>these are the peak results of blasting from age 14grim look for roidtrannies
>>77319986That's what happens when you don't build a natty base first.
>>77319986there are no shortcuts. you either die on gear or look like a lesbian
>>77319986he would have kept some gains if he didn’t fully embrace the degen california LA lifestyle
>>77320013Honestly, aside from the gay clothing and accessories, he looks fantastic for almost 60.
>>77320019His roided enlarged organs torso is too big for his arms now
>>77320025His torso's fine. He's 6'3. His arms could be bigger , but it's not a big deal.
>>77320013he probably has HIV
>>77319986whos that jewish accountant?
>>77320019>tattooslooks like he's been rolling in pig shit
>>77321107AI tuning filters do that.
>>77319986Why does this happen? If someone hops off roids, obviously they can't maintain the muscle mass anymore, but shouldn't it drop down to around their natty limit?
>>77320025you're an absolute fucking retarded moron nitwit
>>77321116It drops below because you're not producing natural testosterone anymore.
>>77321128But the physiological process of the body destroying excess muscle tissue and losing your gains takes time. For instance you can about 2 weeks without exercising before you even start to lose muscle mass. And yeah, your natural test production plummets, but it does rebound after the exogenous supply is taken away. It should still stabilize and I would THINK you'd still be able to hold on near the natty limit
>>77321134There's a few things going on here at once with Clav:1. He uses tren but is too stupid and lazy to work out regularly or eat right. His gains were purely from roids.2. Roided muscles look bigger than they actually are because they store more glycogen. They begin to deflate very quickly when off roids, even before muscle atrophy.3. Clav uses AI to edit his photos. He was never that muscular to begin with. He was always a DYEL.
>LeftPumped in a bathroom with favorable lighting, flexing, probably on a pump diet, good angle, good camera lens position>RightMore of a fishhole camera lens effect focusing on the wrong place, no pump, poor clothing choice, ect.This may shock people who never work out but you can work out and bloat up a little with salt and look like the guy on the left, then the next day you can degen twitch stream playing viday dehydrating yourself and look like the right.
>>77319986Keep in mind the left picture was obviously taken with long focal length (proportionally smaller head/nose and bigger neck) plus it's most likely filtered and doctored. He never actually looked like this.
>>77321134I'm pretty sure I've heard of it shutting off your testosterone production for the rest of your life, like there is no rebound, but I also haven't used exogenous hormones.Are people really trading their testicles for an instagram following?
>>77321316Some people recover their natural T levels, others don't. I'm not a roider so I can't comment why but my best guess is that it depends on whether they did post cycle therapy, or if they were just retards that blasted for years with no idea what they were doing until they suffered complete testicle atrophy.
>>77319986This makes me worried I don't even have as big of a frame as I thought and that it's just all the extra muscle that makes me look bigger.
>>77321432Lmao at this muscle nerd. Wouldn't be so big without your muscles eh? Bet you couldn't even lift without muscles.
>>77321316>trt is noticeable but is hard to get big>1.5-2x+ trt dose plus other steroids is widely considered an intermediate dose to be doing all the timeIf you were more into lifting culture and sports in high school and college you would know that natties who lift seriously are going to mog most roiders trying to avoid side effects but it just takes a while.
>>77321438Nah I mean if I cut hard and lost maybe 1lb of pure muscle would I look way smaller? I'm pretty sure it's back+core+deadlifts btw if you want to look more like a dorito.
>>77321447Pull ups and OHP and shrugs for best frame
>>77321450I kind of assumed that most people would be doing more bench/ohp. I wonder how much of the deep core muscles and fat add to it.
>whats pump
>>77320026>He's 6'3Is he really? From the vids and pics I've seen I always thought he was 5'8 or 5'10". Does he do some looksmaxing bullshit to reach 6'3"?
>>77321127Your mother is a whore and your breath stinks.
>>77321711Leg lengthening surgery, also he lies a lot
>>77321711Batista is almost as tall as Randy Orton who is 6'4 or 6'5.
>>77319986>>77320013KLOK
>>77322712>Randy Orton who is 6'4 or 6'5That's "billed" height AKA fake, mark.
