Have women let themselves go?Just got home from a weeks beach vacation in Greece, mainly tourists. Majority of middle aged women were overweight or obese, saw a handful of lean girls all week and they were all very young. Meanwhile at least 70-80% of the men had low bf and a lot looked like they had lifted before. Also in general most of the men were more attractive than their partner (I'm not gay) Why are guys settling for less?
>>77303927>Why are guys settling for less?That dude's unironically looks matched with that goblina. Ugly, crooked, brown teeth = ugly, fat wife.Homie's got potential with some basic orthodontia work, but if he's happy (and I suspect he's not due to his lack of eye lines), then good for him
>>77303927in modern society, most women work full time and the one's you've seen most likely have given birth to children, which also basically a fulltime job. the majority of them don't have the time to look after themselves. a part of that subset have transformed the frustration of not having the time to look after themselves into the "this is what a normal woman looks like" cope, so it's harder for them to even start.the men who settle for this are either extremely long term partners and fathers to the children the woman bore for them so their spiritual and emotional fulfillment tramples the need for muh prime tight pussy, or are locked in a "i'd feel too guilty if i left" type thing. i'm not gonna assume the ratio here because i really don't know but i'm pretty sure that it's either of those the majority of cases
>>77303927>Also in general most of the men were more attractive than their partner (I'm not gay) Why are guys settling for less?It can be a bit deceiving, because most of those women probably weren't obese when they met each other. I've seen a lot of women becoming huge within only a couple of years, from model tier to whales. Maybe those guys have no easy way out anymore (bought a house together, depend on each others salaries to sustain their lifestyle and other economic reasons when she was still hot)
>>77303927in nature the males are meant to be majestic and the females dull.women are supposed to be homely and chubby, men are supposed to be living embodiments of european mythology.if you've never fucked a plain chick who genuinely thinks you're a greek god then frankly you're still a virgin.look how happy that homely jeeta is with her slightly wonky but passably decent white man even with the crooked teeth.that chick fucks him better than a sydney sweeneylike ever would.
>>77303969>that chick fucks him better than a sydney sweeneylike ever would.Wut there's no way obese bitches are any good at sex
>>77303927Chicks here usually smash into the wall and start blowing up ~17yo which is when many guys get more into fitness so that's where the disparity stems from, at least in part. The 70-80% is way too high so you're probably setting the bar very low. Most are just on the skinny side of skinnyfat with a small subset being lean and the others sporting a beer belly rotund enough to comfortably shade a small pygmy tribe.>Why are guys settling for less?"As long as it has a pulse" has been a thing since forever. I personally find it extremely puzzling but we've all stepped in shit by accident at least once before, the point is how long you can endure until you notice and clean your shoe.
>>77304025it depends what "good at sex" means to you.if you mean "I'm a fat lazy fuck who wants her to make me cum" then yeah, fat chicks lack the athleticism to do that.but if you're a fucking man who wants to toss her around like a doll and use her body for your own enjoyment and for her to not just passively be used but to thrust back and literally pass out from how hard you're making her cum, then yes, slampigs and plainjanes are absolutely better for sex.I find that the more a chick enjoys me fucking her, the more I myself enjoy it.not only hat but the more the chick ebjoys it, the more she'll want it.sex isn't just the act itself, it's the availability of it. you get a chick who considers sex meh, she'll avoid it if she isn't in the mood.until you've had a chick literally pass out on your dick, you don't know what good sex truly is, because she will attack you for it.my 5/10 34yo slampig will drive to my workplace to suck me off in the carpark on my lunchbreak if it's her day off.I'm 42. when I was 23 with a 9/10 gf she'd never have done that.
>>77303969>if you've never fucked a plain chick who genuinely thinks you're a greek god then frankly you're still a virgin.You've never met a plain chick. They all think they deserve better.
>>77304109then you're as guilty as the women that only notice 8-10 men and think the average is a 9.I've seen it, men are just as guilty. men are so porn-rotted that a 6/10 man will only notice 7-10 women and seethe that the "average" woman doesn't want him.
>>77304132How would you rate Shelley Dubay in The Shining?I'd give her a 6/10, but I still think she's cute.
>>77304147in the shining she looked awful, partly cos she wasn't supposed to look glamorous, and also cos kubrick was a fucking overhyped faggot who had to terrorise her and make her life a living hell for the duration of the shoot to give her that exhausted and frightened look and performance.at her best she was absolutely gorgeous. in pic rel she's an 8/10.she was far too skinny and I'm into christina hendrixes but if Shelley had been a few kg heavier she'd have been a 10/10
>>77304147>>77304178even better without a fringe. fringes look awful unless it's a full zoey deschanel.
>>77303941>they don’t have time to look after themselvesExtremely tired fatass cope argument. Eating less does not take more time.
>>77304132Not fucking dogs doesn't make you a porn addict, it just means you have self respect. Ironically, dogfuckers like you are a big reason women's standards have skyrocketed. Dogs get fucked by some people that are not entirely malformed [citation needed] and think that this is the level they belong. Consequently, when actually attractive women see quasimodo get boned by the aforementioned average joe [citation sorely needed] they naturally seek to translate the gap between them and the abominable snowmen that masquerade as members of the weaker sex to what they feel they deserve from their prospect partners.
>>77304178Aight.Give me an example of an usually overlooked plain jane then.
>>77304178Anon specifically asked for you to rate her in The Shining and you dodged. I'd bang pic but that is not even remotely an 8. You're either a retarded femcel or a simp.
>>77304191>show me a picture of a plain woman>social media>movies & tv>plain womannext time you're somewhere with a large number of people, a supermarket on a busy day or something, rate every woman you see out of ten in your head. every single one. don't miss any, regardless of age, race, health etc.if your memory is shit, note it on your phone. just the number. 1-10.once you have enough to get an average, calculate that average.i guarantee that for most men, their "average" won't be 5.it'll be lower.we're so fried by social media, movies, tv etc that we're poisoned.you'll probably reach an average of 3-4 unless you're somewhere like a rave or a bar during fresher's week.because "average" means just that. average.so when you're somewhere very public and your "average" is lower than 5, then you had everyone's score lower than it actually should be.
>>77304194no, he named the film she's best known for so I'd know who he meant straight away.but you're right, I didn't rate her in that role, I just explained why she looked the way she did in that role.i'd rate her 6/10 too. in that role.objectively good face, but spoiled by her overly-skinny figure, terrible hair and the fact her character is a meek, exhausted, terrorised victim.movie roles are a dreadful measure of a person's attractiveness.
>>77304210Quit dodging and give him an example sis. You're trying way too hard to pretend men's standards and ratings are anywhere near as skewed as women's. Men rate roughly half of all women around their age as above average, while women rate 80% of men around their age as below average. "le just as bad!!!" doesn't work here, it's blatant gaslighting.
>>77304225that "statistic" is from dating apps.disregarded.surveys like that are only done by people whose mere participation fucks the objectivity.
>>77304210Or, you know. Just give me an example.I think most girls I pass by, unless they're fat or old, are cute. It's rare for me to see a skinny girl that really is very ugly to the point she's below a 5.
I don’t mean to incelluar post and all but it feels like there aren’t really single women, even the low quality ones have men waiting for them. They hop from man to man extremely quickly, dudes are basically out there on the rebound line waiting for their turn
>>77304228genuinely can't think of one, I'll be honest. I don't really think about women's attractiveness. I don't consoom any media and irl I ignore them unless they approach me first or I get a like on tinder from something I'd bang.I don't swipe on tinder, I wait til I get a like, then swipe until I find that like (nuke your distance to 1km, it'll still filter your likes in) and decide if I'd be up for banging them or not.I just have this argument with my friends all the time who complain they can't get x chick who they call mid when she's WAY more attractive than they give her credit and said friends are fat gamers who goon to tiktok sluts, jav or hentai
>>77304268I think you're just down bad, mang.
>>77304284what does that mean in white parlance?
>>77304234u just boring or ugly or both.
>>77304290It means you like uggos.
>>77304268>I don't really think about women's attractiveness.Then you have no business trying to weigh in on the subject of women's attractiveness you fucking retard, lmao.
>>77303927its all about not deeply thinking of killing her 24/7 and making the right gene mix for the kidsit doesn't matterI've seen lookers smelling like shit. just to me. Meaning my nose says "kids will be unhealthy and retarded"Also the 3 cool ladies in your country probably aren't models. If you go monogamous you want to laugh and shit. not suffer. have a partner in crime.you'll get tired of her looks eventually if you don't work for it. it's an efford thing. that's why stars cheat with uggos a lot. you'll think "fuck this alien looking bitch" after a while, and dig a gnome for a pallet cleanser. meat all day makes you want soup. it's boring.better to have food reserves at hand, for the nuclear winter
>>77304188you either never met a woman, retarded or arguing in bad faith. simply eating less for women over the age of 28 is not enough, that's why women who simply starve themselves to look thin look like shit if they're approaching middle-aged or already are - their skin is unhealthy and saggy, they slouch, they have low energy. looking good for a woman at that age takes active effort, just like feeling good and fit for a man takes active effort past that age.
>>77304147Prime Shelley Duvall was a looker and nothing will convince me otherwise. She was always unconventionally attractive, she looked waifish and delicate in a way most women can't pull off if they tryEven in The Shining, where Kubrick went out of his way to make her look harried and stressed out, she's still a solid 7/10
>>77304300So you’re saying women don’t have men waiting on the rebound?
>>77303927Women have more access to simps than ever before in the history of humanity. They don't have to be attractive. They will still get simped for by countless men who would have been totally out of their league 30 years ago.
>>77304097>toss her around like a dollNot when she's 200 lbs
>>77304388>7/10shut the fuck up you performative lying cunt. she was the female equivalent of young steve buscemi outside of the shining. In the shining, she looked like a literally retarded hag.
>>77304409Reminder that men literally like more women than they don't on dating apps. Shit is insane.
>>77304430Can't have a wreck without the dummy.
>>77304445Men are simple creatures, I have 4 friends that married their first ever girlfriend. Unless you're rich or high status, finding one and keeping her is the safest bet
>>77303938That's a 7/10 man with a 1.5/10 woman, and you know it.
>>773048367/10 man with a fat nose, rosacea, thinning eyebrows, extremely crooked teeth (brown teeth by the way) and thinning hairline?lol, okay buddy. He's a 5/10 at best.
>>77303927They're looksmatched, only a homosexual would think otherwise
>>77303927>Also in general most of the men were more attractive than their partner (I'm not gay) Why are guys settling for less?You can observe this generally in Western countries, i.e., Western Europe + Anglosphere. The reason is that most women just don't want to settle with guys on their level of looks. Women also are actively becoming uglier, by choosing to get tattoos and piercings. 80-90% of the people in my gym are men.I think at this point, a Western women is expecting the man to be 1-2 points more attractive on a scale from 1 to 10. Otherwise, things will just fizzle out and she will stop having interest. The only young Western couples you see are the ones were the man was willing to settle for a less attractive woman. And no, it did not use to be that way, 15 years ago women used to be hotter than their partners.
>>77304840>15 years ago women used to be hotter than their partners.All betabuxx
>>77303927Yes and no. As examples; Scarlett Johansson is indeed looking more and more like Sammy Davis Jr. as in Colin Jost's SNL joke, while Rhea Seehorn seems to see better dermatologists and is still looking fairly youthful-looking for 54.As with moids, foids seem to be on a spectrum of motivation and ability to avoid hitting the wall; although looksmaxxing has certainly trended more among moids recently.
>>77304841yeah, that may be the case, but now pretty much all men are worse off. Even if you are a 8/10 man you constantly have to look for the next pussy, because 8/10 women don't want to settle for you, even if you are otherwise successful.
>>77304840>And no, it did not use to be that way,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBJBBVbKjTkBeen like that since the 60s. You're a retard.
>Why are guys settling for less?Because women have the advantage still. Middle aged women and below average looking women will still get attention and can easily find a partner without much effort. For men its just not the same. This site like to think that women hit the wall and have coping mechanisms that men age better and nit pick super model types, when your average middle aged guy is balding and starts growing a gut. The dating market for men tanked after the creation of online dating and dating apps. Its the reason why looksmaxxing became a thing of schizo level obsession with looks.
>>77304838He's a 5 to 6, but his goblin wife is a 2 to 3.
>>773049705 to 6? Maybe 5'6".
>>77304836>That's a 7/10 man
>>77304436bro is handsome. what are you talking about?
>>77304843Go back to crystal cafe
>>77304097This guy fucks. Its about chemistry and desire. Ive fucked 4/10s and roasties that went berserker just from penetration while the most attractive ones were just a pain in the ass to fuck. I even think that perfection is boring and i actually prefer an average looking woman than a clone. Ofc i wouldnt fuck the goblina in the OP pic, but yeah, there has to be an appealing balance between chemistry and general attractiveness.>>77303927The normie culture has been praising women that were unkempt and the fatter and nastiest, the better. They confused the concept of "being normal and average" with "not taking care at all of themselves and just rolling with it". Gf is a bit chubby and thats great but she puts a lot of effort into not fully landwhaling. You can just go for a walk and spot a shit ton of young amorphous lardballs, its just sad and depressing, and its way worse when you realise those fat fucks probably get a shit ton of matches on tinder from guys who just roll with it because they are so fucking demoralised that they think they dont deserve better. Humans are turning into turkeys, unironically. Men are trying their best to look like models while women look like they are trying hard to look their worst. I think not trying to be attractive to your partner its fully blown disrespect and disdain for him/her.
>>77304178Nigga, shes disgusting
>>77304430Dyel spotted
>>77304097Shut up and go to bed, grandpa
>>77303927I’ve called my wife fat so many times I think she’s developed an eating disorder. I just wanted her to stop eating candy and exercise a bit…now she’s anemic.
>>77304109Your definition of 'plain' is probably different from his. Incels (You) normally mean a 7-8 out of 10 when you say 'mid' or 'plain'.
>>77303927Been saying that since the pandemic. I think the average height and weight of woman in America is like 5'5 and 170 pounds, I'm 6'1 and male weighed that much until like 21. I also live in Seattle, and I can't tell you how many times I've fucking gone out with a chick, get her clothes off, and she's hidden a fuck bunt under a well places belt, or her egg shape under a maxi dress. Bitches know how to excercise so theyre forever pulling this shit.Literally last time I pulled a fit chick was mexico, she was Wesley Snipes black, and trained MMA in Thailand, had a 6 pack and an ass you could play like a bongo
>this threadLmao, Americans are so done for.
>>77303927Dude looks like the white version of picrel with shittier teeth.
>>773061485'3.5" and 170lb, actually. literally ~40% fat.
>>77306186TUNG TUNG TUNG SAHUR
>>77306186Bharat excellencegirls with cannons can't resist
>>77304839Her actual looksmatch is floating facedown in the ganges
>>77306175Americans are immune to accountability. Especially women. Even when they jab themselves with ozempic to stop eating because they can’t control themselves without it they will blame the ozempic for them losing muscle mass and looking gaunt as if it has nothing to do with them neglecting exercise and continuing to avoid food with any actual nutrition.
>>77306147Post your definition of plain. (You won't).
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