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What are your thoughts on doing quads on a push day and hams on a pull day instead of having a designated leg day?
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>>77338605
It's fine if you want to do it that way. It doesn't matter as long as you get your total work sets per week done.
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>>77338605
It doesn't work that way, Lombard's paradox.
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You can isolate quads/hams on any non-leg day. Just do leg extensions or curls
That's what I do because my legs are lagging compared to upper body
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>>77338605
its the way
now just do everything as a ppl circuit in one day and bias different muscle groups on different days
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>>77338605
I used to do that but the fatigue from lifting quads fucked with the rest of my workout. Plus lower body compounds hit push and pull muscles so splitting them up will either limit your exercise selection or result in too much leg stimulation.
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>>77338705
>>77338707
>>77338755
So it is not a good idea, unless you only do isolation leg exercises and no big compounds like squat or deadlift.
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>>77338605
It's good. Push-pull split is highly underrated.
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>>77338794
Precisely. Lombard's Paradox shows that both get worked in and compound (squat or hinge) but single joint isolation is okay
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>>77338794
>>77338806
You're not gonna get much hammy development from doing squats alone.
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>>77338605
my right shoulder / rotator cuff has been injured for over a year now and it's really depressing. My left arm is huge in comparison now. it sucks. how effective would surgery even be with something as delicate as your shoulder? I feel like I'm just fucked
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>>77338849
low bar squats
there
hammie maxxed and quad minimized
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>>77338605
That's just push/pull as designed. You're supposed to put squats on push and floor pulls on pull.

The problem is that most people jump into the split routine (when not just copying bodybuilders) because the squats/diddlies wreck you for your entire workout. Upper/lower handles this by giving you a relatively easier upper body workout between the heavier, lower body workouts. It was basically the first popular form of a split routine for a reason. Push/Pull has the problems of a full body workout without the focus of other body part splits.
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>>77338794
>no big compounds like squat or deadlift.
Why would you do those?
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>>77340006
you need at least 1 compound per body part bro.
Im not a fan of squats and deadlifts but at least leg press or hack/belt squat you should do
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>>77338605
I've actually tried it that way as front back split. It didn't give my shoulders enough time to recover.
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>>77338858
did you do the fix workup? like face pulls, rear delts, serratus, etc, it helped a lot in my case
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>>77338705
>Lombard's paradox is a biomechanical phenomenon in human movement where two antagonistic muscle groups (the hamstrings and the quadriceps) contract simultaneously to extend both the hip and the knee, such as when rising from a squat.
Why would this interfere with the concept of push/pull movements? I think it fits.
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>>77338605
Yes, this is called a "Push-Pull" split. It's quite common since a lot of people don't want to be in the gym 6/week to hit muscle groups 2/week on PPL.
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>>77340006
Post body.



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