Wow what’s her routine

>>77284861
45

You start losing test and muscle at around 25, so if you’re not jacked by the naturally you just have to send it

>>77284868
It's 35-45 acktually

>>77284861
Never, you'll get cancer, not the best tradeoff for being a muscly gramp

>>77284868
jeet

>>77284861
Get blood work done every couple of years and if it's low and you're noticing the effects of low t then you might as well hop on. You might want to try some natty methods first though.

>>77284868
Total bullshit
>>77284907
>>77284864
Superficially true, but, resistance training puts the natural decline off for a LONG time. BUT, thats assuming you're not training like a little bitch & got good diet/recovery

>>77285055
>You might want to try some natty methods first though.
This, cause you'd be surprised, some people are really sensitive to various adaptogens. Also, of if you do proceed with TRT have them put you on enclomiphene first. Most men won't NEED full on T replacement until their much older, when your balls literally shut down. At midlife theyre just... Tapering off, enclo has shown to be just as potent as trt for lots of guys.

>>77284864
Shit I'm 47 and a literal grandpa and still feel absolutely fine without it. No PRs in a long time now because I stopped doing 1 rep maxes over 10 years ago but I've kept all my strength, got no injuries and I'm as fit as ever. Easily getting in my sets of 12 with 100kg bench, sets of 12 with 140kg squats. You can call those weak lifts but I never even see 25 year olds at the gym lifting as much as me, people on the internet always lie.

I'm gonna go as long as I can without trt anyway, if you've stayed in shape and looked after yourself you won't need it. The shitness industry is just peddling this idea that men need it after 30 to make profit, get customers for life selling that crap.

>>77284868
Bullshit, you don't have to worry about decline of any kind when you're that young unless you're a literal alcoholic or druggy

>>77285055
Never had my bloodwork done. But no signs of low test. My problem with it is that most of the dudes showing signs of low test are fat slobs who don't take good care of themselves

>>77284861
>At what age should i start TRT ?
If you don't actually need it (natural test levels over 700), then you should more consider blasting and cruising for 1-2 years more than TRT.
Special exception for if you work night shift, as that legitimately does fuck your test levels.

PUFFY

squatted 333 pounds 6x5 yesterday at 35. Testerone is a meme. if your couple hundred below or above it doesn't make any difference if natural but hey thats not going to stop dumbass kids using drugs and becoming absolutely miserable mindfucked at 24 why they look jacked in mirror but zero sex drive balls are not working and god forbid when they get close to around my age how miserable they be.

>>77285133
>333 lbs
>he uses retarded microplates
>6x5????
>your instead of you're
>thinks trt kills sex drive
>talks like a boomer despite being mid 30s
Brown behavior

>>77284868
t. roidtranny zoomer

>>77285146
If they miss a dose or towards the end of one they have mood swings energy levels worse then healthy 70 year old man approaching 80s. Considering most roid trannies are on more drugs then TRT like clavicular this is even worse. They are having a man rape them tier trauma in their heads in their 20s if they miss their drugs. Oh and they will never get on my level naturally lol.

>>77285160
>If they miss a dose or towards the end of one they have mood swings energy levels worse then healthy 70 year old man approaching 80s
Lot of speculation from someone who has never used before.
>most juicemonkeys are using drugs
ok this isn't a thread about recreational drugs though, retard.
>clavicular
had to look up who this guy is. lmfao at being into ecelebs at 35.
>man rape them tier trauma
Circular knowledge, yikes
>never get on my level naturally
You barely squat more than 3 plates. High schoolers frequently hit that. You're retarded, brownie.

>>77285159
>Waaah you have to accept the natural casino of your genetics WAAAH CHEATING!!!
Cope and seethe, you can bitch and moan or you can choose to win

>>77285178
wall of green text cope and young adult little kiddy insults. You will never get on my level naturally now go masturbate or whatever else you do to get through your day and feel like a man.

>Lot of speculation from someone who has never used before.
Theres tons of documentarys, ai and other information out there on the internet retard. You can go find videos of 20 something ripped instagram bodies kids crying cause they cant get their dick up and experiencing mood swings for yourself.

>>77285201
You literally imagine men raping you. Take this L you weak retarded faggot LMAO

>>77285202
Having a sperg melty that you are weaker then me is not going to make you feel like a man anon.

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25 is ok,after 18 i start metanabol but its no sense to use steroids before at least 24
shit i just realize i started at almost 25 now im 33 and never get off

>>77285213
>fantasizes about men raping him
>watches videos of men in their 20 talk about their cocks
lolllll

>>77285201
not really helping your man rape case by immediately telling another man to go stroke his cock. goddamn you are a fucking fag. take a lap

>>77285182
just remember the dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed

>>77284989
>the testosterone level you naturally had when you were 30 will cause cancer
Absolute brainlet, compromised by women.

>>77285315
>another steroid hater fantasizing about getting assfucked
interesting

>>77284861
>>77284868

Anything that isn't >>77285379 is wrong.

All you retards fell for astroturfed marketing by TRT clinics. Now you not only justify giving them money for the rest of your life but try to convince others to do it too.
You people will unironically stall a lift for the first time, think you've hit your natty limit or hit the age where test crashes, and immediately hop on. It's pathetic.

>>77285352
No, it's about the length of time you're exposed
I'm pulling this out my ass, idk if test is carcinogenic, oestrogen works like that though for causing breast cancer. If women didn't have menopause they'd all get breast cancer. Growth hormone can definitely cause cancer.

>>77285160
Imagine making shit like this up lol

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>>77285160
>Over 20 chemicals purposely put in water, zogchow, and the air destroying the human endocrine system. Faggots "feeling girly today", bitch tits on men, weak young men, test levels down 30% from standard, etc. "Don't counter act bro, just bro, just let it happen bro. It's natty to give in bro, you'll get grumpy"
You sound like a fucking fed retard.

>>77284861
If your testosterone levels are low, go on it. Otherwise no point.

Lots of morons ITT who have a hate boner against it for some reason. It's legal, monitored by doctors for health and side effects. It has only positive results if you actually needed it and aren't just trying to do roids legally.

Only downside is that it's expensive.

>>77285386
Not true. I jumped on TRT when I was at 800-900 levels and my test went to 1500.

>>77285421
Sad state of affairs

>>77285216
how small are your balls?

>>77285421
ruining my body to become sexually attractive to faggots is based, actually

>>77284868
kek, go watch more clavicular streams and touch grass tranny. I bet you kiss prostitutes

>>77285577
>this post isn't true because I artifically went from a healthy, naturally high level of T to an unhealthily high level of T
This is the kind of retard TRT clinics make their money on.

>>77285705
may be retarded, but I'm jacked and retarded.
stay smart and small buddy.

>>77284861
Why do you want to shrink your balls and get erectile dysfunction?

>>77284861
Who cares about that. Where can I see her bare tits?

>>77284868
Zoomers are fucking retarded. Good luck with your life you stupid fag.

>>77284861
Whoever you're hypogonadal.
For me that was 34 but I had 2 kids and was fat. TRT at 100mg woke me up and now I'm fit.

>>77284861
>plausible OP text
>coomerbait image

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>>77284861
'toe

>>77284868
you're most able to build muscle when your brain stops being a glucose hog, which is around 30-35 for whites/humans and about 15 years old for orcs/apes, so ymmv

>>77285216
you are going to have to pin for the rest of your life or you will turn into one of those ex-bodybuilder trannys with an absolutely dead cock

>>77285426
TRT is not oestrogen or HGH, it's just testosterone. And it doesn't give you cancer.

>>77286592
Nuh uh yes it does

>>77285451
Why is the solution to low T caused by exogenous substances to just replace the T and not go full schizo with water and air purifiers and expensive food?
That's like saying my oil leak is fixed because I top up the oil every morning.

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>>77285605
same as at start,have you hear about hcg natty?
>>77286432
oh no,thats sucks xD

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>>77286634
Injecting T is not the same as producing it naturally. It has radically different effects in the body, and it leads to disaster more often than not.

You're gonna age 20 years in less than 5, your nuts will shrink and turn infertile, and you're cutting your lifespan in half.
Yes, you might be able to counter these side effects with more drugs and medications, but these come with side-effects of their own resulting in an uncontrollable snowball of consequences.

If you wanna be a drug addict and pin these needles into your ass, be my guest. But don't go around misleading people into thinking that becoming a drug addict is the sensible thing to do.

>>77284861
I hit 40 this week and i feel like I am usually low T. I will get some blood test done to check.

But I wanted to know more about TRT - What are the options and what are the pros and cons?
All I heard about is Testogel which you put on your balls. Is that it or are there more options?

>>77287052
Truth. Always keep it natural.

I plan to take test after 40.

>>77287052
>you're cutting your lifespan in half.
so what you're saying is RFK jr could've lived to be 160-170 years old? Amazing!!!

>>77285540
My T was at 600 total at 60yo. Felt like shit, never recovered from training, which was helping me lose weight, but I was dragging. Bloodwork indicated my T was getting pulled down by SHBG. I TRTed to 1100. Had to scale back a little to find a low dosage of 75mg 2x per week allowed me to slowly lean out, fully recover from training, and the key indicator, I felt good. How much is enough? Enough to not feel ragged and not enough to trigger sides. I get my stuff from chang and it's cheap. My labs are frequent. I still have my hair. Do your homework. If you don't like it, sit in the corner and be an old man.

>>77287052
I am 60, I was headed for nothing good, I am now 70 lbs lighter, better cardio, feel great. Go sit in the corner and be an old fart waiting to die. As for me, I am ready to 3njoy retired life as a fit, chill, gym enjoyer.

>>77287052
>Injecting T is not the same as producing it naturally. It has radically different effects in the body,
That's because most people on "TRT" are taking way more than natty levels.
Natty male produces about 50mg week of testosterone, most people on TRT are taking 100 minimum and 150-200 isnt uncommon at all.
Its basically a low dose steroid blast at that point, with all of the consequences and almost none of the benefits.

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>>77288094
that's because free test is more important than total. you'd always want to measure both

and yes, shbg can bring down free test

watch this, might be for you
one of the most common cause of low free test and high shbg is iron overload, which meams high ferritin and trans iron saturation. men dont menstruate so the iron builds up over time. blood donations increase testosterone massively if there is iron overload

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdO9btq1W3k

>>77288173
I've got a friend on "TRT" and he's literally on 500mg a week, and I'm talking from an actual clinic, not some shady tatted up bald guy at the gym. I'm on gear and open about it and he's taking more test than me, I'm only on 350

And thing is, he doesn't even go to the gym either, drinks like a fish and smokes like a chimney. The doses these "TRT" clinics give out to dudes, who are often in their 20s, is massively irresponsible imo. Of course a blast like that is gonna come with consequences, and half the dudes they prescribe to could've fixed their natural test by just making lifestyle changes like going to the gym, cutting down on booze and eating clean. I'm 100% sure my friend on the 500mg blast didn't need TRT at all. They don't even do a real health check half the time, they'll get you on even if you're just a little tired or had a bad day.

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>>77284861
At any age past 25 you should be getting your T levels checked. You will want to get sperm frozen if you do decide to go on it though.
Don't sterilize yourself for muscles.

>>77288267
I was on TRT for 6 years and came off. sperm motility at 79%, and had around 60 million when I measured 3 months post discontinuing.
>dOnT sTeRiLiZe YoUrSeLf
fag

>>77284861
I'll see how things are looking every 5 years, I'm 40 now and my gains are loyal although I haven't been lean and fit in years

>>77288267
If you take HCG (which any competent doctor should be prescribing) along with the T, then you won't go sterile. If your doctor doesn't prescribe it, find another doctor. I had a kid while on TRT, but it took longer than usual (about a year of trying. My other kid which I had while not on TRT I had first time cumming in my wife without contraceltives).

>>77288267
What AI do you use to make deep fakes

>>77288381
I primarily use Wendy's AI

>>77284861
8

>>77288417
Good one anon I actually googled it like a retard.

>>77289093
haha retard

>>77284861
Early 20s, otherwise you're at risk of being mogged to death

>>77284861
I WANT SOME GODDAMN VAGINA

do/did we have any roider on this board who regrets it? don't include dead ones, because we cannot ask them

>>77289093
Wendy's nuts hit your chin

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>>77285082

23 if you want to have sex

Another roidtranny melty threead. Enjoy your viagra at 25