>fitness tubers say doing benchpress with arms flared out will injure shoulders>must bring ups in at an angle>try this>now I really do have pain in shoulderswhat do
What I've found is that Ill tuck too much and end up bringing the bar too low which puts stress on my shoulder. Most comfortable angle is still about 45 degrees or 50 from my torso.
>>77326090I used to do bench with flared elbows and it resulted in shoulder joint pain. I switched to lowered elbows and I don't get shoulder joint pain but the lift is weaker and also I get a different pain in my delts, but it's not as bad as the joint pain and it seems to be getting less and less over time.
>>77326090>Look at small twink femboy>Small twink femboy tells you to do x>You do it because gayboy femboy twink has 3 million subscribers>Hurt yourselfNo refunds
>>77326090Your body automatically does the best most comfortable form when you lift heavy, you don't need to watch youtubers.Just do what feel comfortable and lets you lift more weight
>>77326114STOP DOING THIS
>>77326090Literally any time I get shoulder pain all I have to do is:>reverse bench varies grip widths working up from 50% 10rm or less if injured>facepulls and or high rows(upright or normal/cable)/Y raises etc >stiff arm pushdownsFirst you gotta use low weight and feel it in your shoulders. And if you jump up in weight too fast you will not get the desired recovery, might make it worse(these can be helpful or especially damaging), get nothing out of it besides improving the weight moved and making 20% gains by neglecting mmc and extreme weak point training. This is basically all recovery and rehab shit, the bench form depends highly on your biomechanics and how you interpret lifting ques. I personally do all of my prs with my hands well outside of my shoulders.
>>77326090I'm also supposed to be pushing back with my legs and arching my abdomen but I dont feel anything
>>77326156You are not lifting enough to feel anything
>>77326156If you go too low on the bench while also trying to move a lot of weight, it loads your shoulders mostly. If you only do 100% rom you will probably be lacking in pecs. Prison reps are tried and true just don't do baby reps that barely do anything. Whenever you are trying to change your form don't ego the rep, if the bar falls just fail it.
>>7732615911.5kg dumbbell, I feel it in arms and chest
>>77326168>11.5kg dumbbellYeah that was my point
>>77326168oh and shoulders too now that I followed the dubious advice
>>77326168STOP DOING THIS
>>77326090I thought we solved this the last time you posted this image... of course this skinny DYEL twink who looks like Elliott Rodger is wrong about everything. Why do you keep posting this nobody? No one cares what he thinks.
>>77326259first result googling for dumbbell bench press pictures with the angles highlighted
>>77326169not same anon i do 28-30kg dumbells and i have problems getting into position. I know this gay fag 'push them with your knees thing' but it doesnt work out most of the time. 10 days ago i got slightly hurt doing it and for the next week i was doing gay machines. Does it get better? I didnt experience any problems climbing to 30kg. Now i lowkey dread pushing them on position but it feels so fucking amazing lifting them all braced and ready to push i lowkey get hard while i push locked in.
>>77327286>know this gay fag 'push them with your knees thing' but it doesnt work outKek you cant even push dumbbells up with your legs ? Just quit lifting you BITCH
>>77327293yea bro you totally got me, my legs cant push 30kg dumbells but they can walk the 85kg hog that i am. I just cant i dont know wtf to do.
>>77326090every fag with a bit of noob gains in a fitness influencer nowyoull be better off taking /fit troll adviceor ask ai, thats what they do anyways
>>77327302Just take estrogen and become someones bitch already
>>77326090>same thread, still stupid as fckdie mthr fckr
>>77326099This right here. Flared elbows really activates chest the best but it 100% will wreck your shoulders. You will get pain in the front of your shoulder and only tucking to 45 degrees will stop it from progressing. Don't flare your fucking shoulders. Depress and retract scaps too or else.
>>77326090New range of motion/variation under near maximal weight is the biggest cause of injury. It's not that the one movement is necessarily more dangerous, it's just because the body had not adapted to that movement at that intensity. Like you're used to standing curling 45# dbs and you decide to do preacher curls today. Except now, when the weight is heaviest, as in moving perpendicular to the floor, your bicep is fully stretched rather than contracted to a 90 degree elbow joint. The bicep has never had to do that and you tear the tendon at the bottom of the lift and say "but what? I can curl these 45's". Sure. But you needed a few sessions to build up your preacher curl to that weight.
The key to not hurting your shoulders is to first of all build them up outside of the bench press by training all three heads of the deltoid plus the mid back plus internal and external rotations. The second is to stop trying to bench straight up and down, picrel
>>77326090If you take advice from YouTubers You're already not going to make it. All adherents to influencers Do so because they lack the mental fortitude to follow basic intuition
>>77327510>be delusional about how strong you are>intuition tells you to load 2 plate on squat your first day>ack your knee/back/hipMany such cases
>>77327512Thanks for proving my point.
>>77326090Bench press brings your arms too far back anyway, you should be laying on a flat surface instead
>>77327515You are welcome
>>77327336how does it feel being the bottom on every interaction you had in your life?
