It can't just be DHT storming into your scalp with no apparet reason, can it?
>>77278350No, that is 2 shrimple; lots of autistic downstream cytokines from DKK-1 to CXCL-12 are also involved.
>>77278350Ignore the mentally ill biosharter shilling his snake oil. It's simply a trash diet + stress for most people. Of course there's people who are predisposed to lose it all no matter what but it can be easily be prevented
>>77278350Damn I'm at grade 2/3 of the bottom line. 33yo. Should I wait before going to Turkey?
>>77278350I'm 99% sure it's related to blood flow there somehow, because the male baldness pattern is exactly on the area that theoretically has the least exposure to freshly oxygenated blood because of gravity. But I don't have the money to fund a comprehensive research about it and millionaires just settle on a hair transplant and call it a day instead of actually trying to solve the root issue.
>>77278350Well, finasteride stopped my recession in its tracks, so it must be.
Latest research has implicated metabolic issues, fungal infections, insulin resistance, etc. Obviously DHT plays a role, but that might be just a downstream effect of some other process.
>>77278350DHT is caused by lack of bloodflow as seen by frontal cortex during lack of sleep or whenever you pinch your arteries to the musclesDHT is anti inflammatory just like testosterone isDHT in scalp is due to stretched scalp from constant looking down onto phone and laptop, or in past from looking at newspapers and booksred light therapy helps a lot, and stretching the scalp
>>77278386Tgerr has already been a research on that and it has shown that balding happens where the skin is most stretched and gets the least oxygen. Not related to gravity tho.
>>77278500I've started kneading my crown scalp obsessively to the point where I can yank it up off my skull. I want to rip it off and kick the ass of those follicles for ruining my life It's definitely not the most stiff part of my scalp anymore. My crown hair didn't grow back btw
>>77278493>looking down stretches the scalp in the crown area wut
>>77278509It's not the only reason. Coupd be even several at the same time. Sometimes it's a lack of a specific element or vitamin. Sometimes fungal infection. Sometimes a tight scalp. In my case ketoconallzole shampoo, broccoli sprouts and a scalp massage saves me.Btw, you could have used a wrong technique where you were screatching the surface, resulting into a scar forming on top. But if your could achive such result, it wasn't a tight scalp at all. I have been stretching my scalp skin for over 2 years and I still can't do a pinching technique, cuz it's impossoble to grab any skin. It barely moves.
>>77278618What technique? The one from Perfect Hair Health?
>>77278618>broccoli sproutsCan I get a tl;dr on this? Been absent from balding threads for my own mental health, first time I hear of it.
>>77278350you literally don't shower enough.>no shampoo faggots spamming bullshit the moment anyone says showerchronic irritation not just from bacteria/fungi, but your bodies on scalp oil damages hair follicles.in fact your bodies oil literally has dht in it, which is why male body hair follows the natural gravity pull of sweat across the chest and into the stomach region, alongside down the back into the buttocks.You have to shower, it's not an option.FIN ain't going to save you from having absurdly high DHT concentration in sweat.>bro let me just sit here for three days working out while DHT just keeps building up on my scalpyou fucking deserve to go bald.
>>77278680>in fact your bodies oil literally has dht in it, which is why male body hair follows the natural gravity pull of sweat across the chest and into the stomach region, alongside down the back into the buttocks.By that logic shouldn't we NOT have hair in those regions because of the DHT in the sweat?
>>77278350It's literally DHT binding to two receptors on your hair follicle which kills it.
>>77278697Complete reverse of your logic, but I do like you are trying to put it together.No, body hair almost exclusively exists in the concentration of the sweat and the gravity pattern.We can follow this as such>sweat from the brow and scalp descends upon the chin naturally as the day progresses (beard growth)if you notice though that it doesn't appear on the cheeks, the nose, etc etc. while you do have sweat in this area the constant production of new sebum pushes it out and away, while the eyebrows also help push it away from the scalp to the sideburns.So now it travels down the neck in a natural pattern, the chest also sweats quite a bit and wearing clothing actually promotes this body hair more. the two mix together and begin to travel down the middle, where body hair arguably becomes the most concentrated on the stomach in male pattern until it reaches the groin. Where for most people it should be the fullest, since it is an area with little airflow and clothing holds the sweat moisture.Legs also become absurdly hairy as the groin area becomes saturated with sweat all the groins sweat has to go somewhere and basically sits on your legs all day, men also have a tendency in most studies not scrub their legs as often in the shower.Arms same logic, sweat off the shoulders goes down onto the arms constantly.Back same logic into the buttocks, where density of sweat colume often creates buttocks tufts of hair.I shouldn't have to explain this in detail m8.There is a reason male pattern hair starts at puberty when sebum increases.
>>77278531your scalp is like a hoodie made of skin, it gets pulled back when you look down it makes sense
>>77278744But are we not looking at it the other way? Didn't we retain hair on the eyebrows specifically because it was useful avoid sweat getting into our eyes and such?I've been showering every day for some 10 years now and I don't really notice a decrease in chest or body hair.Maybe it's a small increase/decrease but I'm pretty sure for most people it's 95% geneticss where and when their body hair will grow.
>>77278678Sulforaphane in general is anti inflamatory. It also works by increasing enzymes in the body (such as 3\(\alpha \)-HSD) that accelerate the breakdown and clearance of DHT at the cellular level. So I don't fuck with 5-alpha reductase (yea, dht might be a trash hormone after puberty, but I don't fuck up the productuon of neurosteroids. You don't get enough of them if you block 5-alpha reductase). My dick still works as I don't fuck with dht, but there is no buildup of it in my scalp as my body is more efficient at removing excess of it.As a secondary, green are good for you ij general. Broccoli doesn't have a lot of oxalates and is rich in nitrates. Nitrates, if you don't use a mouthwash, are turned into nitrites in your mouth and those nitrites are being used for nitric oxide, which is a vasolidator. So a better blood flow. There are many other things that sulforaphane does, like preventing diabetes and shit like that.There us no serious studies on it regarding a hairloss tho. But, in theory, it should work. Works for me.
>>77278676Yes. But I would add just buying one of those wooden hair massaging things from temu. You know the studies when they inject botox in scalp muscles and hair regrows? Your main task is not only to stretch your scalp, but also to relax scalp muscles, stretch them in they are tight. And how do you relax those tight muscles? By applying pressure on them, to the point of pain. This rewrites the neural signals to the muscle. So I press that temu massage thing to on the sides of my head, to the point of pain, and move a little bit around without any friction. Like I would massage my shoulders with a foam ball.
>>77278676P.s.: you can do that with your finger knuckles. Just be careful around the temple. You don't want to accidently kill yourself. I skip that area.
>>77278386>Baldness is because of gravityThat's probably one of the funniest things I've ever read
>>77279074I mean it's the simplified version, but basically because of gravity I imagine the skin at the top of the head is pushed and stretched downwards over the skull more than any other part of the body.If you put a cloth on top of a bottle, the highest surface/tension area is the top, same thing. Of course it's just a theory and I haven't done any research to prove it, but it's not some new thing I came up with, gravity and body position is connected to a lot of potential health issues.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15551157/
>>77280023Doesn't exaplin a bit why women don't go balt. Doesn't explain why there are widow peaks.
>>77278350Do you just kill yourself when you become bald? Genuinely how do you cope? You will never be attractive to young women ever again
>>77280145Well yeah like I said I don't know how it works, I'm just saying it's suspicious how hair on the sides is never affected by MPB. For example another thing I noticed is that hair on the sides seems to grow faster than hair on the top (at least for me, so it's just anecdotal evidence) which could theoretically also be explained by the higher access to oxygenated blood.
