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/fitlit/ thread. The mind and the body are one. Your ill thoughts transpire in the physical world. Roiding is poison, it shows you were never willing to put in the effort. Weak mind, weak body.
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>>77293362
I want to like this guy but simultaneously I think he helped lead japan into the same awkward position where you can't wholly like either side like the US. You can't mingle authoritarian policy with economic illiteracy or you end up in the same place as commies by a differnt path.
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>>77293366
I don't agree with his politics. But I agree that you physical form is a representation of your ideology.
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>>77293362
>according to historical biographies (such as John Nathan's biography of the author), Mishima famously failed a bench press of 155lbs (70.3kg)
Holy fucking jap dyel
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Start with the Greeks.
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>>77293362
Reading this picrel book felt like learning about a form of yoga developed by white people

>Mishima
Takemaru Wakaki BTFOs Yukio Mishima btw it's not even close

Sun and Steel by Mishima
>Contemplate the mind and body and ritual death
>literature and language turns concrete experience into abstractions and this is bad
>we have to exercise in order to not forget we live in the real world
>suicide is important and manly

“Methods for Developing Superhuman Strength and Rebuilding the Body to Increase Physical Fitness” by Wakaki
>1. Theory and ideals: “True strength, not appearance.”
>2. Training method (introduction of about ninety events)
>3. Advanced Nutrition and Dietary Methods
>4. Abundant visual materials and records
>legendary pre-war fitness bible that has greatly influenced many martial artists and bodybuilders, such as the founder of Kyokushin Karate
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An absolute delight and a short read. Rick Wayne is the COOL bodybuilder's author!
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>>77293362
>t shows you were never willing to put in the effort. Weak mind, weak body.
Doesn't matter, only results do.
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>>77293426
Yoga is actually gymnastics cobbled together from Maxick, as well as German and Swedish sources.
That's why all yoga postures have some equivalent in sports gymnastics.

Nauli kriya is literally Maxick's abdominal control exercise, and the Maxadling company set out a challenge for anyone to prove the yoga method wasn't copied from them. No yogi took it.
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>>77293454
Lmao my gut instinct from reading a single old book intuited almost a 100% factually correct worldview. need to read more books out of copyright
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>>77293450
You're spiritually Indian
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>>77293392
>aeslop
no thanks
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>>77293366
>economic illiteracy
The hard focus on materialism and death of the abstract is what caused these niggershit times in the first place. Muh capitalism vs communism is american retardation.
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>>77293424
I've been reading The Sea-Wolf these days and I think this chart needs some Jack London in it. What do you guys think?
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>>77293492
The only differnce between the material and the abstract is lack of language and research to connect the two. Even theology eventually connects to something real. Translation errors are what create the problems when you act on something you're not sure of.
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>>77293362
i dunno why you fags keep recommending Sun and Steel as a "fitlit" book when lifting is only mentioned in passing and 90% of it is dedicated to Mishima's idiosyncratic platonist ramblings. have any of you even read it?
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>>77293424
Thanks for the recommendations. Which is best for someone who hasn’t read since AP English?
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If anyone here enjoy Sun and Steel, I implore you to read Runaway Horses. It's the second book in his Sea of Fertility series. Preferably read the first book Spring Snow before, but you can jump into Runaway Horses if you'd like.

It ties well into Mishima's views on the body and action. You also get a glimpse in to what guided his final act and suicide.
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>>77294165
He committed suicide? What a loser
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>>77293790
>Fitness is lifting
Retard. Weak mind, weak body. Do us all a favor and neck yourself.
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>>77294251
If it's so easy. You should try it
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>>77294276
Is this what they teach you in fitlit class?
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>>77294278
Yes. Send me your paypal. I'll buy you a rope.
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>>77294251
Yeah he seppuku'd himself.

He wanted to die a heroic and tragic death, not fade and sag in to old age
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>>77294283
There are better ways of doing so. What was so heroic and tragic about his deatg anyway?
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>>77293366
Commies are not illiterate, they do it on purpose you illiterate.
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>>77294288
He was the leader of a paramilitary/larp group called the Shield Society. They attempted a coup of the Japanese military to restore the emperor of Japan. This failed and he commited seppuku (like the samurais he loved).

This plan is quite retarded, and he likely did not expect it to work. But for him, doing what was right, even if it would fail, was more important than trying to be strategic. His vision of moral purity was dying with a young, strong, and beautiful body. By dying, he trancended humanity and became art.
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>>77293362
Legal Muscle, by Rick Collins, Esq.
genuinely an informative and funny book
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Why every /fitlit/ thread has to become a discussion about this Mishima faggot?
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I've got muscles, so I want to use them. I get up in the morning, pose naked in front of the mirror, and flex for half an hour. Looking at myself, I want to beat someone's head in with my bare fist. I want to see my
fist forced down some asshole's face, reach down, grab a handful of intestines, and pull them up and out the throat. That would make me feel good. Whatever makes me feel good is what counts. The reason I build
my muscles is to use them. That makes me feel good. It'd be senseless to work out for years just for the
stupid satisfaction of feeling "healthy" or knowing I look good when I'm about to fuck somebody up the ass. I get satisfaction out of grinding a face in the pavement. I don't want to question it. I like causing
pain. That's how I am. I see an immediate response to something I just did. No bullshit. Pure animal pain, me the victor, me in control, me on top, you on the bottom. I never allow myself to be in the position of feeling pain. I'll do anything to avoid pain. I'll run,
humiliate myself, betray a so-called friend, anything. In order to decrease the
possibility of pain, I'm never threatening in public. I obscure myself. I don't show off my muscles. I'm soft spoken. I don't need to impress anyone. I couldn't care less what they think of me. All I want is satisfaction. I get it when I need it. I cultivate it like a hard-on,
stroke it, build it up to bursting, then, when I'm ready, I find somebody to fuck with. Somebody to destroy, somebody to ruin. I brutalize them, then I fuck them. But they can't be "into" it, they can't be some wimpy
masochist getting rid of their lame authoritarian guilt. They have to honestly be scared, maybe even think they're strong. That's when it feels good.
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>>77294978
That's when it feels good, when some pompous turd feels my boot in their eye, or their ribs breaking under the impact of my fist, my big fucking sledgehammer fist snapping their ribs like matchsticks, then my cock fucking
them in every hole they've got, my come mixing with their stinking blood. Yeah, I turn on thinking about it. I'm just now pulling on my cock. I'm imagining my meat in your toothless mouth right now. I'm shooting a gallon down your throat. You're vomiting a thin green liquid into my lap, then I kill you for that mistake. I twist your head right off your weak neck for
that mistake. I kill you like the worthless chicken you are right there and then, then I fuck you some more. Later, I eat your sour brains and throw your corpse out with the garbage. Now you're perfect. You're doing what you do best: you're dead. I used you. I fucked you. I wiped you off the face of this rancid earth. My main goal in life is my pleasure, and that made me feel good.
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>>77293362
I tried to read this but it was just a stream on consciousness so I never finished it.
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>>77294978
>I've got muscles, so I want to use them. I get up in the morning, pose naked in front of the mirror, and flex for half an hour. Looking at myself, I want to beat someone's head in with my bare fist.
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>>77293492
>Muh capitalism vs communism is american retardation.
Bingo, even literal communist parties can easily accept that an economy that works is the best, but Americans will die for ideologic crap.
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>>77294303
>This plan is quite retarded, and he likely did not expect it to work. But for him, doing what was right, even if it would fail, was more important than trying to be strategic. His vision of moral purity was dying with a young, strong, and beautiful body. By dying, he trancended humanity and became art.
This is the exact opposite of what we see in the West.
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>>77294273
he barely talks about fitness at all, thanks for confirming you actually haven't read it
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>>77295092
He doesn't write easy to understand technical guides, sorry if it's too much for some people.
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>>77293362
I've been reading both the core rules for adnd
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>>77295432
I like how D&D used to be moral.
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>>77294956
Well Last fitlit thread was about Ayn Rand and it was shit
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>>77294956
Every thread has an author in the OP. I remember that jewish bitch and Musashi.
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>>77294303
Wow so heroic, so tragic
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>>77293362
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>>77294978
>>77294984
Based?
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>>77294273
Relax jeeze. Yes fitness is mostly lifting. There are only two main fitness feats - improve strength and improve cardio. And the first is harder and more important.

>>77295048
I think we think that way a little. Look at all the music icons and celebrities who die young.
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>>77293424
The main thing about this list is that no one is jumping into Tolstoy, especially War & Peace, immediately. Start with The Death of Ivan Ilyich
and move to Anna Karenina then try War & Peace
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>>77293539
Yes he's great but this chart should just be discarded, dumping a bunch of doorstoppers on beginners is stupid
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>>77293426
Is there a PDF online anywhere of Wakaki's book??? Archive dot org, pdf coffee, etc. have nothing, and all I can find are short articles. The reprint is like $500, plus shipping, plus proxy service fees...
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>>77297626
Here you go: https://dn710600.ca.archive.org/0/items/MuscleControl/Muscle_Control.pdf
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>>77297676
Wakaki's book... Not Maxalding...
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The idea that certain literature is "fit" is amusing, just read what you enjoy. I've started bringing books to the gym and reading between sets, better than doomscrolling. Here's my 2026 so far(formatting will probably be whack):

Januari
• The Dispossessed
• Children of Time
• A Wizard from Earthsea
• The Tombs of Atuan
• The Farthest Shore
• Tehanu

Februari
• A Fire Upon the Deep
• Demon Princes I: Star King
• Demon Princes II: The Killing Machine
• Demon Princes III: The Palace of Love

Mars
• Demon Princes IV: The Face
• Demon Princes V: The Book of Dreams
• Always Coming Home
• The Last Castle

April
• The Blue World
• The Lathe of Heaven
• Durdane I: The Anome
• Durdane II: The Brave Free Men
• Durdane III: The Asutra
• Maske: Thaery
• Consider Phlebas

Maj
• Nightside the Long Sun
• Lake of the Long Sun
• Eileen
• Caldé of the Long Sun
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>>77297993
Certain /lit/ is /fit/. Its a pursuit of a higher purpose, not something done for the sake of it.
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>>77297998

So fitlit = ideological reading, ye? The way it's talked about seems pretty juvenile at times, there's this concept of "stronk spiritual warrior-via-books-cultivation" that's cringe. But I'm probably being unfair.
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>>77297626
No, I think you will have to plan a grand heist of the tokyo library with a foldup CZUR scanner
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>>77298006
Well, sometimes someone's gotta start sowhere. No everyone has Goku as their gym partner
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>>77293362
Idk if he beats musashi
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>>77293362
>youre reminder that mishima was a gay
>youre reminder that the holyst sebastian is the homo protector because homos think the pain of penis in butt is similar to arrow in body

gayyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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>>77298188
I could've saved him...
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>>77298192
HOW?

also he didnt want to be saved! neither from sudoku nor homolust!
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>>77298188
I'm thinking he was a larper too. I could take him with a boat oar. I'd probably just kick him right in the head.
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>>77293426
Before this thread gets archived or filled with too many schizo responses, does ANYONE have a mega link or dropbox or google drive to Wakaki's book(NOT Maxalding) in a PDF??? I don't care if it's still in Japanese, I can use google lens or something. It feels like unobtainium for someone wanting to collect knowledge. Might be unintentional due to scarcity,but it really feels like the Japanese are gatekeeping the coolest shit ever.
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>>77298306
Like I already said, it's not available for no effort, unless you have access to a Japanese library. Japanese libraries, like all libraries, usually allow you to use copy machines and make copies of material you want to keep for yourself. I just know about this guy from brief bios
https://ameblo.jp/paulwaren/entry-12131072820.html?frm=theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0XO3ImS9zo

I'm not in such intimate contact with my Japanese friends from college that I can ask a favor like this without it being awkward, but maybe you can.
https://dl.ndl.go.jp/pid/1027634/1/2
It's expensive and awkward to produce scans of books and depending on the equipment you're using, you might have to destroy the binding. It would be better to save up and obtain a copy yourself if you really want it that badly.

Anyway, he got inspiration from bronze age bodybuilding techniques, and then what followed was his own Japanese eccentricity applied to it. He would do stuff like fall asleep next to a barbell so that if he woke up in the middle of the night he could train immediately. There's more than enough physical culture material written in English. Personally, I'm more upset that William Murray seems to have never written anything. This guy has a physique that I'd be lucky to have in old age, but one that doesn't look impossible to maintain.
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I only read real high brow literature (not reading books without pictures)
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worst meme. some autist loves to meme that giga manlet
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>>77298372
Literally none of what you said was helpful in the slightest and comes of as joining in the discussion for the sake of hearing yourself speak. We want the book, not an article. If you can't shit out the book, get off your high horse. Don't brag about something you can't share.
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>>77299457
Oh, sorry for informing you of the existence of Prof Wakaki but then not having a reprint of his book written in the 30s to spoonfeed you with
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>>77299488
Niggas complaining about people talking in a discussion board. Zoomers should rope.
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>>77294956
Because they're thinly veiled attempts at pol faggotry.
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>>77298188
Source?
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>>77293424
Moby Dick is one of the worst books I ever read.
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>>77293436
Thanks, only good post here
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>>77293362
Chud reads his first actual book in 7 years and immediately runs to 4chan to nag other men
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>>77299488
>>77299665
nta but it's goofy to say that X btfo's Y, but no I don't have X's book, a link to it, or anything to help you find it besides asking some random Jap to go find it in a library and scan it for you.
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>>77300896
you must not read much.
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>>77293362
Any of you fags read fun stuff instead of pseudo intellectual self improvement "the skinaru musta be as strong as the steelaru" bullshit
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>>77301463
Wakaki, an athlete, inspired Japan's fitness and martial arts culture and when he died, his body "was so splendid that it did not fit in a normal coffin"

Mishima, a novelist, killed himself, and then some of his works went viral in the safe-edgy philosophical spaces in the west.

If you compare the basic outlines of the books, or even the titles, then one btfos the other, and that's more or less all I had to say on the matter. Once again, I'm sorry I didn't come prepared exactly with a spoon to spoonfeed you with it.
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>>77301463
This guy gets it. If this is as amazing as it is alleged to be, whoever could claim actual Thad status by actually sharing it with the community instead of citing articles would make it probably more downloaded than Maxalding or Sandow
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>>77301650
See >>77301648
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>>77301463
Niggas used to get bullied for being asked to get spoon fed.
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>>77301707
ok, that doesn't help by making this said wonder manual appear anywhere online for anyone in this thread to read.

>>77299488
>sorry for informing you of the existence of Prof Wakaki but then not having a reprint of his book written in the 30s to spoonfeed you with

I'm not defending Mishima because I've never read his stuff, but it's silly that you're sitting here with your:
>le bully people asking to be spoonfed
when the only thing of Wakaki you've talked about is:
>five
>lines
>of
>green
>text
in the post where it was brought up. You're unironically saying:
>Niggas used to get bullied for being asked to get spoon fed.
Nigga you've never even read it, shut the fuck up.
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>>77301986
>it's silly you're socializing on the hobby forum about the hobby btw I don't contest what you said
You are free to think that

>You're unironically saying:
>>Niggas used to get bullied for being asked to get spoon fed.
Who are you quoting?
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>>77293362
>/fitlit/
best crossover
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>>77293366
>>77293362
why would you want to like a closeted brainlet who killed himself out of impotent rage
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>>77293366
Nigger. Read a book.
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>>77293450
You weaken yourself by minimising your striving.
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>>77293362
What would you even do with a wakazashi vs a katana mr samurai
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>>77301494
The Barsoom collection is pretty fun. Jack Vance is fun.
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>>77293362
mishima was a faggot and died like a bitch
none of you are samurai nor do you have samurai spirit
reading some deranged retard's book won't change that
stop looking for validation from 4chan
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>>77303355
Where else should I get my validation? ChatGPT? Claude?
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>>77303355
>none of you are samurai nor do you have samurai spirit
Im a ninja
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>>77293362
i dont think i've ever seen anyone(on here anyway) that has anything positive to say about sun and steel
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>>77303531
internally
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>>77303552
Hmm, how does that even work? I need to crush my enemies and goals just to feel a shred of validation
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>>77303571
see this kind of faggoty roleplaying is why you will never actually be a whole person
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>>77303593
Am I empty inside? Do I have no character? Is that why I have no real friends or a gf?
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>>77303571
Thirdie mentality

JBW
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>>77303647
But I am white
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>>77303647
Idgi, I've seen plenty of other white people searching for validation through their careers for example, how is that a thirdy mentality only?
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>>77302041
>Who are you quoting?
>>77301707
there sure are a lot of illiterate niggas in here for a "/fitlit/" thread.
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>>77293362
So, no one has any access to the Wakaki Wonderbook?
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>>77303756
This I presume is in reference to yourself



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