Was Greasing the Groove just a bunch of Russian disinformation put out in an effort to weaken Western athletes with a bunch of junk volume? It doesn’t work.
>>77317985>Russian disinformationNever attribute to malice that which can more readily be explained by incompetence.>It doesn’t work.It does in fact, but it's very hit/miss depending on the individual. It's just about having more fresh reps to focus on technique more, which is proven to help, but that's why it's not gonna do much for folks that have good technique already.
>>77317985Hold on you actually lift and aren't some dumb jew who gets mogged by a steroid lesbian?
>>77317985Misportrayal mainly. In Pavel's case it is deliberate and he is a grifter.All gtg does is increase neuromuscular effeciency. It doesn't give you more endurance it doesn't give you more mass it just helps you get more out of the mass you have. Which is useful if you're in something that has weight classes or hard weight limitations where putting on more leanmass is not an option or a net detriment. It does not last forever or stave off the need to train closer to failure for long before you start to actually lose mass. So it is incredibly niche and horrible outside that niche.
>>77317985For exercises that follow complex motor patterns, Grease the Groove can make sense. Either way, he didn't invent anything; he just came up with a fancy name. After all, if you practice playing the piano every day, don't you get better?
Strength is a skill
No. Greasing the groove does work but it works less than physics. You can grease the groove pull ups all day but at the end of the day what’s going to make you better at pull ups is becoming stronger and lighter. So in so far as greasing the groove is not the optimal way to build strength it’s sub-optimal.
>>77318032>Never attribute to malice that which can more readily be explained by incompetence.exactly what I would want everyone to think if I was evil
>>77318653This. Very based take.
>>77318601Should I switch to HIT
>>77317985>>77318050That's basically it, neuromuscular efficiency. Myonuclear permanence also lasts for many, many years. It comes down to someone becoming better at highly specific movements by doing said highly specific movements more often. Definitely not a difficult concept. Would grease the groove help you specifically as an alternative to eating big, periodization, and progressive overload? No. Would grease the groove help athletes that are some of the best in the world achieve a slight edge in their weight class, allowing them to take an olympic gold instead of silver? Very possible. I don't consider it niche, since it can be applied to top athletes in a wide variety of sports, but it is limited to highly specific movements with very little carry over into other sports if you cross train. Whereas plyometrics for example carry into just about every sport that involves running or jumping.
>>77318032>Never attribute to malice that which can more readily be explained by incompetenceThis is one of those very stupid sayings such as "Never judge a book by it's cover." No, you should judge a book by it's cover, because the cover tells you what's inside. And never discount malice from someone's intentions, ESPECIALLY today with so many resentful and malicious leftists running around everywhere.
its for more practice. why are u guys such dumb fucking retards? sport players do it all the time they jsut dont label it GTG
>>77317985>It doesn’t work.It does, ask any actual athlete.>>77318032>Never attribute to malice that which can more readily be explained by incompetence.Millennial take. In reality it's almost always malice.
>>77318829>Would grease the groove help you specifically as an alternative to eating big, periodization, and progressive overload? No.Sure it would.If you can't do enough pull ups to grow, getting heavier won't help you. In such cases, GTG is the solution of choice.
Johnny Pain prescribes this in his Greyskull method. You do daily sets of pullups and pushups in addition to your weightlifting sessions.
>>77317985I've never tried it myself, but I can see it working in theory. Just choose a movement, and do a massive amount of high quality volume with it.
This reminds me of something I never tried. I saw Dan John suggest alternating mass cycles with his "easy strength" (basically just GTG). It sounds like old-school Soviet block periodization. >get stronger by improving movement efficiency in a strength block>use your newly-increased loads to better stimulate hypertrophy in a mass block>go back for another strength block and use your newly-embiggened muscles to further increase your loads >etcI don't really see much periodization in bodybuilding conversations. Is the juice worth the squeeze in that context? I guess if it yielded more benefits, people would be doing it. Does anyone at all do block periodization anymore?
>>77318653>>77318884>>77319913The world isn't generally good or bad, it's generally lazy, stupid, and doesnt like change. If you want to be miserable making the assumption everyone hates you, well that sounds like some little bitch shit. Let go of your retarded pride and accept that it is instead much more likely that no one gives that much of a shit about you & they're just stupid/lazy/selfish/etc.
>>77320340Easy strength is amazing but you won't get huge with it
>>77318884At this point it's neither negligence or malice it's apathy. People not caring if the information they spread is incorrect or they know it's incorrect doesn't mean they're malicious it just means they don't give a fuck and care more about making money/their career. In truth this is probably closer to real evil. Not some spiteful jew of malta type. The other form of evil that rules this century is self righteousness and invariably leads towards cruelty.
>>77320412Well yeah, that was the whole thing with the periodization. The claim was that alternating blocks of easy strength with blocks of hypertrophy training (e.g. mass made simple) would have a synergistic effect that would enhance both. I don't know anyone who does block periodization like that, but I know it was popular in powerlifting circles in the past, so I'm not sure if it's just fallen out of vogue or if it's actually less effective than other periodization strategies.My lifestyle right now doesn't really allow for the frequency that easy strength demands (work travel), but maybe I'll give it a go someday if that changes. I liked easy strength when I tried it.
Read Yuri Verkhoshansky
Read John McCallum
>>77318050Everything is a niche you moron. Some niggas, do calisthenics, some do power lifting, some do plyometrics and kettle bell shit. What works for one doesnt work for other. You train different for everything. Of course grease the groove won't increase your bench but it will skyrocket something like pull ups for example. Train accordingly
>>77317985I dont know what this is but if this is the same guy who said kettlebells is best for strength then this just proves the fitness community is by far the easiest community to scam. I wish i came up with the ice bath bullshit first
>>77320578>same guy who said kettlebells is best for strengthHe never said that
>>77320578Kettlebells give you the 'what the hell' effect
>>77320561You're as dull as the "it's not niche guy" who went onto describe it may be applicable to 0.01% of the population because it doesn't matter to anyone else.Now here you are saying it's not niche it's niche within a niche. Just think before you post Jesus.
>>77317985Afaik multiple studies have corroborated the only thing that matters for hypertrophy is weekly volume, and so GTG should be valid and equivalent volume. Obviously with the assumption you are also getting enough rest days
