When will bodybuilding return to a health focus?
>>77335664bodybuilding is about getting huge, if you wanna be healthy go to some gay health club or something
>>77335671Fit is healthy. No bodybuilder is fit
>>77335679What is your point?
>>77335679I have a BMI of 28 lean and do more senolytics than Bryan Johnson, including quercetin because I know epigenetic clocks are largely junk science and senolytics speeding them up isn't really a problem.>t. S++ tier biosharter
>>77335664We need to make the roidtranny meme mainstream so that bodybuilding goes back to being the gay fringe subculture it always was and we can reclaim aesthetics for naturals.
>>77335679You're not "fit" either. You're an ugly misshapen dyel who watches gook cartoons all day so who cares?
>>77335664If I pull off that mask will he die?
>>77335695A handful of dyels have spend all day here for literal years trying to force the "roidtranny meme" yet nobody in the world outside this shitty board uses the term or even cares.
>>77335702why do dyel 4chan incels all have these power fantasies where they go up to a "roidtranny" and take his stuff or something and he just sits there passively without smashing your face in?
>>77335707You're a big guy...
>>77335707desu the roider probably won't do shit for fear of a.) their heart exploding and b.) moving too much too fast and pulling something kek
>>77335707For you
>>77335707at least you can talkwho are you?
>>77335664Bodybuilding wasn't ever about health. Bodybuilding is about getting a guy who has big pecs and a big biceps on the cover of a magazine to sell magazines, supplements, and whatever else Joe Weider was selling. Well that's what the IFBB is all about. Arnold never used the proton powder Joe was selling yet he showed up in the ad as to imply to the reader that this is how he built his biceps. Weider also used his magazines to slander his rivals. For instance he slandered Arthur Jones and his machines, because Weider was selling barbells for home gym use while Jones was just selling machines to gyms people already had memberships in. Weider was selling supplements while Jones placed the nutritional burden entirely in food. Weider made up articles where Arnold got injured on the pull over machine. It's certainly the case that perhaps in 1940-1955 there were still people going off of Hackenschmidt's health books. But certainly by 1958 that went out the window entirely. Not a single body builder in any magazine after 1958 who wasn't on Dianabol. Between the late 19th century and 1930's that there was still the emphasis on the ability to perform in military service. Early physical culture came from the European gymnastics culture in the late 19th century intended to produce strong soldiers who could march and fight. But that changed some time in the mid-1930's as it became more about the individualistic side of things>Powerlifting>WeightliftingNot about health either. About putting as much weight as possible on a barbell and lifting it with one of the relevant motions. >SportsAlso not about health at the highest level. It's about winning. If health is the goal, not destroying your elbow pitching, not placing excessive strain on your shoulder joint or spine as is often the case in power lifting, and certainly not dieting down to 4% bodyfat to see those glute fibers. You really don't need anything near maximum muscle growth for health.
>>77335664Bodybuilding has always been about maximizing your size and overall "aesthetic".That's all it is. A male beauty pageant.Health has always been secondary, something to concern yourself with in the background while striving for the primary objective.In fact, considering your health as the primary objective is rather feminine I'd argue. Women care about their health and longevity, which is why they never build anything or take risks. Men care about health only in so far that it doesn't interfere with their objective, or, if it will help them with achieving their objective.
>>77335664You clearly dont understand what their goal is (bodyBUILDING). Its not to be 'healthy', its to be a fucking FREAK. The bigger the better, THAT is the goal. And fucj it, if I could do like Jay or Ronnie, I would. They are set and their children are set. Thats the goal too in life. I'll sacrifice myself for my kids, NO DOUBT.
>>77335664Never because of consumer demands for ripped physiques with substantial mass. You guys built your own hell with your engagement.
>>77335715We've gotten so many newfags here that a common meme from 2012 is like speaking ancient sects despite 2012 being near the death of /b/
>>77335706you literally inject chemicals to satiate your body dysphoriayou are neither man nor woman
>>77335841why are you telling me this? i dont even lift lol
>>77335707Because it would be funny to bully steroids users?
>>77335664When social media dies off, freaks get clicks and I’m positive in the dark corners of someone’s mind watching people roof up and die early is some type of fetish
>>77335902Roid up*
>>77335696Stop projecting. Makes you look parhetic
>>77335694To much antioxydants is bad for your health. Thus why everyone switched to nac. I doubt somone that retarded can be fit.
>>77335714You do know that being a victim weight twink doesnt make you superior right? You can talk shit about gear all you want but youre still small.
>>77335696Why are you saying something that has nothing to do with what he said?>>77335736This is sadly the post that explains everything you need to know about bodybuilding and fitness. They really aren't the same thing, they just have some cross over stuff (like training and exercise and diet) but the end result is very very different. One kills you faster and the other one makes you live longer than average and improve quality of life.
The two are fundamentally incompatible. A muscular body is not the result of a healthy lifestyle, at best it's "better than being fat". Especially when steroids are involved you're worse off than before. Training for health and longevity means lots of cardio, light lifting and you should probably look at triathletes and long-distance swimmers for a goal physique
>>77336789You're talking about weight and size in a thread about health and longevity, while the established patterns are that people with moderate weight and size are the healthiest
Does gear age you?
>>7733682622 year old.
>>77335707Someone get this hothead outta here
>>77336809racket sport players have the longest increase in life expectancy with +9.7 from avg. funny enough, cyclists are only +2 so extreme cardio isn't actually good for health. some cardio and coordination is the best for health
Roids/PEDs are for losers, this is been long established and widely agreed upon. Only normies and DYELs find this statement infuriating.
>>77335778self contradictory midwit take. Man is free to pick up general health as his main objective. Take your irrelevant nu-opinions somewhere else
>>77335687point is, that if you roid, you are a male to male tranny>>>/lgbt/
>>77335664Never, least not for anything besides physique categories.
I just want to look athletic
>>77336998Where are you getting these numbers?
>>77337102it came to me in a dream
>>77335664
>>77335707Because they're too weak to fight back.
>>77335664I'm a 45y old male who's been using TRT for most of my adult years. I thought I'd share my personal story in case it might help someone else suffering from low testosterone or related conditions. To begin, my body has never naturally produced normal levels of testosterone. In addition, I'm sterile with an analysis of my sperm stating all as either deformed or immobile. Overall, I have no regrets with my journey using TRT, but there have been unexpected consequences. The first consequence is a case of acne on my back which started almost immediately and persists to this day. Second, is a slight case of gynecomastia due to the higher levels of estrogen produced when TRT is used. Over the years, I've been self conscience with a "heavy chest," but building chest muscles through weight training greatly helped to disquise my problem. Third, and most problematic for me, has been the shrinking of my testicles. While I'm not bothered by the smaller size, the condition has allowed one of my testicles to get stuck in the inguinal canal as it tried to retract. Unlike cases where a normal sized testicle rises near the canal but later relaxes and lowers, my testicle was small enough to become stuck, causing a nauseous pain and not allowing me a chance of forcing it lower. I experienced this pain for more than 5 years until my testicle made its way past the restricted portion of the canal, never to be felt or seen again. While I'm no longer in pain from my lost testicle, my "ball sack" is now a flat bag of wrinkled skin holding what remains of my one remaining testicle. I'm open to any questions.
>>77335695>reclaim aesthetics for naturalslmao
>>77335671bodybuilders pose around shirtless in thongs for a 99% male audiance in competitions and you call "health clubs" gay. why are you faggots like this?
>>77336893>gained 20 yearsroidtrannies are mentally ill
>>77337100That’s a roidtranny
>>77335664This roidtroon is 21? He looks like 63 already.
>>77338235Why not fully troon out? You already have the tits and half-way through an orchidectomy.
>>77338235Why didn't you just do HCG
>>77335671>Gay health clubWhat exactly do you think gyms are???
>>77335709>>77335715I enjoyed this
>>77335706>"roidtranny meme" yet nobody in the world outside this shitty board uses the term wow really, i would have expected the term "roidtranny" to have caught on like wildfire in pop culture
>>77335664>>77335695>>77338723Are there any bodybuilding associations that focus on actual balanced statue-like aesthetics and not just looking like a rotisserie chicken about to explode? I want some chud anon to start a bodybuilders association that prides itself on being 100% natty and ostracizing guys who get too bloated and large or are covered in acne and veins. Cat/Dogshow judges have it figured out. You don't just reward the fluffiest cat. You judge them on how balanced and well-maintained they are.My ideal bodybuilding club>Maximizing balanced looks>no bronzing allowed, only clear oil>culture of being natural, anti druggy and pro-natural propaganda posters up.>Simple yet varied obstacle coarse included in competition alongside posing, like have the guy do some running jumps, chinups, A simple crawl or barbell lift. Posing can be either before or after the demonstration of fitness. Probably after because it helps with pump. >communal kitchen/pantry, processed shit is thrown out by the others. >outside section included, working out outside is encouraged, not only to get sun, but also to advertise the club to randos passing by.
>>77339743Why do you need an association? Just do whatever you like with your body
>>77339746Having people together not only allows people to help you and in turn you help them with their goals. Not to mention friendly competition fosters growth. Compared to so many other hobbies Bodybuilding has the unique position to be both a sport, an art, a social club, and an aspect of your lifestyle all at the same time. Apes together strong.
>>77335664Never was health focused because there isn't anything healthy about starving yourself for glute striations.
>>77337003>Roids/PEDs are for losers, this is been long established and widely agreed upon. Only normies and DYELs find this statement infuriating.I got a newsflash 4 ya bud: even caffeine and baking soda are PEDs, you can read the clinical trials. Lots of "gear" is fairly dangerous especially if you do a really lot for a long time, but there are tons of the other "PEDs" most of this board would consider natty that are pretty safe and used by loads of drug-tested pro athletes because not really B& substances.
>>77335706you might be one of the biggest retards to ever post here kek
>>77339882he's just coping about his roid use. Only the trashiest and stupidest people you have ever met unironically defend roid use. Even famous bodybuilders and athletes who have been *on* roids at some point warn people about gear use.
>>77335707the fire rises
>>77335664How much you think he weighs?
