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Incense Guide

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Fragrance Flowchart

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Fragrance Groups 101

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Gay Guide

>>18780574
Aventusbros??

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>tfw you can't post "what does he/she wear" questions on /frag/ anymore

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Everytime I wear vanilla frags my body smells like ice cream. That's a no no from me.

>>18780609
For me, it’s burning tires.

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Fragrances to elope in the woods near a church with my fragile and sickly pale waif lover and praying for forgiveness after?

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What can you tell me about Gary's Den FOMO? Doesn't it smell like the old DHP?

>>18780626
Sycomore?

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Going to the mall to try some florals tomorrow morning. Gotta enjoy my last few days unemployed since I got a job finally
>>18780574
I was gonna call this bait but it does not pertain to me whether or not these frags apply for gay people, as they are all masc and top when I wear them. Specially Valaya
>>18780626
Unironically Yatagan for me

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SOTN
Bros it's actually kind of good

Is that greek ladyboi fucking fag still here? he was such a cocksucking queer lolll

>>18780574
I own Musc Ravageur, Althair and Fahrenheit

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>>18780574
Hello, fellow TikTok’r.

Lesbian Guide

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>>18780637
Straight Guide (Srry quality is shit, he hasn’t posted it on his substack, or the Bi one).

>>18780626
Relique d'Amour by Oriza Legrand

>>18780638
shit guide. waste of effort

>>18780642
Okay, which short and unemployed bottle is yours?

Thoughts on Spicebombs?

>>18780574
>>18780637
what makes a fragrance gay?

>>18780627
of course not. otherwise people wouldn't pay 500+ dollars for a bottle of 2014 dhp

>>18780645
chanel bleu. this is just dumb. sorry you wasted hours tho lol

>>18780647
Legitimately gender expression. Certain notes evoke expectations of masculinity, femininity, both, or neither on a sliding 4 way scale. Certain combinations evoke varying degrees of masculinity of femininity or interaction with each other in socially contradicting ways that are validating to one’s on experience with gender and sexuality both growing up and their identity as a whole. An obvious one is Tobacco Vanille, spicy sweet. Most sweet fragrances are overly sweet gourmands chosen by vehemently hyper fem people (some twinks, trans women, femme lesbians, and overwhelmingly heterosexual women). Think of the Barbie black girl with cheetah, hot pink, and a push-up bra or tank with her tiddies hanging out. She’s probably super sweet and bubbly. She likely smells like Bianco Latte/Eclaire. Most tobacco fragrances long ago were aimed at older men and were rather raunchy. Associated with leather car seats, jackets, and cigars. You can see that top masc gays, laid back masc straight men, and butch women like Ombré Leather. Clean straightforward masc associations. The unique combination of this masc and sweet (tobacco and vanilla) could theoretically appeal to someone who likes the subversion of expectation, a top but not hyper masc gay who was made to feel feminine in his youth on being gay alone, the straight tomboy, the “chapstick lesbian.” This fragrence is almost universally loved and might not be the best example in terms of unique expression, some fragrances get VERY specific to times, places, moods, etc. tied to those perceptions of gender and they’re fucking magical.

Fragrances aren’t exclusively gay, but sometimes they evoke such a unique experience it might only be appreciated by someone who is. Generally these are ultra niche, hobby houses making shit that smells like specific mushrooms in a forest in Tibet.

>>18780652
I didn’t make it you dummy. Someone else did by

>>18780656
-polling real people

Accidentally hit auto reply

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>>18780558
>still malding about 'da joo' Luca Turin when he's literally /ourguy/ and has been included in the OP for years at this point
what a fucking retard

>>18780574
>>18780637
>>18780638
lol stupid shit

>>18780647
all frags are gay if you take charts like these seriously desu

>>18780630
>I was gonna call this bait but it does not pertain to me whether or not these frags apply for gay people, as they are all masc and top when I wear them
this

>>18780667
>still slobbering on the cock of some irrelevant jew who doesn't know you exist and deferring your opinions to him
what a pathetic faggot

4 compliments in less than an hour yesterday wearing Imagination... easily the goated compliment getter

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>>18780672
i accept your concession (of being retarded), retard anon
he doesn't need to know shit about me, the other points are ofc wrong (as expected)

>SOTD: ELDO Rien
it's that time of the year again

>>18780678
lots of words just to say you suck cock

>>18780683
Isn't that the 'Burn Local' guy?

>>18780574
Did you just call my fragrance gay you little faggot?!

>>18780574
Babe wake up, new /frag/ chart just dropped

t. Fahrenheit EdT

>>18780638
Nevermind
Shit chart made by some faggot
>Fahrenheit EdT
>Short and unemployed
Literally could not be further from the truth

>>18780672
He isn't a jew on his mothers side though. Only through fathers side and even then only partial.
For e.g. Vladimir Zhirinovskiys father was fully Jewish, but it didn't stop Zhirik being based as fuck.

Which is better between Layton and Naxos?

>>18780728
Layton.

>>18780728
Layton by far

Thoughts on this one?

https://www.parfumo.com/Perfumes/french-avenue/liquid-brun

>>18780725
His dad was half jewish, his mom was a femenist writer and a descendant of people who had "the right to mint money" and usurped power from Italian nobles. If that isn't the most jewish bio I have ever read then nobody is jewish. That's before you get into his work with the government and his jewish connections to get on the BCC documentary that launched his scam "career". Only golems fall for jewish tricks.

>>18780736
>>18780737
Why? Based on notes alone Naxos seems more interesting, what makes Layton so good

>>18780723
It’s only a masc top fragrence if you're Gay. You have done soul searching to do, anon.

>>18780649
they can pay 250 for Harmonious Boadicea at a discounter

>>18780749
called Liquid Brown for a good reason

>>18780756
>so good
i think you misunderstood
it's not 'good', it's 'less bad'

>>18780761
>Layton and Naxos
>bad
Why are you contrarian? Serious question

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>SOTD

>>18780728
Both are great, sample and pick the one you like most.
Layton for me too.
>>18780749
One of the only "clones" that smells kinda similar to the OG (95% of clones are trash).

>>18780764
contrarian? no, i just don't like these frags
imho both naxos and layton are overpriced sweet sloppa crudely amped to the max with aromachemicals to appease (brown) people who need to compensate for the lack of taste, style and/or hygiene
ymmv ofc but putting any of these on a pedestal is just bad

>>18780768
>sweet sloppa crudely amped to the max with aromachemicals
Have you smelled Naxos? Sounds like you're describing something completely different

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>>18780769
yes, i have a full bottle and smelled it a few minutes ago
it's still cheap lavender + cheap tobacco + cheap sweet sloppa (honey) and there's def some cashmeran in there (which i'm quite sensitive to for some reason)

>>18780768
>imho
doesnt sound like your own honest opinion though, a lot of contrarians have the same npc opinion as you

>>18780772
see the cap at the top right corner here >>18780771
>yada yada
stop with the retarded buzzwords and tell us why you think these are good/great frags + post pic of your collection ofc

>>18780771
>>18780774
This makes me curious, which fragrances in the same vein do you think are noticeably higher quality? Since Naxos smells cheap to you and you have a fairly large collection, can you recommend something that smells expensive in a similar register?

>>18780778
yes, Tauer Sundowner

>>18780778
>>18780779
on a related note: please post your collection and why you like naxos/layton/etc.

>>18780779
>tauer sundowner i.e. a sticky syrupy mess of tobacco and amber
>smells more expensive than naxos, literally the most refined gourmand profile available
Whatever your nose is just fucked

>>18780784
>naxos
>the most refined gourmand profile
>literally
lol, lmao even
post collection, thanks

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>>18780771
>>18780784
>nicolai shill and naxos shill are fighting again
the usual suspects lmao

>>18780801
nice head canon

>>18780779
NTA but this twice as expensive as Naxos (both 150 EUR one is 50ml the other 100ml) and you called Naxos overpriced for what it is.
Does it really smell more than 2 times better than Naxos?
I'm curious to try a sample now if you aren't bullshitting of course.

>>18780809
for me it clearly does but then again, i don't like naxos at all
test it for yourself but i think it's a great frag with just the right amount of edge (from the cypriol oil and the cacao) to make it interesting and wearable at the same time

>>18780804
One shills nicolai and the other shills naxos, how is something that is happening in front of everyone head canon?

>>18780814
when was the last time anyone shilled for nicolai ITT?

>>18780815
every thread?

>>18780821
lol you are right, but only if shilling =
nicolai is mentioned once in the last couple of threads and some retards are malding about it

The latest ffern release lists oakmoss as an ingredient but I doubt you faggots would know much about that. The high IQ poster would have though...

>>18780815
>>18780828
The OP that makes almost every thread and gets mad when people don't shill for the jew is the self confessed nicolai shill. Are you new, stupid, or both?

>>18780850
ffern is a fomo scam brand and oakmoss is not allowed in all but the most minute and undetectable amounts so it's just using other ingredients to simulate it

>>18780856
You are so full of shit. The ifra regulations are non-binding.

>>18780642
>>18780637
>lol stupid shit

This general is lame. Why is everything Layton, H24, Terre, Encre Noir, and Dior Pour Homme? None of you post anything remotely interesting or challenging. Same fucking sperging in every thread.

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>>18780853
>mfw when nicolai shill
also keep up with the script, newfriend
the nicolai shill is shilling for Parfum d'Empire now (which is a great house btw, buy their frags or at least their sample pack, thx)

>>18780859
>>18780859
IFRA doesn't have regulations because they are not a governmental body, they have guidelines, and when the ffern perfumer Elodie Durande, who is owned by Quintessence, plugs in the formula into their software it automatically complies with IFRA regulations. Stop replying to my posts and avoid further embarrassment.

>>18780865
It's hard to talk about my fragrances when they are all vintage and most are discontinued so I end up speaking to myself. Who the hell I'm I going to talk to about Leather Oud, Cuir Cannage, Fleur de Liane, Egoist Concentree, etc.. in this shithole? You can only have a conversation with /frag/tards about stuff you find at Macys or Sephora. Last night I wore Tauer L'Oudh which is pretty interesting. The other day I also wore my Ted Lapidus Pour Homme (the leather one) which probably has real castoreum.

What are your most interesting fragrances?

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>>18780757
Categorically incorrect. Just because tom of finland ass fags try to claim a classic like Fahrenheit, doesn't make it homosex in the slightest.

>>18780883
Fahrenheit is pretty gay. I like it but I'm not surprised fags like it.

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>>18780751
>had "the right to mint money" and usurped power from Italian nobles
You mean like half the merchants of the Renaissance Italian republics, city-states, etc? At a minimum the Venetian, Genoese burgher classes. De facto, they were essentially unscrupulous Jews in all but their faith.
But I wouldn't assume from that statement alone that his maternal side is automatically Jewish. Cannot be bothered to doxx him that far to comment on the other points.

>SOTD Gris Dior

>>18780889
>doxxing someone for their public statements, wikipedia page, and documentary
Golems are the stupidest monkeys on the planet, they really defend people they know nothing about.

>>18780865
Ok, then post something remotely interesting or challenging to (You) and create discussion instead of having a sook

>>18780875
>How it feels spraying Dior Higher Energy

>>18780892
>Watching a documentary, reading articles and purposely getting sand in your vagina over some (alleged) crypto-jew
lmao

>>18780892
>Golem
If you're American I'd find that incredibly funny. Glass house. More jews than in all of Israel in the states.
>Ignores rest of my point and spergs out on semantics of the word doxx
200 IQ obviously

>>18780904
Stay in the cave golem.

>go away for a few hours
>open /frag/ and it's ten posts of 'da joos'
never change, retard bros

>>18780901
based, might cop the Kurky version later on for shits and giggles but i'm still waiting for my Jules to arrive

which frags will increase my gym strength

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>>18780933
Kouros

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>>18780933
Chanel Antaeus or Dior Fahrenheit

>>18780778
Penhaligon's Sartorial

do frags change with time? if I leave one untouched for 20 years will it still smell the same?

>>18780946
Yes especially if you've already sprayed it at least once and introduced oxygen into the bottle.
Oxidation, evaporation, and heat and light exposure take their toll, albeit to a far lesser extent when stored properly in a cool, dark place.

>>18780930
Curious about Jules myself, do let us know how it is, considering copping it.
I haven't gotten my nose on Kurks Higher or Higher Energy, but I've got both the OGs, so I'll try to do a comparison and post

>>18780933
Lynx Africa

>>18780946
If you leave a fragrance untouched for a few months after spraying it'll change, so yeah, 20 years will incur a change

this is something you could've just googled because it's been known to be true for over 100 years btw

>>18780952
>>18780961
So what the fuck is the point of buying dozens of bottles like a lot of people ITT if they will get ruined?

>>18780946
They last a surprisingly long time, the lighter notes get more fleeting but the heavier notes are pretty resilient. I have very old fragrances 30+ years old that smell great. It mainly becomes an issue when light and heat cause damage.

>>18780637
Do you mean a trans identified male in a wig because a lot of that is mall ass shit

My sister wears Side Effect Initio and my sister's boyfriend wears Kirkè Tiziana Terenzi

What does this say about them?

>>18780970
>I have very old fragrances 30+ years old
>I have fragrances from 1996
I kek’d. Normally thinking “The 90’s were 30 years ago” makes me feel old as shit, but this is one of the few cases where I laugh and can’t help but want to scoff.

I do know what you mean though, Anon. You’ve prob got a few much older than 30 years. I have an ~83 bottle of PRPH, and a different frag that’s either 50’s, or possibly 30’s.

>>18780969
You asked if they changed, fren, you didn’t ask if they spoil or go bad. Yes they change, they CAN go bad, but they can also remain relatively unchanged for 100+ years if they’re well stored and depending on their notes.

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>>18780933
>gym frag

>>18780984
>you cant smell good at the gym because uhhh you just cant!!

>>18780987
you can, its called soap

>>18780990
So lv imagination?

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SOTD: Al-Rehab Dakar
I posted this picture because I hate Creed Aventus.

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>>18781026
Nice edit you got there. What AI image generator is this from?

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>>18781026
>new formulation
Nah

>>18780933
10 sprays of Ombre Leather on clothes

SOTD: Ombre Leather

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>>18781028
>cant function in a room with more than two people present
>but can walk into a library and instantly tell you how many blue books are on the shelves

>>18780991
That or Mugler Cologne.

>>18780558
I bought a Tom Ford Black Orchid perfume

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Went to a few local fragrance stores and Sephora yesterday with my pals to try something new(I'm >>18780630). Found the floral I was looking for that smells kinda like TF Soleil Neige but costs 90% less. A few interesting finds:
>Sauvage Extrait
They made the second best Sauvage better, now I'd rank them
>Eau Sauvage>Extrait>Elixir>>>>>the rest
I'm a little relieved that finally someone made a better alternative to Black Afgano than all those arabs who love oud and smoky profiles so much but could never really encapsulate the darkness of it properly. Very dense frag but has a classy BdC vibe to it still, lasts forever and projects like crazy.
>Terre D'Hermes Parfum
What an interesting frag, a closed scent profile that has some mystery to it(and if it's mysterious, it's oakmoss ofc). I still prefer the EDT but this appears to be more versatile for day and night.
>YSL L'Homme
The perfect masculine soapy scent. Blows LV Imagination out of the water, would wear this everyday in my house.
>>18781084
Good frag

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whichever tiktok or youtubers covers this will kick off the next meme fragrance

>>18781088
They finally renewed your contract, eh?

>>18780874
This simply isn't true and belies a complete misunderstanding of what is going on. You were the one pretending that the ifra guidelines PROHIBIT the inclusion of oakmoss in the formulation. Apologise.

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>>18780874
Your brain is so so small and tiny and birdlike.

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What am I in for?

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SOTD. Very nice so far. Minty and not much aquatic notes though. Going to see where it goes.

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Very intrigued by this

>>18781104
mostly slop, except for the black knight

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>>18780934
for me its kouros sport

>>18780942

Both

Modern Antaeus is better than vintage
Vintage Fahhrenheit is better than modern

>>18781088
>Adnan

tired of arab fragrance companies flooding the market with their garbage

>>18781160
What's the Dippy in the back-left?

>>18781162
I really want a vintage F, eventually. Even though I think my 2020-ish batch is still great.

>>18781160
based, also that is one great shelf ngl

>>18781125
You just know Indians gonna love this

is anyone here into fragrances that don't make you smell like an old person or is that not contrarian enough for /frag/

>>18781168
no, feel free to fuck off, bye

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>>18781165
tam dao.

>>18781169
cringe

>>18781168
can you define what makes someone smell old?

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>>18781168

>is anyone here into fragrances that don't make you smell like an old person or is that not contrarian enough for /frag/

tiktok and instagram influencers are your best bet for overpriced garbage mass appealing panty dropper sex god fragrances.

>>18781174
hit a nerve huh
>>18781173
you know perfectly well what it means, shit like this
>>18781160

>>18781176
i dont know what it means, though. thats why i asked. you're the one who said it so im assuming you can clear this up for me easily

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>>18781176
we discuss everything here but you sound like a bitch so reddit or tiktok probably is really your best bet.

>>18781177
>pretending not to understand
are you a woman?
"classic" aromatic fougeres, chypres, whatever
>>18781179
>we discuss everything here
obviously not, 4chan being a reddit colony now whatever goes against the /frag/ consensus is le bad
also these pics are cringe as fuck faggot

>>18781180
post collection, thx

>>18781181
I accept your concession fag

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>>18781180
>obviously not, 4chan being a reddit colony now whatever goes against the /frag/ consensus is le bad
>also these pics are cringe as fuck faggot

>whatever goes against the /frag/ consensus is le bad

like what?
you sound like you're from reddit, taking things personally and getting butthurt because someone enjoys fougeres, chypres etc and don't discuss Savauge all day. That post was a response to someone saying he liked kouros and he posted that he liked kouros sport more and then you came here crying .

>>18781184
nothing was conceded there, retard
post your collection

>>18781180
but what does smelling like an "old person" MEAN? you're just listing off exemplifications

>>18781188
what are you socrates? fuck off
>>18781186
>on't discuss Savauge all day.
don't be disingenuous, what transpires from these threads is some kind of pathetic hivemind where if you don't constantly suck off nicolai, shit like antaeus, kouros, some garbage from the eighties or whatever, and instead want to discuss modern, pleasant fragrances, the /frag/ npcs will not tolerate it
you know this is true you just don't want to admit it

>>18781189
>he cannot define the words he uses
not a great look

>>18781176
Based for calling these weirdos out

SOTD: Althair

>>18781192
based
>>18781190
pretending not to understand things doesn't make you look clever, it makes you look passive-agressive and effeminate. now fuck off

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>>18781189
literally hundreds of fragrances recommended in this thread alone and only 3 anons brought up vintage fragrances as if that's a crime. I guess that goes against reddit guidlines.

did blud really respond to his own post?

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>>18781194
>>18781189
>>18781184
>>18781180
>>18781176
>>18781168
>all these words
>not a single frag posted
grim

>SOTD: Nasomatto Duro
sweet(ish) leather for manly men (totally not gay tho fr no cap ong)

>>18781195
being disingenuous again, posters in these threads consistently jerk themselves off about vintage bullshit, old fougeres and other things in the same vein while anything that departs from the /frag/-approved reddit list is shut down systematically by the hivemind. you know this to be true

>>18781194
starting arguments over conditions you cannot clearly label definitely doesnt make you look clever either

>>18781197
duro is great. I also really like Blamage from nassamotto but i never see it being discussed anywhere.

>>18781200
aesthetics cannot be systematized you mouthbreathing troglodyte

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>aesthetics cannot be systematized you mouthbreathing troglodyte

>>18781202
then it would appear "old people smell" is merely fiction you invented in your own mind

>>18781203
I accept your concession once again
>>18781204
the adjective "dated" is used very frequently to refer to specific fragrances with specific notes/accords, keep coping

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>>18781199
we also discuss about modern fragrances a majority of the time. Also why wouldn't we discuss vintage fragrances as well? For people who like fougeres the only way to smell a real fougere is to smell vintage perfumes or non ifra compliant perfumers works since it is a composition of lavender, coumarin, and oakmoss and ifra has banned oakmoss from perfumery.

>>18781201
>Blamage
it's not bad but i think it's an inferior version of CDG2 and it's drydown is somehow quite similar to Pardon (i think - Gualtieri uses a similar base in many of his frags)

>>18781205
the only thing i conceded there is that you are retarded (still waiting for your collection btw)

>>18781206
I never said they shouldn't be discussed

>>18781209
159 posts in this thread and 3 were about vintage fragrances but that's too much for you. hundreds of modern perfumes recommended. most people's sotd were modern fragrances.... I don't get why you're sperging. Just cause we're not always talking about what you like isn't a reason to sperg. You sound like an entitled brat. I hope your dad wears 6 sprays of Cosmair vintage polo green before whipping you with a belt.

>>18781205
dated is relative and simply means the fragrance smells like a has-been trend. one day, gourmands, ambroxan and amberwoods will all be considered "dated"

this thread is so autistic

>>18781211
you know full well that the general opinion in these threads if overwhelmingly skewed in favor of these fragrances to the point that when someone asks for a pleasant, modern fragrance he'll get retarded recs like bon monsieur and NYI. stop pretending
>>18781212
sure, but I don't think trends are that linear anyway, sweet fragrances have been "in" since the 2000s and only seem to go through iterations of various popular accords (fruity ouds for example around 2024) but sweet scents in general will always smell pleasant to most people
that being said I wonder what the next trend will be

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How good is it?

>>18781211
>I hope your dad wears 6 sprays of Cosmair vintage polo green
based

>>18781216
cringe but at least you are right about sweet sloppa fruity oud being the current thing
imo one of the next trends will be brands repurposing their "classic" frags for the modern audience (see the Kurky versions of classic Dior frags)

>>18781218
i think i tested this frag but already forgot about it (that's my experience with most of the the Amouage frags with the exception of Silver Oud which is an extreme frag in a good way)
these bottles are also atrocious (their bottle for masculine frags is beautiful)

>>18781220
>cringe
I'm right though, sweet fragrances are just universally appealing, and all trends starting from the 2000s are mostly variations on accords that evoke sweetness.

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>>18781216
Maybe because those two are amazing reference point fragrances for men? Imagine someone who knows nothing about fragrances who has been wearing Hummer Pour homme their entire life ended up taking your advice . I'd feel sorry for him. I for one thank whoever recommended NYI to me all those years ago.

>>18781221
>universally appealing
wrong again
the masses (NPCs, whatever) like them, some people (contrarians if you will, also me) don't

>>18781218
It's nice, it's a monster. Not subtle at all.

>>18781223
>I for one thank whoever recommended NYI to me all those years ago.
same here
>t. nicolai anon

>>18781223
>amazing reference point
that's the thing though, they aren't
when someone comes into these threads asking for something most people will like, easy to wear, versatile, modern and whatever, you need to be autistic and/or severely out of touch with reality to recommend fucking NYI, antaeus or azzarro PH instead of something like DHS, TdH, DHI, or even cool water
>>18781224
contrarians don't matter though

>>18781225
>Not subtle at all.
As in beastmode or not refined? Is it a polished kind of amber or more of the dry, raw Tauer kind?

>>18781168
I am but I lurk more than post, if you are not part of the local hivemind you are wasting your time. One key takeaway from both here, fragrantica reviews or even reddit frag subs is
>don't take subjective opinions as facts
It was a costly lesson for me.

On that note, my subjective experience is, there aren't that many colognes out there that are good in price, good in performance and good in it's smell all at once. And even about that select few, my own opinion changed about it, in a small timeframe.

>>18781227
>that's the thing though, they aren't
they are, though
>DHS, TdH, DHI, or even Cool Water
wtf are you on? these get suggested all the time (by me and others)

>>18781230
>good in price, good in performance and good in it's smell all at once
at this point I tend to settle for 2/3 by going for "masstige"/luxury houses
sometimes you have outliers like BI but overall I agree with you

>>18781231
>they are, though
they smell like a geriatric, get real. there are genuinely good classics like the dreamer and CW or even fahrenheit and then there's shit like bon monsieur, NYI, kouros etc

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>>18781227
tdh and dhi are discussed here religiously....wtf are you on about redditor?
Also i've had more compliments wearing Antaeus than any other chypre. Also anyone in the fragrance world will tell you Azzaro PH is a reference point Fougere and NYI is a modern reference point fougere. You're the one out of touch with reality. Just cause you don't like them doesn't mean everyone else is crazy. You want people stop talking about great classics but you want us to talk about cool water lol

>>18781236
>>18781237
here are the facts faggot, normal regular people think NYI smells like floor cleaner and Althair smells amazing. I'm sorry that's just how it is

>>18781239
>opinion
>facts
shiggydiggy

Recommending classic fougeres for daily wear under 50 is like recommending an used 60s classic european or american car for a reliable daily driver for the whole family. We know it's historical importance, it had it's time but come on.

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>>18781235
>they smell like a geriatric
>there are genuinely good classics like fahrenheit

have you smelled first batch Fahrenheit? it literally smells like a dumpster fire. Which is a good thing to me but I guarantee you would hate it. Sounds liek you're into soft amberwoods with a light citrus top note.

>>18781240
keep smelling like a geriatric
>>18781241
they'll grow out of it, ironically enough

>>18781228
>As in beastmode or not refined? Is it a polished kind of amber or more of the dry, raw Tauer kind?
Beastmode. It's insanely smooth.

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>>18781237
NYI is not really a fougere desu

>>18781241
>>18781243
sure thing, buddy

>>18781242
I don't dislike modern Fahrenheit, haven't smelled the vintage one and not interested
>soft amberwoods with a light citrus
not really, I prefer heavy ambers, tobaccos, gourmands, some ouds and leathers and tend to find woody citruses uninteresting aside from some like voyage d'hermes. however I can separate my own taste from what most people will find appealing (although it does intersect with my taste in part)

>>18781246
cope

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>>18780934
So i tried Kouros and it smelt like Quorum on me. Is my skin chemistry fucked?

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>>18781168
Yeah there's a lot of good stuff in the popular designer brands and they are commented here if you in between posts of Kouros, Fahrenheit and Yatagan, frags which I enjoy btw. They're not as interesting as the fougeres though, that's why I think the base Sauvage flankers are lame and Elixir/Extrait are good, they're interesting. But there's exceptions like Y EDP which is one of my favorite designer frags that I don't own. I also enjoy some JPGs though apparently we're not supposed to since the bottle with a male figure triggers the 4channer's closeted homosexual tendencies. What also happens is that some people think a few oldies make you smell like older people but they're wrong, the frags are timeless and they're limiting how they think of something because "oh old guys wear it" but it's all subjective so who cares. I know I don't.
>>18781173
>can you define what makes someone smell old?
It's oakmoss. It's always oakmoss.
SOTD Prada L'Homme Intense

>>18781239
then i don't see why i should care about normal people's opinion. In fact, being called average is usually an insult. look at how poorly the average person dresses, eats or takes care of themselves and ask yourself why you'd want to emulate them

>>18781091
>>18781092
Go back and read my posts. It is compliant with IFRA, it has the allowed amount which is almost nothing so they can put it on the notes for idiots like you. You're literally agreeing with my post but you're too dumb to see it.

>>18781262
that's acceptable but you can't pretend these frags are timeless and mass-pleasing and attractive while at the same time acknowledging that they're just not that appealing nowadays to most

>>18781264
no one claims that these frags are mass appealing in the current age. they're appealing to the user and for them that's what matters. you can wear stuff simply because you like it and not really care about what other people think about them.

you might then say that other people will think you smell bad because you're wearing something polarizing or that's not mass appealing, but i'd say that it has less to do with the scent itself vs how much is applied. for example, Sauvage is considered one of the most mass appealing perfumes out there, but you also commonly hear about how it's bothersome and unpleasant because people overspray it

>>18781269
>no one claims that these frags are mass appealing in the current age
what I'm criticizing is specifically people who recommend these frags to newfags and to those who are explicitly searching for universally pleasant and modern fragrances. obviously you can enjoy whatever you want
>you also commonly hear about how it's bothersome and unpleasant because people overspray it
true

Liking old discontinued non mass appealing frags and hating the popular/sweet ones is like saying burgers taste like shit and then you proceed to cook some thousand year old oats sludge recipe.

>>18781273
Even among food analogies, that's lame.

>>18781271
who cares about newfags. at least they are getting exposed to things they normally wouldn't see or try.
regardless the advice for newfags will always be the same: go to Sephora or a drugstore and sample stuff. recommending stuff to people new to the hobby will never really make sense to me because perfumes are a matter of personal preference and react to your own skin differently than others.

>>18781273
I mean some people have weird tastes and it's a fact that the more exposure you get to fragrances as a hobby, the more you'll become open to more unconventional scent profiles and seek out weird stuff because the rest will start to seem generic to you
that's why you need to touch grass occasionally by sampling shit like spiritueuse double vanille, african leather, layton and whatnot to be reminded that smelling interesting and smelling good aren't the same thing
>>18781277
more likely is they'll try it, dislike it and default back to sephora anyway, but it just seems disingenuous to me when people see the phrase "attractive and mass-appealing" and respond with lapidus PH while criticizing recs that are obviously more relevant and likable

>>18781280
>but it just seems disingenuous to me when people see the phrase "attractive and mass-appealing" and respond with lapidus PH while criticizing recs that are obviously more relevant and likable
at this point, it's a meme just like getting fitness newbies to do SS and GOMAD.
me personally, i don't mind vintage frags and own a few. some are classics and some are polarizing in the current age. that being said, even if you end up blind buying it and not liking it, those frags are like 20$ so who cares

>>18781089
Stick to your Aventus and Imagination dupes nerd

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>SOTN: Geo F. Trumper Sandalwood Cologne
i like it, similar in spirot to Chanel Egoiste

>>18781298
>spirot
spirit ofc, fml

>>18781273
>Liking old discontinued non mass appealing frags
Imagine how absurd it would sound if you said the same thing about someone liking Mozart, Night of the Hunter, The Stranger, or Quake.
>hating the popular/sweet ones
It's always funny how people criticize stuff without knowing anything about them. There are plenty of old discontinued popular/sweet fragrances. You would be surprised how many modern popular/sweet fragrances are discontinued too. Educate yourself.

>>18781273
what about people who love a 500 dollar niche fragrance but hate the 40 dollar fragrance its a clone of?

>>18781273
lmao good bait, food analogies always work

>>18781316
this happens to me a lot, clones are never as good as what they're imitating. You have to be a complete noselet to believe liquid shit = althair, moustache = tuxedo, etc. but arab clones especially are very bad

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Just picked up picrel at Burlington.
Clone of Xerjoff Deified Tommy Iommi.
Off the bat it is not a mass appealing scent. It’s a potent jammy rose and strong leather scent that reminds me of gasoline.
Wearing it makes me feel like a whore.
All that being said, incredible fragrance. Might buy a decant of the original and see how it is.

I think I hate bergamot in my fragrances?
I’m just tired of seemingly everything having it.
What’s the best fragrance with a prominent bergamot note? Like one that has it as the main feature. I already know Bergamask but what else is there.

>>18781352
AdP Bergamotto di Calabria is what you seek, don't expect it to last though

Whats the craic for this autumn/winter. Anything stand out?

>>18781399
I have byzantine amber and tauer desert decants but I'm starting to get tired of them
might get something sweeter and more vanillic but not sure what

>>18781104
>Montabaco Intensivo - pure sexo
>1861 Renaissance - very clean and high quality scent
>Bianchi, all excellent frags, haven't tried Mariner's though

Curious how Dark Lord is, I was eyeing that myself, let us know when in comes in

Nishane is kind of slop imo and Reflection Man is like a more expensive Prada L'Homme. I dislike both PLH and Reflection Man equally.

>SOTD Dior Jules
Lads, this was very, very nice. Lasted about 8hrs on skin. I never tried either OG Jules. But this was mossy and oldschool smelling, without any pissy facets. Classy.
I also tried the rest of the mens Dioriginals and can say that they're all well done. Though if you already have Higher or Dune pour Homme, then skip those. They smell pretty true to the OG. Higher Energy was surprising because it's really quite different from the OG. It's less melon forward, and a lot more pineappley. It's sweeter and not in a bad way. I think I prefer the 2003 version, it's more futuristic smelling in a new millennium way. The Dioriginal version smells like a typical sweet, citrus/pineapple freshie.

>>18781247
Quick recap of events ITT
>This naxos sperg strikes again
>Goes head to head with nicolaifag
>Gets utterly destroyed
Thanks for coming, folks

>>18781247
>I don't dislike modern Fahrenheit, haven't smelled the vintage one and not interested
I love Fahrenheit, but I can never bring myself to buy a full bottle of it because I absolutely hate the violet leaf "gasoline/leather jacket" opening.

I sold my bottle of Narciso Rodriguez' For Him because of it. (In For Him's case, the violet came off like the smell of wet concrete. Not as bad as gasoline but still not great.)

Every time I wear it, I remind myself that it's just twenty minutes of suffering before it comes good, but then I ask, why should I have to suffer?

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How the fuck is this shit still my most complimented fragrance?

>Cutie in a shop, 'Damn, you smell so good'. Next day I go back, what the fuck is that perfume, I can smell it everywhere in the shop, its so sexy
>A woman stopped me at the street, 'Hey, can you tell me what's your perfume so I can buy it for my son'
>Bro, you smell so fucking good

>>18781432
>Every time I wear it, I remind myself that it's just twenty minutes of suffering before it comes good, but then I ask, why should I have to suffer?
with enough repetition, you'll Pavlov yourself into loving the opening

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>>18781449
It is a compliment magnet but at what cost. I impulse bought this while drunk and hated the rotten lemon opening and barely get any pineapple notes from it at all. Figured that I'd rather not use it than use something I dislike just because other people compliment it and gave it away. Supremacy Collector's Edition is what internet people swear this smells like, but actually good.

>>18781449
>>18781453
I can vouch for Collector’s Edition. Not only Intense and in Heaven are also good. Club de Nuit is very boring and synthetic in a way that’s headache inducing over time, and that’s AFTER the 20 minute lemon floor cleaner opening. It smells like so many other generic $20 masculine metallic+musk frags on drydown, that it doesn’t make sense to suffer that opening.

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Hello /fa/, I have a question. I am a NEET that never does anything, nor do I ever buy anything. I just watch and read text on a screen in my cell.

(Tl; dr) Before even using fragrances, I want to make sure I smell as little as possible. I ordered antimicrobial shower cloths and a hairdryer to combat bacteria and moisture. I would like to replace my generic bodywash/shampoo with something natural and unscented that simply does the job. Do you recommend making this yourself? What ingredients do you use?

A bit of an aberration in that trend occurred today when a video (https://youtu.be/bjrg1NhJurU?si=UiBWBoby3GJuxlcS) came across my youtube recommendations and I had an intense desire to try and remove all possible scents and odors on my person. I want to smell like nothing. Perhaps, as a prerequisite to start experimenting with fragrances, but I can do that later. It seems that the fundamentals are in managing bacteria growth and moisture. If you can scrub the bacteria off (with special attention to skinfold areas such as behind the ears, the underarms, the groin, etc) in the shower, and if you can dry off perfectly after exiting the shower, then you can be certain that you have mitigated your personal body odor as much as possible. For all this time, I just lathered myself with my hands and a generic bodywash/shampoo, and I dried off haphazardly, so it follows that I have B.O.. I shopped around just now for a pair of antimicrobial shower cloths to really scrub the hell out of my body with.

I want to make my own natural surfactant to work with this new scrubbing cloth that I purchased. Apparently, there is little difference between generic soaps and bodywashes to dish soap, which kind of perturbs me. I know I could shop around for ingredients and follow someone's already established work online, but I bring this question to you because I trust that someone in this olfactory hobby has strong opinions that I could benefit from hearing.

>>18781151
Knowing mainstream and luxury brands are more often than not connected to Luciferian and/or Saturnian worship, I’m genuinely curious what these occultists think their master smells like or if this is some token of worship.

>>18781421
>making things up in your head
take your meds
>>18781432
>"gasoline/leather jacket" opening.
I find that's kind of a meme, it's just a very ozonic leather to me, I was actually disappointed that I didn't get the gasoline note

>>18781480
The morning star is literally Christ (Rev 22:16), Isaiah 14:12 refers to satan's fall from grace rather than his current status. The star of dawn, the sunrise in the east and whatnot are symbols of Jesus
But the people behind Liquides Imaginaires are probably edgy fags who don't know that and believe it does refer to satan anyway

>>18781478
You sound unwell. The foulest smelling bacteria is the fast growing bacteria that appears right after you scrub your balanced bacteria away. Fortunately this is not the place to avoid stinking, we want to make ourselves stink with fragrance here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sKGnvlANDI
Tell me you're not spending thousands on perfumes, only to wear Tide on your clothes, right /frag/?

>>18781501
i love prada lhomme leau desu

>>18781499
I just have detectable body odor, I'm not sick or anything and there's no particularly rancid bacteria smell, but my goal is to wipe the slate clean and get as unscented as possible before I start trying to use any scents. I might want to stink with fragrance but I do not want to stink with a hybrid fragrance formed with body odor that I'm too accustomed to smelling to perceive myself.

>>18781501
This is also of great interest to me. Right now I just have normal detergent, which has its particular scent.

>>18781495
>I find that's kind of a meme, it's just a very ozonic leather to me
yeah, that's why I put it in quotes. It's commonly understood to smell like gasoline. I know it's just violet leaf but I dislike the scent regardless.

>>18781528
Have you tried the Parfum?
For me, it replaces the "gasoline" with a denser, sweeter/boozy accord.

Personally I like the gasoline/violet leaf of the EdT as is, but the Parfum is closer to something more "generally likeable".

>>18781522
I mean unwell mentally. Everyone wears perfume regularly. You don't need to nuke your body.

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>>18781522
How much of a cleansing do you need, just take a shower and get clean sheets/clothes. Talk about over-complicating simple hygiene.

Thoughts on Vibrato Sospiro?

>>18781534
>I mean unwell mentally.
Well that's a blanket statement as a rule I expect everyone on the internet to self-extrapolate from and then project onto others, and so kinda redundant.
>You don't need to nuke your body.
What do you mean?

>>18781562
>How much of a cleansing do you need
Removing bacteria and then drying off as much as practically possible.
>just take a shower and get clean sheets/clothes
You can have "cleaned" clothes that still have Moraxella osloensis in them
>Talk about over-complicating simple hygiene.
Well you learn simple fundamentals, sure, bathe in a riverbank and use clay as shampoo, we can all understand that, but I want to refine my fundamentals over time. If I was friends with someone who was trying to troubleshoot a problem, which I knew of areas he could narrow in on to accomplish his goal, then I would thoroughly share with him the information that I think he could act upon.

>>18781531
>Have you tried the Parfum?
Yes. I like its opening. It has enough of the violet leaf so that it's still Fahrenheit, but it thickened it up too much in the drydown. The original was very airy. It was powerful, not forceful. The parfum is standard 2010s and onward "BeAsTmOdE!" bullshit.

I accept that Fahrenheit is a brilliant composition that just doesn't agree with me. It is what it is. Good for appreciation, not for wearing.

>>18781586
Nuking means removing everything your body uses to protect you like the bacterial layer in your skin.

>>18781497
The star in the east was a Biblical demon and the specific shape/symbolism used in Christmas imagery for that star is the star of Venus or Ishtar. She is also the morning star. Christians worship a lot of mesopotamian occultism.

>>18781613
Well no I would not want to remove every last bacteria on my skin, but I would want to remove as much bacteria responsible for body odor as possible. So no I would not want to nuke my skin, just clean it very thoroughly.

>>18781640
In the Christian context, the Morning Star, or the Latin word for it, "the light bringer," in reference to Satan, was from the comparison to the king of Babylon, where they mockingly referred to the ruler's presumed title (he called himself The Light Bringer). Babylon recurs many times in the Old Testament in what is now viewed in as a allegory for the excesses and vanity of worldliness, but it is understandably in opposition to God.

Its relation to Ishtar and witch covens is about as associated as its relation to Aphrodite, which is just as relevant to its association with the unpersonified, uncompromising, masculine 'force' tied to military action as described in the Mawangdui Silk Texts and the Shiji. I'm sure the Australian Aboriginals and the Mezoamericans had their own ideas. Human reason will find association with astrological phenomena.

It turns out, Venus is just a planet, and it's one that would be particularly identifiable in the night sky especially to ancient people familiar with looking up at the cosmos, and it ended up being the herald of Christ's birth. We get it wrong commonly when we refer to it as the north star (due to the north star's role in navigation), but the wisemen actually followed the Morning Star.

I would not take it so far to say that Christians, or those wisemen, were worshiping the planet Venus itself or any foreign deity that it would have represented to them. I think, just for your own reference, you would find it interesting to know that Christians worship the Christian God, which to them is eternal, all-powerful, and all-benevolent. If they worshiped anything else, they wouldn't really be Christians.

id rather read nicolai vs naxos guy than religious shit desu

>>18781640
Retarded, theologically illiterate post

>>18781720
So is your Bible considering it refers to both Christ AND his enemy Lucifer as the same thing, and the Morning Star that predates them, who was universally worshiped as one of the central most powerful gods was Ishtar. She became Asheera, consort of El, then erased entirely. El that became the Biblical God is also interchangeable with Bal, also equated to Satan/Lucifer at some points. There’s no consistency to the Christian belief system, it borrows on earlier mythology from the same region.

After rain night, sprayed Guerlain AA Rose Amira.
I like it, but feel it produces a somewhat similar feeling to Patchouli Ardent. Too camphorous.
I like that in patchouli ardent, think its weird in rose amira. Are all the Absolu Allegoria like this?
A rose heavy recommendations for autumn nights?

>>18781582
slop

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>>18781692
+1 desu

sotd: Nicolai Week-End in Normandy

I love Kouros and want Kouros that's even more Kouros but idk what that would be.

>>18781745
No idea what frags I'm staring at but it looks visually appealing
>>18781733
Why

>>18781766
>Why
Tygar clone for Tygar price, shit concept, packaging and influencer hype

>>18781770
Sure but Vibrato performs a lot better and you can find it on discounters for almost half the official price, while I have never seen Tygar marked down before.

>>18781854
whatevs, feel free to buy overpriced clone sloppa

>>18781582
>>18781854
You seem to have already come to a conclusion regarding it, why do you care what we think?

>>18781724
>confident babbling about surface-level history channel tier takes
yawn
take a theology class

>>18781874
I wanted thoughts on the scent not fucking "it is masstige therefore it is bad" bullshit
Guess I should stick to discontinued animalistic bad smelling frags to impress you guys

>>18781892
don't sweat it, refer to the seething answers this >>18781168 got

SOTD Amouage Honour man. It's growing on me.

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Suggestion on this?
I heard it's a good daily driver, especially for work where you're in close proximity with people.

>>18781909
I can't fucking smell it
Same for things with a lot of ambroxan, ambrocenide, calone, cetalox, javanol, etc
Fucking sucks

Really like Eau Sauvage EDT but it lasts like 30 minutes. Is the parfum better?

>>18781918
>parfum
good but imo it's quite different (the parfum is closed to NYI or BdP)

Did I do the right thing blind buying Jicky EdP (2021) for around $75? I heard it's already been discontinued and considering the fact that it's supposedly a staple in perfumery, I decided why not pull the trigger on it.

>>18781934
It's never getting discontinued, you got tricked by fomo.

>>18781088
it's a flat version of Ambre Nuit. They lifted the construction and almost the bottle. Ambre Nuit itself is not particularly good or interesting. It's a clean rose amber with a vague green apple opening. it's 'fine' for old women and shit for middle eastern men and the children who buy these fucking knockoff frags.

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>>18781168
absolutely, but you have to be a little more specific because there's a million ways to go in terms of primary smell and price point.

1) Bosca Vanilla Forte is a Guerlain frag that you can pick up on discounters for about 100. I claim it's unisex, but the top is a bit fem. It's an excellent woody vanilla that pops at the top with fresh vanilla mandarin and comes down to a warm woody vanilla. Really pleasant and inviting and lively/youthful but has a good woody base to it so I think anyone can wear this. Plus, I think it's based on the best vanilla frag of all time (Spiriteuse Dbl Vanille) so it's built the same way.

2) Fico di Amalfi - Slightly sweetened figs and citruses up top and very clean. If LV shit this out a year ago every influencer on tik tok would be glazing the fuck out of it, but because it came out a while ago there's nothing to sell. This frag is easily better than 85% of the LV line.

3) Cremo Vintage Suede - It's like someone combined Tom Ford's Ombre Leather and Tuscan Leather. It's smooth suede with a pop of raspberry at the very top and soft florals in the body. It turns into "cream of leather" like 30 minutes in. Really nice interesting smell and it's like 25$ on amazon.

4) Polo Red EdT - I mention this a much as possible. The first Red was the best because it was the only one that leaned into both cranberry AND coffee. Amazing frag that no one gives a fuck about composed by the head at Tom Ford when that house was making nonstop hits.

>>18781976
>the best vanilla frag of all time (Spiriteuse Dbl Vanille)
I see this hyped a lot but it's too expensive
Is it the same kind of non-sweet, realistic bourbon vanilla as in Babycat?

>>18781981
no absolutely not. I dislike Babycat. I think it's a cloying sweet frag made for modern women. The 'vibe' of Dbl Vanille is much closer to Tuxedo, but Dbl Vanille is made a decade before with a noticeably different set of backing notes. I just sprayed Dbl vanille and Tuxedo Patchouli on my arm and it's Dbl: Warm spices and wood next to a burning fire; noticeably warm and immediately vanilla woody. Tuxedo: immediately vanilla + vegetal patchouli and rum; darker and greener and fresher. Neither is similar to the leather sweetness of Babycat. I would highly recommend at least getting a decant because you'll use that decant up immediately. You can wear Dbl Vanille basically anywhere (even the gym if you don't give a fuck)

>>18781986
Thanks anon
>You can wear Dbl Vanille basically anywhere
Doesn't it get cloying in the summer?

>>18781987
Any fragrance can be cloying at any point anywhere.
>Summer
that's the season when most people are inside with some kind of air conditioning. If you're in Europe just spray a little less. I like it in summer; the heat helps the spice notes pop more. I would be more nervous in the Winter when everyone is inside with all the windows closed and the heating turned on. Spray less at THAT point so you don't bother people.

>>18781965
>flat version of ambre nuit
>way different notes
>bottle closer to ysl private line

>>18781987
Not really. It's a dry, boozy vanilla, not a sticky sweet vanilla.

>>18781168
does my collection count as old man? I have:
>Terre d'Hermes EDT
>Dior Homme Parfum
>H24 EDT
>Eau des Baux
>Serge Lutens Ambre Sultan
>Encre Noire a l'Extreme
>JeP Neroli Intense
>Eau de Rochas Homme
>Cerruti 1881
>Lalique Pour Homme

I think it's 1881 and Lalique bringing the unk score up

>>18781765
maybe Rien? that's heavily Kouros inspired

>>18781918
the parfum is really different
I don't think there is a super well lasting version of this DNA. could try Boucheron Pour Homme, not the same but a strong performer in this vein

>>18781918
>>18781924
agreed, the parfum is a heavier fragrance. I would rather wear NYI over it though desu, or even Lalique Pour Homme

>>18782000
nice digits fren
>does my collection count as old man?
add NYI for true uncmaxxxing
jokes aside, that's a great collection for a serious guy (only strange if you're under 25), maybe get something edgy/weird/fun to round it out but that's it

>>18782005
could get fat electrician....

>>18781934
>>18781953
$75 still sounds like a decent price, but I don’t know what Jicky sells for normally.

>>18782000
The H24 is a bit of an outlier, but otherwise it’s premo adult male frags. If you choose to consider this a bad thing, that’s your choice, but they’re all pretty good even if not your typical young crowd pleasers.

>>18782007
Humorously accurate.

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>>18781449
CDNIM is not Aventus clone, it's Aventus killer.

>>18782007
actually yes

>>18781909
you're paying $100 for a single ingredient. Not that's not an exaggeration. The genius of this line is that they sell 30 cents of fragrance to saps who don't know any better.

Here's the exact same shit, from a supply house:
perfumersupplyhouse replace this part with DOT COM and then after that put /product/iso-e-super-iff/ and I have to write all this shit out so the spam filter doesn't flag it

it's really that straightforward. A couple of marketing geniuses made a fortune off of the popularity of one chemical.

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>>18781449
>>18782076
You guys are making me want to get it
Does it smell cheap and screechy or is it actually a high quality scent?

I have never bought any perfume, just received as gifts. Those I like I kept:
-Bvlgari aqva
-Moschino forever
-Polo double black
-A ysl nuit de l'homme dupe
-Dior eau sauvage edc

Recc me a long lasting winter fragrance fraggots.

>>18782099
Grand Soir

>>18781334
This frag is based as fuck.

>>18782099
two recs for your repeating digits:
Chanel Egoiste
Bianchi Byzantine Amber

>>18782097
It smells like Aventus but the pineapple smell is not so strong.