This is the comment section from Kurzgesagt's video on ozempic. It's a good representation of the general discourse amongst normies now.A drug that basically cures obesity and the side effects are mostly a nuisance (maybe you'll have some gastric discomfort depending on what you eat) is sending thin normies into a spiral. This is basically skinny privilege genocide. Now normies will be forced to workout and gain muscle if they want to stand out, before all they had to do is exist, and this is driving them completely mental.It would be like if every manlet became 6'3 overnight. Imagine the massive seethe and cope and suicides from lanklets all around the world who could no longer cash in their height check for free pussy, it would be insane.
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Sorry Pfizer, not buying your cancer drug. Try harder
Do you need to stay on these drugs to stay thin or is it one and done?
nah everyone who takes this shit will just go back to being a fatshit whenever they stop
>>77306649>>77306654Cope
>>77306651You can be one and done if you keep your calories in check.
>>77306657I said, not buying your cancer drug.
>>77306649>>77306657>>77306676Liraglutide is generic and cheap now. Semaglutide will be generic in a few years. What will be your cope then? Oh wait, you faggots still claim statins are some big pharma conspiracy despite them all being generics costing literal pennies per pill.GLP-1 RAs have been in clinical use and heavily studied for 25 years at this point, but in just two more weeks the devastating hypercancer side effects will spontaneously materialize. Just wait.
>>77306651>>77306669the problem with these medications is how they work; they simply suppress your appetite/hunger but they don't make your fattybrain go away.
>>77306723Guess i'll just stay fat then, thanks.
>>77306696That's what your contractors want to avoid, 80% of amerimutts on GP = high demand = price stays high.I said, not purchasing your cancer drug.
>>77306646The worst is the little philosophical quips from retarded boomers who think that being fat or not is a moral judgement
>>77306646>It's disturbing the solution is yet another product >Lives in capitalism ????
I'm sorry but I like to eat and enjoy my food
>>77306723That's not a "problem", it's a feature. This is a subscription for fats who want to try being skinny. To truly solve the problem of weak willed fats we'd need sci-fi level brainwashing tech.
>>77306646Kurzmyass whatever his name is was already proven to be shills who take funds left and right from different organizations including big pharma so yes these people are justified in their skepticism
>>77306753It is. Your body is a representation of who you are as a person.
>>77306748>cancer drugWhy do you keep calling it that? AFAIK it hasn't definitively been proven to be an anticancer agent, although it likely does via improving metabolic health in general.
>>77306646Average american is a peasant retard that is spooked by anything that cant be described in a 7 word blurb. Average retard here is litteraly just reflexively screeching because any "drug" is bad because "drug". These same people are wignats prideful of European innovation BTW. Lmfao
>>77306723>but they don't make your fattybrain go awayIt does. Your desire for slop falls off a cliff and if you eat too much greasy shit you fuck your stomach.
Ozempic makes niggas look like they have AIDS
>>77306646>It would be like if every manlet became 6'3 overnight. Imagine the massive seethe and cope and suicides from lanklets all aroundNo it would be like every manlet became 6'3 but they all look extremely unnatural, disfigured and generally hideously fucked up to the point where everyone around them can tell that they're not natty
>>77306646So you can get healthy reasonably by getting proper sleep at night, exercising every day, and taking control of your diet by getting the ingredients yourself and making more wholesome food at home, within the year you can lay an immovable foundation and change your personality and character Or you can take the miracle drug that gives you a high that makes you lose your appetite and hollows out your bones Choice is yours
>>77306786Looool
>>77306786Not really that's crazy
>>77307277>So What's it gonna be HMM? HMM?>Morphs from a fatty into picrel
>>77306646you know what else cures obesity?not being a disgusting morally corrupt gluttonous beast
>>77307282Ugly people usually have ugly souls. I don't make the rules.
>>77306723That’s not entirely true. They’ll help resensitize you to insulin and help get your production of satiety-signaling hormones out of whack.With that being said most people don’t put in any sort of effort taking these drugs. They maintain a dogshit diet while on and continue that dogshit diet when they get off. All of these people will become fatter and more disgusting than ever.
>>77306786maybe 50 years ago, now and days the childhood obesity rate is like 50% or some shit, that is entirely out of an individuals control
>>77307332People are only ugly when they expose "the real" or do something especially heinous
>>77306786you can judge a person's health and physique just by looking at what's in their grocery cart. none of them would pass the health test if they were to do that.
>>77307332right, people who do test and peptides have such beautiful souls. lol
>>77306723Not to mention that overeating is a self-comforting behavior and when you take away one maladaptive soothing behavior then it will almost always be replaced by another to fill the same role. They used to get stressed out and gorge. Now they will do something else. Get stressed out and blow $1000 on hookers, or whatever.
>>77307332Homer Simpson gook ass nigga
>>77306646i'm tempted to go on it just to maintain my weight. It's a normal part of my life to be hungry every night for about 3 hours and it'd be nice to get rid of that
>>77307444These drugs seem to help with other vices too. A lot of people saying they stopped gambling, drinking alchohol, etc
>>77307464Take casein before bed nigga (assuming you lift)
>>77307523Placebo effect. It turns out you didn't need gook juice peptides, the gook juice was in you all along.
>>77306646People were alot thinner on average a mere 30 years ago, hopefully it makes people more health conscious as people are over starving themselves and getting weak bones and muscle loss.
>>77306786This.>>77307278>>77306753>>77307282Loving the butthurt
>>77307564Thanks for the meaningless post and worthless take.
>>77306646>This is the comment section from Kurzgesagt's video on ozempicWhy didn't you post a link?
>>77307564Thanks for the meaningful post and worthwhile take.
>>77306646>side effects are mostly a nuisanceGastroparesis and gallbladder issues aside, trading obesity for malnutrition because you aren't satisfying physiological hunger with a nutritious diet is hardly a nuisance. If you were on a good diet, consisting of whole foods, rich is all the macros, micros, antioxidants, etc. your body needs, you wouldn't need ozempic. You only need ozempic if you are stuffing your face with garbage, indulging in artificial, supernormal stimuli that doesn't accurately correspond to its nutritional value, and the result is stuffing your face with less garbage, but garbage nontheless. You may become thin if you reduce your pizza intake from 3 boxes to just one slice per day, but you sure as shit are not gonna be healthy and have optimal outcomes if that one pizza slice is your entire diet. There is more to healthy eating than weight.Yet again we try to take shortcuts by isolating and solving a mere symptom without looking at the whole picture and adressing the true underlying cause, and just like always, it may bring superficial results in the short term, but will inevitably fail and only make things worse in the long term. It's akin to "solving" type II diabetes with insulin, rather than not getting diabates at all. You can argue diabetes totally doesn't matter because you have your insulin shots, have fun with it. I'd rather not get diabetes in the first place, and I'd rather have a healthy diet in the first place. Try as you might, there's no free lunch.
>>77307562Not him but how does it help?
>>77306651You need to stay on them for life. You can also repeat the cycle of getting fat and losing weight.>>77306669If you need ozempic to put the fork down you're not counting shit.
>>77306792hey man what chapter of the talmud are you up to now? im also reading it, really interesting stuff
>>77307582I don't even thine it's butthurt. Every one of these threads is filled with posters that clearly don't understand board culture, almoat as if the whole thing's being astroturfed.
>>77308217>fatty loses weight >noooo youre supposed to keep eating 12000kcal per day and stay at 300kg bodyweight, this drug is baaaad for you
>>77308331>fatty loses weight by eating 2000ish kcal of whole, nutritious foods that actually satisfy their physiological hunger and lifestyle adjustments>the underyling cause has been solved, enjoys good health outcomes for decades to come, issue is closed forevervs.>fatty loses weight by pharmaceutically modifying his physiological hunger to be satisfied with 1500 kcal worth of of chocolate cake and pizza per day>exchanged obesity for malnourishment, is not meeting the RDA for various nutrients, lost significant percentage of muscle mass and bone density, etc.>genuinely believes this means his diet is good and the problem has been solved>in reality the underlying cause has not been and will not be adressed, other symptoms persist, new symptoms and side effects develop, will never enjoy optimal health outcomes everIf you don't understand the problem, you're a part of it. Hunger was never the issue. What you're trying to satisfy it with is. You can't see the forest for the trees.
>>77308217The drug kills your desire for slop and makes it a million times easier to eat healthy.You can take the drug AND eat healthy foods AND stay at a moderate deficit while hitting your macros. Shocker...Nice try though. Cool blog.
>>77308217>GastroparesisOnly happens if you don't titrate and take a retarded huge dose from the beginning. If you follow the default dosing protocol, it literally can't happen.>gallbladder issuesOnly happens if you don't drink water.
>>77307332Based
>>77308264You are like the archetypal 4chud>There is something positive being said about [X]>Therefore it is being SHILLED>So I will take whatever the opposite position is! This is called free thinking!>Also whoever is saying positive things about [x] must be a rabbi. You guys think you are such free thinkers but you're not and you are highly susceptible to manipulation by those who understand you
ozempic is dystopian as fuckoptimizing society for fat retards. nice dude.fertility rate falls for civilized peoples while we spend all of our effort and energy on the bottom 10% obese single moms
>>77308433>The drug kills your desire for slopVery interesting. Mechanism of action that suppresses the hunger for slop specifically? Can you point me to the literature that makes the distinction?>You can take the drug AND eat healthy foods AND stay at a moderate deficit while hitting your macros.There's no reason to be on the drug if you're eating healthy foods and staying at a moderate deficit. That's not the use case. The use case is fat retards eating shit, and they continue to eat shit, just less of it. You don't become a fatass from eating too many apples.>>77308438>Only happens if you don't titrate and take a retarded huge dose from the beginning. If you follow the default dosing protocol, it literally can't happen.Source?>Only happens if you don't drink water.No, increased risk of gallbladder issues from GLP-1 agonists stem from delayed emptying. That risk will be higher even with adequate water intake.
>>77307419>that is entirely out of an individuals controlAnd? It still is a representation of who you are, even if who you are was out of your control. It is not within a pedophile's control to be attracted to children, nor is it in psychopath's control to not have empathy. Both are shitty people nontheless. It's pretty obvious parenting has huge influence on what the person grows up to be, control or nor.
>>77306646Have you fatties considered eating less combined with moving more?
>>77308461reddit has better baits + rabbis always melt like this when called out. Maybe fix the zombie face side effects from taking this onco-drug and maybe you will get the amerilards hooked to it.
>>77308478>Mechanism of action that suppresses the hunger for slop specifically? Can you point me to the literature that makes the distinction?I'm talking from experience. If you don't want to believe me, I don't care.>There's no reason to be on the drug if you're eating healthy foods and staying at a moderate deficit.There is for me. Healthy foods can also be calorically dense. Nuts, meat, milk, etc. I've been struggling with obesity my whole life and this drug finally took me from overweight BMI to normal. Before this I'd always gain the weight back after losing a ton.Since you mentioned medical literature, I remember a study showing that 90% of fatties regain the weight after losing it when not aided by these drugs. If you think that's because we're all lazy and retarded, fine. I don't care. What I care about is that I'm finally healthy and I feel great.
>>77308510>I'm talking from experience. If you don't want to believe me, I don't care.Anecdotes don't constitute reliable evidence, sorry.>There is for me. Healthy foods can also be calorically dense. Nuts, meat, milk, etc.And this is exactly why anecdotes don't constitute reliable evidence. First you claim GLP-1 agonist totally made you stop craving garbage and crave whole foods instead. Now you change your story to totally getting obese on meat, milk and nuts. You're clearly being disingenuous, concerned only with justifying your choices, not the discovery of truth. Very typical.>Since you mentioned medical literature, I remember a study showing that 90% of fatties regain the weight after losing itYes, because the average fatty doesn't want to accept that losing the weight involves permanent lifestyle adjustments, that diet isn't a one time thing you do and forget about. You want it to be quick and easy, and now you have been given the illusion of it, that you won't let go of and will never accept the optimal solution because of it.>If you think that's because we're all lazy and retarded, fine. I don't care. What I care about is that I'm finally healthy and I feel great.And here is the core of the problem i described. All you care about is that you lost weight, you have officialy thrown in the towel and consider this to be the end of the story. You're wholly unconcerned with adressing the core issue, with the less obvious symptoms and potential side effects. You have your half-assed "solution" and will never reach the actual solution. The nutritional deficiencies will manifest later, the side effects will manifest later, but you're happy with your crash diet right now so it's all good. You're the kind of guy that quits drinking by picking up smoking.I hope you understand the problem with this approach before it's too late, for your own good.
>>77308539>Anecdotes don't constitute reliable evidence, sorry.If you want to be pedantic, first we need to define slop. I shan't be doing that because you have a thick skull and your deadset on your opinion.>you claim GLP-1 agonist totally made you stop craving garbage>Now you change your story to totally getting obese on meat, milk and nutsYes, so hypocritical of me. Because nuance is something that doesn't exist in life. Because you, the perfect mythical faultless human bean, has never eaten a bar of chocolate or a slice of peperonni pizza in your life. How can mere mortals compare to your perfect 12% body fat body (you should post it by the way, I want to experience awe) that has never consumed anything other than nourishment straight from nature with zero processing.You won't get it because desire is something only us imperfect beings feel. You, as a perfect God, would never!>The nutritional deficiencies will manifest later, the side effects will manifest later, but you're happy with your crash diet right now so it's all goodI'm not crash dieting. I'm on a 500-700 kcal deficit, lifting and hitting protein targets. But you can wish doom upon me if that makes you feel better.
>>77308354>nooooo if you eat 2500kcal per day instead of 14500kcal, youre malnourishing yourself>youre part of the problem ahhh
>>77308217You seem upset.
>>77306646>the side effects are mostly a nuisanceI thought that only ~60% of the weight lost was fat, and the rest was bone, organ and muscle tissue? I'd say dissolving your own skeleton is a pretty nasty side effect anon.
>>77308550>why yes, my 2500 kcal diet of pizza and chocolate cake is nutritionally complete>>77308555You seem fat.
>>77306646>It would be like if every manlet became 6'3 overnight. Imagine the massive seethe and cope and suicides from lanklets all around the world who could no longer cash in their height check for free pussy, it would be insane.Manlets can already get limb lengthening surgery, and the reaction is the same as knowing someone is on ozempic, which is pretty much just as obvious - a mix of disgust and pity. Everyone knows you're a genetic dead end already, the artificial phenotype change does nothing to change that.
>>77306646People are right to be skeptical but they really are miracle drugs. They will be seen in the same light as protein shakes or creatine a few years from now. A staple for 90% of people who care about health.
>>77308610>hormone receptor agonist will be seen in the same light as food but powderedProbably true, feels like everyone skipped biology at school.
>>77306669If you can keep your calories in check then you don't need a drug.The gluttonous beasts are not addressing the root cause.
>>77307419Well SOMEONE made the child fat. That someone is an individual.
>>77308433Beef and eggs kills your desire for slop. Try that instead.
There's this foid I really like. She was nice and plump, not a fucking whale, just perfect. She went on ozempic and she looks like a heroin addict now. Her cheeks have hollowed out and her ass and titties are sagging.
>>77308591nobody cares about complete diet but about fat loss
>>77306696Imagine simping for statins in the year of our Lord 2026, you truly are the goodest goy.
>>77308685Yeah. That's the problem. Without GLP-1 agonists, these two are pretty much inseparably connected, so a retarded double digit IQ monkey like you, entirely immune to nuance, is left with no choice but to change their diet and lifestyle if they want their fat loss for the best possible outcome, mercifully spared from the potential consequences of their retardation. With GLP-1 agonists, you can now suffer the full consequences of your retardation. It's a tragedy, really.
>>77308269I've been on this site forever but I realized that you guys are actually retards and the only thing that separated you from reddit is your writing style and that you are constantly complaining and are grasping for a god to save you because you pine for conherance and meaning across the board aka special Jewish hatred, aka separating us from them normies etc, aka a return to a fascist dream that never existed, aka blaming market forces on immigrants, aka everything that you do is essentially you take a super nuanced thing and then turn it into a flat across the board special secret enjoyers fantasy where THEY are controlling everything and enjoying the benefits of capitalism at the expense of YOU but this is a subtle illusion born from your lack. It's one thing to actually hate Jews in REALITY it's another to use Jewish conspiracy to fortify and stabalize your fantasy of conherance suck my dick newfags I've been here forwver nigger ass
>>77308478>Mechanism of action that suppresses the hunger for slop specifically? Can you point me to the literature that makes the distinction?GLP-1 receptors are found in reward-related areas of the brain. GLP-1 signaling can reduce palatable food intake and modulate dopamine/glutamate pathways involved in reward. That is why they are currently being researched as an anti-addiction drug because people are reporting less of an urge to drink or do drugs.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7848227/https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0031938424001677
>>77308633it's far easier to maintain than to eat at a deficit. my body goes full kamikaze revolt everytime i'm at a deficit
>>77307163>Your desire for slop falls off a cliff and if you eat too much greasy shit you fuck your stomach.This happens without the drug too, at least in my experience
>>77308617>food but powderedNot even the same molecules in your food, not to count heavy metal contamination and additives
>>77308685Your body does not hunger for something to just fill the belly. It hungers for nutrients.1000 kcal of french fries will never provide the same satiety signal as 1000 kcal of steak and eggs because steak and eggs have more nutrients. >but what if you use drugs to artificially suppress your hunger so that you only eat 800 kcal of fries?Then you have not solved the root problem of malnourishment. You can be both fat and malnourished.
>>77306651I wouldn't take it for more than a year
>>77308772It's just whey. You don't have to buy the stuff with crazy additives or even artificial sweeteners. Heavy metals have been mostly scaremongered, except for vegan powders due to the the small amounts normally present in produce being concentrated.You sound like the people lumping in protein powder and bars with shit like preworkout and weight loss supplements in those "protect the children" bills.
>>77306646I'm remaining fat to stand out. Soon being fat will be the only way to prove you're not an Ozempig. It will be a status symbol again.
>>77308833>Your body does not hunger for something to just fill the belly. It hungers for nutrients.What the fuck kind of hunger signaling do you have? Definitely not the kind a lot of other people have, which is why glp-1s are useful for them. Fullness is a huge factor in hunger signaling, and macros like protein and fat are going to go far further in satiation than things like magnesium or whatever, you crazy.
>sending thin normies into a spiral. This is basically skinny privilege genocide. Now normies will be forced to workoutThis has to be b8.
>>77306753It 100% is. If you are fat you are dumb and weak.
GPL1s proved that the fat positive campaigns really mainly just cope.Most fat people would push the button to just lose weight and that's fine but many are still in denial.Ozempic works for a lot of of people.Would I prefer them just to diet/exercise. Of course. They won't; but people take the easy way out all the time and GPL1s works for most people.
>>77306646The funny thing is food makers are now designing foods to still make you addicted to their slop even when on GLP1 drugs
>>77306723or, in other words, they get you through the hardest part of cutting.
>>77306646you incels scream bloody murder when talking about finasteride's 2% chance of making your dick soft, but a 5% chance of ozempic crippling you in some way is "a nuisance" lmao
>>77308951Low IQ
>>77308470Do you mean dysgenic?Anyways these are mostly nosequiturs. I have zero problems with being fat but think this is a good thing. It solved a problem. I don't see it creating problems. It's like curing malaria or something. We used science to ease human suffering. Yay!
I never really needed GPL1s to lose weight honestly.
When I want to lose weight, I just lose the fucking weight. This makes me superior to coping ozempigs. I have always been better than fat and unhealthy people with poor impulse control.
>>77309134no i did not mean that. and its pretty obvious i meant dystopian based on the sentence immediately following it.
>>77309340I guess. I don't see how it affects anyone else or society as a whole in a negative way.
>>77307443>I can only think in absolutesFucking mongoloid
