The four horsemen of insulin spikes, bloating, cavities and high bodyfat.
>>77292461Meanwhile I eat a shitload of this every day and my blood sugars are normal and I'm underweight bmi
>fourchannel_fit_shitposting_image_12.pjg
>>77292461Keto autists are just lazy fat fucks who don't practice any kind of sports
>>77292461But uh, see also...>https://gizmodo.com/journal-retracts-controversial-study-claiming-keto-diets-dont-clog-arteries-2000762661
>>77292461>White potatoes le badhaha get fucked
>>77292479>Oy vey shut it down !
>no sucrose
>>77292470kek
>>77292461Just don't be a carbatarian
>>77292461I drank the Keto Kool-Aid for a while before I realized that almost no keto dieter is below 20% body fat. It is almost impossible to get truly lean on such a low-volume diet.
>>77292461I eat all of it. 6'3, 192 pounds. I fuck any milf I want.
>>77292578All keto scientists and influencers are lean and strong, the "keto followers are fat" is unfounded
>>77292584No, they are average middle-aged guys who are just not fat. Ken Berry is the poster child.
>>77292461you want high insulin to build muscle, and during a cut some days high in carbs are good to keep letin in track
>>77292590>Post a lean individualOk
>>77292461>>7729247012 outta how many?
>>77292461 healthiest populations on planet are 90% rice/noodle eaters. japs and koreans etc. eat low fat high carb. no obesity, type 2 diabetes unheard of, especially before western junk food chains landed thereglucose burn as heat it cannot turn to bodyfat. only fat is stored to body fat and fructose in excess (soda and fruit juice). glucose never is stored as fat it's natural source of energy for humans
>>77292461Would the gentlemen care for a micro plastics finish? We also have a lovely Roundup dressing that's made in house.
>>77292461Pasta is relatively low on glycemic index due to its gluten development. >bodyfatNo one got fat eating any of those foods in their plain forms. Moreover, CICO...>bloatingFemale bullshit, if it really makes ur tummy hurt, whatever, but dont blame ur own inadequacy or autism on the food.>insulin spikeMidwit retard signal, just eat the foods in along fat and fiber to slow digestion...
I like potatoes thoughbeit
>>77292461ferment your bread and rice to eliminate gluten and anti nutrients
>>77292461>bread pasta potatoes rice>bloatingwhat
>>77292803Nutrition threads are exclusively written by people with serious undiagnosed GI problems stating their experiences like they're universal.
>>77292611I always wondered if anybody on here was aware of this
>>77292470kek. learn to embrace these threads too anon
>>77292461>insulin spikesIts called energy you use during lifting>cavitiesNo, thats from metal overload>high bodyfatOnly fat people I have met diets consist of high fat high protein, nice try.Starvation Nation.
>>77292808I remember Anthony Chaffee talking about how he once ate some vegetables when visiting his parents and wanted to kill himself afterwards
>>77292461>cavitiesqrd?
>>77292910nasty ass niggas don be brushin` dey teeths. Lets food stuck in them niggas teeth start rottin when bacteriums n shiet start breaking it down, makes all kinda nasty acids that fukken DISSOLVE dem niggas teeth. Be makin holes n shit.
>>77292916thank you, nigga
>>77292461For breakfast I had three potatoes cut into fries and baked and 6 eggs.For dinner I had one steak,2 bakes potatoes with butter, and a bowl of broccoli.I will continues to eat 5+ potatoes per day. Nothing you say will stop me.
>>77292910>>77292916Quick run down nigga gangsta style is top tier. They should really explain everything this way.
>>77292657Glucose gets converted to fat when in excess. Japs and Koreans are low bodyfat because they eat LESS, have a culture than shuns fatness and also they do eat a lot of protein and vegetables.
>>77292709>yeah bro, just eat unlimited amounts of pasta and you'll never get fat, look how healthy and low bmi Italians are!
>>77292461Just don't consume them with excessive amounts of fat.>butter or vehicle for processed meats>excessive amounts of oil or greasy meats>butter or full fat sour cream bacon bits or mayoThe issue isn't them having carbs it's fat and carbs interfering with each others metabolism. This spikes insulin more than had you just eaten it with protein.
There isn't a single person getting fat from overeating potatoes. You get fat from eating fat.
>>77292962That explain why you're a skinnyfat mess though
>>77292657Stop that nonsense. East asian have diabetes at way higher rates than the west. And just a century ago no-one, except for the always sick royals, ate white rice there.
>>77292461what about farting? I've been doing some farts tonight, but I think most of them are out now
>>77292962based irishanon
>>77292461>OPThe one horseman of being a faggot
>>77292461Carbs are strictly for poofs.
>>77292659Wouldn't that also be a concern for cows eating the grass?
Never met anyone with a six pack who eats potatoes/rice/bread/pasta on the regular.
>>77292461Pasta is the best for consuming a sickening amount of calories
>>77292969>Glucose gets converted to fat when in excessHow much is "excess"?
>>77293517Bread and potatoes are basically cutting food unless you're deep into a cut. 2 big ass potatoes is 500 or so calories without butter? I also eat the skins for vitamins but it's fries and insane amounts of oil that restaurants put on potatoes. Bread is filling unless its a whole loaf of butter toast, like a slice or 2 of a baguette and a deli sandwich and I'm toast if you want some filling meals with foods you crave on the cut. Or if I made some cubed roasted potatoes with a good amount of oil and even some butter and parsley at the end then I could eat nearly 1lb plus all the fat.
>>77293522You're more likely to get fat as shit eating fried potato shit that has a solid half the calories in fat. For a few weeks I was eating fried rice with a solid 2oz or more of sriracha mayo every day and I gained a lot of fat without gaining much weight. Afaik you can have absurd amounts of soda if you keep up lifting. That's the only reason I do legs sometimes.
>>77292883>wanted to kill himself afterwardsthat also is my avarage reaction after visiting my parents
Post body with timestamp
>>77293529What's the deal with potatoes being bad?I'm like a month into my "remove skinnyfat" endeavor and I eat red and sweet potatoes for dinner every day... I just steam them I don't fry or use any oil
>>77293593I constantly have muscle to recover, so zi can eat as much carbs as I want. It requires over 4000 calories a day to maintain weight once this moderate/lean bulk sets in.They make you fat if one big potato is more glycogen than all of your muscle mass can store sure. Mostly from what you eat with it like butter, sour cream, steak and lots of alcohol. Protip minimize fat consumption to smaller meals so it doesn't go straight to fat. Try a smaller snack or breakfast to get your fat in.
>>77293623I'm very new to all this shit so I don't really know how much glycogen my muscle mass can store lol but I don't eat them with anything like that. Just chopped and steamed with a bunch of spices as a side for ground beef or chicken breast with green beans/broccoli.They seem to keep me full for longer than most shit so I've been sticking to them, but I'd hate to realize I've been fucking that up and wasting time.
>>77292648By what standards, powershitters?
>>77293517You never met a bodybuilder from the 80-00s?
>>77292470Lmao
I'm just popping into this thread to tell you all I'm really disappointed in you for falling for this bait
>>77293536So are you going to answer the question?
>>77293288>
>>77293642You mean the bodybuilders who were/are on gramms of pharmacology?
>>77293288Obliterate him
>>77292461There is zero evidence insulin spikes have any adverse effect on healthy people.Before, it was gluten - also no evidence whatsoever.Before - dietary cholesterol - also no evidence.At least stuff like milk and meat has solid mechanistic evidence behind it, so there is some basis for an argument against it, even if it would always lose to the rationality check of>whatever you're planning on replacing those products is realistically speaking worseBut arguing against the humble potato is just dumb.
>>77293750>There is zero evidence insulin spikes have any adverse effect on healthy people.
>>77293911Sure proved him wrong.
Anyone tried Berberine long term? I’ve been taking it for a week 400mg twice a day and it almost completely killed my food cravings. I feel like I’m 20 again, back when I struggled to gain weight because I would get full very fast.My bloodwork was fine a few months ago so it’s not like I’m pre-diabetic. Was my body THAT bad at managing sugar?
>>77293918This is what i hate about doctors, they make up shit all the time. If you are an older guy like me on your 40s, you have lived through a ton of shitty doctor memes that just turned out to be a lie>salt is bad>too many eggs a day is bad>dairy is bad>fat is bad>food pyramid "you should have 6 servings of pasta a day" shit>blood sugar spikes>gotta eat an apple every 2 hours to lose weight (its THE only way possible)>fasting is bad>losing weight too fast is bad>red meat is bad>gluten intolerance>sweeteners are badThen a few years later they are just like "haha whoops we just made up the carbs shit so kellogs could sell more cereal".At a certain point you really gotta tell em to fuck off and just keep doing what you are doing. Just look at what countries that are healthy and thin are eating regularly and take some hints from that.
>>77294089>Just look at what countries that are healthy and thin are eating regularlySo high carb low fat.
>>77293986It just lowers blood sugar. It doesn't mean your blood sugar control was inherently unhealthy to begin with.
>>77292470Is OP a bot, lmao
>>77294100Depends on where you are looking. Asia has a lot of carbs, but places like Mediterranean diet has a lot of carbs but also high fat.The reality is that there are a lot of paths for success and healthy, and neither are perfect. each of these diets come with more predisposition to certain diseases for example.The point is you can't just make blanket statements like "this whole macronutrient is bad and you need to never eat it".Look at real life scenarios (whole population diets for hundreds of years), see the pros and cons, and take your pick.
>>77294089>coworkers give me shit for eating eggs every day ("You're going to have a heart attack!")>the same coworkers who bitch they're not losing weight and give me shit when I tell them to focus on more protein and healthy fats than the UNLIMITED CARBS I see them eating every day
>>77294100>>77294117Friendly reminder that the Blue Zones are a hoax pushed by the Seventh Day Adventist cult.The same people who promoted breakfast cereal as an "anti-masturbation meal" to suppress people's libido.
>>77292470We're at the stage that moxyte aka anti-ketoschizo has become so deranged that he's doing false-flag posts like this.Just like when someone posts something he disagrees on /pol/ but with a hebrew filename and pretends to have been "caught".
>>77292578>Why is a fat person doing a diet?
>>77294586Pension fraud hoax or not, there is still research on chemicals found in the "Mediterranean diet" showing real health benefits, such as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HydroxytyrosolThis stuff is more popular in Asia and has had interesting research recently too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fucoxanthin
>>77294553The worst one for me is definitely the "the way to lose weight is to eat small meals every 2 hours".Everytime discussion about a diet, or losing weight, or being fat comes up at the office, suddenly someone (usually fat) is an expert on this complete ass fucking idea that some jew invented.Personally OMAD was the thing that functioned the best and everyone keeps bitching if im not gorging myself all the time like they do.>>77294586That's neat, I didn't knew that, but I wasn't even talking about centenarians, just normal people and average mortality rate per age, but also checking stuff like common diseases.For example, everyone thinks japan is super based because they eat le heckin raw fish, but in reality they have huge rates of diabetes.I don't think there is a perfect diet, there will always be a con amongst all the pros. You kinda just have to understand what you are getting into.Anyway the point of all this shit is: Fuck what the "doctors" and "studies" say because they either dont know wtf they are saying, or worse, are trying to scam you.
>>77294605Damn he looks at least 18 in that picture.
>>77294607Some people can handle multiple small meals much better than a few big ones, for some it's the reverse.For me, limiting myself to 1-2 meals a day makes it much easier to control my total calorie intake without ever feeling uncomfortably hungry, but my mom can't do that and for her, something like ~5 very small meals is easer to do.
>>77294619That's fair, I'm not saying that's the only way either. I just dont like that people, especially random people that "heard about it" just push it as "the solution is this".Even something as simple as CICO is mindblowing for some people. If you eat a burger or pizza and you know its 800kcal from the label, some people will snark and go like "haha what happened to the diet LMAO"I'm a big fan of you trying some stuff and see what works for you. For me, its OMAD or intermittent fasting - easy to track calories and you can eat a big ass meal and still be like on 1500kcal. But if someone is the "apple every 2 hours" guy, hey man, whatever works, the goal is what matters.
>>77294626Based OMADer. My cuts are either OMAD or 20x4 IF, always PSMF too.I'm just not disciplined enough to do them for long enough, so I need to lightfraud in order to see abs kek
>>77292470He is mentally ill and incredibly dumb. His extension or phone app probably stopped working so he can't obfuscate filenames.
>>77292461This shit isnt even real. Just eat real food and lift. Do you think Arnold gave a fuck about an "insulin spike"? No
>>77294590Hey, if it isn't the cripple. How are you doing, I just got home from an Herculean walk around the block.
>>77292461you are delusional if you think any of those make you fatpotatoes are low in calories. if you eat nothing but potatoes you will lose weightin fact if you eat nothing but those four foods you would probably lose weight. people get fat don't get fat eating those foods. they eat cake, burgers, pizza and shit like that
>>77294925people who get fat don't get fat*
>>77294925>if you eat nothing but potatoes you will lose weightif you eat nothing but [THING] you will lose weight
>>77294925>eat nothing but potatoes you will lose weightYou'll also be dead
>>77294936you eat nothing but potatoes for a few weeks and then you stop.you do it for weight loss like pen jillette
if you can eat nothing for 40 days and not die i am pretty sure you can eat nothing but potatoes for 40 days and not die
anyone who practice mono diets knows that none of those foods make you fat i ate nothing but pasta(noodles and tomato sauce) for a week and lost weight i ate nothing but white rice for a week and lost weight
>>77294607I like doing OMAD, but my job is fairly physical, so I've switched to two meals a day with no snacks.
>>77294940>lose over a hundred pounds extremely quickly by eating only potatoeswhat do you do with the skin?
>>77295272you eat emwhy waste food?
>>77295272https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74G1oDPJ16c
>>77295285You eat the peels, of course. But what do you do with the skin?
>>77295288the peels and the skin aren't the same thing?
>>77295295there's all the peels you have to deal with when losing over a hundred pounds very quickly by eating only potatoes...and then there's all the skin you have to deal with when losing over a hundred pounds very quickly by eating only potatoes.
>>77292461where do oats fit onto this list?
>>77295314Speaking of peels. I’ve started eating kiwis with the skin and I gotta say I’m a convert. It’s not as weird as it seems and it’s significantly more convenient. I haven’t tried more hairy ones tho.
I lost 200 lbs and 90% of my diet has been some variation of eggs & egg whites with 2 slices of wheat bread, plain turkey sandwiches, and lean meat with potatoes and broccoli
>>77295662>I starved myself and lost weightCool bro
>>77295574My breakfast every morning is a banana and two skin-on kiwis. I actually shave the hairy kiwis with a disposable razor first.Also I suck the banana out of the peel with my mouth.
>>77294936Would you agree that eating a poor diet deficient in vitamins and minerals that results in poor blood biomarkers is a precursor to death from that diet?
>>77292657You are not going to transform your dna and metabolism into that of an east asian's by eating rice and tofu. You were made to eat beer and bread and not live as long. You're still not going to live as long as an east asian even if you eat their food, but your whole life will feel weird in your attempt. Don't run away from this fact >>77294925Koreans say stuff like sweet potato makes them fat
>>77293512Once it dries it's supposed to be safe but it's not like the chemical just vanishes when it dries
>>77293348>East asian have diabetes at way higher rates than the west.Not true. Their absolute rates are lower, but they have a higher propensity for diabetes given a positive energy balance, because comparatively they store less subcutaneous fat and more visceral fat.
>>77293986It's basically natural metformin. It works through many of the same pathways.
