>Where do I start?old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/indexPrev: >>77321239
>>77335887>redditor>on roidsPeak cancer
>take roids for a few years>eventually have to get off them for health issues>gains vanish overnight but baldness and permanent side effects remainmany such cases AND that is a BEST case scenario if you have access to Hollywood-tier doctors, trainers, and treatment to soften the landing.there's a reason fitness influencers don't post 10+ years updates.
Is it worth taking 3.5iu hgh every day for a year or should I save the $750~ for something else
>>77335919It’s genetics. I know guys start shedding the moment they add a dht and other guys that cruise on mast and their hairline doesnt budge.
>>77335919I look like the Rock without roids and I am white.
Reta is insane. I'm literally losing a pound every other day on 2 mg. I can't believe I suffered cutting for years and now it's just solved.
>>77335887Sam is good
Just started my TEST EQ bulk cycle w 400mg each let’s see what 4 months can make me look like Mike Tyson
What tirz dose you fraudsters on?
>>77336078Too much too fast. You're gonna have ozempic face if you keep losing that much
>>77336128I am cutting back on carbs cus I am gaining weight too fast I am losing definition and starting to morph to chub, bulking sucks but being lean sub200 sucks I need to find a good medium where I can stay defined while also gaining mass.
Is Panda Express dirty bulking? Smoking weed
>>77336181Yes that is a ton of sugar and oil
>>77336181Maybe it's different when you’re on a shitton of roids, but as a rule of thumb never bulk on low-protein meals. Even a Big Mac with 1 extra meat will do it because it still has 39g protein/650 kcal depite being slop.
Why is my ab wall so fucking tight? Are the roids making me intestinemaxx?
My libido has gone down since I started Npp a week ago but I am glad since I am a coomer who watches too much porn. Literally haven't fapped in a week which is good since don't have a strong desire to. My dick is perfectly fine just not coomer tier is all.
>>77336078It is a game changer for sure. I've found the right dose for me is between 3.5mg to 5mg if I want to turn off hunger more aggresively. You need to make sure you're not losing more than 1% body weight per week, 3.5lbs/week is too aggressive unless you're ultra obese.>>77336147It also just happens if you're obese and lose a ton of weight. People are finding out that your skin doesn't instantly constrict back to what it should be when you lose weight fast. Also that they will be stuck with loose skin everywhere no matter what.>>77336212I mean yeah it boosts MPS but you still are limited to a certain amount of calories. It's totally fine once or twice a week for most people unless they're trying to be elite.>>77336375Nothing in a week? That sounds brutal. At least it cured your porn addiction but have you considered making your vice exclusively PEDs? Much healthier than many other vices out there.
>>77335919>a few yearsA few decades*
>>77336078>>77336146No fatties allowed.
>>77336146>>773364263.5mg lets me diet and feel some hunger 5mg no hunger and I have to remember to eat and track calories take the lowest dose possible
would a TRT dose + 20mg anavar work alright for someone whose goal is just to look good at the beach? Would it be good to throw GH in or could the water retention ruin the look?
>>77336375is the lack of estradiol physically dangerous at all?>>773361466.5mg
>>77336502mentally yes, physically idk
>>77336502WIKI
>>77336078Surely this will be consequence freeEveryone now can get ripped, just like that, without any risks, right???There will totally and absolutely not be any long-term complications from using this stuff, right???NO way!!! everyone can have their lunch and EAT it too!
>slight cut , 500cals>added 30mg var in my cycle>gained 3kg in a week but no high e2 signs or watery/dbol type bloatgonna assume its just glycogen in the muscles? stuff is legit.
>>77336717I aint readin that shit
>>77336727>>77336439>>77336426>>77336147I'm not fat though and this is normally how fast I cut with a PSMF. I only have about 8 lbs to go. It's just cutting below 10% is fucking torture without reta.
>>77336502>is the lack of estradiol physically dangerousMine was zero before I started frauding. Wasn't a problem for me. If I crash it I just get anhedonia. It's definitely not good, but not dangerous.
>>77336730Anavar is fucking tits honestly
>>77336499>just to look good at the beachYou don't need var imo plus that dose is pathetic. You probably wouldn't even feel it, you'd just get slightly better pumps. Just up the test a bit. If you really want to look good you can micro dose tren at like 100mg. 50mg might even be enough for what you want
>>77336499Just go TRT. GH is for higher experienced lifters who plateaued on test or for other niche health reasons. If youre just starting out GH with TRT is going to give you a ton of sides.
>>77336748 >0 Estradiol is not dangerousPlease kys and never post again you imbecile
>>77336765HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Would anyone buy my 17-alpha-estradiol hair cream I made.The existing hair creams have 25mg of it per 100mL, but thats a bit too weak.Mine has 200mg/ 100mL and strong enough for primo/mast hair loss prevention. It would probably be price similar to the Ell-Cranell shit ~$40 for a bottle that would last 100 daysJust seeing if there any interesthttps://strawpoll.com/kogjRXzP2g6
>>77336818no
Does injected glutathione also help the liver when taking orals? Would it be better than NAC?
Injected quad for the first time and now even walking hurts, I limp when I go up/down the stairs.Is this just virgin muscle PIP?I really want a new site besides shoulders and quads are so easy.I will fucking inject them till they get used to the needles
>>77337131why not glutes?
>>77335887>using socrates quotes for a completely roided guyI don't think he meant this, anon.
>>77337143Socrates was actually referring to Rich Piana
>>77336727Opioids are also a miracle drug with literally no downside if you aren't retarded and don't abuse them. Some drugs just work and I've read a significant amount of actual literal research (not YouTube videos) and I really can't find a major downside to tirz specifically other than it might make your tummy hurt.
>>77337135too much fat, I would need to use painful harpoons to reach the musclealso awkward to pin alone
>>77336078>Reta>>77336727>everyone can have their lunch and EAT it too!Lol implying people eat lunch on that shit...>https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/retatrutide-results-spark-questions-about-how-rapid-weight-loss-affects-the-body/>Reports suggest that GLP-1 treatments may cause between 25 to 40 percent loss of lean mass, which includes muscle mass—although more studies are needed to understand how this affects strength.FWIW I think cutting with big stacks of CRMs and insulin sensitizers is way better.
>>77337265Post body
>>77337242You dont have a girlfriend?Also subQ works fine for low doses.
>>77335919Eh I mean these guys were jacked as fuck for like 30 years if u didn't eat enough ass at that time it's on u nigga
>>77337265I've been on for like 2 weeks and I'm stronger than I was. But I'm also running tren so idk
>>77335919Completely invalidates your claims& he just keeps getting bigger & better
>>77336744It's always funny how people fearmonger about Reta but if you were to post that you're on test and gained 20 lbs everyone would be saying congrats. People just have an aversion to you looking good.
>>77337265Yes, if you don't get enough protein you will lose muscle mass. I don't understand why that's surprising to you. I think most of the retarded normies taking this stuff either don't know how to lift/eat or think reta is just a magic get out of jail free card and they don't have to do anything to maintain their bodies
>>77337304I will put myself out there only after I hit 200kg bench and 300kg squat/deadlift.I'm preparing my muscles for the upcoming winter bulk/blast early so I need some new IM spots for higher volume
>>7733726542 years old. Been on a reta (4mg/week) and hgh (2iu daily) stack for about 6 weeks. I have been TRT for 8 years (120 mg/week).Dropped 16 lbs so far, and according to an impedance scale (I know it isn't that accurate). Have lost 17 lbs fat gained 1 lbs lean. Keeping my regular routine going and not losing strength and endurance I typically do during a natural cut. The Reta doesn't fully kill my appetite like I've heard Terz does but definitely makes it easier to function in a significant calorie deficit that I've never been able to sustain naturally for more than 4 weeks. Really kills my cravings at night especially sugar. But I could still easily over eat if I wanted to. Added the HGH to keep the lean mass and it 100% improves my sleep and recovery.
>>77337330He's got great genetics to be doing this shit at 55
>>77336727Nigger we're specifically taking reta to not have lunch get this through your thick neanderthal skull>>77336744Ok so if you're 8lbs off from being lean then what the fuck are you doing losing 3.5 lbs a week???>>77337188Genuinely. The worst is acid reflux if you take too much because you're a total fatass who needs a 10mg dose to feel it. I feel like it's just over at that point anyways but whatever.>>77337265Literally just take steroids. You will not lose much muscle unless you're already a gear goblin. Going on a deficit tanks a natty's testosterone output which means muscle loss. Not the drug's fault>>77337328Yeah no this is what you're supposed to do. You boost MPS so as long as you get enough protein you won't lose muscle mass.
CJC and IPAmorelin 2x a day dramatically improves my recovery for gym lifting
>>77337392Tirz or reta? Which would you recommend?
>>77337491How close are you to your goal? If you're far, tirz. Close? Reta. Reason being you won't affect your metabolism as much on reta but you won't get as much appetite suppression. So if you're really fat you probably need the appetite suppression more than the metabolism.
>>77336727>Surely this will be consequence freeIt depends. If you are used to cutting and only use glps for short periods of time to make your cut easier then there is most likely not going to be any real consequences for you except more mires. That's because people who know how to diet somewhat properly when they use reta they still (hopefully) aim for sufficient protein intake and a 2lbs a week loss what they want to remove is the constant food noise and mental load that it takes to cut. However, a lot of people will be stuck on this drug forever even if they hit their goal weight because they are incapable of making decent lifestyle choices that keep their caloric intakes at maintenance. I am selling reta to a friend's mother and she's still eating popcorn chicken poutine for dinner, but she just eats less of it. It's guaranteed that this person will regain all of the weight after. Whatever I make money and I can hope that she'll help herself one day. >>77336078It really is amazing. I would sell my natty card 10 years prior for some grey sema if I knew how good this stuff worked. I stacked 1000mg and I want another 1000mg along with 1k tirz and 500mg sema just in case man. They can and will sell this for so much money >>77336818can you make dht cream I'm trying to grow my penis and I heard that it might help I am really close to 8x6">>77337087I believe so I am also trying to get some for that reason, but i didn't look too much into it>>77337500I agree and I'd also add that reta long term is quite strenuous on your sleep because of the glucagon activation
>>77337500I'm 235 trying to get down to 210. I'm just pushing 40 now and I don't have the time or energy to stay in shape like I used to. I still lift/play hockey/etc but I can feel father time creeping up on me. I can't dunk a basketball anymore and that's been really hard on me mentally lol. Thanks for reading my blog.
>>77337304Girlfriends are literally gains goblins and they are cringe and emotional and just fucking whores in general.
>>77337491Never tried Terz but have zero complaints about reta. No sides other than one time I was constipated 3 days after starting but that only lasted 1 day
>>77337491What I like about Reta is I still want to eat and look forward to eating it just helps my portion control and cravings. Ive heard Tirz makes eating feel like a chore and people skip lots of meals. I'm still making sure I keep my protein levels high because I dont want to lose much lean mass. Agreed with poster above saying lady eating popcorn chicken putine is gonna blow up when she gets off... you still need to have some will power but makes it way easier to fight cravings.I'm currently around 1500 calories with at min 150 g protein but try to hit 200 g daily. I'm not autistic in counting macros.Maintenance i'd typically be in the 2250-2750 range.
>>77337560What are you eating?
>>77337606Regular whole foods for the most part, I'll have a protein shake or some other whey to get my protein levels up. Ill eat carbs and fats normally depending on what my wife makes for dinner. I typically eat lower carbs in general not to a keto level but im not a huge fan of eating bread rice or potatoes when theirs meat around.I HLHave had pizza & beer, fast food burger with no side effects, I've heard people get sick eating that stuff on ozempic or tirz. Don't really crave or impulse eat on reta. For example someone brought box of doughnuts to work and normally I'd grab one or crave it the whole day if on a cut. Now I just brush it of and move on without second thought.
>>77337409>Ok so if you're 8lbs off from being lean then what the fuck are you doing losing 3.5 lbs a week???I always cut this hard. I just want to get to like 7-8% blast again. Doing 1lb/wk is unironically worse to me than starving. Even if you don't have much to lose that's 3 months of counting calories and being a weak ass bitch.
>>77337505>They can and will sell this for so much moneyI honestly don't know why fat people still exist. It's so easy to lose weight now.
>>77336727>weight loss drugs via hormones The exact 1:1 problems of starving the same amount. Normal amounts can be used to speedrun anorexia, with all the medical problems anorexia causes. Which is why you need to exercise, or more ideally microdose it>anti histamines Enough of the pathway is triggering that you could develop further allergies, for long term permanent exposure. The reason its recommended to be permanently on anti histamines when doing OIT/hypo sensibility therapy is that a lot of allergies are cumulative. So the problem is not the flare up, but that the flare up means the next hit is going to land to major rashes, and them major rashes leads to scarring or skin that requires 2-4 days away from the allergen source to calm down.
>>77335887
>>77337662you are poor and muslim and can't afford AC
>>77336758>micro dose trenNTA but I've considered this. I've done test blasts (up to 750mg), dbol, anavar. not really looking to be a sam sulek stage demon.problem is that I've heard that tren is fucking terrible for you in all other aspects. I've done DHB 100mg/week and that was great for putting some on lean mass and vascularity. People say that DHB is like tren's little brother so maybe I'll do it again and up it to 200mg/week.All that aside though, do you have any insights on microdosing tren yourself?
dried fruits?
>>77337690Yeah it fucks with your liver but for me at least it's manageable under 200 mg. I still wouldn't run it more than a few months just because I don't want to be out of range too long. Last time I tested I was a little too high running 150 for a few months.
>>77337626i think the ate a burger had problems thing is about fat content. if you're eating greasy spoon slop, that fat passes right through you. if you're eating lean beef cooked at home, much less fat to deal with
>>77337690I wonder if I should drop my tren from 250mg down to 100mg, I don’t necessarily get any bad sides but is this a situation where less is more?
>>77337720Not an expert but >https://old.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/trenbolone>The compound is neurotoxic, cardiotoxic, hepatotoxic, and nephrotoxic. In the brain, it precipitates amyloid plaque formation, which is a precursor to early-onset dementia and Alzheimer's disease. I'm generally moving towards a less is more mindset with all roiding. The human body, even on cow steroids, can physically only put on so much mass in so little time, it's just a function of thermodynamics and the laws of nature.If you have to choose between 250mg/week tren over the course of 10 weeks, or that equivalent dose in one week (2500mg), you'd of course go with the former. It's the exposure to tren over enough time to actually build mass that counts. In that regard, if you're in a situation where you can lower the dose to where the efficacy remains the same, but you can stay on the substance for longer and with less sides, you should go with that course of action. By that logic, my mindset has shifted to one where I am figuring out the minimum effective anabolic dose of a compound and staying on it as long as safely possible. Recently I had a limited supply of DHB to experiment with, and I opted for 10 weeks of 100mg/week instead of 5 weeks at 200mg, and the gains were steady, lean, and my arms stayed popping throughout the cycle. I'm glad I went with the 10 weeks instead of the 5 weeks of 200mg.
>>77337694basically candy
>>77337743It’s a good thought, I am on wk 10 of 250mg and with summer coming and going I could theoretically drop for 100mg for the rest of my cycle no biggie and keep blasting test along with var. Honestly I see no downsides to either option besides financial aspects which isn’t an issue
Yessssir
>>77336758>>77337720>>77337743So say 350 test + 100 tren is good for beach body gains, but 350 test + 20 var is pathetic?They say var is 3 times more anabolic than test so 20mg (plus test) for a good look shouldn't be that lame, right?
>>77337796var sucks ass. It's 3 times worse for your bloods and does nothing. Like if you're going to fuck your shit up do something that's going to be worth it.
>>77337808>t. 5mg Varbie user
>>77337743150-200 tren just works for me. Gets me into that downbad main character state of mind and makes me look crazy. Any more and I just get tired and eat shitloads of carbs.
>>77337827100-150mg sounds ideal I did like the 150mg cycle I ran didn’t notice the carb thing until recently so lowering it might the call. Worst case I run it back higher next time as an experiment.
Injected in to my thigh a few weeks ago and now there's just a hard solid lump at the injection site. It appeared very quickly after the injection (possibly immediately although it was initially a bit smaller) and has shown no signs of going away. Does anyone know what this is? Never had this before. There were no symptoms of infection although there may have been minor hygiene issues. My appetite markedly decreased in the week or so after I injected which leads me to worry the gear wasn't absorbed properly.Can anyone help?
>>77337980Reta/Tirz or Roids? I think you didn’t go deep enough that only happened to me a few times and after massaging it it dissipates and goes away after a day or two.
>>77337808>does nothing>causes 3x more hypertrophy than testWhich is it?>>77337826>5mgThat would amount to 35mg/week, so roughly equivalent to 100mg test... which is basically TRT and indeed no more than plain natty gains. 20mg amounts to the equivalent of 400mg test though, so it should do "something".
>>77338013the mental gymnastics of goyim are astounding
>>77337505It's great to see other anons that actually understand the drug, reading what people say on youtube and shit is killing me. For reta I've been combining it with tirz, I haven't really noticed a difference in sleep but I'm on a low dose of 2.5mg reta.>>77337508I mean you're close but depending on muscle mass etc I would probably recommend tirz at that point. It will eliminate hunger and cravings, just make sure you're getting enough protein and not losing more than ~2 lbs a week. Start on 1mg if you've never taken a glp drug. Wait 4 weeks, ramp up to 2.5, wait another ideally 4 weeks then raise again depending on hunger levels. If you're like unable to avoid sucking in every ounce of goyslop in sight then go to 5mg but if you're close but not quite try something like 4 or even 3.If you do it a second time you can just skip to the dose if it's 5mg or less they seem to be doing that in trials anyways. It's just that some people get raped on 1mg for some reason so you don't want 5.>>77337560>Ive heard Tirz makes eating feel like a choreNo, if you feel like eating is a chore on any weight loss drug you need to decrease the dosage. It can happen on any of them.>>77337649My bad it's just that most people are taking too much without understanding the consequences. A blast afterward will let you bounce back. And agreed being in a deficit for a longer time sucks ass.
>>77338016>da joosSo var does something after all?
>>77338007Roids. Testosterone. The needles are 5/8 inch and I really doubt thats the problem as I've always used this needle length and never had this before. I've rubbed and massaged it quite a lot and its made no difference.The other thing I will say that might possibly be relevant is that I injected quite a large amount (1.5ml of 400mg test) in to the mid-thigh.
>>77338049To be fair you are injecting it too middle of your thigh it should be more outer quadrant (1:30 if you’re looking at it correct orientation from that pic you took)But uhh do you pinch SubQ or do you jist stab straight down?
>>77338013500 test, 100-200 primo, 50mg var ed for first and last two weeks of the cycle. Cialis for BP and if that doesn’t work, 20-40mg Telmisartan. >optional goodiesIf you want even MORE, 2-4IU HGH if you’re a gear virgin. TB500 if you’re doing 1RM every single workout and you Fugg something up. 200MastE if you want to stay tighterDone. Is it basic? Sure. Depending on how lean you are, you may not even need AI if you’re doing under 500 test. 200test C+200MastE+ winnybif you’re just trying to PoolParty Maxx and don’t care about size (though Winnie may give you glass knees so be careful).>not med advice
Starting a cut on 2.5mg reta. Should I keep doing 500 test or start 300 test + 100mg tren ace? At about a 750 calorie deficit and just trying to drop fast without losing much muscle.
>>77337980Only retards inject thighs. And only mega retards inject 1.5ml into their thigh. Jesus Christ. Just go and see a doctor if it's not going away ffs.
>>77335887>no man has da right to grow old without pinning NEEDLES in his BUTT for big juicy muscles!!!! No man i said!!!
>>77338097I had good results and minimal muscle loss on 250 test 100 tren + reta, but still lost some strength and had to retrain up to my bulk lifting
>>77337980i get these sometimes. i think it's just a reaction to the ba. if the lab id a 2/20 mix, see if you can find a lab that does 1/19 next time. i brew my own, and did a lower ba/bb mix the first time, but was annoyed 'cause it kept crashing. this last time i did higher ba/bb, no crash, but now i get irritation, and this is even at a lower active concentration (280mg/ml tren a first time, 262mg/ml this time)
>>77338211oh also more ba gets the active to liquid at higher concentration, but the ba absorbs faster than the oil, so the active can crystallize in your muscle, which also hurts/causes irritation
>>77338150I thought it was a common site to inject large amounts since it is a big muscle?
>>77338224It is but it also has more nerves/vessels so getting PIP is more common as well as apparently lots of people get the little lump you describe. Glutes probably the most common but I have no idea how people angle themselves to do it so easily…
>>77338065Jab straight down. I am aware that it wasn't the ideal location, what I am really looking to understand is WTF this lump is.
>>77338254chuck a massage gun on it for a few minutes.it'll hurt like hell, but it should help break it up
>>77338254I used to do that with a 1” 25g 1.5ml once a week and it was a pain but never got a lump, I suggest if you continue to do quads switch to subQ daily or EoD and yeah like the other anon said use a massage gun if it lumps up. You shouldnt massage gun IM injections I’ve heard from a few people but never looked up why. Light pressure circular motion until it dissipates smaller and it will be absorbed better. Or just do lats weekly or twice a week alternating.
I wish SARMs weren't hated as much as they are. They aren't completely selective, but to some extent they are. I've never seen LGD-4033 touch my hematocrit for example. I've run it on top of TRT a few times now and I like the strength gains I got from it. I honestly noticed more from it than 20mg anavar. It just sucks that it strains the liver a bit and fucks up cholesterol.
>>77338343Break what up exactly? What is it?
Can someone explain why fast acting roids don't work. Like a nasal spray or whatever that peaks and drops in 1h. Since test attaches to receptors and makes stuff in cell nuclei and its anabolic for days afterwards. I thought it'd be a great thing, spike test during workout couple times a week, it attaches to muscle cell receptors, then clears out and you have 0 sides.
>>77338669TNE has an extremely short half life. Basically what you're talking about.>and you have 0 sideslol no
>>77338675>TNEWell I mean you will have sides but I guess much weaker than if you just go on a regular cycle? Like there's just less test to turn into other hormones in the bloodstream? But then you still can get your balls shut down I guess. I dunno. Yeah I guess its retarded and lh will get suppressed anyway. Gay.
>>77338683I think the bigger issue is that most of the benefit of frauding happens when you're not at the gym. So most guys do TNE to supplement their cycle.
>>77338097300 test or even lower. you'll preserve/gain muscle while cutting on reta. save higher blast test dose for when you've hit goal weight, fattie
>>77338688Do we even have any model of how training/roids build muscle beyond "stuff happens on test-receptor-nucleus-mrna-ribosome path but we don't know any real numbers" or is it all mtor and those tension receptors now
My fraud journey:>train arse off natty for almost 10 years>do two bitch cycles last year (350 test + 40 var)>godlike physique with some annoying sides>now doing tirz trt + low dose hgh long term and 2 weak var cycles (25mg 8 weeks) a year to add l musclevidrel: my gf when I hit 9% bodyfat next year
enjoy your early graves, trannies
>Get into argument with family>They bring up steroids out of nowhere whoa ad hominem much you fat lazy niggers?
I'm on 5ARIs and I wanna start TRT/roidz, I'm wondering whether I'm gonna need aromatase inhibitors cause my E2 is already elevated?>T 503>DHT 58>E2 39
>>77338713What were the shitty side effects of 350 test? What was your injection frequency?
>>77338713How fat are you really if 350 test gives you sides Or is this a GDE thing
>>77338713thinking roiding will get you attention from anyone other than guys.... lol
>>77338862water weight and arm acne. Wasn't horrible but it bothered me>>77338884I was fairly lean when I started, not sure of exact bodyfat %
>>77336727Lyle McDonald's rapid fat loss diet nigga
>>77338758he left humanity behind
>>77337330He's natural, unironically. GOAT natty BB genetics, he's literally 1 in 100 billion.
I havnt touched roids since 2016-2017ish and looking at the price of everything today is insane. Some shit is close to double what it used to be and test is like 85$. I’m a leaf though so maybe it’s different here. Very sad though
>>77339038Test is $40-60 from the highest quality UGLs$15-30 for EO floater trash from china
>>77338758>enjoy your early graves, tranniesNo u for not taking the right kinda trooning steroids.>t. hormonally identifies as bug/crustacean
>>77339046You must be talking USD not Canadian monopoly money
What compounds besides testosterone can I run for a long blast (5-6 months)? I'm planning my next winter bulk/blast.I wanted to try tren since I never have used it before but I guess that shouldn't be used for that long without a break and isn't ideal for bulking?I guess I can just do test and deca again like last year but I wanted to try something new for fun.
>>77337755Post body tranny
>>7733924430wk of 200mg Tren during blast was good to me, but everyones body is different
>>77339244primo, deca, GHMaybe low dose tren? I haven't tried tren so I can't really say
>>77339290mast instead of primo? cant find primo anywhere
>>77339116Ah yea, because you are on farma grade compounds being administered by the (((doctor))) while keeping your diet 100% in check all the time.
>>77339306That's interesting, I can't find mast anywhere, but I come across primo sources all the time. I dont know much about mast.
>>77339313you guise should trade LMAO
>enlightened Euro-khanate doesn't use BAC, we use sterilized water for injections, since we don't reuse the same vial for multiple injections>can't find small vials of sterilized water anywhere>I could get them from China for 1 euro each, along with other stuff, but I don't trust their sterility standards>but I can buy entire liter bottles of sterilized water meant for injection, for 2 euros per liter>but to be safe I'd have to use 3ml from a bottle, then dump the remaining 997ml since it would no longer be sterilethis sounds utterly retarded but it's genuinely the cheapest solution I have found
>>77339569>I don't trust their sterility standardsya I've also been thinking of pulling the trigger on chinese BAC water.it's probably fine right anons?I mean I trust them enough to inject their literal bathtub hormones into my body so
>>77339726Problem is that it's water, even the slightest fuck up will make it grow bacteria during shipment. Hormones and peptides don't go off, as long as the reagents are clean and without toxins and contaminants, you have little to fear.I'm thinking about ordering their BAC water and just to be sure, chugging the vials in a pot of boiling water for a minute, to be totally sterilised.
>>77338837kek time to switch up on them anon you dont need them anymore>>77339726You can get the water tested too FWIW but there are still places selling hospira
>>77339789Hospira is American only it seems
>>77335919Bu but he was just eating chicken and rice:P
>>77335919Didn't they intentionally lose weight to guzzle more cum to please their jew overlords aka get more serious roles?Anyone that's roided or done the most minimal amount of reading knows there's enhanced amounts of glucose and water getting pushed into muscles and retained in general for a variety of reasons while on copious amou ts of gear because as soon as you stop blasting you piss out most of itIt's truly the utter uninitiated that thinks that every gain is lost for 20 years of lifting simply by going back natty or nearly soYour post is ill informed and possibly disingenuous, anon3/10 bait, got me to respond but I ain't mad in the slightest, you should hold yourself to a higher standard of both bait and knowledge
>>77339308There isn't "farma" [sic] ecdy (((prescribed))) by (((doctors))) out there outside clinical trials yet because it's an unapproved investigational research chemical, but I get 98% GCMS'd supplements and have total dietary polyphenols way higher than Bryan Johnson. So I got that goin for me at least, which is nice.
>>77339794Ah yeah if you're in Europe I have no clue then. There is a shortage here due to the peptide craze. But for the name brand stuff if you can get it you're good so I'd look for whatever brands you can get in the EU. For instance BPI is a major producer of compounded tirzepatide.
>>77339726you can just.... but ba, and make your own bac water. it's not controlled
