If you start balding in your 20s, you will experience a lot of insecurity and some people will even look at your with disgust, you will always be seen as "the bald guy"But if you can make it to 40 without killing yourself, you will realize it's not that bad. The funniest part is seeing guys around your age starting to lose hair and getting desperate about "their fading looks" but you already experienced all that shit so you're immune to it.
>>77343014>being bald when you're young is okay because it will eventually happen to other people Now that's cope.
>>77343014Okay McBaldstein, thank you for letting us know.
>>77343014I was bald enough to start shaving my head at 23 (I’m 44). One issue is that lots of guys straight up can’t pull off a shaved or buzzed head. They have the wrong face proportions, ear position or size, head shape… It’s like being a guy with no jawline so you have to have a beard, while other guys can just shave and they look fine. Or they’re fat, so they look like Curly from the Three Stooges, or they’re skinny so it’s cancer.>it must be a death sentence to be balding at 21Not much more than just being a normal guy. 21yo girls aren’t fucking most 21yo guys. Most 21yo guys work at a grocery store or drive a forklift or something, play video games constantly, and live with their parents. 21yo girls are running around with 27yo+ guys. It’s mean obviously you’re better off with hair than without; don’t be retarded. But it’s not like being fat or a nerd or something. I was bald but had a much better social life than videogame playing shut ins or men under 5’ 10”.
> hair transplant (fin not even needed if not too far gone)> PRP injections> exosomal therapy > Botox injections> microneedling > topicals such as cetirizine, caffeine, melatonin, hydrocortisone, tretinoin, latanoprost/bimatoprost, and others are with verifiable evidence for regrowthGuys, losing your hair is not the end of the world. You have options beyond drugs that make your dick stop working permanently due to permanent androgen receptor death.
>>77343058Will you anti-fin shills ever stop haunting this board?
>>77343042>21yo girls are running around with 27yo+ guys. True, looksmaxxer zoomercels are cooked.
>>77343061I’m not anti-fin. I think plenty of people can safely take fin and get good results. But the simple fact is there’s a mechanism with fin when it goes systemic that can permanently down regulate the androgen receptors in your penis. It’s just undeniable. So it’s risky to take fin and that’s why a lot of men don’t want to do it. And let’s think about it logically. Who is that risk most dangerous for? A middle aged man, who either already has children or is far past his sexual libido prime or a guy in his 20s for whom PFS would be totally devastating? Obviously the latter. So knowing this, why wouldn’t you look to other therapies? It’s just retarded not to. These people need to understand that is a wide range of therapies with evidence. They are not caught between a rock and a hard place.
>>77343014>he fell for the "fin kills your dick" meme
>>77343067It’s been that way for a long time.Typical 21yo guy:>probably not /fit/; most likely skinny fat>lives with mom and dad>car is unreliable hand me down or cheap beater>works for very low wage; not a promising future>still uad awkward teenager vibes>doesn’t know how the world works (things like booking a flight or going to court)>plays video games a lot (girls fucking hate this)A typical 21yo girl is at some of her peak years. She’s young enough to still be about as hot as she’ll be in her life, old enough to date, and mature enough to do so. Her financial situation is probably the same, but it doesn’t matter for girls. Youth and beauty are much more important.Men start out their adult lives at what might be their worst years. I guess being on overweight alcoholic who’s on the sex offender registry might be a peg below an average 21yo guy. One’s more likely to redeem himself/grow, but both are basically invisible to girls. Of course this lived experience of nearly all men is juxtaposed to the Hollywood ideal where you’re early 20’s are the best years of your life, where pussy just falls out of the sky and lands on your dick.
>>77343042>>7734306737 literally norwood 2 dating 21 year old.looksmaxing is a death sentence, it's an instant red flag to women.girls like attractive boys, women like attractive men, not feminine men.
>>77343014>But if you can make it to 40 without killing yourself, you will realize it's not that bad.1. Why are you 40 and on /fit/2. Why are you cope posting about being bald
>>77343067I think the main reason millenials want to date zoomer women is because millenial women are the worst women to ever live.
>>77343136>norwood 2You're not even balding, fuckface. Kill yourself braindead tard.
>>77343067>>77343122This is cope btw guys. You know what the average attractive 21 year old is actually doing? She’s going to frat parties, college bars, dating college athletes, shitty college apartment parties. They hang out almost exclusively with college aged people and do college aged things. A very small minority are in a city trying to date older men seriously or being flown out for yacht outings off Miami or whatever. An even smaller minority are dating older men because they’re mentally ill social outcasts. Most of them are just living a lifestyle that does not include older men in any way. This is also why millenial men are coping thinking they can just date college aged women. You can’t. You’ll be dating a girl who goes to frat parties without you.
>>77343067Girls have always been into older guys. My wife was 19 when we met, I was 27. My previous gf right before I met the ol' ball and chain was 18. The one before that was 21. It makes sense when you think about it - the older guy is still relatively young, he has a car, a home, disposible income while also being more mature and stable.
>>77343122The problem is a lack of foundational stability.A 21 year old girl can still fall back on her family for support, and most do. Their parents still pay at least some of their bills. If not, she has access to numerous state programs for things like healthcare.Men are treated much worse by their families and governments, and are expected to not only immediately stand on their own and support themselves, but ALSO a woman (she's triple dipping at this point between her father, her bf, and her government, on top of her own wages/salary), AND EVEN MORE SO to prop up government programs by paying taxes.The ideal for men is to be a trust fund kid young man who engages in sports. Rock solid foundational support from family and the leisure time to actually look athletic, the money to buy nice clothes, and no worrying about paying bills (taxes). At that point, he can pursue women on the same level, and when it's time to get married and get a job and support a family, he has connections (from family) to do so quickly and easily and get on a career ladder.It all comes down to support. Men need a lot more support than they're getting. Families need to support their sons more and let go of their daughters earlier. Doesn't want to get married by 24? Okay, you're cut off. Enjoy wageslaving.That's not harsh, either. Most men face that cut off at 18.
>>77343136>37 literally norwood 2That's normal though. Nobody has a NW1 hairline after 35 unless they got hair plugs/transplant.
>>77343164you'll have to cope m8.
I have a full head of hair and I wish I started balding so I have an excuse to just go bald
>>77343193You have a mental illness. Go outside.
>>77343203I shaved my head once and it felt really nice
I have dark hair so I’m thinking about having scalp micro-pigmentation done while I save up for real treatment.
if you are desperate enough to do all this shit then you must have an awful, awful life>>77343058
>>77343204So shave it again?
>>77343014i am balding in my late 30s and i stopped caring. no one cares they just see as an old person
>>77343236> caring about your appearance means you have an awful lifeAlmost certainly the opposite actually. It means you put some effort in and have a bit of money.
>raised on baby formula instead of breast milk as an infant (even if on breastmilk, the mother is most likely eating goyslop)>fed porridges and vegetable purées as a small child>ate junk food slop laced with sneed oils as a kid (TV dinners, chips, sodas)>start vaping/smoking/drinking alcohol as a teenager>all while barely getting any exercise due to being stick to the phone/PC and getting everywhere by car/bus and not getting any sunlight>"Yeah dude, I didn't get lucky with my genetics"It's an open and shut case pretty much.
>>77343169Those are some nigger tier thots. Besides, most people these days meet online. Every girl with a social media account has a dozen of older guys in her dms.
>>77343069>PFSThat’s how I know you’re a shill.>>77343162This x1000
>>77343193Me too, cutting it all the bloody time - my dad was bald at 40 and i'm waaay past that
>>77343481>Waaaaaaah why do I have good hair genetics?!Kys. Not even bald, but this is just gay.
>>77343361Just because the guys are in her DMs doesn’t mean she is fucking them retard and if you think all attractive college girls aren’t going to college parties you’re a naive fool>>77343408PFS is an unverified but realistically possible condition. It is objectively true that 5-ar inhibitors can and often do affect androgen receptors beyond the scalp. It is also objectively true that they can cause permanent dysfunction. Simple understanding of the drug’s mechanisms and human physiology make that undeniably clear. Whether this is happening or how often, nobody really knows. But the point stands either way that it is most definitely possible and you have zero evidence or logical reasoning that can suggest the contrary.
>>77343560Since you know so much, what do those androgen receptors in your dick actually do? Make it grow bigger? Post puberty? Pray tell
>>77343162>>77343408anyone that has been around a millennial woman would agree, it didn't even start with them. generation X women are the absolute bottom tier of women, they just were too old to be spamming on the internet every little thing.
>>77343014>>77343022>>77343042I'm pushing 40 and more than half the guys I know who fuck and got married went fully bald by 30, and it's fine. Just work out to stay fit and wear a hat when it gets cold. I'm like the 5% of friends and family that went full sasquatch and it's actual hell. Grey hair looks cool but grey pubes don't, and after a while it starts growing fast and like steel wool more than actual hair. Being bald seems way more practical than looking like a wizard>>77343058My dad looks like Captain Picard and got dots tattooed across his hairline and chrome dome to match the buzzed shit around his ears and back of head. That honestly wiped 20 years off him
>>77343014I mean if you are ugly it doesn't matter.If you fit into the category where having hair makes you at least somewhat attractive, it would be wise to do all the sacrifices available to you in order to have a full head of hair while you are young. When you are middle aged, the rules of the game will have changed. You will still feel like shit being bald but it won't cost you nearly as much socially because it is normal to be bald at that age.
>>77343014I'm 41 and started fin and min 2 weeks ago... when is my dick supposed to stop working?
>>77343014>23yo>baldi was incel at 18 when i still had hair, i am still incel now that i am bald. i even argued on here defending finasteride while i was still coping with that lol, i so desperately wanted it to work but it wasn't, and it was killing my libido to the point i couldn't even get hard at all. if it works for you then that's great but know that the side effects are real and under-reported because in the moment, guys care about their hair so much they'll lie to themselves and others about the side effects they're experiencing.anyway it made 0 difference since personality is unironically the most important factor to dating success. if you're the kind of guy that is the life of the party when you enter a room, you'll get girls even if you're skinnyfat, bald and 5'6. i'm a miserable old fuck and i'm awkward, that's the real reason girls don't like me. this is the final redpill that is the hardest to swallow, because changing that is much harder than any surgery or pill.
>>77343905ultimate redpill
Shampoo causes hair loss, i stopped using shampoo and hairloss stopped and now its thicker than before
>>77344151it's just oily which gives the illusion of thicker hair
>>77344151There are some ingredients where this is true like DMDM hydrantoin, but mint extracts are more potent 5-ARIs than fin found in lots of shampoos so DON'T F'N GENERALIZE.
>hit about a NW2/3 left to right before finding out there was treatment/preventionMight get a small finger-sized transplant to my temple sides to even it out and that's it. It's alright and I can style around it, but it can look like shit sometimes.
>>77343905Clavicular solely disproves this. He makes himself as autistic an unlikable as possible in person but still has whores attaching to him in clubs and whatever because he is handsome and has clout. These are what matter.
>>77343014Aren't there plenty of alternatives affordable to young adults?I see all those videos of glue on wigs.I had a professor that had a wig with a hat on top, that was more than a decade ago.
>>77344151I use head and shoulders every day man my hair is thick as fuck
>>77343518Runs fingers through thick, silver mane.What were you saying?
Trooned out wog thread
>>77344305me too
>>77344296he's an outlierfame changes things
I've been growing out my hair for 2.5 years now and you can't imagine how much seethe and jealousy I get from bald guys
>>77343014chlorine dioxide
>>77343014I'll just be the wacky wig guy stop giving a fuck, retard. Everyone's too involved in their own lives to ever give a fuck about you
>>77343905>anyway it made 0 difference since personality is unironically the most important factor to dating successNope. It's face. Being bald doesnt matter when you're pretty
>>77344623>Everyone's too involved in their own lives to ever give a fuck about you
>>77343193No, you don't. You'll never understand balding unless you go through it yourself. You feel grief like you're losing a loved one.
>>77344623Unless you want a woman to feel sexually attracted to you, or you want to pass a job interview.Yeah, going about life buying groceries no one will give a fuck that you're bald because they won't even notice you exist.But as soon as you put yourself in a position where people will judge you, then you're fucked, because a bald head will absolutely skewer peoples perception of you, even if it is subconscious.>wacky wig guyJust jestermaxx bro!!!!
I dunno, guys. I think being insecure about balding is worse than plainly balding and living with it.
>>77343014the thing is, this is the least of your problems. you will never own a home, you will never have a good wife, your country is occupied, the most evil people to have ever existed are orchestrating your genocide.
>saw palmetto >jojoba, tea tree and rosemary oil concoction >scalp massages >regular egg masks >????>profit
>>77344516get a haircut you gross hippy
>>77343067realistically, they are going for guys who ALREADY DID the plastic surgery and got money, and then look back at the guys their age as "cringe" for taking the steps that the older guys did literally before covidWomen comprehend time like niggers
>>77343014Picture related - that's your solution.>>77343042>One issue is that lots of guys straight up can’t pull off a shaved or buzzed head. They have the wrong face proportions, ear position or size, head shape… It’s like being a guy with no jawline so you have to have a beard, while other guys can just shave and they look fine. Or they’re fat, so they look like Curly from the Three Stooges, or they’re skinny so it’s cancer.Solution - get buffed, or just wear a cap if that is the case. Buzzed head + cap. Everything is better then almost no hair -if not growing a pony tail and wear it like a man
>>77343061This isn't the 'finasteride board'
amazing how 4chan has all these 30+ "chads" that are apparently all bagging 18 year oldssuch a chad website
>>77343122>things like booking a flight or going to courtim 32 and have never done either of those, why would I need to?
>>77346721to fly somewheres
>>77346661I've unironically seen a bald guy who bags young girls but he's a turbo normie. If anyone on 4chan says it they are lying.
>>77343058>hair transplant (fin not even needed if not too far gone)If you get a hair transplant, without meds, your balding will continue, so you'll have hair at the front and and increasingly baldness beyond that. You have limited donor hairs and at best you'll end up like picrel probably