What’s the most dangerous exercise?
>>77343394Sliddin one of Andy's fat logs of shit without proper throat stretching.
>>773433941RM squat I think has the most fatalities and permanent disabilities.
>>77343401I thought it would be bench.
>>77343402I have no idea but my speculation:I feel like if you are at a gym, someone can see you struggling on bench and help you on time. Meanwhile squat you just suddenly snap your shit and you are done.Of course things change at home gym.
>>77343402You fail a bench and just roll it onto your tummy and sit up, then roll it off your legs.1rm squat feels legitimately terrifying.
>>77343394Suicide grip on behind neck OHP
These are the top 4 by rate of life threatening acute injury: 1. Bench Presshuge drop off2. High Effort Squat big drop off3. High Effort Deadlift, especially mixed grip 4. SnatchBench is obviously number 1 due to risk of crushing. Squat and Deadlift are 2 and 2 partially due to crushing in the case of the squat but mainly due to passing out and spinal injuries. Same with snatch but less so. The 5th is so much lower it’s pointless to mention.
Leg press is also pretty high but I think that’s historically because back in the day they used to use plates that could fall and crush your face
>>77343394Hand grenade juggling
Anything that’s putting weights where they could fall on your face or neck is most dangerous. Anything that could see you realistically pass out and hit your head on equipment is second most dangerous. Anything that could put shearing forces on your spine would be third most dangerous. Weirdly, lifts that you would think could cause highly dangerous femur injuries barely do cause those injuries, but I would probably put that pretty high too. Snapping your femur can be extremely bad. Beyond that, you can get bad injuries but they generally can’t kill or cripple you.
>>77343511Bench is definitely not a "fail a rep and die" exercise unless you are some roider benching a dozen plates. If you're positioning yourself properly, it shouldn't crush your neck, and shouldn't be heavy enough to crush your ribcage either if you just roll it off.
>>77343522And yet people do die from bench press crushing their trachea or severe head trauma so I don’t know what to tell you. Take it up with the science.
>>77343506what are you on about, 1rpm bench is infinitely more riskier than 1rpm squatyou fail a bench with no spotter and you have to actually feel the 1RM weight bar pressing against you to roll off, because the guards to catch the bar at typically very level with your chestbut if you fail a squat, pic rel catches the bar well before youre even fully sitting on the ground, you dont have to worry about being crushed or whatever Im fucking confused is everyone in this threat squatting without long safety attachs??? are you fucking retarded?
>>77343506>You fail a bench and just roll it onto your tummy and sit up, then roll it off your legs.>1rm squat feels legitimately terrifying.While I generally agree, a small portion of people failing 1RM bench either crush their trachea or ribcage+heart/aorta and die on the spot; very unlikely with safeties/spotter especially if not bone/cartilage-let, but does happen.Stack up a crap-ton of picrel to really duck catastrophic lifting accidents.
>>77343394giving your heart to a woman
>>77343511are all of these the same sample size or is this just total number of injuries because this only makes sense to me due to popularity of these lifts, snatch should be the highest
>>77343627Wdym? I bench to failure every week without spotter for a decade with no issues. Safeties always perfectly stop it, I never rolled the bar in my life.You set them below your rounded chest and above flat chest. Then when you fail slowly lower the bar down and untuck shoulder blades.
probably 1RM snatch/clean and jerk
>>77343815ok but my point still stands, the risk is non-existent in squatting with safeties compared to benching solo, thats why im confused with why theres even a debate going on here
Bench without safeties because there's the one in a million occurance where the bars somehow slips and it's on your face, neck, chest etc.With squats you can in most cases drop the bar behind you or even fall in plenty of positions and the barbell with plates is designed to be such that it won't guillotine you. It would probably be awkward tho.Any overhead movement with serious weight is bad because nothing catches the weight from falling on your head if you get an episode and your reflexes fail. But people do millions and millions of reps in these and compete etc and I don't recall one youtube video where someone just drops the weight on themselves. Those probably exist but haven't looked into them.
>>77343821It's possible to pass out and you don't land on the safeties
>>77343627In squat the plates keep the bar up high enough from the ground that you can in theory fail the barbell squat bent over backwards and not suffer a serious injury and then the bar either rolls from your back or above your head and it probably feels like shit but is nothing serious.Another issue, same with bench, is if your squat in a bad corner or the safeties are set wrong and it turns out you get pinned under the bar. That's what happens in a lot of the videos.In bench, if the safeties are too low or they are otherwise not good (mfw the safeties have plenty of space for bar to get on your neck between the rack and safeties, who desingned this?), the safeties can actually be what kills you because they prevent you rolling the bar away.
>>77343824Stuff like OHP is pretty safe because you can easily just step back and drop the bar
>>77343394>What’s the most dangerous exercise?Landmine presses
>>77343834I'm thinking about times where your reflexes would fail. And the correct way to do the movement is to push your head forward while your arms are fully extended and the bar is straight above you for full support on the body chain.However, I still haven't seen one video where someone decides to drop the barbell or a dumbbell on their head. If someone has one I could look at it but could happen if people get an episode mid-rep or something. But there are plenty of videos where people dislocate their shoulders when their shoulders extend behind their back. In controlled fails, you can indeed just step one step backward and let the weight fail.
>>77343401Nope.>>77343394Bench Press, but how dangerous it is likely has more to do with how stupid people are.>https://www.mdpi.com/2673-6756/2/1/1If anyone can find anything pointing to something worse, by all means, proceed. After that if I had to guess, squats for potentially fatal runner up the physics of heavy squatting is basically asking for it, and in third, deadlift absolutely deserves a spot on the list. I doubt a DL has ever killed about but the number of people with rods in their spine cause of DLs has to rival fucking ATV crashes.
>>77343394the most dangerous exercise is obviously skullcrushers you idiots, its right there in the name
>>77343841I do OHPs to failure twice a week and never had any sort of danger. I do it right next to the rack and if I fail a rep I just throw it on the rack. If your arms sway behind your head and you dislocate your arms then you're lifting way too heavy with way too shitty a form but come on, you could make up a ridiculous scenario for any weight. What if you're bicep curling and throw the dumbell at your own face?
>>77343394Weighted swim-ups
probably atlas stone ohpvery legitimate risk of head injury therehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLr6rv198vAimagine one of these stones hits their head on the way down
i saw a guy doing incline bench bust his face by failing to get the bar racked. only time i’ve seen blood at a gym.
>>77343881Yes I should have been specific (drunk posting again) that stuff where you use power to get the weight over your head is different. Like snatch or circus dumbbell press, where you are using your legs to press more than you could with your hands. And if you try to get the weight to any place other than straight over your body and head, you fail.If you do normal oph where it's up to your upper body strength, there's very little risk that you just say oops and drop the weight on your head without any reflexes coming to play.
>>77343394French Press
>>77343394Flat bench and barbell squat
>>77343394preacher curls with underdeveloped tendons + ego lifting
>>77343506a few months ago as I was attempting a dyel pr, I accidentally dropped the bar on my chestsomehow my wrists gave and the bar slipped forwardtake care when lifting anything that can drop down on you I say
>>77343394Tricep kickback
