Why did white americans stop watching boxing and replace it with MMA?
>>77340788post body you fat piece of shit
>>77340788Because in MMA boxers get taken down instantly and sat on for 5 minutes. Boxing's a good striking base though just learn to defend kicks and avoid takedowns.
>>77340788Americans like heavyweight boxing and there weren't any heavyweight champs who had a fraction of the star power Mike Tyson had.
>>77340797>>77340798Does it have nothing to do with White boxers consistently losing to Black and Hispanic boxers?
>>77340799Mike Tyson is probably still the most famous and loved boxer by the average living American so no. My sister has no idea who Tyson Fury or Canelo Alvarez are.
>>77340799Do you even follow boxing?
>>77340802But other than McGregor, what star power is in MMA/UFC? I don't think the average person would know who Tom Aspinall or Illia Topuria is either
>>77340807Nobody compares to McGregor although I'm sure Gaethje's fame shot up quite a bit with that White House card. UFC desperately wants another McGregor. Bo Nickal and Sean O'Malley were two prospects that kind of fizzled out (both on the White House card as well)
>>77340804Yes. Pretty much all the notable white boxers in recent times are European.
got boxing latersparring nighttwo weeks ago got two black eyes, the ladies in my office made fun of me
>>77340842pretty sure getting black eyes in sparring is not normal.are you a newbie? do you vaseline your face? or are you actually training for a fight?
>>77340848>newbieBoxing since last october, on top of on/off experience with muay thai and kickboxing>vaselineNo>fightNah just for funBlack eyes came from a single shot to the nose, that's all
>>77340799Nice b8
>>77340788UFC has better marketing, that's it.That's why Americans, or white niggers as I call them, are into anime: NETFLIX marketed it to them.
>>77340788Timmy (American) don't hit so good.But a lot of Timmies wrestled in high school, and MMA gives wrestlers a sport that's not a scripted stunt show to perform.
>>77340876nigga vaseline up, it makes a world of difference
>>77341037I have literally never heard from this outside of actual fightsI'll mention it and see
>>77340842ive been doing kick boxing for a couple months and i dont think i've ever gotten a black eye. i've defintely gotten knocked a couple times though. is this more prevalent in boxing or something? i know boxing tends to spar harder compared to kickboxing
>>77341097Nah it was pretty light, I just have a big nose, so jab comes and I move my head but my nose is still there lolWhen you say "knocked" I take it you don't mean actually dropped, right?Leaving in 20mins so we'll see how it goes
>>77340788Mma is extremely weird in the sense that the boring fights in mma are more boring than in boxing because its usually a wrestlefuck fest when its boring in mma but the exciting fights in mma are a lot more fun to watch than the fun fights in boxing and also the fun fights in mma are more common and happen more often than the fun fights in boxing.
>>77340788Boxing is an inner city sport, so its dominated by blacks and Mexicans. Wrestling is a global sport and in the USA basically every high school has a replacing program so there are lots of whites in MMA that came over from wrestling backgrounds.
>>77341130wrestling program*Sorry I have CTE and im lightheaded i only post on here when im working out
>>77340799>>77340788No, because white Americans still turned out en masse for black boxers through the 70s, 80s and 90s.>>77340802Girls here in the UK love AJ and Fury.>>77340807>>77340812McGregor, Rousey, GSP and Jon Jones all became widely known names, although they still fail to break through as boxers have done before (other than McGregor). >>77340842I love MMA and boxing, but sparring always scares me :(>>77340848This, they're going too hard.>>77341037I never really saw anyone doing that except those training for an actual fight.
>>77341022RAF is real wrestling and becoming a thing hopefully it stays around. Wrestling is such a great sport for conditioning and physical fitness, hopefully in the future there are wrestling gyms for adults.
>>77341130And because there's really no recreational wrestling and judo has structural problems across the nation, a lot of people that did a little wrestling get into BJJ, which gets them into UFC.
>>77341022>Timmy (American) don't hit so good.Reminder that the nigga that started the timmy meme was killed by a white while hitting on his girlfriend.
>>77340999anime was popular before netflix was a thing
>>77341148I thought that was some other black lanklet kek
>>77340788- Fewer and fewer white American champions. - The allure of MMA's "closest thing to a street fight" despite MMA having its own set of rules like boxing does. - UFC's good marketing and PR- Boxing has repeatedly shot itself in the foot with petty female like squabbling between fighters and promoters thus causing fights to not happen or only happen way after the 'best by' date
>>77340815pretty much all white people are European, where do you think white people come from?
>>77341222He means from countries outside of Europe you fucking pedantic twat.
>>77340788If boxing is so good then use it in mma. The only thing I'm not doing is training to not stomp someone on the ground. That shit will lose you a street fight. Not like anyone is gonna take me down anyways, I can put dents in my fridge all day I don't have to pull back whatsoever vs even the most jacked person's face or ribs.
>>77340788Ill bite. Tyson, Roy jones and pacquiao.Tyson and his rise had style heavily tailored to his strengths. The way he moved, ducked, jabbed is not the standard american boxing style. Watch patterson to see the difference, patterson still had the american fundamentals.Boxers thereafter became more unique in there athleticism reinforced by roy jones and pacman. Subsequently an entire generation learnt boxing through this lens and finding boxing coaches who teach actual boxing fundamentals is rare. The sweet science is deep but the planet fitness of boxing clubs is evident.Lots of money in professional boxing especially post tyson era (arguable with sugar ray lenard). Global betting forces Promoters to game fights to make the appearence of good fighters while ducking actual boxers. Records need to be 15-0 to even get glanced at. As well as the increase in duration between title fights. Gypsy king was complaining he had to fight twice in 2 years. Also corruption which is still evident in matches. Additionally change of rules for amateur fights. My area heavily penalizes bobbing and weaving which favors certain styles. The rock paper scissors of the 70s heavyweights in ali, foreman, frazier doesnt exist in modern era. So 2 generations of boxers have been ass because they have been taught wrong and modern boxing is bad.Watch any tank davis fight. Hes bad and couldnt be sparring partners to anyone in the 70 or 80s.
>>77340788unironically because it's shorter and fits with the US tiktok brainSame reason why normies replaced Pro Wrestling with MMA
>>77341156yea idk why he said netflix, if he said toonami/adult swim that would fit more with the analogy
>>77340788NFL pays more. Simple as.
>>77340788Too many organizations in boxing and the focused turned hyping up boxers and dodging real fights to keep their records.
>>77342092>>77342122>>77342316Boxing is still huge amongst everyone other than white americans thoughever so this whole "umm it's just not as fun to watch anymore" doesn't seem to ring true for everyone
>>77342348Mma Could be in vogue. Could be whites dont want to associate with the working class element of boxing. Could be health and cte awareness. I stated before the underappriciation of the sport itself. Olympics becoming less important culturally. Lack of white boxers as role models. Inclusion of woman in mma lowers male prestige while convincing woman they can submit men (checks catalog)Mma utilizes multiple fighting styles so I think to the normie this complexity makes the product more entertaining while being a sport new enough on the business side making it more profitable on the back end than for the fighters. Could be why its pushed.Dana white being cheap with gambling problems is unironically keeping fighters at a higher quality.
>>77342688Could be acknowledgement of racial advantages. African muscle twitch and speed are advantageous in boxing. Could be whites migrated out of the sport.Coukd be changing of honor moral codes over time. Stand up fighting still considered more honorable than ground fighting styles and a shift occured
ufc has had record low viewership for a long time nowboxing has had actually high scoring ppvs in the last 5 years, ufc has had nonetheres a list of top selling ppvs on blood elbow or whatever the fuck showing thisufc fuckin sucks
modern boxing is shiteonly bare knuckle dark corner chew is entertaining anymorehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKCB5bUvUXYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iazUsjIQE1s
>>77342716>>77342688>>77342348Tyson Fury and Usyk are both white men and are the two greatest fighters of the past decade, before them it was the klitschkosMaybe this is because white men are the strongest race and have higher IQs?
>>77342092Do you think this is why all those ex-USSR countries turn out the modern talent? I’m thinking Usyk, Bivol, GGG, etc.What about the culture in Mexico?Lastly, in the modern era, is the talent level just lower? I’m still shocked that Usyk struggled with Rico Varhoehen
>>77340797That’s only true within the rules and conventions of MMA fights you tard. In a ring, 99% of UFC fighters would get killed by 99% of pro card boxers. >>77340788Mayweather made the sport boring and there are no exciting heavyweights anymore because anyone with size and athleticism plays football, wrestling, or baseball. Nobody with talent wants to be brain dead at 50 anymore.
>>77340807Unironically Trump and all the eCelebs around Dana White like Rogan and Adin Ross. They do 99% of the hype work for UFC now. The only UFC fighter with any name power is Sean Strickland.
>>77340999It’s also because boxing is genuinely boring now. All the crazy knockouts come in the heavier weight divisions and there are no good heavier weight division fighters. Those guys don’t become boxers anymore. They become linebackers, or sluggers, or wrestlers or even MMA fighters because they can train jiu jitsu and make a check while reliably avoiding being clinically retarded from blows to the head by 50. At the lower weight divisions everyone just mimics Floyd. The best small fighter in the world right now is a guy out of Japan and nobody knows who he is because his fights are boring.
>>77341097If he’s getting black eyes from just training as a hobbyist, somebody in his gym is bullying him in sparring sessions. What’s funny is a reputable boxing gym wouldn’t even let a newbie spar at all. The guy should find a new gym because they don’t give a fuck about him or his development.
>>77342092boxing clubs are like barber shops in the inner city. Theres tons of them and they dont typically like people who arent whoever the owners are. Mexican barbershops is full of mexicans and really only likes Mexicans there. its the same with all the boxing clubs. Whites are excluded and whites don't live in the inner cities
>>77343225>That’s only true within the rules and conventions of MMA fights you tard. In a ring, 99% of UFC fighters would get killed by 99% of pro card boxers.So boxers need special protection because in an actual fight they would get bodied?
>>77343602Yes, because boxing is a gentlemanly way of fighting. All throughout history actual fighting has been done with clinching/wrestling, then striking. They will say never to go to the ground. But they have no idea how to work the clinch or defend takedowns, so they will go to the ground. Group vs one person and Group vs Group you want to know how to clinch and avoid going to the ground
>>77341222India saar
>>77343252Plenty of white trash still live in philly
>>77343961Philly is a nigger city like Atlanta retard
>>77340788Because MMA is a more dynamic and complete fighting sport. Boxing is too restrictive. People want to see a real fight.
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>>77341222Europe was populated by abos and indian tier subhumans until the migration of the meds which came from central china.British corpses point out that the earliest whites were from egypt.
>"fighting" in an enclosed, unnatural environment (a literal cage, like a slave) while wearing protective equipment and following "rules" that will get you otherwise "disqualified" because rabbit punching someone is a big no-noAll modern "combat" sports are just kid games. In a natural fight these "fighters" would get murdered within a minute.
>>77343898The way ufc is reffed makes it more gentleman like. They won't let you fight a dazed opponent like boxing will.
>>77340788I switched from boxing to mma because, well, it's more exciting to watch and it's also shorter. Irl when it comes to actually doing something I only do boxing because that's something you can practice alone.
>>77344487I guess you can't grapple alone but you can kick. I think kick boxing is more fun than just boxing
