>truth
>polling women
Pick one.

>>77328150
Caring what women want is the greatest obstacle to getting women.

>>77328150
Who cares what women like, I don't lift for women.

Theyve literally done studies on body mass in males and short term sexual success - outcome: bigger mass and golden triangle ratios had more success. You can't just ask women, because they lie

yup, roiding and getting freakishly big is the same thing as being a tranny basically
stems from mental problems of getting bullied in school or at home

>>77328152
So alain delon and brad pitt being 11/10 is false too?

>>77328173
And how do they do the studies then?

>>77328150
>caring what women say
>believing what women say
>believing women act as they answer polls
SHIGGY

>>77328150
Skinny only works if the guy is tall or a pretty boy. One of the main insecurities for women is when they are perceived or perceive themselves as "bigger" than their man. Size in general translates to "strong" and capable of protection, so while being lean can be attractive in itself, being big (enough) is more important.

lets cut the crap. anyone who has ever lifted knows that once your chest and arms start popping, you start getting mires from...other men. you might think women are miring you more too, but its more like to be just something in your head than reality. lifting is for the male gaze.

>>77328192
I believe they measure number of partners etc
Anyways the "study" in the OP is obviously shit because they are changing multiple variables, showing different guys with different bodies etc
I think anyone who has lifted for a while and been at different sizes will have a pretty good sense of which sizes women respond to best, and my impression is that more muscle is better than less

>>77328150
I don’t understand why /fit/ thinks that a woman would want a super lean shredded man when /fit/ doesn’t want a super lean shredded woman either.

>>77328653
I never lose my abs on a bulk, but whenever I'm my biggest I get the most compliments. Especially on my arms, even though they lose definition.

>>77328150
no studies are necessary
gorillions of young women across the globe drool over kpop stars that are simply lean/slim
face > height > frame

I can't think of a more useless, more easily manipulated metric than polls with pics. Take the bottom right one, the two pictures have differen lighting, posture and camera-subject distance, and most people are too retarded to take this into account meaning that the poll is totally worthless. You can almost always get the result you want just by cherry-picking the pictures that you are gonna present.
That said it's true that most women prefer aesthetic muscular bodies that aren't overly fat/huge/shredded, but that's obvious to anybody with a brain

>>77328653
>I believe they measure number of partners
I dont know why you felt the need to add "etc". They still do polls nonetheless and questionnaires nonetheless
All that matter anyways is height and face everything is superflux and cope