>get big muscles>can't sleep without a mask and a machine that keeps you from suffocating in your sleepwhy do people want to be big freaks? your body is literally rejecting the muscle you put on. your heart hates it.
OP probably posts here regularly. Let that sink in.
>>77279060Go read a book meathead.
>>77279058Not quite as simple. I've got an 18" neck without apnea, but over 17" is considered a risk factor. Building muscle up into the obese range is where cardiovascular mortality starts going way up like with hams.
>>77279058Those machines are for fats. Leanchads can breathe and sleep at the same time.
>>77279070We can go deeper.>Total mass independent of fitness just leads to more health problems as the heart, lungs, and liver can no longer support in a 24 hour cycle the total needs of the body>So you literally gain 1 lb of muscle mass and now your heart cannot supply the needed oxygenated blood to the brain, so even if you didn't have sleep apnea congrats you now have the exact same symptoms of sleep apnea>oh yeah now add sleep apnea ontop of that because you gain .25lbs of muscle on your chest and your lungs do not function correctly anymore in the chest cavitypeople are fucking retarded.
>>77279082Explain why pulse-ox machines say I saturate 100% on room air, then.>protip: not cardio skill issues, lots of PEDs that aren't gear
>>77279058This is Thor? Being big and strong is literally his job, bro. He probably earns a very good living from it, and I would imagine that he enjoys it, too. I would imagine that in a decade or two, he'll probably decide to drop some weight for health reasons, but for now he is living his life.
>>77279082>>77279058Ok but, you can get really fucking jacked and reasonably big before that's ever an issue. You guys are pretty much exclusively talking about roid trannies.
>>77279083None of that matters.The heart can adapt, but the stress on the heart will eventually catch up, day after day, month after month.Eventually your CNS will begin to slow down your body to ensure the heart can rest.The alternative is you do a bunch of uppers like Piano, Flynt, Wayne, and your heart explodes.it's not a debate m8.
>>77279063I am a very prolific reader
>>77279082Is this why musculheads are so dumb? Their brain must not even have enough oxygen.
>>77279094Post bookstack. You wont. Curious.
>>77279063Why are you here? Serious question
>>77279105One of the better shitposting boards
>>77279058Look up sleep apnea and mouth posture exercises on yourtube
>>77279091whats the ideal "healthy" amount of muscle to have then?
>>77279101That would be off topic.
>>77279167FUCKING SHIT I WISH I HAD THOUGH ABOUT THAT FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCKK
>>77279058Bane?
>>77279082>So you literally gain 1 lb of muscle mass and now your heart cannot supply the needed oxygenated blood to the brain, so even if you didn't have sleep apnea congrats you now have the exact same symptoms of sleep apneano, retard. Your heart just has to work harder.
>>77279164Your height in cm is how much you should weigh in pounds at 10 to 12% bodyfat. Perfect ideal.
>>77279082Midwit spotter. All muscles in your body pump blood. Vein have valves and when muscles are contracted, they pump blood. Muscle mass leads to a better heart health. Only excessive mass is bad. It' always a J curve.
>>77279089You will never get a sleep apnea if you are natty and not fat. Unless you have some genetic mutation that lets you gain abnormal muscle mass.
>>77279265I think 10-15% BF is arguably the best range for a man, but in regards to OP's pic, most natties will never gain enough muscle mass to get those issues. The roidtrannies pumped up with disturbing amounts of tren and HGH get the sleep apnea issues.
>>77279058Because they are extreme sports?Do you tell someone who is doing base jumping, free solo climbing, big wave surfing, bull riding etc etc to stop because it is le "dangerous"? No you don't. So why do you gotta tell bodybuilders, powerlifters and strongmen what the fuck to do with their bodies? Is it because they mog you or something and you gotta cope somehow by saying "they may lift 10 times what I lift but I am le healthy so I win!!"
>>77279058You do understand these people are roided to the gills right?Getting big muscles naturally will not affect your sleep. It will in fact actually improve it.
>>77279058I'd rather just suffocate in my sleep to be honest.
>>77279265ok thats bullshit even at my leanest im like 195 and im 177.8 cmand you didnt answer how much MUSCLE is ideal
>>77279070I'm 17.5" and snore less than my missus, is it really a risk?
