Why is fitness community flooded with so much advice that contradict each other?It's just so difficult for me to acquire some helpful knowledge that will help me progress efficiently and build an aesthetic figure. Could you give me some reliable sources like books/internet sites etc.?
>>77326928Honestly, do the 5x5 routine from the sticky. It works. Then as you get more experience you can throw more things in.
R/fitnessR/lose itI lost 44kg because of reddit People just shitpost here, even tho I’ll get trashed for this truth
Nothing you read or see or watch will make a change or difference. As a noob you should spend your first months having a "feel" of things while obviously progressively overloading, run splits for 6 weeks, try different barbell dumbbell and machine movements, stretch, see how your body responds to different variationsBy the end of the first year you should have a good idea what your body is comfortable with while also making good progress given you eat sleep well and push yourself hard But who am i kidding you watched one too many seinen motivational garbage and want to look like gookychan the 7' super soldier with a 10pack abs that tears through Space time continuum
Buy an AI like GPT, Gemini or Claude, give it your fitness stats like height, weight etc. and it will literally give you 1000x better advice than even the smartest man on /fit/.
>>77326955Yeah dude just buy a subscription to the glorified search engines that gets data from websites you'll use anyways
>>77326941>>77326937>>77326935I've been training split for half a year and I feel great! My body is finally starting to look a little less like a corpse from a morgue but I fear that i will stop progressing at some point. My diet is very modest because I study at an Orthodox theological seminary, where for half the year we observe a strict fast, and for the other half we are mostly served low-quality ham. The food is also generally very greasy and lacking in fruit. However, I do supplement with vitamins, protein, creatine, and collagen.I also don’t sleep much, because the day here ends very late and starts early. Now that the summer break is beginning, I’m planning to use it to fix my sleep schedule.
>>77326965>I do supplement with vitamins, protein, creatine, and collagen.You're extremely retarded and ngmiJust buy proper food
>>77326968The point is I cannot buy anything because I'm imprisoned in the seminary. I know how to cook healthy food but I can do it 3 out of 12 months in a year- I'm suplementing myself only to prevent scurvy
>>77326981>I'm imprisoned in the seminaryMatthew 17:21, you shouldn't say stuff like that. Just legumemaxx and eat sardines and you will be fine. Also im pro-lent but i can't do it because i'm too weak but I'm orthodox Christian aswell
>>77326999Ohh that is a different topic! I love fasting and I think it's mandatory in order to grow spiritually, but in case of my uni the fasting is used as an excuse to cut down on living costs of clerics in order to get higher salaries for the authorities but let's not dive too deep into this ok? If we were a monastery that wouldn't be a problem but when you have to study it becomes a bit complicated...
>>77326963It's not about random info, the AI can use your data, combine your foods, routines, supplements to create new information. Specifically for you
>>77326955You do realize that all those AI will just spit out a randok shit from reddit?
>>77327020It can't do any of that. At best, there was someone on some forum online with similar stats and it will repeat whatever was adviced to that person.
>>77327017>in order to get higher salaries for the authorities but let's not dive too deep into this okI know how bad things really are don't worry, i'm in the cessation of ecclesial communion. Under the eccumenical laws (Canon 15). Try not to become like them because all they do nowadays is just betray the faith and promote Ecumenism. Anyway you can try x3 full body or upper/lower x4 per week but eat more in general especially during lifting days on fasting days.
>>77326928This is only a modern "social media" fitness issue. Fitness really was solved already. Go look up any book by a bronze era bodybuilder. The best ones are probably...>Strength & How To Obtain It, by Eugen Sandow>The Way To Live, by George Hackemschmidt>The Key To Might & Muscle, by George F. JowettBetween all of these I doubt you'll find any conflicting advice. And that which you find in modern advice, keep in mind, all influencers nowadays are basing their shit off empirical observations made during their own training(which is a flimsy case study at best) or they're usually basing it off a single study, which is dumb, but also, it's not like fitness tips are gonna totally fuck you up. Take the wisdom of the ancients as whats set in stone and experiment with what interests you from modern stuff cause it's not 100% bs, just the way its being sold to people is.
I just want to say to the future-clergy brothers ITT, that you're gonna make it.
>>77327028>>77327024>still being a AI peasants in 2026ngmi
>>77326928Scientific method, dumbass
>>77326928Everything in life sounds contradictory. It's on you to do further research and figure out how everything relates to everything else. If you're low iq just give up
>>77326965How can you get creatine but not eggs? Did you snuggle a load in when your started? In any case, you can essentially eat as many eggs as you want without health consequences, they'll get you calories and protein. If you get some chickens to care for that's pretty monkly activities, but I guess that's not up to you.
>>77326965You absolutely need to make sure you are getting enough protein or you're just spinning your wheels.
>>77326928The world is full of bad actors and people make more money if you're fat and sick so shitty advice is abundant
>>77326928Full body 4 days a week 2 working sets to failure not counting warm up set highest intensity possible. double progression scheme which just means u move up weight once u hit ten reps of your first set. Remember, the ONLY real growth stimulating reps are the slow grinders if u aren't reaching a point where u either slow down immensely or go to failure ur not gonna grow. Also you want to eat at a 300 to 400 caloric surplus for a slow bulk with at least 1 g of protine per pound of body weight. Take 15g of creatine a day as well. Once you bulk about 20 pounds over the course of a few months you can cut and then rebulk keeping the majority of your muscular gains for a net gain overall and u just continue to do that until you die. Also, machines and barbells are the exact same except for how convenient it is to load weight and also what your body feels good to do and what ur built for. The big 5 are fire if you have the right proportions and can literally destroy your life if you don't take them seriously while machines don't really have that kind of risk while being super stable.
>>77327017If ur gonna fast for spiritual benefits you might as well meditate an hour a day for esoteric gains you cannot even imagine
>>77327225Op here: It's because we can buy things but we cannot use the kitchen ik it's stupid
>>77326955>better adviceTotally
>>77327514That's how retarded /fit/ is. Chat is better. You give retarded advice and look like shit.
>>77327598Ok
>>77326928>adviceITS SALES PITCH YOU MORON
>>77326928Because exercise has been solved, there's no new information to share. So people just make shit up to get attention and sell you something.
>>77327682Your post is eloquent its brevity. Good job.
>>77327690This pretty much. Getting jacked, losing weight, all the basic info is available to the world at large. There's some min maxxing you can do if you're really concerned about being as efficient as possible but most people should be expected to make good newb progress in just a year. Following fit fluencers for the newest trends and doing a new diet every month is how a lot of people doom themselves to spinning their wheels
>>77326928>Why is fitness community flooded with so much advice that contradict each other?Because despite all of our advances in science health has such a large genetic rng lottery component that a lot of advice doesn't always work for everyone and it can be hard to nail down exactly what works for you personally without trial and error.
>>77326928Most exercise science studies are conducted like dogshit because there are simply too many confounding factors that affect muscle growth, you would need millions in funding to produce a sample set large enough to have any meaningful results.We understand the fundamentals and if you follow those you can then tweak what you're doing to work better for you.
>>77327884Your post is grammatically incorrect in its construction. You tried.
>>77328457Sorry you’re upset
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>>77328464Lol its you again. Spend less time again>doubles downDont care. Post and replies hidden. I'm sorry you're so upset
>>77328467>jus b urself bro
>>77326928Because there is no single “correct” approach beyond the things that actually matter. This doesn't make it more complicated; it makes it simpler, because you don't have to worry about the details.
>>77326928Go through the whole catalog of actual discussion in 15min
>>77326928I have a meeting to attend in the sauna right now so if you wish to participate then just meet me there after the next set and make sure to wear something appropriate because it might be a while.
>>77326928>powerlifting program + looking in the mirror to add shit>not being david goggins about cardio and legs unless you need to>even if you eat like a fatty you are still making progress as long as you lift but if you never go above +500cal you will never get bigAnd there ya go I just saved you several months of progress in a year's time.
>>77326928>Why is fitness community flooded with so much advice that contradict each other?in a nutshell, because more than one thing works
>>77326955unironically this. You just need to be good at prompting and stick to the planI let gemini and claude design my training routine and i got so much stronger/leaner and fitter the last 6 months than ever before. Yes a real coach is better but much more expensive. if it is not about technique ai is good.
>>77328583did you pay for the ai and also how long have you been training for?
>>77326928Because 99% of these people don't have any actual schooling biology.The time they spent shitposting about things they have no clue about, they could spend reading just the most basic books. Instead, they spend the same amount of time and mental effort it would take to actually learn these things, on constantly trying to push ideas that sabotage themselves and others.Unreal when you think about it.
>>77328598i got gemini for free from uni and now pay for claude. I had lots of training experience so i guess i get to talk at a whole different level than a newby)i ldid olympic liftting and strengh from 16-19 (110 cj/90kg snatch), mostly did cardio during early uni years 5k <19 min, 1:35 half) and in the last 5 years started getting into bouldering and climbing a lot where i now built most of my muscle, am 27 now. Lots of friends commented on how big and lean i got in the last half year before i wasnt scrany but now i look like i liftI mainly used volume sessions(4 boulders 8 times with 2 min pause with roughly 15 moves.) on a 45° spraywall to built my muscle, can post bodypic and description of training if someone wants. I also used ai to pick my supplements. Mainly used creatine, betaallanin, b,d,k vitamins, magnesium, zinc and taurine and ofc whey.. but thats pretty standard and you shouldnt need ai for that
>>77328599>any actual schooling biology.
>>77328599my dad is super low test but has literally 0 stress and is the most chill guy idk man
>>77328712You can read cool
>>77328716Can you explain what you think the point of quoting that is>hard mode, respond with a coherent actual answer instead of rage or a witty one-up
>>77326928You just gotta take the Lyle McDonald pill then uninstall instagram. The sooner the better
Its because stereotype of the dumb gym bro is real except this is 4chan so its all gymbros who barely lift and look like shit
>>77328768Cope lol most of us are high iq
vanity is a sin
>>77328467Basically just pick up heavy objects and put them back down again and do it however you like as long as you do it to failure.
Just read this article and never again read anything else fitness related.https://leangains.com/fuckarounditis/
>>77329581So is pride
>>77329610>Just take advice from the guy who tells you to take extremely strong stimulants well known for causing adverse effects like elevated blood pressure and anxiety and binge eat to lose weight.Thanks, I'm gonna go ahead and not do that.
It's an art. Sciencefags should get stomped to death.
>>77330561>scaremongering caffeine
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>>77330732You should learn about what you're promoting before you promote it so that when you defend it incorrectly and make witty remarks in defense of it, you don't look silly for being wrong.
>>77330760>>77330811calm down schizo
>>77330823Sorry you were wrong and got upset about it.
>>77330823Wiped his ass
Oof
>>77328712any actual schooling in biology.There, fixed it for you.
>>77330823Utterly based
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>>77326928If your shit sucks then what are you doing? >push+pull same day pick one and do this 2-3x/wk>everything else 1-3x, I'd do >arms2-3x>front/rear/mid delts 1x extra each and forearms 1x>legs and core 1-2x for 3-5 working sets though but these are the first I neglect>cardio is gay I'll do it once then not again for weeks to months because there's no real benefits unless you like looking like a queer
>>77330858Thanks, I'm still going to disregard what you said though
>>77326928because genetics are the single most important variable so people do wildly different shit and it still works (or doesn't work if your genetics are Indian like)
>>77331011It’s crazy how this is still w controversial statement in 26
>>77331020What
