>gangster, thug, brute, henchmen workout scene: weight training>assassin, champion, evil mastermind workout scene: calisthenicwhy is this always the case? is calisthenic the thinking man's workout?
>>77337121What about Francis benchin lmao1pl8?
>>77337121It's dyel cope that "intelligent" and "muscular" are mutually exclusive. They're not. Ancient greeks believed that fit bodies and fit minds complemented eachother. A fit body produced a sharper mind and a sharp mind had the willpower to hone a fitter body. Very often the case is however that people will engage in sour grapes when confronted with an area where they are quantifiably deficient. If they are objectively physically weak they will claim that they are intelligent and that matters more. When you compare IQ tests and they are lower, they will cope once again that "book smarts aren't everything". They will always have some nebulous quality which makes them "better" even if it can never be justified in any measurable way.
>>77337121never as an SS+GOMAD golem to do a muscle up without killing himself
>>77337121Nobody likes gymcels
>>77337121because hollywood writers have no fuckin clue how the real world works.
>>77337190As Thucydides told us>The Nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools.
>>77337121Weightlifting le bad low brow hillbilly activityAlso to appease twink fantasies, evil twink is a very common trope and they cant have them weightlifting because it breaks the immersion to irl twinks who cant bench 2pl8
>>77337278>foolish muscle nigger>little does he know I put all of my points into my intellect
>>77337121>why is this always the case? is calisthenic the thinking man's workout?No, it's just that Americans (who make these movies and media) have deeply ingrained social taboos about who is allowed to workout what way. Martial arts is usually not allowed for whites, for example, unless it's some military hand to hand stuff. Weight liftign is no allowed for the upper class. Etc. It's super weird to an Euro like me, since in Europe, old age is when people, especially the rich, finalyl have time to exercise as much as they want and the yindeed do. It's not that unusual to find seniors doing Judo with the younger people here, for example.
>is calisthenic the thinking man's workout?Pure calisthenics guys are turbofaggots though. Instead of doing weighted pull-ups and maximizing their relative strength the reasonable way, they start doing pole dancing moves on the pull-up bar like that stupid fucking air walk thing they do. Weighted calisthenics is the supreme option because it fixes the only downside calisthenics has and it can be done with very minimal/improvised equipment.
>>77337404this dude lookin like a god damn frog lmao
>>77337426Don't shit on the frogsique. Haven't you ever seen Kung Fu Hustle?
>>77337465i aint shittin on it, im just saying if you color that guy green people would think he a frog. well maybe i am shittin on a little lmao
>>77337404I've been having to do calisthenics for convenience (I do have some weight) for the past 1.5 years and the community is mostly retarded. They have absolutely no ability to comprehend that some of the "standards" they look towards are only possible because they're 120lbs 5'4". This in turn keeps them extremely weak because simply pursuing more reps all the time only builds muscular endurance, not strength. You can progress in strength by either elevating entirely off the floor (front lever row) or progressing towards one arm variants, but they constantly try to get people to stop doing that by being form nazis that don't understand breaking new ground involves shaky reps. Some of these guys also pay for a gym membership just to go and not use weights, out of some blind loyalty to bodyweight training.They also do everything they can to pretend to not be a midget. They'll never disclose their height/weight when saying "iron crosses take about 3 months of training" (pic related). I saw another guy doing L-sit pull-ups on dip bar stands with full shoulder extension and you have to be absolutely tiny for your ass to not hit the ground doing that.And there are no good lower body strength exercises with calisthenics. Once you hit the low bar of one leg squats it's just sprints and jumps for you, which don't improve strength much. Bodyweight training just offers a bunch of challenges that demand clever thinking (or just add weight) to overcome, but most people don't want to do that.
>>77337121Dex goes well with int while str is typically more associated with wis, newfag.
>>77337121>mad dogging you doing air squats
For a normie it's cooler to have your solo hero doing memeshit lsit backflips, whereas the guys who do weight training are doing it with the bros, they're part of a gang.Also muscle assasin twink needs to stay undercover and it would blow his cover if he's actually a 300 pound bodybuilder assasin who could be identified by just his frame alone.
>>77337190>>77337271Mens sana in corpore sano
>>77337190People capable of impressive calisthenics are considered muscular. Stop projecting your media-induced body dysmorphia onto others. Modern day gym is infested by roiders, roids have nothing to do with willpower.
>>77337573We are clearly comparing "big muscled weightlifter = stupid" versus "slim and agile acrobat = smart" tropes here.
>>77337190theyre mutually exclusive in todays modern age where you have an actual job
>>77337573>People capable of impressive calisthenics are considered muscular.I was doing a lot of "impressive" calisthenics when I was doing gymnastics at 118lb bw. Nothing about it was impressive when I couldnt carry a keg into a house for a party while every fat fuck and other dyels could
>>77337504It's not exactly learned helplessness but maybe learned uselessness when they actively avoid using very useful tools available to them. And I get that an exercise you like is better than an exercise you skip 30% of the time but these people would like weighted calisthenics if they tried it. Weighted pull-ups are also very effective for impressing normgroids and many of these 5'4 calisthenics purists could use the self-esteem boost from that.
>>77337607I have a $100,000 year engineering job and work out 8 hours a week.
>>77337647nice and hows your wife and kids feel about that
>>77337426>>77337465>2026>not teenagemutantninjaturtlesmaxxing your latsngmi
>>77337647Also I have a wife and kids before the next cope comes along
>>77337648You only beat me here >>77337651 because of the mandatory post delay.Answer: they feel fine about it. Tuesdays, thursdays and sundays I work out. Mondays, wednesdays and fridays my wife does her things.
>>77337581learning acrobatics requires more focus and is generally more complex skill to master. Olympic weightlifting is much less cognitively sophisticated than Olympic gymnastics. Your average normie dyel will probably have much easier time learning the clean and jerk than some gymnastics tumbling pass.
>>77337271Too bad none of you meat heads are warriors
>>77337663They're different skills entirely. How well would the average gymnast do at the clean and jerk? A weightlifter could train gymnastics instead of weightlifting and he'd be a gymnast instead. It doesn't require high IQ, I take my daughter to gymnastics and there are 8 year old girls doing backflips.Normies would rather flatter themselves and associate themselves with the gymnast than the muscleman, even if they are completely sedentary, because the gymnast looks more like them.
>>77337657KEK alright I concede
>>77337663>Olympic weightlifting is much less cognitively sophisticated than Olympic gymnastics.>implying oly lifters don't fine tune every inch of their techniqueHave you never practiced more than one sport to realize each one has their own skillsets to practice? Whats next? Telling us swimming is more difficult that marathons because you have to hold your breath?
>>77337121Because boomer hollywood writers are DYELs who don't know shit about fitness
I honestly think it has to do with the idea that they want the intelligent villain to be physically dangerous without looking dangerous. If he were a big muscled guy he would have a lot of presence. The show writers probably want him to be the sort of guy who could show up at a casino in an expensive suit and sit at a table without everyone going "whoah you're huge" and looking out of place or detracting from the plot. But if he got into a fight with the hero he could still pull all sorts of cool choreographed moves.
>>77337676>They're different skills entirely.Yes, I've described how they differ.>How well would the average gymnast do at the clean and jerkbad>A weightlifter could train gymnastics instead of weightlifting and he'd be a gymnast insteadno, not really>high IQiq doesn't measure kinesthetic>I take my daughter to gymnastics and there are 8 year old girls doing backflipsshe probably can lift a bar above her head too>Normies would rather flatter themselves and associate themselves with the gymnast than the muscleman, even if they are completely sedentary, because the gymnast looks more like them.non-fat normies will associate themselves with the gymnast, fat ones with a strongman.
>>77337673I’m possibly the lowest paid praetorian in the history of humanity I seriously regret not going to college and getting a white collar job because I thought “marines are badass and guns are cool”
>>77337735>non-fat normies will associate themselves with the gymnast, fat ones with a strongman.neither of these statements are true as far as sports goes. non fats will associate themselves to their favorite sport which is never gymnastics and most likely not strongman. it will be more like football, basketball, or some combat sport. more than likely a marvel superhero instead of sports if we want to also include fantasy
>>77337766discussion is about gymnast/calisthenics vs strongman/weightlifting dichotomy
>>77337779well in that case neither are going to be true in any case when we talkin about normies.
>>77337735Let's just agree that normies are bad and fitness is good.
>>77337562The deadliest assassin in the world (John "Shrek" McPhee) is 6' 220lbs.
>>77337271>t. blue collar loser
>>77337121i love the mental gymnastics of dyels>i only do calisthenics and kettlebells im the big smort
>>77337315Europoor, sit downAmerican world. American website.
>>77337121In Batman v Suparmong he's a brute snd an assassin so he does weighted pull ups
>>77338008Japanese website.
>>77337504When I was mainly doing weighted calisthenics it felt like I wasn't able to keep adding weight as often as I should when compared to conventional lifting and I still can't figure out why.
>>77338025>he typed in English
>>77337121>gangster, thug, brute, henchmenExist irl and do weight training>assassin, champion, evil mastermindDon't exist irl
>>77337121The people that make movies don't want the average moviegoer to understand how to actually better themselves.
>>77337271the punishment for being a faggot in ancient Greece was getting a huge radish shoved up your ass until you started to bleed and die.
>>77337121Weight training alone will produce a good slave that can push stones well.Calisthenics alone will produce a a guy who could be a warrior if he just knew how to fucking fight.Train cali + artial marts. Add some weight training too but don't make it the staple of your working out
>>77338000>soldier in the middle eastquite a bit different from a movie assassin
>>77338119nta but european language
>>77337121it's the >le functional strength cope mostly
calisthenics is p gay if im being honest with you
>>77337190I used to think like this when I was a retarded nerd kid in highschool.>well those fucking bullies are gonna see one day! Im gonna max int and be superior than them, heh!Yeah, I was a dumbass. In fact, inteligence is highly boosted by having a healthy fit body.Even if you wanna be a smartypants you NEED to exercise.
