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>Carbs and sugar
>Spikes glucose levels
>No real noticeable health benefits
>High calories
>Awful macros
>Adds nothing for gains
>Tastes like shit
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They literally use chemical compounds found in fruits for a lot of cancer killing drugs kek
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Yes, sugar made from beets and sugarcane that is bleached and refined using industrial chemicals is surely better.
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>>77322028
He probably lives in some north euro shithole where they get shipped gassed unriped fruit.
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>>77322179
Wdym? Euros love fruit.
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>>77322012
>High calories
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>>77322183
not really. Europe prefers dairy.
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>>77322012
>>Carbs and sugar
Are good for you
>>Spikes glucose levels
Not true due to fiber
>>No real noticeable health benefits
Vitamins and sugar are healthy
>>High calories
Lower in calories than most other food
>>Awful macros
Mostly sugar and vitamins and fiber which are healthy
>>Adds nothing for gains
Helps with hydration and general health
>>Tastes like shit
Tastes good
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>>77322203
Every single counter point you made is easily disprovable in 5 seconds with a quick google search. You must be brown
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>>77322012
>No real noticeable health benefits
Supreme bait.
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>>77322205
disprove it then, fad diet faggot.
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>>77322012
split an orange and a persimmon with my friend while sitting in the sun smoking and listening to van zandt. that alone did more good for my health than n years of lifting
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>>77322267
because you're a mentally weak faggot
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>>77322267
Brt you fuckboys were splitting peaches afterwards.
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>>77322012
Post body
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>>77322017
Im gonna put my sugarcane up your ass
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>>77322205
>grok, does fruit taste like shit?
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>>77322012
Hmm so that's why they're so tasty. Fuck yeah.
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>>77322500
lol, you won't do shit lil' dumb niggie
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>>77322012
Fruits are more nutritious than any vegetable with less risks and should totally replace them
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I EAT KIWIS SO I CAN SHIT MASSIVE LOGS THAT DONT FLUSH AT WORK
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>>77322012
when u actually get lean ull realize u actually need carbs for ENERGY
who am i kidding u will never get lean kek
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>>77322012
>tastes like shit
Yes, when your palate has been destroyed by fast and ultra processed food, fruit probably does taste like shit. Overall, this is a really terrible troll, but you put in the effort, so here’s your (You).
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Awful bait
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"Carbs bad" is a psyop to pacify the masses about their living conditions.
80% of "common sense" and so-called "expert" advice is only based on helping the wagie masses adapt to their servitude, not actually thrive.
GLP-1s aren't about 'muh genetics' or 'muh food noise' but about muting the nervous system relief of ultra-processed foods which were developed to provide cheap comfort to the exploited publlic.
Carbs aren't making people fat, low pay, insecurity and chronic stress are adding pressures to the public that seek outlets. The system is effectively tapped out of ways to soothe, so we're effectively putting the masses through 'dopamine austerity' as they try to salvage what's usable from the people. The demonization of carbs (and even dietary fat) is about hiding the fact that inactivity is literally killing people. We've known for a long time what health actually looks like, but healthy people can stand up to abuse so we can't have that. The focus is on keeping the poors coping with the abuses, rather than actually being strong enough to challenge any of it.
Why don't the people rise up against overtly abusive governments? Because they're fat, sick, and stupid as a calculated outcome, and that's impossible to ignore in our current age.
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>>77322861
Your entire premise is destroyed by the fact that never would corpos or elites want to make carbohydrates villified for the average person since they're the cheapest most convenient way to feed their cattle out there
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>>77322012
I love fruit
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>doesnt tell us the alternatives
you had one job
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Paul Saladino is fruitmaxxing. That should tell you everything
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>>77322864
nuh uh the big evil corpos want everyone eating nothing but steak and grass fed butter every day!!

lol
but yeah just look at india since they're a literal slave race and they eat vegetarian slop, that's what the nwo wants for everybody
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>>77322861
that's nice, carbs still make people ravenously hungry and cause diabetes and obesity, and the removal of carbs from fat people's diets reverses their condition without fail.
>muh glp1 fud
Lmfao, let me guess, statins are a big pharma conspiracy to give people dementia, right freak?
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>>77322864
Great point, but this is actually very much part of it.
The elites aren't exactly a monolith, and a non-trivial part of the whole carnivore thing is a play by dairy/meat farmers to fight against the 'net zero' nonsense basically attempting to legislate them out of business. (Which I'm pretty sympathetic to)

But when it comes to carbs >>77325104 correctly points out the downsides of populations using them for fuel for sedentary lifestyles. It was "good enough" for factory work, but dietary needs have changed alongside society shifting.

> Lmfao, let me guess, statins are a big pharma conspiracy to give people dementia, right freak?

I haven't looked into statins at all, but medicine as a whole is quite the mess because of the above and similar dynamics. The problem with people in 'alternative media' spaces is that they often oversimplify things. Working interventions can still be part of bigger problems. Not everything fits neatly into "useless & harmful" and "beneficial & harmless" like the 'outsiders' like to pretend.

Because at the root of all this is the fact that lifestyle matters. Which as I originally pointed out has a LOT to do with culture, working conditions, and society. That part of the picture is conspicuously absent from mainstream (and alternative) mainstream discussions about health in ways that are definitely illuminating.
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>>77322012
Go away psyopnist. Fruits are the best carb source by far.
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>>77325104
carbs do not cause obesity or diabetes
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>>77326175
Carbs cause obesity and diabetes.
If you eat low carb it is impossible to get fat or develop diabetes. If you have diabetes already as a consequence of carbohydrate consumption, low carb diets invariably cure it.
It is reasonable to conclude, then, that low carb diets are the default human way of eating, and addition of carbohydrates is unnatural and damaging.



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