>more people can bench 315lbs than do 25 pull upsHow hard are pull-ups, really? I never do pull-ups, but the last time I tried, I did 15 clean reps. There’s no way adding 10 more is that hard.
>chatjeetpt hallucinationsYou should pull up to a rope and hang yourself
Kys yourself op nobody cares
>>7727524425 strict pulups is near impossible unless you weigh nothing https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8Yap0Fje70Mthe data is bullshit so mitbo is one in 1000-2000 ? :D how many thousands went through military test ? and they preselected themselves to get in there in the first place 2 orders of magnitude wrong is the graphic >what about bench? bench is bullshit, it says nearly nothing about your strength much less relative strength , u get bloated idiots arching and thinking it's and "lift" meanwhile twigs can do that weight and than some in dip counting in their body weight >https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=julius+maddox+weight+bench+record+ok dipshit, but how much can you actually lock out and without using that spring from your roided tubulous trunk at the bottom? cause that wasn't a bench i won't even mention the arch - bench is bullshit he can't do one pullup nor one pushup, not one :D
>>77275244Perfect example of a chatbot will literally tell you what it thinks you want to hear and it already figured out your one of those coping "Calisthenics" bros who cant even bench 225.
>>77275676ok, show me a bench and i will telly you what is wrong with it >>7727567225 strict pulups is near impossible unless you weigh nothinghttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/8Yap0Fje70Mthe data is bullshitso mitbo is one in 1000-2000 ? :D how many thousands went through military test ? and they preselected themselves to get in there in the first place2 orders of magnitude wrong is the graphic>what about bench?bench is bullshit, it says nearly nothing about your strength much less relative strength , u get bloated idiots arching and thinking it's and "lift" meanwhile twigs can do that weight and than some in dip counting in their body weight>https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=julius+maddox+weight+bench+record+ok dipshit, but how much can you actually lock out and without using that spring from your roided tubulous trunk at the bottom? cause that wasn't a bench i won't even mention the arch - bench is bullshithe can't do one pullup nor one pushup, not one :D
>>77275676Wrong. I have seen many people benching over 300lbs, never seen someone doing more than 20 pull ups. At least clean one.
>>77275244Oh boy, it's an AI screenshot thread. Just what we need more of.
>>77275680So bench is bullshit because some people perform the movement incorrectly? What? What sort of logic is that? That's like saying driving a car is bullshit because some people crash
>>77275244Idk can they row 200lbs 25 times? What kinda question is this. Also benching might be more popular than pull ups at the gym so people are gonna be better at benching.
>>77276071he was saying bench is BS as a measure of strength as form contributes so much to it.he wasn't very clear in his wording thoughof course there is correlation between strength and bench performance, but as a consequence of form factoring in so much, there are surely lifts that are a better analogue of raw strength.
>ITT: fat powershitters seething
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>>77276134Wow that's impressive. How long has he been training for?
>>77276071>So bench is bullshit because some people perform the movement incorrectly?bitch bot gpt - do not misconstrue my argument: >>77275680>25 strict pulups is near impossible unless you weigh nothing>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8Yap0Fje70M>the data is bullshit>so mitbo is one in 1000-2000 ? :D how many thousands went through military test ? and they preselected themselves to get in there in the first place>2 orders of magnitude wrong is the graphic>>what about bench?>bench is bullshit, it says nearly nothing about your strength much less relative strength , u get bloated idiots arching and thinking it's and "lift" meanwhile twigs can do that weight and than some in dip counting in their body weight>>https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=julius+maddox+weight+bench+record+>ok dipshit, but how much can you actually lock out and without using that spring from your roided tubulous trunk at the bottom? cause that wasn't a bench i won't even mention the arch - bench is bullshit>he can't do one pullup nor one pushup, not one :D>ok, show me a bench and i will telly you what is wrong with itnot some people bot, all the people save for few newbies that injure selves in the very act of maxing out benching :D again: show me a bench bitch bot gpt, ok - make it 3 p8s and let's see it locked out :Dif it's not locked out it doesn't count right? surely? https://youtu.be/GpL2GxO3TxM?t=582doesn't countwhy i posted mitboe's pulups? cause those ARE perfect, so it is possible and mitboe has no lower body per cloomber condition so it's perfectly fine to strap 10 kilos on him and voila - 25, but that is one in few hundreds of thousands of people, unless you weigh nothing like i said: >25 strict pulups is near impossible unless you weigh nothingi was doing 35 in highschool (i thought) but then came test and teatcher said >slow down what the fuck is this ? so i slowed down and it was 18 :D
>>77275244> source: chatgpt made up statisticsIt's prob like 0.5% of the population who goes to the gym that benches 3pl8.>>77275672Bench strength correlates very well with overall upper body mass. You can arch a lot and cheat the movement but upper arms should at least be parallel at chest not bend. Bench is the king of training the upper body for pressing
>>77276164show me a bench bitch bot or shut the fuck up - what got me riled up was that maddox "lift": >>77276160>>>https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=julius+maddox+weight+bench+record+that's supposed to be fucking judged, elbows are supposed to be locked OUT! the bar is supposed to hover/touch shirt, WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT? THAT IS NOT BENCH! THAT IS NOT A REP AND IT DOESN'T COUNT! so show me a "bench" or shut the fuck up bot :D
>>77276160>>77276180
Both are extremely rare
>>77276164At my new gym I've not seen a single person do more than 2.5plates. Out of maybe 50 I've seen bench. A couple could do 3 plates at my old gym. I'd say it's 1% of gym goers, maybe 3-5% of gym regulars. Fraction of a percent of general population.
>>77275244You can do either with a default amount of muscle its simply a matter of greasing the groove multiple times a day for a few monthsThe 25 pull-ups is probably easier to achieve for people who aren't overweight though
>>77275244You can bench while being a fat fuck (might even help a bit), but pullups are massively more difficult the fatter you are. Most people are fat fucks, thus why the bench is more achievable.
>>77275244If you bench consistently and eat in a 500-700 calorie surplus every day, then even with garbage genetics, after 3-4 years you’ll be able to bench 315 lbs. You will be a fat fuck, but will do it.Doing 25+ pull-ups takes a lot of dedication. First, you need to be around 15% body fat or lower, which means 90% of people will be forced to cut and maintain that year-round. Second, you have to build muscle while not being in a surplus, which is far, far slower than eating at a +500 calorie surplus. And even if you cope with all of that, it will still take you a 1-2 years. For the majority of people it's just unbearably hard.
>>77275244It depends on bodyweight. Being able to do 25 pull-ups doesn’t mean you’ll have muscle. If you’re like close or above your weight in terms of your height in centimeters, yeah it’s hard because you have fat/muscle. 315 is pretty easy to hit if you bulk a bit then you can lean down and mostly maintain it. It took me about a year when I basically recomped at 195lbs. Now about a year and a half later I’m 181ish and can do 315 for 3-4 reps depending on the day. Just bulk and cut. It’s worth it.
>>77275244You may be genetically giftedI hope that you do not become a trooned out wog.
>>77276104What else is new
>>77275244Do zoomers just treat everything LLM tells them as truth?
>>77275244"I did 15 so I can easily do 25"This is the type of guy giving lifting advice here.
>>77275244define strict.It is trivial to add modifiers to the bench press as well. Like, close grip and 5 second pause spoto is the new definition of strict, glhf.
>>77276134he's like a ballerina, so elegant
>>77276861Pull ups really punish high bodyfat and a well rounded physique. I could do 14 pull ups at 170 pounds, at around 180 I could do 15, now at 190 I can do 14. All of my other lifts including dips have went up... But adding mass to your legs is just a direct conference.
need better cardio above 15 reps especially if you are over 25-26 BMI
>>77275244I can do eight from dead hang.I noticed my college installed four pull-up bars at the kinesiology building.It's the end of the semester and I'm only there for a two hours, but I've only seen one person use them. I do see are chalk markings every time I use them.
>>77275244I like that the clanker actually takes bodyweight into consideration when discussing bench press.
>>77277359How are male gymnasts so big?
>>77277245Indians treat Grok like a genie
I can't even do four pull-ups.It probably doesn't help that the door frame I use is too short for me to do a proper dead hang. I should hang myself from a tree or something.
>>77275672>25 strict pulups is near impossible unless you weigh nothingThis is just a cope. People don’t do pull ups because they’re hard and they’d rather just do a few lat pull downs and call it a day. Incidentally this is also why virtually everyone has fucked up shoulders from treating bench as a primary movement and then treating upper body pulling as a secondary consideration. But the reality is that 25 pull ups is quite achievable if you’re not fat and you actually practice them. Even when I bulked up to 210lbs I could still hit 25 pull ups with good form (all the way down, arms straight at the bottom) no problem.
>>77277638Video or no dideo
>>77277611Lots of gear in gymnastics.
>>77277646I’d rather not; you don’t have to believe me though. You’re only hurting yourself by making excuses to not do pull ups.
>>77277638>Even when I bulked up to 210lbs I could still hit 25 pull ups with good form (all the way down, arms straight at the bottom) no problem.If you can do 25 pull-ups at 210 lbs, you could easily do over 50 at 170 lbs, putting you in the top 0.01% of the population. That's above elite.Bullshit.
>>77275244Go try to add the 10. I usually do three sets of 12. Sometimes on the last set I see if I can to to failure instead of 12. My average when I do is 16-17. My best is a clean 18 with two more where the chin didn't go past the bar. Pull ups are really hard.
>>77275244I can do 40 pull ups clean, 405lbs bench, i'm 6'2 and have 8 inch dick.how rare am I?
>>7727524425 pull ups is stupid anyways, just do 7 weighted pull ups to failure or 0rir only a calithenics fag who gets noob gains and then cuts so he has abs would say some gay shit like that. Imagine working years to do what some lazy fuck in the gym gets from just showing up for like 6 months.
>>77278523>25 pull ups is stupid anywayswhy?
>>77278187Hmmm. I don’t think this is true. If I was 170 I would have less muscle. I do weighted pull ups a lot and I think that substantial loss of muscle would actually make things harder for me. Last time I got that light my running became much faster but pull ups felt like shit. Again, you treat pull ups like this magical thing because you’re bad at them and don’t practice them. If you did them you would realize it’s not as simple or linearly related to pure BW as you make it seem, especially if you aren’t fat.
>>77275672dog, I don't even train pull ups and for the purpose of this post, just did 18 strict ones. If I actually gave a shit, I could bang 25 strict ones without breaking a sweat within a month of training.
>>77278529Takes fucking ages
>>77278187>If you can do 25 pull-ups at 210 lbsliterally never happened bitch bot gpt xDthere were like 7 more of my posting here but u deleted em bot>>77276160
>>77278529It’s not stupid it’s decent cardio
