurosteroids, which are steroids produced in or acting on the brain. The best-studied is allopregnanolone: 5AR converts progesterone into an intermediate, and another enzyme turns that into allopregnanolone. In animal studies, these neurosteroids also influence sexual behavior and protect nerve cells and myelin. Allopregnanolone matters enough that a synthetic version, brexanolone, and an oral relative, zuranolone, are now approved treatments for postpartum depression.
And that's the brain side of things. The most horrifying biological fact:
Penile tissue contains 5AR. Androgens help maintain the enzyme that produces nitric oxide, the main signal for erection, as well as the smooth muscle structure that lets the penis fill and trap blood.
DHT is LITERALLY mechanically linked to having an erection so put 2 and 2 together and realize what will happen to you after you nuke it.
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>>18781975
>In animal studies,
Dropped
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>>18781977
How exactly would you conduct human studies without ethical concerns retard
Anyway it does the same job for humans
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>>18781983
Ethically via scans and other non invasive measurements
Then stuff like picrelated comes out
Enjoy getting your dick shrunk and potentially suicide
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>>18781984
Why not post the link to the study? Is this why?

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7354335/
>This study was funded by an unrestricted grant from the Post-Finasteride Foundation.

The control group is 25 men with "PFS", lmao you can't make this up.
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>>18782009
By the way PFS is literally just estrogen excess
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>>18782009
>noooo you can't just be funded by an independent organisation, you have to be funded by a Pharma gigacorpo which makes the medication or it doesn't count!!!
Lmao
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>>18782013
>independent organization
That was involved in a multi-million dollar lawsuit with the FDA when this study came out. Stop being a fucking retard.
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>>18782017
Applying Occam's razor here: should you NOT sue the gigacorpo if it turns out their medication has debilitating side effects?
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>>18782022
Class action lawsuits are borderline fraudulent. It's in the best interest of the case to encourage claimants to lie and exaggerate in order to increase the settlement fund pool. This is why you see a laundry list of side effects on OTC medication as the pool of users is significantly higher and therefore it poses a higher risk of fraudulent class action lawsuits. Basically when finasteride was first made available it was an obscure drug and the lawyers failed to account for the popularity it would see in 20 years time. Just look at Tylenol, arguably the most common OTC drug of all time, guess how many lawsuits they've settled? Thousands, class action suits are a multi-billion dollar industry.
>sue the gigacorpo
Finasteride is off patent, Merck doesn't make money from finasteride.
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You guys ever heard of Post-Baldness syndrome?
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>>18782036
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>>18782059
>he did suicide
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>>18782036
>Post-Baldness syndrome?
let me guess
>go bald
>come to 4chans
>post baldness
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>>18780628
He look fucking cool.
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>>18781090
1 but it can be hard to tell when you have a naturally high hairline. Fin+min will serve you well for years, it'll be 5-10 years before you start actually feeling like you're 'balding'.
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>>18782306
If he really is a NW1 all he needs is fin for maintenance.
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>>18782363
for real, i hate seeing people mention min so often when it may not be necessary considering you'll have to take it every day for the rest of your life potentially
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>>18782454
I think you can probably get away with taking it once every 3 days, or once a week, if it's the 1mg pill.

In any case it's also good to take if you have a family history of prostate cancer
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So I was "approved" by their bullshit provider (as if they don't just sell to anyone) and they're sending my chews. I guess in 12 to 18 months I'll see if I can bring back some hair.
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>>18782463
Nice. If you know it works, then you can save money by getting generic Propecia (1mg dose) and Minoxidil (usually 2.5mg for hairloss) from Costplusdrugs instead of their Keeps compounded solution. But you'd need to go through another consultation with a health care provider for that.
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>>18782306
>>18782363
>>18782454
>>18782458
NW1-anon here. I booked a consultation for this. I would really prefer tablets over topical because of my hair routine (it's always wet in the morning, I have to put product in to stop looking like Sideshow Bob, etc) so topical 'nox is just too difficult (scalp has to be clean and dry and supposed to apply at least 1x but the label says 2x a day).

I just have to make sure the tablets won't make me sick or dizzy or all those other things. I'll see what they say, I just want to get started early so that in a year or 3 from now I'm not cursing myself for not starting early.
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>>18782463
Keeps billed me, never sent me ANY products, billed me twice more, still never sent anything. 3 years later they never refunded me a penny and never sent me ANY min or fin. Fuck that kike run company.
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>>18782504
i would never buy fin or min from a branded company.
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What do if Norwood 7?
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>>18782554
Shave it. Some people do insane 12k graft hair transplants, but it'll just look like you're perpetually diffuse thinning hard. Which looks worse than just being bald

NW1: you're not balding
NW2: fin and min
NW3/NW4: hair transplant + fin and min
NW5: pushing it, most likely hair transplant will get you to a nw3 at best
NW6+: shave it
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>>18782463
Your hair will initially look worse due to shedding phases, it sounds scary but it's a positive thing for regrowth. Shave your head if don't want to look extra thin in the first couple months but do not stop taking the meds during these phases or you will be worse off.
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How are we feeling about clascoterone 5%? 12 month safety review is done on phase 3 trials, should be FDA approved and available next year at some point. Will you add it to your stack?
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>>18782656
We already have RU-58841 for a topical androgen blocker so it's not exactly going to be a game changer. It will be a net benefit to anybody though I don't enjoy using topicals so I'll pass.
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>>18782656
How can you be feeling something about a drug you've never tried and there's no proper reviews for other than clinical trials?
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Balding will be cured this century (like proper cured, meaning you can gene edit your kids to not bald) and this fact makes me incredibly depressed. Literally born just 50-100 years too early
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>>18782665
I wouldn't be so certain, we still don't know which genes are responsible for passing on the sensitivity to DHT. Literally the best understanding we have is that it's your mom's grandpa lol (probably bullshit). Unfortunately I think we're still a long ways off of even fully understanding it.
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>>18782669
Discovery of DHT is 60 years old
Finasteride is 30 years old
Crispr for humans is 13 years old
First fully successful hair cloning is 4 years old
It think you don't comprehend the pace of human progress
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>>18782670
You gotta believe it when you see it in this game
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>>18782674
This has nothing to do with the 5 years meme, it's just basic extrapolation
Especially with the renewed social stigma that comes with balding (or more precisely male demand to fix it), it's only a matter of time
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>>18782665
Life has been steadily getting worse every year since 2007 and you want to be born 50-100 years later. Son.
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No one has any side effects?
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>>18782756
is having a juvenile hairline a side effect?
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/bald/bros, I've been on min + fin for quite a while and it is working great!

Has anyone had dandruff or flaky scalp too??
I've been dealing with dandruff since forever, and doc gave me some antidandruff prescription, but it's making my hair and scalp very dry and flaky.
It werks, but I don't know what to do about the dry hair.
Any recommendations???
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>>18782756
hair grows everywhere except on head kek
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>>18782759
that would be problematic
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>>18782758
ketoconazole 1% got rid of my dandruff and I used a drop every week on my hairline to keep it from coming back, I just ran out, my last bottle lasted 2 years.
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>>18782763
did you have flaky scalp or very dry hair from using ketoconazole?
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>>18782764
I only used a small amount after regular shampoo and before conditioner so that was never an issue for me.
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>>18782768
oh so you can use shampoo while using ketoz ???
shocking truth!
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>>18782774
the problem is at the scalp, I never really got medicated shampoos that pair a crap shampoo with an active ingredient, just lather up a small amount and let it sit where it's needed for a few minutes
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>>18782776
alright, thanks senpai
I'll report results later
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>>18782756
The side effect is that you don't have to go bald in the worst time in history to be a bald young man.
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day 8 of using minoxidil foam
i'm getting the hang of application
still very annoying though
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>>18782786
>apply at night
>apply at morning
>6 months in and all I can see is new thin hair.

I'll just stick to my oral min+fin, thanks
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>>18782785
Nigga being bald sucks, but not being able to get hard or having heart palpitations sucks even more
There's a reason why all these treatments are for other things
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>>18782789
the min dosage for high blood pressure is 5x the one for hair regrowth
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>>18782789
Efficay is a foreign concept to you retards. Name the last medication you took.
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>>18782800
Probably something for my allergy. I'm a healthy guy
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>>18782801
You should just deal with it instead of getting depression and death from those meds
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>take dutasteride + oral minoxidil
>still go bald
the "balding is voluntary" crowd must be big pharma shills or people who weren't even going bald in the first place and still took the drugs
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>>18782840
Lying, AGA was not the cause of your hair loss, dosing incorrectly.
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>>18782869
What other types of hair loss make you go bald on the front and top while leaving the sides and back intact?
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>>18782873
burying your head in too much snatch amirite
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>>18782869
Finasteride is not a guarantee you won't go bald little retard. It doesn't remove 100% of DHT and if your follicles are extremely sensitive to dht due to genetics, as long as there's some dht it'll only slow down things at best
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Is there even a single reason NOT to use topical fin other than convenience?
From what I've understood the goal is to minmax scalp and serum DHT, since scalp dht is what actually matters and serum dht is what leads to side effects. And based on study topical leads to the same scalp reduction and results while having lower serum dht.
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>>18782966
>lower serum dht
Higher serum dht/lower reduction*



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