What is your opinion on semaglutide? On the surface it looks magical. On one hand it can help people with obesity, (pre)diabetes etc without major side effects. On the other hand there are some second order effects which are hard to ignore. Losing weight has been associated with conscious and rigorous effort, now people can bask in the same compliments without putting in actual work. Fatness was a good indicator of personality as well, associated with low self respect, laziness etc. Further, now the HAES people have no excuses to to fall back on. People will not put up with fat partners and thinspo is back on the menu. However, there is a good chance that besides raising the bar it will fuel hoeflation further. GLP-1 medication is more and more frequently cited in divorce groups.
>pre diabetes>takes diabetic medicine anywayWhy are americlaps like this
>>77285054The main issue I see with these things is that people are completely dependent on them for getting down to a lower bodyweight - they won't be able to sustain that once they reach their goal because they didn't learn jack shit about healthy eating or exercise, and relied solely on jabs The better way is to learn what foods are good, what foods you should avoid, get 10k steps a day minimum, few days a week put in work at gym and just generally learn what normal portion sizes look like. Fat people have the issue of believing an entire plate full of fries is a normal portion, they have no idea it's way too much. Just like the skinny people who claim to have a fast metabolism who think literally 12 fries and half a chicken breast is a normal size meal. People need to learn this.
you will pay the price for your lard brain being unable to just put the fork down, so you inject this mystery juice
>>77285058yep, this is pharma shenanigans so GPs can prescribe as much GLP-1 as possible>>77285060somewhat agree, but there is a huge mental effect of slimming down. Once they reach their desired bw, get more confident, command more respect etc they will hopefully think twice about ballooning up again. Also, people don't just put 10-20-50 kgs of fat instantly. Worst case, for all we know, the can inject science indefinitely too>>77285068says the anon running 20 supplements daily. I'm not here defending (((bigpharma))) but there are certainly worse things people can abuse
I used saxenda for 3 months or so. At first it worked incredibly well to the point that I was at like 15% of the maximal daily dose and not needing to increase it at all. But eventually it stopped working altogether. It was like I wasn't even taking it at all. I stopped at that point cause it's very expensive. I tried it again maybe 3 months later and at that point it didn't work at al. I've never heard of people developing a tolerance but I guess it does happen.
>>77285054>without putting in actual workIgnorant. GLP-1 use is no walk in the park. You are constantly fatigued and basically have to stick to a liquid only diet to avoid puking all the time. Its hard as hell to maintain your muscle while losing weight on it because you are literally consuming next to zero calories for days on end. What about that sounds easy to you?
>>77285662Had none of those side effects
>>77285672Then you were on some pussy dose
>>77285680I was at the max dose of Saxenda cause I bumped it up since it stopped working >>77285100 inb4 saxenda is a pussy glp 1
>>77285681Yeah your shit doesnt even count don't reply to me
>>77285683Bitchmade pussy can't handle drugs used by 60 old women lmfao get fucked
Only a complete lazy piece of shit would take dangerous drugs over just eating less and cleaner and working out every day
>>77285691Says the 35% bf to the 12% bf
>>77285054I work for a company that sells these online. We have doctors that can check your application and photos and can prescribe and sell them.The reality is that they are not good for you, but being fat is one of the worst things you can do to your body, so getting to normal weight is top priority.Everyone here saying that "people should just learn how to get thin by nutrition and exercised :) " are fucking dumbasses because if it was that easy, obesity would be fixed. These people have an addiction and can't solve it that easily. You can obviously chastise them for their life choices and lack of willpower, but it doesn't change the fact that they will NEVER get thin without help.Someone that halved their body weight from 160kgs to 80kgs has likely added 10 to 20 more years of life if they keep it up and if early enough.The only thing that I am going to add is that I have seen people that really don't need it ask for it for no reason. I'm talking about women (that have never been fat) with BMI of 20 (healthy range for women is 19 to 25) asking for weight loss medication. It's clearly not meant for them and thankfully the doctors straight up reject and refund the money to anyone that is at normal BMI.But this means it became so mainstream that people are just thinking its a solution for everything, even if they are just bloated and gained 3kgs over christmas, which is retarded. Its kinda like an average kid that got bullied jumping onto roids thinking it will fix his social life.It's really harsh on the body, and it can actually lead to being underweight, which ironically is even more dangerous than being overweight.That said, its saving a ton of lives (or prolonging them) and improving people's lives. That's undeniable.
>>77285662>>77285680God, you sound like a faggot. Learn to count calories and hit the gym, do your cardio, porky
Another totally natural gibs me your opinion on glp-1/peptides thread
>>77285662I take Mounjaro for months and all you said is a fucking lie.You can have normal food just fine, you are just a bit nauseous at times and naturally avoid overeating or eating certain foods (like fatty/greasy stuff) or you risk vomiting. You adapt to it within a few weeks on it.You also dont eat "next to zero" calories, that's ridiculous.In fact some people are so food addicted that they don't lose any weight because they are still overeating while on GLP1. You still have to control your food intake, the drug just makes you less hungry and think less about eating.Stop lying.
>>77286062>>77286049I guess I'm just dosing like someone who wants to lose weight while you all are taking doctor recommended pussy doses
>>77285054It's a tool, you still have to make the changes to your lifestyle still or you end up looking like death or rebound hard. You need to exercise to keep as much muscle as possible, you need to fix your eating habits, etc. There are so many other benefits to the various GLPs/Peptides that they're almost like a longevity drugs, but the issue is the abuse they've already seen as being just for easy weight loss... while embracing that loss to an unhealthy degree. It's to the point that the other benefits they bring people literally don't even know about... it's just about the weight loss.
>>77285087>says the anon running 20 supplements dailydon't make things up about me, fat pig. to lose fat, you simply need to put the fork down
Actually crazy how the entire world has psyop'd themselves into thinking you need fatloss drugs to lose fat lol"MUH HUNGER I CANT CONTROL U JUST DONT UNDERSTAND" - no I do understand, you have grown weak like the rest of the general population, you have 0 willpower, 0 dedication, 0 work ethic, you're a pathetic retarded goy like the vast majority of people.
>>77286431I cut from 100kg to 75kg at 6’2” naturally and even did 3 day water fasts during that time, naturallyYesterday I did my first dose of 0.5mg retatrutide because I want to be lean and when I tried to do it naturally I couldn’t sleep. I dont care about the hunger during the day but the fact that I was staying awake for multiple nights had a significantly negative impact and I’d rather be able to sleep than not use GLPs so that gym rotters wont tell me “but what about discipline saar”
>>77286431Like saying “dont use glps saar just starve yourself and dont sleep” is like saying dont use glasses, dont use medicine for your health issues etc. if something is available and does not have serious negative impacts then there is no reason not to use it
>>77285087>>7728641920 supplements a day is so casual-tier'd that even the twinkish cryobabby Bryan Johnthin b suppl-moggin yo ass. I'm on over 100 and frame-mogging him, still getting frame-mogged by Smaev but I'm waaay youth-mogging him.>t. not a hammy pepe user, eating an ice cream sandwich and then some glucose disposal agents
>>77285054It makes everyone's face look like that ballerina's face who injected shit in tp her legs and ripped the rotting nerves out so she could get them amputated. During her psychosis her eyes looed lime they mivrated to her temples and her face sagging off the skull. Ozempuc gives that face. Fuck that shit, just exercise more and quit eating garbage.>>77286467Fuck off weimarian bugman
>>77286483how am i “weimarian” you fucking pajeet? i already told you that i did 3 day water fasts, i consumed nothing but water but somehow i have no “willpower” because i dont want to suffer from chronic insomnia? this nigga expects me to stay off reta and wake up every night at 3AM just so that i can earn my good boy badge from him JFL
>>77286483also its not ozempic that caused the face you fucking retard, its that obese people have stretched their skin out by being obese and when they loose significant weight the destruction of their skin becomes apparent. The reason that you notice this more on ozempic former fat niggers is that most obese niggers never lose their weight and since ozempic is effective you have more obese niggers turning thinand as i said i WILL use reta to get from 16% bf to 12% bf without suffering from insomnia and you can do nothing to stop me nigger
>>77286568disclaimer: my usage of the word nigger has no racial connotations, I called this guy a nigger because he is a retard not because i surmise that he is of african descent, on the contrary i suppose that he is white like me. i have no problem with black people whatsoever
>>77285068>>77285060You're retarded.
>>77285691Post physique (you won't and we all know why)
>>77286036>It's really harsh on the bodyHow so?
>>77286343Of course. Probably retards trying to microdise" because everything is scawwy and they fear any risk
>>77286578Kill all niggers
>>77286657Kikes want to divide us and make us hate each other based on racial differences. The slave ships were owned by kikes, it was kikes who spread the anti-black sentiment amongst whites and the anti-white sentiment amongst blacks so that we would continue tearing each other apart and never notice what they do to us. Black people are not my enemy
>>77286666Kill all black people and gas every kike
>>77286679fucking retard you are literally being the top goy by behaving this way. kikes taught you to feel animosity for black people and they taught black people to feel animosity for you so that there would be a never ending cycle of hatred and that we would never look up and see what the kikes are doing to us.
>>77286689Blacks hate you, you're the retard by thinking that your peaceful stance will appease them. Blacks know the deal, you are the delusional one (most white goyim are). That's why you're a goy.
>>77286697Black people hate me because the kikes infiltrated their minds, just like they infiltrated your mind and made you hate black people. By refusing to feel animosity towards black people I am effectively putting a halt to the never ending cycle of hatred and animosity that the kikes have us under. This isn’t a woke BLM shit stance, its the recognition of the trap that kikes have put us under.
>>77286708You're trying to be a clever little boy who's above it all. Goyim like to play that game.
>>77286468>if something is available and does not have serious negative impacts then there is no reason not to use itI´d say not needing it is a reason
>>77285054Enjoy your brittle bones
>>77286733I'd say kys retard.
>>77286733but i do need it mate, because i want to reach 12% and every time that i attempt to get down from 16% i end up with insane insomnia that remains consistent for multiple days until i eventually cannot stand it any more and relapse. i argue that the insomnia that i get has a significantly more negative impact on my body than any potential reta side effect, and the fact that trying to drop from 16% to 12% for months has been consuming my life and made me waste time means that with reta i can finally resolve this issue painlessly and focus my attention on other things
>>77286733to give you an idea of how serious the insomnia gets one night i took 300mg of pregabalin without having used it for at least 1 week and i still woke up at like 4 AM
>>77286805Lyricas not a sleeping aid you fag you're supposed to have fun on it
I hope they make it free for extremely fat people. Maybe I can get my landwhale bum sister on it before she becomes too fat to walk.
>>77286810i am not a degenerate druggie you fucking faggot i can use pregab any way i want and the way i wanna use it is as a sleeping aid, the literature has established that it improves sleep quality
>>77286815You're gay and so is your literature fuck you pussy Muh reta insomnia lmaooooo
>>77286818This my forearm at 6’2” with long limbs and a 6’4” wingspanpost yours lil faggot, bet that you are indian and 5’7”
>>77286823>dyel midget arm with heavy foreshortening
>>77286823More like 5'2 lmaoo
>>77286825still no forearm posted. you are a lil pajeet coward & a manlet talking shit behind your screen “saar your forearm is dyel and you also use foreshortening” nice cognitive dissonance pajeet, you are not worth of my time
>>77286831samefagging thats my last reply to you lil pajeet go cry somewhere else
>>77286832You need to eat and lift faggot skelly
>>77286837no matter how many times you samefag you wont change reality lil pajeet JFL
>>77286818>>77286825>>77286831>>77286837samefag
>>77286845Dyel skelly
>>77286825>>77286831>>77286837Samefagging>>77286823>>77286832Roidtranny && reddit spacing
>>77286859post your forearm lil coward pajeet and stop hiding behind 10 samefagging posts like the little coward indian bitch that you are>>77286862i have never used anabolic steroids in my life and i’d never ever use them
>>77286864>muh forearmDyel retard
>>77286036Thanks for the serious and rational take. I completely agree with you, these drugs are helping people in need for the most part and I'm very happy for them. Just a couple of years ago bariatric surgery was literally advertised on tv by the dr Now guy. Night and day.Still, just like roids, it feels like cheating and/or diminishes the accomplishment of people sticking to exercise and a good diet>muh strength>muh willpower>muh work ethicall long tail cope. In fact, as you said, now that the drugs can be same day delivered the temptation to opt in will sway a lot of otherwise capable folks
>>77286343>You guys aren't as cool as I am because I am doing MORE weight loss drugs than youHoly cringe, imagine being proud of doing maximum dosages of GLP1Yes anon, you are so based and cool for overdosing yourself with weight loss drugs like a horse against doctor recommendations until you vomit yourself. I'm sure this will have no consequences to your body in the future.Let tell you a secret - the weight loss doesnt come from the drug, it comes from you eating less. the drug just helps you do that by making you less hungry. The drug doesnt magically make your fat cells disappear. Doing more drugs does not mean more weight loss, because you are still bound to CICO rules. It's not like roiders that go beyond human limit when they blast, all you are doing is being a normal non fat person. You really shouldn't need maximum dosages for that, and if you do, you are not trying at all, you are just expecting the drug to do everything for you.
>>77286907Cope retard
>>77286910you have completely shitted up this thread with your seething and samefagging pajeet, dont you have anywhere else to cry
>>77285100GLP-1 tolerance is part of how you become obese to begin with. Your body produces GLP-1s to indicate you're full. Eventually you develop a tolerance to it and eat more.
>>77286917t. to pussy to take a normal dose of glp1Ok faggot, glad you're upset, I'm here to stay.
>>77286919That's pseudoscience, you're retarded
>>77286921i hate your “people” so fucking much, the internet was so cozy and kino before your disgusting kind gained access to it and ruined everything
>>77286926awwwww too bad you're such a pussy you're scared of pinning a reta dose, nevermind doing anything riskier. Faggot
>>77286648The side effects include nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, constipation, stomach pain.indigestion. There are just the light ones, but they can be really pronounced - to a point where if work without quick access to a toilet (like you need to drive a lot or something), it might be a serious problem for you to need to shit yourself every 30 minutes. This is not present on everyone, most people will be fine after 1 or 2 months unless they are doing maximum allowed dosages.We don't really have enough data on the more long term ones because its so recent.I do know that anyone with possible pancreas problems is not allowed to take it at all and the doctors will instantly refuse it, so there is some connection there. Also pregnant women cannot take it, but i assume its because you want women to eat during pregnancy to feed the baby.>>77286903Its a medical advance like many others. We are talking about significantly reducing worldwide obesity, which is gonna save a lot of lives. Obesity is one of the biggest health problems of current world. Heart attacks are the number 1 cause of death, and we know the obvious links between obesity and heath issues.I fully understand why this board would hate the concept - you work hard to get there and some people are paying to reach the same goal. Its completely valid and I sympathize with it.But most fat people would never recover without help, and now they are able to live a proper dignified "normal" life because of GLP1. If we put aside the 4chan extremist "fat people should die" and look at it from a humane standpoint, then its a huge improvement.Even if you want to disregard the humanity thing, it also has some additional benefits that are harder to track, at least for now - Less fat people means less doctors treating fat people, less money going to healthcare to help them, etc.
>>77286825>>77286831>>77286928Go be an indian somewhere else we dont like your kind here
>>77286942Those aren't significant side effects you dumb faggot.>we don't have le enough dataThen stfu retard, why are you running your mouth
>>77286967Kys turdjeet
>>77286970>arguing against shit people never saidAre you mentally handicapped? I never said there were significant side effects, I said its "not good for you" and "really harsh on the body", which it is. It slows down your whole digestive system so you feel nauseous and bloated all the time, which naturally makes you not want to eat. But as far as we know, it doesn't kill you.
>>77285054We will see a catrasophic wave of side effects coming years from now due to this shit. There is no such thing as a miracle cure. Some people already suffer long term gasto issues because of it.Yes being fat is also unhealthy, but injecting some trash that makes you starve will absolutely cause its own issues.
>>77286997>muh just world fallacy>>77286993Yeah, so what you posted was bs>it's hArD oN ure bOdY>how so?>eRm i dunno iT jUsT iS oKaY?!
>>77287002Whatever you say Ranesh
Too expensive and nasty sideffectsOnly take this when you‘re humongous and everything else failed
>>77285054>What is your opinion on semaglutide?It's poison for degenerates who don't know better.
>>77287019You're retarded if you can't get it cheap.Literally too low iq
>>77285054I know a fat guy on sema wrote this but thin people actually think like this.
>>77285060>they won't be able to sustain that once they reach their goal because they didn't learn jack shit about healthy eating or exercise, and relied solely on jabsWhat is up with npc and not understanding that you can take GLP1 medication indefinitely?
>>77286036>The reality is that they are not good for youHundreds of studies across the world prove that yes, GLP1 are indeed good for you even if you are at a normal weight.
>>77286997>We will see a catrasophic wave of side effects coming years from now due to this shit.20 years of clinical use and all we saw was fat people and diabetics becoming healthier. Your worldview is getting shattered.
I've been diagnosed with the betus and now have to inject insulin 4+ times a day, shit sucks.This looks gay tho.
Half the posts in this thread have been made by ONE single pajeet samefagging and ragebaiting and all of you faggots have fallen for the ragebait.
>>77285054At least try keto or IF before these slop drugs.At the very very least, if you do one thing, cut out added sugar.See ya later.
>>77287093Sure if you're happy to keep paying for that shit, which is expensive, and if you're happy to keep dealing with side effects forever. I constantly felt sick when I was taking monjuaro and got light headed whenever I stood up after sitting for longer than 10 minutes.Best case scenario is to take GLP1 to assist in weight loss, and while you're at it begin making healthy meals and doing regular weight training and cardio, then stop taking it once you're at your goal weight and keep the weight off with diet and hard work. I've stayed around 190lbs for over a year now, while I was over 300 before monjuaro. You definitely don't wanna be taking it indefinitely, you'll feel like crap and won't be able to maintain a fit and healthy physique. The goal is not to be emaciated Auschwitz mode with this
>>77286814>make it free for extremely fat people.Not just free, if you're over a certain % body fat it should be mandatory to be on any sort of welfare.
>>77285054Outdated discussion. Why would anyone take sema instead of tirz nowadays?
>>77285054One of the best medical inventions that became readily available in this century. Some people are literally so fat and retarded they can't lose weight on their own. No amount of dietary information or knowledge about how bad being fat is will actually make them change their diet and permanently commit to it. There can be a few different reasons. Addiction is one, it can come in the form of binge eating, stress eating, or lack of impulse control.Others have knowledge but struggle and will constantly diet down, fall off the diet, regain, diet down etc usually within the obese weight range. Some people just need this stuff to suppress their hunger and not be obese.The counter arguments to this are often centered around people who can diet and can exercise. Jealousy that maintaining a healthy physique can no longer be as easily gatekept. While that's true, it's overall better as a whole for society. Fat slobs taking up way too much physical space isn't a good thing. Filling up the hospitals. I wonder what big pharma in 10 years will do when nobody needs 4 different heart meds to survive at 400lbs. The disadvantage to those people is that they have to spend their money on a drug that probably will rise in price over time to replace the profits off of other meds that won't be as common.>>77287295Part of the effect is the diet itself. If you're in a caloric deficit you're going to feel tired. If your weight loss is too fast you will lose a bunch of muscle too which will lower your BMR even further. Tirz and reta resolve the constant sickness issues by adding in other mechanisms that let you use much less GLP-1 (nausea inducing). Tirz is the best in general for feel and side effect profile. Reta has some weird side effects that people report. You do get better results on it but it doesn't feel as good. I would suggest reta for the last 10-20 lbs of your weight loss because it will boost back your metabolism, and tirz otherwise.
>>77285054>Losing weight has been associated with conscious and rigorous effort, now people can bask in the same compliments without putting in actual work. Fatness was a good indicator of personality as well, associated with low self respect, laziness etc.That was always a myth buddy. #1 cause of fatness is a poor intestinal microbiome. This affects everything inlcuding how psychologically hard it is for you to not eat. You're not a better person for being thin, healthier yes but not better. It was all caused by the bacteria in your gut.
>>77289575How can you say that when we're in a thread discussing the miracle weight loss drugs that work because of CICO? They provably do nothing about "gut bacteria" you absolute faggot.
>>77289575Marc Steubing has a pretty good video on fat loss, he explains that your body burns most fat while you're sleeping, so just sleep more and don't eat too close to bed time
All 20 of my Retatrutide vials (10x 10mg & 10x 20mg) turned up today. I've come off Wegovy because it's so fucking expensive here ($370 AUD for the 2.4mg pen), so I went via the grey market and had the Reta sent with postage for $380 AUD total ($270 USD).Fuck the pharmacunts, we /grey market/ now.
>>77287295>which is expensiveUnder $20 a month on Nexaph
>>77293253Where the fuck did you get retatrutide for that price in Australia?I’ve trawled GLP1forums and telegram channels and every single seller who posts just gets called a scammer
>>77288520> people who can diet and can exercise.IE everyone> Jealousy that maintaining a healthy physique can no longer be as easily gatekept.Being normal is gatekept?
>>77295996Not same anon but homopeptide is on glpforums and even has an Australian warehouse with reta in stock, 30mg kit,260 plus 40 shipping. Only use the contact info from their public posts on the forum. They have a telegram but remember don't accept any unsolicited DMs or you will get scammed. AGAINN do not use any outside contacts or links, imposters have a cloned scam website>>77296216Just helped bro out but am 90% certain he will still get scammed because he can't read
>>77285054Gives you osteoporosis and damages your eyes and kidneys. Might be worth if it if you're a fat bastard and not putting food in your mouth isn't working for you. At least with all the celebs on it the side effects will be well studied for future problems. >>77285060>Fat people have the issue of believing an entire plate full of fries is a normal portion, they have no idea it's way too much.That was my problem, I had lost touch with what normal looked like.
>>77296249What part do you think is wrong?
thoughts on Grey market compounds?There's GLP1 forums where vendors post their discord/telegram groups and you buy the compounds for much cheaper than the legit way. They give you purity tests to show validation of the compound by testing with third parties but the risk of grey market is always there
>>77296160>IE everyoneThere wouldn't be obese people if this were true.>Being normal is gatekept?Obese people being a healthy weight is being gatekept, yes. Them losing weight is diminished or even looked down upon when they use GLPs.>>77296236It doesn't though. I don't get why people don't seem to understand this, if you lose weight too quickly you can get negative health side effects. If you were really fat and lose weight your skin will sag especially if the weight loss was too fast. If you're not trying to avoid osteoporosis and not consuming a massive amount of dairy products (obese people LOVE cheese) then yeah you are more at risk of osteoporosis.>>77296717They're based but don't go in telegram groups etc. Just find a review site that does testing, and choose a vendor that you like. The chinese sources are often 10x cheaper and same potency/purity.
>>77295996theres a whole entire section where different vendors post their prices and contactare you the same retard thats been posting here for over a month that cant figure out how it works?
>>77297585weight loss speed doesnt effect the skin. your skin will sag either waythe problem is these fucks don't change their diet and eat the same trash shit, just substantially less of it, while also letting themselves go dehydrated and malnourished and voila
>>77286917ah the samefagging schizo who thinks everyone on /fit/ is samefagging if they have a similar opinion on something get a job or something man
>>77286907actually doesnt reta increase metabolism because of the glucagon dumping?
>>77297890Specifically, the rapid weight loss makes it seem like the skin is saggier. You're correct that there will be the same amount of sagging skin in the end, it's just that celebs get their pics taken constantly so people see that after they lost a bunch of weight and freak out when it will not be as bad in half a year. Weight loss peptides have an insane amount of misinformation about them online.>>77297892Yes, it basically prevents metabolism adaptation. People do report different side effects from it that tirz and sema due to this effect. It also seems to be less effective at suppressing hunger than tirz.
32M, 110kg, 29% b.f. on 5 mg MJ here and losing crazy ammount.I'm focusing on keto, spinning and pull-ups, though very hard for me.Liking it so far.
>>77285100>saxendaTried it, saxenda sucks. Just get ozmepic
>>7729898555kg to 46.5kg here on monjaro 2.5mg only, 2 months in
>>77298985>110kg, 29% b.f.Unless you're really tall this is highly unlikely. You're more like 50% bodyfat. Estimate with the army method and stop lying to yourself.
>>77285054im on a semaglutide but id say it does about half of the work for me. i could totally eat like a retard on glp1 but i dont
>>77301053You're so dumb lol
>>77300988How are you liking it? It's way better than OZ in my opinion, the first two weeks of proper dosaging and exercise I lost 8kgs (18 pounds for merica). But I was 112 kgs at the beginning.>>77301053Hi, thanks for the advice, thought I'm already using the army formula and 29,52% is my current bf.
>>77301675>how you liking itIt's literal fucking magic
The sheeple and dumb people in my life have taken it on and off and it has not really helped them at all. I believe that it has been detrimental to most of them. Is this true for all medicines? Am I just noticing it more because its current social craze and how it changes physical appearance in a more notable fashion? I include myself in that Dumbidiot category, I live amongst my peers. I feel like its a little too easy to get...
>>77301691I feel the same!! It's crazy good>>77301737Two doctors advised me to be on for a while, at least one year, so that my body and mind can adjust to my new normal weight. I dont think doing less than that can have any good long term effect, just the quick and fading weight loss. That's what I take from the conversations I had to doctors prior to taking it
>>77301675The first time I took it I felt so tired, energy wise and sleepy. I slept a lot.I skipped days of eating and my nose and throat was so dry even if I was drinking water.Also I think it gave a small UTI but that went away after drinking water constantly.I think I was vitamin deficent all my life so I now take multi vitamin and all good again, no side effects after.Also constipation dry shits...
>>77301789also I'm seriously considering going to the grey market...Its expensive, £170 per monjaro, while I look at the grey market and see its 1/10 of the price
>>77301792I'm from Brazil and I'm buying from Paraguai. Paying $70 for 60mg/2ml vial.
>>77301848is that compound? (not grey market)I'm worried going for grey market since there's no study on the longer term effects of taking them, and there might be hidden nasty effects down the line people haven't noticed yet.
>>77301987There's always a risk with anything, but some peptides have had human usage for decades... hell Ozempic's first clinical trial was in 2008. And it doesn't matter where you get it, the sides (long term or otherwise) will be the same. I just get it from an in-country reseller who send off for independent testing on their batches, I order a "kit" (10 vials from the same batch), and send one of the vials off myself to be tested. I'm double tested on the batch that way (More protected from supplier and reseller errors), I don't have to deal with trying to import it myself (Basically no chance it gets snagged domestically in shipping), and it's still way cheaper than trying to go the pharma route.
>>77285060>like the skinny people who claim to have a fast metabolism who think literally 12 fries and half a chicken breast is a normal size mealThis was definitely me, I was about 140lbs from 18-22, thought my metabolism was jacked up. Whenever I look at photos of my meals from back then they looked like child portion sizes. i think it's the same for all skinny dudes who are struggling with weight gain, they just have to learn what normal portions look like and they'll see how easy it is to pack weight oni don't believe a lot of fat people actually eat an entire buffet on their plate though, they usually eat pretty normal sized meals. the issue seems to be way too many snacks between those meals + lots of soda a lot of the time. that's why intermittent fasting is good for fats, makes sure they're just sticking to main meals and no snacks
>>77296717ive been injecting grey market shit for the last 6 years and im fine
>>77301987Lol then stay fat retard
>>77286689The only thing the jew fears is Whites joining together. You love browns, clearly jews have shaped your goy brain
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>>77301987>is that compound?It's made in regulated pharma labs, all above board. I don't know if they get the raw materials from somewhere else or produce everything there, but it's the real stuff and it works. I've been using paraguayan tirz for 6 months, bought tirzec from quimfa and lipoless from eticos, they're both good.
guys, it is generally accepting that restricting caloric intake is good for uuuu. Do you think GLP1 could help with longevity as well?
i tried it for a month at 15 % bf i was giga tired all day i prefer normal cut
>>77286419Okay but then I'd just pick up a spoon, or worse, a ladle. You're not helping.
>>77285054Just eat a high protein diet: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6548554/
>>77285060and? you are also dependent on food and air to live. are you knocking that too? boo food! boo air!
>>77301101kek sounding like a reverse junkie. >i could stop it anytime, but i wont!
>>77306123Yeah that's addict behavior for sure, they're actually studying these drugs to cure drug addictions now, it seems to be effective for that as well.
Luv me reta ive cut before without it. this time round much more pleasant and more muscle retention
>>77286578>disclaimer: bla bla
calling it now lads, GLP1 drugs >>> aiaiaiai
>>77285054those are literally garbage lol. retatrutide is the only one that matters.
do they make you lose weight quicker or is it just apatite suppressant? why wouldnt i just stop eating
>>77307840>>77306742reta causes significantly more damage to the hypothalamic NPy, POMC/AgRP neurons than tirz or zema
>>77308195they just suppress appetite
>>77308195Some people are literally too lazy, fat and retarded to stop inhaling every calorie in a 10 second waddle radius. GLPs mainly reduce hunger, reta does the same but also tricks your metabolism into thinking it's getting more calories than it actually is, thus raising your core temperature and BMR.They're researching next gen drugs that also prevent muscle loss, which will also work when you're in a caloric surplus and trying to put on muscle.
>>77285054How much should I expect to pay for 15 mg Tirzepatide? Seems like 185 is a lot when you consider that 15mg is the maze weekly dose. I know i won't start that high. But still.
It just kills hunger/cravings. You can do that naturally. This is so weird.
>>77308991>reta does the same but also tricks your metabolism into thinking it's getting more calories than it actually is, thus raising your core temperature and BMR.Or just go with a high protein diet.
>>77309548Hunger is the most fundamental and primal feeling that nearly every life form experiences in some way. Most people just don't have the willpower or knowledge to cope with it. Drugs are an easy solution. It's the side effects and long term risks that worry me though.
>>77309348Depends on the source. A legit pharmacy? Yeah that's not terrible. Chinese UGL? Horrendous, that's basically US UGL dropshipper prices. If this is name brand then that is an insane deal.Never do 15mg weekly. You really don't need more than 5mg a week most likely. If you're obese and fucked your insulin sensitivity then maybe 10 or if you have really bad genetics.>>77309563Nobody is saying to not diet at the same time. This just makes it easier, you will spend far less time hungry. Tirz is king for appetite suppression, reta imo is best for end of diet/cut.
>>77309548>ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh everybody sees the world through the same lense as me and has the same strengths and weaknesses as me
>>77308249They also improve metabolic function/markers independent of the appetite suppression effectIf you have diabetes and take tirzepatide while keeping your diet the same, your A1c still drops.
>>77309348Holy fuck that is awful. You can order like 600mg from China for the same price.
>actually natural ingredients>actually helps you curb your appetite, put the fork down and cut weight proficiently without the side effects >actually works You can find these on eBay or at your local health shops. They typically cost ~$30. You're welcome
>>77285054Ozempic face scares the shit out of me. Why would I want to ruin my precious gift. Thanks dad
>>77310118Can you splane how subtlety?
>>77309348I bought 10 X 100mg vials for $240
>>77285054Has anyone who isn't a fat fuck used this for cutting?
>>77310418Would you please explain how one can search for sources for it? Tks
>>77310727GLP1Forum
>>77310330No. Gatekeeping is good. If you're too stupid to figure it out on your own, you're too stupid to be injecting stuff into your body. Case closed.
>>77308228missed this. can you explain
>>77310315It's not a real thing. It's extreme weight loss face. Ex-turbo-planet-sized-fatass face.
There's literally no downside to just making these widely available for a less obese society, health costs will eventually go down and I don't really care if fatties need them regularly instead of learning to eat less.
Enjoy your hair, collagen and muscle mass loss.
>>77312124imagine if we have this tirz, tren, zyn, & adderall to our troops on the dailyliteral super soldiers, is america retarded?
>>77312138>enjoy your made up sour grape bogus
>>77285054Ozempic cost 120bucks a month in Canada now. Its so cheap that's its crazy not to take.
>>77310132Thanks, I bought the double pack. I'm a sucker for gimmicky shit like this.
>>77285058lol the “diabetes medicine” of concern is insulin, europoor. Prediabetics and diabetics want to do everything to reverse their situation before insulin is neccesary.
>>77286997>>77285054>>77285060My very recent ex gf of 4 years went on ozempic while we were dating. You know how it goes, lost weight, started getting compliments, decided the grass was greener. We started trying to lose weight at the same time. She dropped 100 pounds with it and didn't even have to change what she ate. I'm losing weight the old fashioned way with cardio and lifestyle changes. Not as fast, but she's set to stop taking it in about a month because she hates how it makes her cut back on her beer. She's going to balloon up so goddamn hard and I'll still be losing weight. When the boys stop calling again we all know what's going to happen. And bros, it's gonna feel good to say no.
>>77285054I don't understand why fat people still exist now that we have ozempic. like what the fuck. I'm sick of looking at them.
>>77285054fat retards are fat and retarded because they continue eating even after they are full, an injection that stops them from getting hungry isn't going to change that
>>77285054You start losing micro nutrients at absurd rates because fat is necessary.Mainly your bones will start to deteriorate faster than an 80 year old womans.
>>77310727stairway to grey discord and telegram group
>>77312138Jokes on you. I'm already bald and flabby.
so I'm going to go Grey market but reading this test guide there's so much information to go throughhttps://www.stairwaytogray.com/posts/testing/testing-101/Is this something I need to do?I don't even understand half the stuff being mentionedI thought it'd be I order from reputable vendor then use some BAC water from Amazon then use it but it says I need Pfizer Hospira BAC water?I need to test ph, pay to test the vial + read all the tests I've never done before
>>77285054I'm old so you probably won't listen but whatever. I've seen so many of these "magic bullet" miracle cures come and go over the years. It always ends the same way. >widespread adoption>muh clinical peer reviewed product>perfectly safe quit worrying faggot Then a few years go by and its suddenly pulled after it gives everyone bowl cancer or something and their assholes start falling out. Every single time. Its been good for elderly people with diabitis, but that's only because the alternative is so bad. Maybe its different this time, but I'm not betting my health on it. >tldrIf you have serious medical problems, its worth it to try it. If you are just a lazy fat fuck looking for an easy way out, maybe you should consider not eating slop every meal and work out instead.
>>77313317For real. Fuck putting fluoride in the water, we need to put ozempic. Make that shit free for everyone and just compound it ourselves if they're not willing to sell it on the cheap.>>77313999I mean you really don't need to do allat. There are a few third party peptide testing + rating sites that will give you a good set of options. From a reputable source selling legit peptides you are probably getting legit BAC water too. Hospira is good but you're gonna get bent over if it's in stock. I just paid $90 for 5. I'm honestly considering using BAC water for 2 months rather than 1 just to save.At the end of the day if you're not pussy enough just inject it you should start to feel tirzepatide after 2+ weeks provided you start on something like 2.5mg. Something like a GHRH drug just inject the clinical trial dosage you'll probably get a head rush ie it's real. Some peptides have a color you can look for too.>>77314091These drugs have been on the market for diabetics for a while. Peptides are a bit different than drugs because often times they're just boosting signaling of your body that it naturally would produce. All the current bad things in the news are all just morbidly obese people having loose skin from being morbidly obese and losing the weight. You're always going to look like shit after you come back from that regardless if you use ozempic or just decide to stop eating all goyslop within a 10 second waddling distance.
I had to stop mounjaro for two weeks because I went on vacation, do I restart at the same dose (7.5mg) or lower it?
>>77311443It damages lean, insulin sensitive peoples hypothalamic-leptin satiety neurons.Some anon pops in from time to time and explains how the supraphysiologic GIP agonism 24/7 with reta is too strong without beta arrestin and damages the POMC, AgRP, NPY receptors in your hypothalamus, like kids who are obese and can never truely get lean
>>773142115 day half life, assuming you've been on 7.5mg then you're typically at 4.58mg you when you do another injection (12.08 mg peak). Right now you're at 1.74mg (14 days from last injection). Make of it what you will.
>>77314211Same dose bro but that is a high dose. Like >>77314392 said, long half life but each dose is cumulative so you're much higher than 1.74mg. You're at 22.5mg after injection, 15mg before you dose the next week and 11.25mg the second week.For simplicity sake I'm assuming it's a nice 1 week rather than 5 days, and that you've been dosing for infinity weeks. If it's been at least 5 weeks close enough. In reality, my 2 period calculation of a week half life is closer to 3 periods under the 5 day real half life. So basically you're almost at the week 3 value if you use my calculation. So 9.375mg.
this shit gives you a hangover if you eat too much
>>77314211I'd do 2.5mg or 5mg. From my experience once you hop back on you get all the sides and zero of the benefit for a week
>>77293253Adding to this, just ordered the same amount and also 20 vials of Tirz, KLOW80, and HGH.I'm addicted bros.
I've been on 5mg tirz for awhile now but switched off for 2 months to try reta. I really like reta a lot but I ran out so I went back on tirzI ran out of reta and I was taking 6mg a weekso I started taking tirz 4 days ago and started at 5mg and haven't felt shit all week. I just took 7.5mg (the next logical dose) but it's 4 days after taking 5mg. I've never dosed twice in 1 week before. Hopefully 7.5mg works or else I'm just gonna go order more reta.
>>77314091did weightwatchers "come and go"? no, theyre still here. and they adopted glp-1 cause they know its the future
Have you lads bought shares of Eli Lilly yet? I'm seriously considering putting a few grand into them.
>>77314613Tirz is a more effective appetite suppressant.
anyone have luck quitting nicotine on these things? I am on reta and I didnt vape for the first 2 to 3 months and felt great. now im more addicted to it than ever and I dont know why
>>77314346you're not saying anything of value.
>>77316212>>77306650imagine altering human behavior with a jab. No addiction, no violence, no more 'urban youth' behavior, no more corrupt politicians
Classic media fearmongering at work once again.>Noooo it's unregulated!>Noooo you are in danger!>More and more people are turning to illegal counterfeits!!!>You MUST take Big Pharma GLP-1s, they're safe!They don't give a fuck about public safety, they only care because they're not making a profit.
