>makes you locked in at all times, gives extra motivation and drive to go above and beyond >clears brain fog, always focused>always awake, doesn't matter if you slept badly>higher pain tolerance>faster reaction time>makes you more social and confident>makes you happy>not commonly tested as PED>makes you lose weight since cuts impulsive eating>food still tastes amazing, maybe even more so since you're immersed in the meals you choose to eat>zero side effects after 2 weeksWhy aren't you all in on the miracle drug anon?
my shit is proven to do all this too, suck on that, shill
>>77282504>Why aren't you all in on the miracle drug anon?Because it wrecks your brain and cardiovascular system long term. I have been prescribed it in the past but chose to quit. There's no free lunch.
>>77282531You think your pre workouts and monster energy drinks don't? How about your fast food cheat meals? Smoking and alcohol? Stop being a pussy.
>>77282554>You think your pre workouts and monster energy drinks don't? How about your fast food cheat meals? Smoking and alcohol?Where did I say I believe that? Also, if you have only been taking Vyvanse for two weeks, I can understand why you feel that way. Do you still get 8 hours of sleep?
>>77282554The things you listed don’t make your resting heart rate 95bpm all day long.They also don’t suppress your appetite and make you anorexic and turn you into a robot.Vyvanse sucks, all adhd meds suck.You sound weird and obsessive and freakish because you’re probably on it
>>77282600>You sound weird and obsessive and freakish because you’re probably on itHe's on it, and has only been on it for two weeks, so he's still in the honeymoon stage.
>>77282504>develop schizophrenia
>>77282856More like alzheimers
>>77282504These apparent upsides also lead straight to addiction, exhaustion, tolerance buildup, alienation, and errors of overconfidence. Whole days might pass in which you think you're achieving something but are just tweaked up and spinning your wheels. I take Adderall and have benefitted from it (ADHD) but you're fooling yourself if you think there's no trade-off. At the very least, be extra cautious if you're going to work out on amphetamine, you can easily push yourself too far and get hurt.>>zero side effects after 2 weeksThe vegans say the same and are not wrong.
>>77282531>>77282587thesei have about 4 months worth of vyvanse stacking up in my drawer. saving it for a cut. enjoy the first 3 months OP, it's truly great then. but i strongly advise you at least cycle it.
Amphetamines feel fucking horrible. The restlessness is unbearable. I started smoking when I got prescribed them cause of it and it was a bitch to quit afterwards.
>>77282504Cold showerIt gives you the same level of adrenaline as taking 40mg of Adderall for 15 minutes. Then the adrenaline drops and the dopamine rises gradually. It's the equivalent of taking 5mg of Adderall IR in terms of the dopamine rush. I find cold showers better because Adderall can prevent the deep sleep phase, which is super important for recovery. I like that after my workout I switch into parasympathetic mode, and don't stay in sympathetic mode.Music boosts my performance more than amphetamines anyway.
>>77282504just take preworkout. illcit pres do the same job if not better.
>>77282504you should take 3 or 4 of them and jork it all night, breh
>>77282504what do you have to do to convince the doctor to prescribe this? ADHD ?I think I do genuinely have ADHD and need this or adderall anyhow
>>77284138tell them you've been struggling to focus at work/school and you've been having trouble staying alert later in the day. don't ask for stims directly, and appear open to trying a few of the doctor's suggested treatments. it may take you a few visits with the doctor this way.
>>77284171>>77284138also, if you know anyone who has been prescribed adderall/vyvanse as an adult, see if you can meet with the doctor that they got it from.
>>77284138Read up on the diagnostic criteria for ADHD. Tell your doctor about how you struggle to focus, and how it has always been that way, even as a child. Since you studied the criteria for diagnosis, you know how to answer the questions (you have to make sure your problems are sufficiently bad, and that you fulfill a sufficient amount of criteria).
>>77284655my honest answers even fit the criteria when I did a self test. I have a therapist that will back me up too but I have never been one of these people who seem to get the doctor to do whatever they want.
>>77285489Are you in the US? Docs just don't want to prescribe it here because it's heavily restricted and under strict production limits. There's a perpetual shortage. Telehealth is the easiest way to get these. The other way I was told is to get someone to give you some adderall. If the drug works for you then you have ADHD. If it makes you feel awful then you don't. Not sure I totally believe him but he was on ADHD meds and said that's how his wife got on them.I got wellbutrin, it's extremely mild comparatively without issue via telehealth. I do think that I actually qualify for it though and from taking it, the drug does seem right for me. It's not really meant for ADHD but it fucks with the same receptors it's just more mild and doesn't spike your dopamine.
>>77285682Uhh.. Merica! Yeah I have tried my friend's adderall a few years back and it worked that's what makes me think this is what I need. The last few years I have been really barely functioning. I have at least been able to quit drinking and lost 60 lbs and generally improved my life but I need help to level up going from average to fit and get things done. The anti depressants like wellbutrin aren't right for me I tried something like that before. I can't take anything that makes me sleep and gain weight, some of the exact problems i'm trying to get rid of.
>wake up>pop an addy>pop a snus in >chug a cuppaI know my heart will probably explode when I'm 30 but I feel like I can take on the world like this
>being on pharma jew products>having shit sleep qualityit's tried it and it's fun for a bit but overall exhausting and can't be good long term. I couldn't sleep at all on it and it made me just want to play video games all day
>>77282600yep any long time user of adhd meds will tell you the sameit's gay retard meth
>>77287131you're gimping yourself if you don't get your complementary zopiclone for sleep.And then when you get bored of it, you've got twice as much good shit to sell.
>>77287798I simply don't want to be on meds because it's no way to live. Not even worth selling for a few hundo, just threw it away.
>>77286490Sorry I didn't mean to compare Adderall to Wellbutrin. They both work on the exact same receptors but Wellbutrin is far far weaker and is meant more to gently get your brain to rewire itself rather than externally force it on and off. They aren't really for the same issue, Wellbutrin is more for when you have a hard time starting tasks or finding motivation. Adderall is for having problems focusing on a task. It is likely what is right for you. Wellbutrin isn't an SSRI though which is what makes it a great option for people who have lower motivation.
>>77287695>Gay retard methCan someone please tell me what is the straight white male meth of non-actual meth meth is?
>>77288332>8hrs sleepbalanced dietstrength training + cardiofaith, family, hobbiescareer successno tobacco, no alcohol, no drugs
>>77288344>SleepTime is finite asf. The more time I spend unconscious the lest time I get to enjoy life.The more you sleep the faster reach advanced age because how perception works.I do appreciate your stack however I want a substance that does meth effects to me without being meth.Meth immortality is very fucking real and getting there make life worth living.
>>77287849>few hundom8, you can just get an extra 10grand a year for FREEThat's a house deposit in like four or five years
>adhdmade up “condition” designed to turn young guys into junkie meff addicts
>>77288368>I want a substance that does meth effects to me without being meth.yeah so does everyone kek, unfortunately the limitless pill doesn't exist bro
>>77282504more like>makes you jerk off for 20 hours straight to the most degenerate shit
>>77288705Pretty sure it's mostly women taking it. They benefit from the appetite suppressant and they really need its focusing effects to hold their own in school.
Adderall is the greatest thing in the world, and I truly believe everyone in a 1st world country should be on it. It literally gives you the ability to do anything you set your mind to without any draw backs whatsoever.
>>77288705you can literally see it in brain scans. less blood reaches the frontal cortex.
>>77288698I already have a house though and it doesn't sell for that much here
I'm on lisodexafetamine mon-thursday 40mg, works a treat.
>>77288839Think that was the study scanning brains that also had been on adhd meds. There has been much concern recently about amphetamine related drugs possibly causing brain damage.
>>77282504dont get into adhd meds unless you truly need them and have exhausted other avenues. you will rely on it to do anything and side effects build up over years.yeah youre going to be unstoppable for the first year, then youre going to be one of those bitches on tiktok that say they have to double dose their script to be botehred to mail a professor. you just get mega burnt out. its not a fun way to have to balance your life.but hey now... its just advice... you can do whatever the FUCK you wanna do
