What could I hypothetically do with these things if I haven’t yet built up a decent baseline of strength to do this?
>>77313132Spinning your wheels like every memesthenics twink ever and coping about muh endurance muh street workout muh i can do it anywhere
>>77313132rings are pretty cool because you train all stabilizer muscles as wellwhich directly translates to, well, more stability, less injuries and generally "functional strength"your pic rel is relatively hardthe first movement you can work towards is a>ring muscle upwhich you likely need a few works to do a set properly (if you already can do regular muscle ups)generally you can train everything besides legs / ass effectively with rings
>>77313150Define stabilizer muscles and their exact role (you wont and cant) and how they supposedly contribute to this famed functional strength as opposed to a machine or dumbbell
>>77313152>Define stabilizer muscles and their exact role (you wont and cant)of course I can and will, retard>stabilizer muscles can be defined as muscles that contribute to joint stiffness by co-contraction and show an early onset of activation in response to perturbation via either a feed-forward or a feedback control mechanismjust because there is no "definitive" list of them doesn't mean they don't exist>and how they supposedly contribute to this famed functional strengthare you illiterate? i wrote that one word before your single neuron activation word functional strength>less injuriesi know this board is full of looksmaxxing 20something roidtranniesbut if you work out for health benefits"not falling" is one of the most important things you can do as you agei could link a bunch of studies that show that training with balancing exercises (rings ARE a balancing exercise) prevents falls by some big numberbut you'll just whine muh studies and never read them anyway(also most are for elders because the effect is the largest there)>as opposed to a machine or dumbbellmachines (usually) don't train balance and isolate the muscle too muchdumbbells are fine, not sure why you try to make this a false dichotomy!?
>>77313189>Didnt define or name them, no mention of role either in muh funkshonal strentth only strawman insults Prophecy fulfilled
>>77313197>Ctrl+f "name">1 result in new postyou only ask to "define" it>define: to determine or identify the essential qualities or meaning ofwhich I explicitly didanywayhere are the stabilizer muscles that you train (more) with ring muscle ups over even regular muscle ups (which are already good) >rotator cuffs>forearm flexors/extensors and pronator-supinator group>scapular stabilizers like serratus anterior, lower trapezius, rhomboids>and of course pectoralis major and biceps brachii as isometricbut seeing as you're an offended snowflake you're cry about this list as well
>>77313218>>rotator cuffs>>forearm flexors/extensors and pronator-supinator group>>scapular stabilizers like serratus anterior, lower trapezius, rhomboids>>and of course pectoralis major and biceps brachii as isometricNone of these do wha you claim
>>77313232and what exactly do I claim?like training rotator cuffs is standard pre-hab for many sportswhich you do for... injury preventionand your scapular stabilizers are involved in lifting anything unstable and prevent you from going into damaging positionsscapular stabilizers also counteract the typical rounded back slouch for desk jobsor catching yourself in case of a falland regarding muh functionaltraining the pronator-supinator group literally helps you to open jars
>>77313132Without a decent baseline of strength? destroy your shoulders for sure. Also height? Rings are quintessential manlet tool
>>77313132>why do I not just bench a lot like a normal personI'm not crazy you're crazy.>smears shit over faceSee I'm normal I'm doing exactly what I should be doing why aren't you naked I'm naked.
>>77313132What are the best affordable rings I can buy? These seem good, and I can easily add some slings/rope to increase the length of the rings. aliexpress.com/item/1005010653605088.htmlI don't want to spend $300-400 for some competition grade rings.
>>77313252Nta but you can train all of those at the gym
>>77313473>What are the best affordable rings I can buy?decathlonthe answer is always decathlontheir rings are like 30€ and decent>>77313479>Nta but you can train all of those at the gymof course you can, most gyms have rings...but yeah, you can do otherwise as wellthe problem is that most people generally don't bothercompound dumbbell or barbell exercises are usually reasonably good at hitting stabilizers as wellthe point of rings is that they train way more muscles at oncestabilizers are typically not the first to fail (well initially they do, but you quickly get there), so they don't limit your primary muscle gainsand why wouldn't you take the essentially free, added benefit?
>>77313132pull ups, dips, rings rutned out holds, l-sits, back levers
>>77313132Why even bench if you can just do dips?
>>77313770Upper chest
>>77313150>>77313152The big muscles stabilize as much as the small ones so every muscle is used to do it.I lately found rings again. My left shoulder/ side is weaker so I'd do barbell and dumbbell press and cope with it. One day I tried doing ring push ups in a relatively safe angle and surprise surprise, the weaker arm twitched like hell in the bottom part where I held and gave everything to really grip the rings and not twitch :DRings might not be a primary movement for building strength or anything, but that test proved me I need the rings as accessory immediately. Someone wrote it well that if you get good with rings, the barbell bench will feel like a smith machine.
Also rings and stabilizing on them is obviously about learning a new motor skill, not necessary about "stabilizer muscles" because that might sound like there are non-stabilizer muscles too and why would there be.
>>77313132They are a massive waste of time unless ur training specifically for them, they are better then nothing... But the instability is just needlessly dangerous as fuck and hard on your tendons for no return. Just do pull ups neutral grip
>>77313842>But the instability is just needlessly dangerous as fuck and hard on your tendons for no return.Are you serious. Not saying rings should be a main movement for anyone unless they train to be professional ring athletes, but you imply they are too dangerous because they are slightly inconvenient when you start?
>>77313132Not a whole lot. Rings can be fun but it takes a fuck ton of time. It's a lot easier to build the muscle first then work on utilizing with rings after.
>>77313132Chinups and hanging knee/leg raisesDips, rows, rear delt flyes and LsitsPushups, chest flyes and ab rollouts^^^ arranged by height of the rings
>>77313132>if I haven’t yet built up a decent baseline of strength to do this?this is literally elite level straight up arm push strength and it takes years of consistent regular practice for some people and it can be performed (yes, even the straddle variation, not even the full thing) by less than 1% of the population, what do you think?
>>77313842>and hard on your tendonsso they're amazing? tendons only grow under heavy strain
I'd recommend doing sets of negatives and slowly progressing to full reps. Barring legs I'm switching to a full rings/calisthenics routine. I already have a good strength baseline with a weighted calisthenics routine consisting of 70x9 weighted pullups and 45x12 weighted dips atm. I'm switching it up because I've grown bored of just lifting weights
>>77313132build up a decent baseline of strength to do that?