>>77276275

There is none. They will extract all your time, energy, youth and potential from you. Then you will die.
Maybe stop being a goody two-shoes goy mark if you don't want this universal trajectory to become your life path.

>>77276279
The point is not going hungry or without shelter. And if you have a good job you collect toys and go fun places and build financial security till you dont need to work. Im only going to semi retire and work on my little farm.

>>77276517
You're dumb, so you THINK that's how it's gonna go down for you.

>>77276534
K dyel

>>77276517
>collect toys
NGMI

Well why didn't you become a personal trainer? Others really do the work

>>77276534
would it be better to KNOW you’ll never get any of that because you NEET without a safety net?

>>77276275
You can try living off grid and surviving. Of course you will never workout ever again if you do this.
Or you can stop being such a pussy and just work for a living and live a normal life where you can actually do shit you want to do.

>>77276275
>>>/biz/
>>>/diy/

>>77276534
Why are zoomers so blackpilled on this? I genuinely believe 75% of white-collar workers could safely retire before their 55th if they made the right decisions right from the start of their careers. I'm thinking
>not buying vanity items and/or 'toys' ("trendy" clothes/electronics/furniture/food)
>minimizing your subscriptions, loans and credit (get a car you can pay for by cash, never finance)
>investing part of your income monthly, ESPECIALLY in the beginning of your career
>being assertive enough to either ask for a raise or change jobs every so often.

Of course, things are different when you're in debt from 3 studies or you're a single mom with 3 kids, hence why I said 75% of white collar workers.

>>77276540
Get off your computer. Go outside.

>>77276556
its just literal retards who think like that. They make poor financial decisions as well as any decision and cant understand why their life sucks. For this case you can literally bring water to the horse but the horse will run away from it.

>>77276544
Not OP but I’ve looked into becoming a personal trainer and it sucks. 90% of your clients will be old or fat and you will make around $35k to $60k per year while having to maintain an active social media presence because you are constantly hustling for new clients. I’d rather play around on my phone in an office for triple the paycheck and workout in my free time.

>>77276517
you won't do shit larpsteader

>>77276572
You can earn decent money doing it, but if your crappy office job I high paid I guess you haven't got as much as an incentive. Old and fat doesn't bother me, you're not rounding up people to give oral sex to. To me that would be way more fun and way more interesting that sitting in a Chair all day every day

>>77276579
at least employed people can have choices in what they want to do in life. unemployed people will always have to just survive with no vacation in sight

>>77276584
Sounds like you never lived alone a single day in your life. Every adult who makes less than 40k a year always regret not taking school seriously.

>>77276590
Living alone? What's that got to do with anything. Also not sure how we moved onto success, it's about job satisfaction, you can be unsuccessful or successful at either

>>77276606
The bills you pay greatly affects how much you will actually hate your job, along with other factors, but your quality of life is dictated by your income. Its very obvious you are still living with your parents if you don't know what its like to decide if you would rather live in a dangerous area or not because of your income.

>>77276556
>Just don't live your life so you can be free at 55 when your body and mind starts to degrade
>Ignore the past 3 once in a hundred year recessions that fucked over people who did no wrong while the rich got even richer.
Jew or Boomer, call it

>>77276275
If you can't take pride in your work, you'll never be happy with your job no matter what it is.

>>77276621
>there is absolutely no way you can live a life while employed
either child or adult with middle school state of mind. Get a job loser

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I always try to frame my life as I can’t control my job but I can control my thoughts and actions. I can live beyond being a wageslave

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This is me every day. It sucks.

>>77276620
Mate you're the one who limited your earning potential, if that's your attitude it's a good thing you didn't choose that career. If you can't do well in any outside the box job then playing it safe as an office worker is for you. I'm not criticising you, you're right, you've got to do what you can make the most money in (unless the difference isn't substantial) because money is everything

>>77276638
Tell us what your day looks like?

>>77276646
You trying to compare a PT to an office worker who potentially makes anywhere between 75k to 250k makes it sound like you are a child is my point.
You obviously havent looked into what kind of career you want but let me give you this tip, white collar jobs are your best bet for high quality of life. Running your own business is also very good but only if its a good service business.

>>77276650
monday thru friday i get up at 8, leave 830, arrive at office at 9, lunch break for an hour, leave at 4, get home 440, workout until about 6 at my home gym, do whatever I want until i sleep at 1130. Weekends I do whatever. I get 25 vacation days, I usually save them up for winter to spend 3 weeks off work with my family. The other week I pair them with holidays or company holidays to try to get longer consecutive time off. I buy whatever I want on a monthly basis since my income is at 120k atm. If i want to switch jobs I take about 1 month off and spend the next 3-6 months searching for a new job.
What can you do with no money as an unemployed?

>>77276656
Not sure why you think up to 250k is normal for most people. If that's the case an office job is great, the amount of fun to be had in weekends and time off will definitely make the deal sweet. How much do you make?
You speak in a very sensationalist manor, maybe you should become a YouTuber if you do well you could make way more

>>77276673
>maybe you should become a YouTuber
Terrible idea. I work in tech btw, least amount of schooling needed with highest amount of pay at the end. Dont believe the retards who did the bare minimum and cant land a job.
Trying to become a content creator is harder than trying to be a professional athlete in my opinion. You really do sound like a child at this point if that was your suggestion for career.

>>77276662
I asked you what your day looks like, not your life in general. With those comprehension skills I doubt you've got a good position.
Even so that doesn't sound too interesting. Living life is subjective though, I've a feeling OP had a slightly different lifestyle in mind. But if that's living the life! And the best life. Can possibly get just keep on enjoying chief, that's good.
And about me being unemployed, I wish

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>>77276680
KEK

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>>77276685
>trying this hard

>>77276557
Thanks my nigga I just took a 40 minute walk and filmed some content while I was at it. Now imma go back outside to work on my laptop and make some phone calls. WAGMI.

>>77276690
Mate it's your life, jesus

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>>77276778
>still trying this hard

>>77276784
What has gotten into you? I was just trying to explain where we crossed wires. None of this really matters though haha

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I've never worked. I live with my parents. I'm 28

>>77276275
I would kill for a job like this.

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>>77276794
>trying this hard STILL

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>>77276806
Ok buster,ya got meh

>>77276556
>if they made the right decisions
Theres the caveat. The average person is a fucking moron. The system they’re in is designed to trap them as quickly as possible for as long as it can. Alot of people fuck their lives up royally before they’ve even turned 30.

>>77276804
it's over

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>>77276534
Go back to /R9K/ with your blackpill demoralization bullshit. Fuck outta here.
>>77276534
I'm am LITERALLY living at my countryside home as I read your retarded message.
>>77276517
Spot on assessment.

>>77276682
you got told about their day thoughbeit. You seem like you're trying incredibly obtusely to misinterpret the other person, to the point of incoherence.

>>77276804
What exactly are your plans for when they old and need your to care for them? What are your plans when they are gone and their income is no longer there to support you and you have ZERO skills or knowledge to get employed with?

>>77276682
Why don't you tell us what your average day looks like? Oh, and while you're at it, what's your net worth/age?

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>>77276810
>trying THIS hard still

>>77276682
imagine being this happy about being broke. you are an absolute loser anon

>>77276852
When did I say I was poor? When did I say I was happy?
You assume a lot. And I'm the one invested in this? Kek

>>77276857
>When did I say!?!
The rest of us are intelligent enough to infer meaning from written language. You should work on your communication and reading comprehension skills, anon.

>>77276540
Yeah. Toys. You know, like boats, 4 wheelers, motorcycles, machine guns, golf clubs. Toys.

>>77276873
You're an angry man

>>77276880
>>77276873
I prefer this anon

>>77276275
I'm 33 with only 50k in the bank and unfortunetly this past two years and going im doing some gig works on the weekeneds (filming) and some editing during the week and i make around 1.5k a month on average. The problem is that some gigs pay less but i still go just to fill my hours on the weekends because i have depression if i stay home too long. The problem tho with filming weddings is i get 400 euros for 14 hour filming but it takes me 2 days to recover after that.

Any tips? Should i just stop working and just become a neet and just play vidya all day? When it was off season earlier this year I would PPL 5-6 days a week and get huge and now i get to lift like x4 per week max my sleep has gone to shit because of the stress. The only positive stuff is that i meet a lot of women that can potentially be my gf if i lock in. Thoughts?

>>77276883
at least he is an angry man with money. get a job loser

>>77276893
im surprised you even have that much money doing gig work. every person I met that does any sort of gig work are all poor as shit. Although 50k can buy you some time to do nothing, it wont be enough time to actually try to do a career switch. Unless you can get someone to look after you for a while, I would suggest you do a career switch.
You will never be happy if you dont have money, that is the number 1 rule in life. I dont care what anyone says, you got no money and everything just becomes depressing.

i used to think i was doing well earning like $50k at 27 years old in a median cost of living state, I've been doing this for 5 years and I've managed to save and invest to about $80k now, I also have a gf so life isn't bad, but I work an office job and I felt bored with life and kind of a "is this all there is" mindset settled in. I joined the elisha long's (the retardmaxxing guy) mens group to ask for advice

they all seem like chad guys but the advice was just insane, they all acted like stable jobs were gay and for cattle and a pysop and though any office guy should quit asap and spend all day doing whatever he felt like doing (not including drugs) and that's living, and money didn't matter, and to not worry about money or stability because that's feminine, and money will come but even if it doesn't, if you stay fit and social you'll always have a roof over your head and girls all over you. I thought of us "bum-maxxing" but they didn't like that comparious and said bums don't lift and aren't social

idk it all seemed very confusing but the advice was quite extraordinary, especially to a young guy who really wants to squeeze all the juice he can out of life. They said "fuck jobs and fuck money, do what you want, work on your own desires, your gf will love you even more, people will love you, worrying about the rat race is making you a woman and depressed"

what does /fit/ think about this? should i just quit everything and buy a surfboard and become a beach bum and hit on beach girls all day? incel chuds who hate everything pls do not respond

Anyone have experience with dehydration from working in hot and humid climates? My buddy says gatoraide is too diluted and i should try some shit called "dripdrop" and "liquid iv"

>>77276921
You can try but you are going to realize that boring actually means happy life. Its unfortunate you didnt start off poor stressed about everything to realize this.
With a stable life, its really up to you to decide what you want to do. You can AFFORD to live a life you actually want. If you broke, you can't do that.

>>77276921
You’re not going to find what you’re looking for in a discord ran by the “retardmaxxing” guy

>>77276915
>im surprised you even have that much money doing gig work
It's mostly because i have been doing this for 10 years and I have got good networking and managed to average 600 euros per gig. It's not that horrible. I have even gotten a sports car and i'm around good people that can potentially give me good jobs aswell. But my equipment costed me 20k so far but i can go for 5 more years with it.

But you do think that i can start saying no to jobs with 50k in the bank? I have 300 euro rent and i ahve to buy my own groceries.

>>77276956
You gotta calculate that out yourself big boy. You need to put some adult pants on and see if investing your time into something will return something better for you and calculate if you can afford to go on without a job. Its better if you can live with someone while you are working towards something better so you can save some money but you really need to put on your adult thinking cap on and plan this out yourself.
You can either believe in yourself based on what you know you are capable of or keep doing what you are doing because you know you are just bullshitting yourself.

>>77276974
>see if investing your time into something will return something better
I don't even know what else to do. I was always in the free lance industry.

> Its better if you can live with someone while you are working towards something better
I live next to my parents actually, but im 33 so you know time is running out

>You can either believe in yourself based on what you know you are capable
based

The guy I know who has banged the most and hottest women is one of the vanlife guys who renovated a sprinter and drives it around to either do lame restaurant guitar gigs or bartending stuff

And he's not even fit and hes in his mid 30s.

>>77277174
So hhwwat?

>>77277174
>vanlife
i honestly feel bad for people who live like this. constantly having to find a place to park and take a shit must get so tiresome

>>77277195
Worst part is cooking and cleaning cookware. Just having a washing machine for clothes is a game changer in life even if you had an apartment.

>>77276275
I just saved my money and invested it.

I retired at 34, so no more wage cucking for me.

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>>77276921
all of that advice is built on the foundation of having an income that lets you do that. they're saying "fuck money, do what you want" because they either all already have jobs that pay enough, have enough savings, or have someone else bankrolling them to let them do that. there's merit to the argument that more money doesn't guarantee a happier life, but that's usually made from the perspective of someone who is already comfortable saying that chasing numbers to make bigger number won't fulfill you, which is true. but no one is truly living life if they're constantly worried where they're going to sleep or where their next meal is coming from, which is what can happen to you if you don't take your income seriously.

you can do that fuck-it lifestyle if you want, but at the end of the day, you have to be able to afford food and a place to live. 90% of people are just looking for a job that lets them accomplish that without making them want to kill themselves. if you can find a job that lets you do that, you're better off than the vast majority of people alive.

i'm not saying to just shut up and accept your job for what it is, but the "there has to be more to life" ennui you're feeling doesn't necessarily have to be fulfilled by your job. if you've got a stable job, stable income, with savings and interest in investments accruing, it sounds like you can afford to take trips to places you want to visit, or take up new hobbies you're interested in, or go to events or shows you want to see. in that way they're not wrong in saying that pursuing your own desires and goals is important. if you're not feeling accomplishment or fulfillment from your job, seek it elsewhere. your job doesn't have to be your everything. you're young. you've got time to try things.

>>77277223
>retiring at 34 with investments

did you get lucky with crypto?

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>work corporate job
>constantly stressed and even when I get home all I think about is all the shit i have to do at work the next day and that week
>don't even really do anything in my evenings, just shitpost and doomscroll because i'm too depressed to do anything else

I was actually so much happier working retail, at least with those sort of minimum wage jobs your work genuinely stays at work and doesn't mentally follow you home

I seriously want to become a janitor or a bricklayer or something, just anything where there's no "projects" or deadlines

>>77277305
If you make the right decisions you'll only have to keep doing that until you turn 55

Everyone on 4chan works a white collar job, usually remotely, making 150-250k a year or more

>>77277378
And they're 6'4 and could bench 3pl8s within 6 months of training

>>77277378
I used to work remote but only for lime $48k and they made me come back to the office

>>77276275
Well why did you get fit in the first place? I'm doing it to live longer and better and there's zero chance I'm going to spend that extra life doing shit I don't want to do. I'm getting strong so I can learn to live and survive on my own since that gives me some sort of security. If I just wanted to be a wageslave or living off of welfare I'd be a fat slop eating myself to death while popping pills. Being fit in and of itself doesn't matter.

is there anything more humiliating than being a /fit/ wagie?

>for most of history, we would've been warriors leading an army into battle or the alpha of the tribe of caveman because of our physical prowess
>because we live in an industrialized, currency-based society and need to earn made up tokens to eat we're at the bottom of the pecking order

>>77278154
Im pretty happy not to be getting my guts ripped out for my overlord. Youre probably a weak faggot who doesnt go outside anyway. The same faggot who thinks jail is nothing, but had never had to sleep on a piece of steele.

that sucks
got a myself a decent job at a hospital
great flexibility and more than enough time for friends & hobbies

>>77278154

>for most of history, we would've been warriors leading an army into battle or the alpha of the tribe of caveman because of our physical prowess

You can still do those.Join the military in some capacity or become a professional fighter or athlete.
If you can't, itd because you were never that guy to begin with.
> golly, I'm really progressing on these calf raises. In ye olden days I would totally have been a viking chieftain!

>>77276921
Honestly my biggest gripe is not having enough time off. I'd say 12 weeks a year of vacation would be the minimum for me to really do (some) of the stuff I want. I hate having to squeeze a bunch of shit into my two annual one-week vacations where my gf also has shit she wants to do and before I know it the week is over and im having to stress about returning to work

3 month long vacations a year would be great but no job I know of would allow this except being self employed of some kind

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Life is so comfy for me right now.
Go to IT college 3 days a week, play runescape between breaks, spend the rest of the week working out, playing videogames, do hobbies when I feel like it, fuck my anime sex doll.
It's gonna suck when I graduate and have to get a job and all my free time is gone. That is if I can even land one.
I'm living in my golden years, It's all downhill from here.

>>77276275
God damn you pussy faggots have had easy lives if you think working 40 hours a week in an office is some intolerable tragedy.
It's a pretty good trade off for having clean water, food, shelter, electricity, healthcare, being able to travel, being able to retire, etc etc.
If you worked construction and saw how much effort actually goes into building society you wouldn't be crying. If clicking on a computer 8 hours leaves you too exhausted to do things after work you are weak and pathetic and it can probably be fixed by eating better and getting some pussy. Go survive in the woods without society's help if you think you're a "slave". You'll be back in no time.

>>77278154
You would be a warrior with like swamp ass trudging 40 miles and then u have to set up fortifications and dig fucking trenches all night, and u smell like shit, ur food is shit and u will die tomorrow as u do ur pre battle shit pants and piss urself until adrenaline takes over I'd just be drunk constantly

>>77276275
>4channers attempts to cry out to God for cohesive meaning:
>We used to be warriors leading into battle now we are pussies
>Women used to be subservient and supported the man as God intended
>Normies are retarded they are not like us >Jewish people are the secret enjoyers and beneficiaries of capitalism
>There is a lookism ranking system and Chad is the secret enjoyers and beneficiaries of it.
>Trad christlarping because you are obsessed with women but instead enjoy shaking your fist at them through prohibition. (Still a message to your god)

Notice how all of these are attempts to establish that there was a "right" way or is a "right" and correct structure or someone or some group running things behind the scenes. All of your insecurities are like "someone or something must be running this shit there must be a cohesive narrative of some kind"

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>>77278555
Construction is full of incredibly stupid and inefficient retards who make big messes that require constant effort to go back over and correct, in addition to other retards that plan poorly and over promise on deadlines and generally have no clue what theyre doing. Building things is actually pretty straightforward and thus easy, you take it slow and one step at a time. People build or renovate entire homes by themselves as a relaxing hobby, only retards have to grind at things. Get off your high horse.

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>>77278555
fully agreed. all i have done this week is machine sanding the hull of a 65ft princess, 7 hours a day. you office faggots dont know how easy you have it. aint nuthin but a hound dog.

>>77278235
If you dont get your act straight and actually use your school as a tool to find a job, you gonna be really miserable trying to pay student loans off making near minimum wage. IT is by far the easiest tech job to land next to QA analyst. If you aiming low and still missing then yes, this is the best your life is going to be.

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>>77278737
Next year is my third, which is when I have to lock in and apply to any job posted by the school.
Also, the school was cheap, so I won't have any debt.
I hope you're right and I land something. Hopefully it's laidback too.

>relatively chill office job (~70% wfh) that pays semi-decently
>another job (100% wfh) that probably takes an hour a day on average and sometimes nets me up to 40% of the salary from my regular job on a good month
>minimalistic home gym (plates, pullup bar, rings, back extension bench, dumbbell, resistance bands)
I probably shouldn't complain too much to be honest

>>77278745
>I hope you're right and I land something. Hopefully it's laidback too.
Please dont interpret that as IT being an easy job to land in general. Im saying its easiest out of the other fields since you don't have to know anything about software development or architecture. I honestly have no idea what IT even does other than setting up computers and a network.

>>77278828
They maintain those computers and networks and fix your stupid scan to sharepoint when it breaks twice a day

>>77276556
I managed to convince two new grad hires who are living at home still to /investmaxx/ as much as they can. The girl, who has fantastic titties, is on track to be a millionaire by 35, and the guy by 40. Assuming no giant market crashes, that is.

>>77279655
Great to hear that some big tittied beautiful girl will be a 35 year old millionaire.

>>77278154
so why did you choose to be a wagie instead of an alpha?

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>>>/biz/

>>77279667
Mald

>>77276556
I can tell you dont know what youre talking about with the dumb "buy a car in cash" advice. If you have cash sitting around, you always invest it and finance whatever you can dummy. Yes cars are depreciating assets but some depreciate WAY less than others

You
>have 5k in cash
>buy a junker outright with it
>at the end of 5 years, it breaks down or is otherwise worth nothing, because a $5k car is trash
>your 5k is now reduced to zero

Me
>have 5k in cash
>invest it
>finance a 30k tacoma at 5% interest
>at the end of 5 years, its paid off. I paid a total of 33k-ish
>I sell it for 27k
>my original 5k in the market is now 8k
>my 5k is now reduced to only 2k

I managed to retain 2k more than you and I got to drive a decent vehicle during that time too. There are a lot of things that work this way with finance. Similar to how unaware people are to only buying real estate in the fastest/most appreciating area of your state over the last decade. Yes it might also be the most expensive area, but it will have the highest ROI