The worst advice I see given to newbies is that they have to “push themselves.”>Bro, you gotta bust through mental barriers bro>You gotta lift until you want to vomit bro>You gotta add 20 pounds to your lifts every week bro>Leg day should hurt more than an adult circumcision bro>Just imagine your ex-girlfriend putting a big, brown cock in her butthole, bro>No, I’m not a cuckI don’t understand this mentality. I’ve literally never trained to complete failure and never pushed myself excruciatingly hard, and I’m in great shape.It took years to get here, but it takes years anyways. Fitness should be 3-5 days a week, every week, until the day you die.I do my lifts until I run out of energy to maintain proper form. I run 2-3 miles at a moderate pace. I still got faster and stronger and leaner rapidly even without “Goggins Mentality.”Maybe if I lifted to vomit mode every time, I would have progressed like 2-3 months faster. Who cares? Even if you’re fat as shit, you don’t need to subject yourself to fatty torture to improve. Just go walk a mile and then lift the smallest dumbbells on the rack.I know niggas that started off benching the empty bar that bench 2.5 pl8s for reps now.1% better every day for a year is a 3,678% improvement.
It’s all relative and for newbies it just means to push yourself and concentrate on what you’re doing instead of just coasting which in practice means that until your form starts to give.
>>77345306Post body w/timestamp. OP is a retarded faggot. The two biggest reasons people don't see gains is shit diet, program, recovery, etc., and/or lacking intensity. Intensity/effort/pain are so subjective & fact is most people are pussies.
>>77345354Source?
>>77345306i agree for beginners. just be consistent and develop the habitonce it's already a regular thing for you tho, it makes sense to try to push through barriers
>>77345354>OP is a retarded>>77345355>Source?>>77345306>1% better every day for a year is a 3,678% improvementKek
There is no physical activity that is worth vomiting for. Every time you vomit you risk dying from either a heart attack or the even worse and even more gruesom Boerhaave Syndrome which will make you vomit blood over and over until you die in a matter of minutes. I cannot imagine a more gruesome and disgusting death and I genuinely pray to God that when he takes me, it will not be like that. Nothing is worth it.
>>77345306>Goggins MentalityYou're reading entirely too far into what "push yourself," means. If this is your impression of what it means, I can only conclude your a massive pussy. One of them skinny fat dyels that posts "this is the body of someone whose trained for x years" kek
>>77345375>He’s never heard of compound interestYou gotta start Jewmaxxing, anon.
>>77345391That metaphor is fucking retarded. The fitter you get, the greater the challenge you need to progress, you literally have to keep pushing your limits. Jfc, baka, sybau.
Huh? I just go Super Saiyan and AHHHHHHH AHHHH AHHHH through the heavy ass deadlifts you fag
For every guy truly pushing himself, there's 100 going 5-6 RiR and not breaking a sweat.
>>77345396If you perform compound lifts then the gains of the gains will become your gains. Then you invest the gains to grow even more gains.
>>77345306If you take what a broccoli headed swarthoid DYELet says seriously then you're already done. Put the weights back where they belong and exit the gym, you're done.
>>77345616Going 100% multiple times a week will result in tendonitis
>>77345354>>77345306
>>77345391>compound lifts>compound interest You’re onto something here, anon.
>>77345306For a few months when i first started going to the gym i used to fight le demons at the gym and larp as doom guy and duke nukem to motivate myself. When i built the habit i realised it was fun and it felt good to do it. My explanation is that most beginers had some kind of shock or trauma that made them walk into a gym, for me was realising i was so fucking fat i couldnt see my dick. I was angry at everything, but specially at myself. Rage is a powerful motivator.
>>77345306I don't get it: why derive motivation from the fantasy of your dream girl cucking you when you could derive motivation from the fantasy of your dream girl creaming herself over your goal body?Imagine replacing the last two lines of OP's post were replaced with>just imagine your future wife slipping her fingers under your shirt and saying that she's been thinking about your body all day bro>no, I'm not based
>>77345306>It took years>I’m in great shapeok then post body, show us what "years" of steady progress looks like>inb4 you won'tthis board is so predictable. all of you think you have found the one true way to train, yet after years of training you all look worse than physiques who get tagged as "early intermediate"
Yeah, you gotta be careful with that overtraining.Be sure to recover well.
I don't go to this board but reading the threads here I think you're basically macho trannies.You really sound a lot like trannies, but instead of becoming girls you want to become men (which you don't feel you are). Interesting
>>77345306I agree. I've been fat my whole life and have tried and failed to lose weight countless times in the past. For the first time in my life I'm actually making real progress and I'm not even trying that hard.What I realized is that is that actually doing *something* consistently is far more important than doing things "optimally". I'm honestly half-assing my diet but I've managed to keep it up for 9 months where as I've never made it more than a few weeks in the past. I'm still far from my goal weight but I'm at least in a better position now than I was 9 months ago. Today, I tried on some old clothes that were too tight before and now they actually fit and some of them are even too loose now. I know it sounds like such a small thing but I've literally never experienced that before. There have been so many times in the past when I've bought clothes that were a bit tight and convinced myself not to return them because I planned on losing weight only to end getting even fatter. This is the first time in my entire life that I've had the experience of my old clothes getting looser instead of tighter.If any of you are lifelong fatties like me I recommend just starting now and not worrying about being optimal. Build consistency first, optimize later. Even half-assing your diet is better than not dieting at all. I'm sure I'll have to optimize eventually if I want a truly great physique but at least I'm slightly less of a fatass now than I was before and that's more progress than I've ever managed to make before.
>>77348380consistency is probably the most important factor when it comes to basically any long term goal, but if you don't do things optimally you'll probably end up in a plateau eventually and you might never get out of it unless you improve your approach.
>>77348626>but if you don't do things optimally you'll probably end up in a plateau eventually and you might never get out of it unless you improve your approach.Noob opinion. Natties don’t plateau until they already mog 99% of Americans. It’s useless to talk about plateaus with someone that’s overweight and weak. They can worry about that once they’re repping 2.5 pl8s on bench.You niggas talk like you’ll plateau while looking like Jonah Hill from Wardogs. More likely you’ll plateau looking like Tom Holland in Spider-Man, and that’s if you have shit genetics.
>>77345306I lift the weight until I can't lift it anymore
agree ,that's my advise too for runningdon't push yourself ,go at easy pace for 1 hour (it doesn't matter if you're slow) and when you'll start liking running you could actually try to push yourself or not.
>>77348749All of the "requirements" for the man in your image are really prerequisites to have a satisfying life. Whoever said having it all worked out and having women naturally orbit around you is exactly how it should be, you want to look good for yourself first after all. Those who prioritize others never make it
>>77345306>Lifting board>Immediately starts talking about cuckholdry and interracial sexHey Rabbi
>>77348749I wasn't talking only about bodybuilding, also if you only care about looking like tom holland and then staying that way you can get away with less training in the maintenance phase if you do things efficiently
>>77348814>also if you only care about looking like tom holland and then staying that way you can get away with less training in the maintenance phase if you do things efficientlyLol, most men will only ever dream of looking like Tom Holland.This is the natty goal until you reach it. Once you reach, you can aspire to things like Zyzz.Which, once again, this “I have to train perfectly so I can look like Zyzz within 3 years of training” is the wrong mentality. You should aim to slowly approach Tom Holland’s physique and then augment your goals once you actually get there.But for someone weak and overweight, it might take 2 years to get here. Who cares? You have 80 years to get /fit/.
>>77345306Because those people who want to go to the gym don't identify themselves as gym-goers so they use "motivation" as a crutch until they're actually gym-goers. The easier path would be to just switch your identity
>>77348881I don't disagree with you anon, I simply wanted to point out that despite being very important consistency isn't all there is to it since a lot of people are puzzled by the fact that they completely stop improving after a while (and if they are retarded enough the level they'll stop at might be worse than what you'd expect)>But for someone weak and overweight, it might take 2 years to get here. Who cares? You have 80 years to get /fit/.I just started learning the piano without lessons with this exact mentality, even if it'll take me ten years just to become decent at it I'll still get decades of having fun playing an instrument at an acceptable level, so my aim is just to take it easy and enjoy the process
>>77346860>"I couldn't stop thinking about your dick while I was in class"Just wanted to throw out a good memory into the ether. I don't understand people who place /someone else/ in porn either. Seems like cucks are wrestling with their emerging homosexuality.
>>77348380>Today, I tried on some old clothes that were too tight before and now they actually fit and some of them are even too loose now. I know it sounds like such a small thing but I've literally never experienced that before. There have been so many times in the past when I've bought clothes that were a bit tight and convinced myself not to return them because I planned on losing weight only to end getting even fatter. This is the first time in my entire life that I've had the experience of my old clothes getting looser instead of tighter.Same here. I just tried on a pair of jeans that were already a bit tight when I first bought them and were way too tight a year ago and now they fit perfectly. Feelsgoodman.jpeg
>>77345306This is the gayest advice I’ve ever seen anybody give. In life, how you do ANYTHING is how you do EVERYTHING. If you’re doing something, put forth effort in the task at hand. Simply putting a modicum of effort into whatever it is you’re doing puts you ahead of the majority of other people around you, so it’s good to get in the habit of not half assing things and the gym is a good place to develop good habits like this that translate to other non-lifting aspects of your life.You should post body.>just threw up in the gym parking lot after leg day>due to lumbar herniations I’ve not been able to properly train my legs >finally figured out how to work around the issue, and finally making gains I fucking love throwing up after the gym. It means I put in as much effort as I could, absolutely nothing left in the tank
>>77345391If you think girls in your area don't care about you, you might be looking for a different city, state, countryIf you think girls who are interested in you aren't allowed to be with you, you might have a women's rights problem
>>77349420>just threw up in the gym parking lot after leg day>due to lumbar herniations I’ve not been able to properly train my legs>finally figured out how to work around the issue, and finally making gainsThis is all counterproductive to health and muscle growth. You’re not progressing faster than the next guy because you vomit more.This is just autosadism. You feel better and more productive when you punish yourself because you think you deserve it.
>>77346860I don't understand cuck motivation lol wtf
>>7734874999 percent of natty "plateaus" are just people who never change their training style or experiment to see what actually works for their body and just give up, it's cool tho they aren't really trying to get big anyways or care
>>77349420U don't get more gains for throwing up and ur legs are showing that lol.
>>77349420Do you think esophagal rupture is worth the gains when you are dead?
>>77348905This is way too true your identity that you larp as becomes you ...no it is "you" and I'll tell you why: because we are the gap. We are the gap we are an ever changing identity. For example what happens when God tries to change his identity? Well god ceases to exist. Now what happens when you change your identity? We are the gap that words cannot fully capture, we are the limits of language itself and what that means is that you can wake up one day and say "I'm a gay retard" and u can just be that way. When u lose your identity what happens? Well u have to engage too directly with the pointlessness of reality. How can I prove we are the gap between language and reality? Well .. if you notice something here: you will never be satisfied in totality, just like clavicular changing his nose there will always be that "one last thing" and that "one last thing" is the gap itself that is insurmountable. So perfection is when you look at a girl and you say "she would be perfect if she just had this one last thing" that's the literal gap of language, language can never fully capture or describe anything. This is extremely deep I doubt many will understand this esoteric knowledge
>77349834Schizos should not be allowed to read Lacan (a schizophrenic)
>>77349837True
>>77345343>>77345306There's fuckloads of newbies who will just take a shitty 5 lb weight and bang out 20 reps barely exerting themselves and stop only when you tell them because it's so fucking easy."You have to push yourself"~= "you need to train to failure"
>fitness board>incapable of conceiving that not everyone has the exact same identical fitness goal>incapable of understanding that not everyone is an /r9k/ reject like them and only lifts because 4chan told them to
>>77348749>Natties don’t plateau until they already mog 99% of Americans.Completely true. Gym bros have skewed standards compared to the general population. IRL, guys who would get called ottermode here are considered ripped chads. Most people don't try at all or if they do try they give up after a few weeks. If you try even a little bit and manage to keep it up long term you'll be ahead of most people even if you never reach your theoretical maximum potential.
>>77345306>>Leg day should hurt more than an adult circumcision brothis is true thoughbeit
>>77349788Why would my esophagus rupture?>>77349754>you’re not progressing faster than the guy next to you because you threw upOf course I am. It means I took my body to the absolute point of exhaustion. Next week I will be able to do more. This is how your body adapts and how gains are made.Besides, I absolutely love the HIGH afterward. Absolutely drenched in sweat, almost floating. Not that you’d know because you’re DYEL and you don’t even break a sweat.>>77349770>no legs postedI just started a new routine and I’m not used to the volume. My body will adapt, and I will be stronger and better conditioned for having pushed through something that’s difficult.
>>77350231>>77349420I've done some pretty intense workouts but never threw up. You're probably just out of shape.
>>77350242Like what, walking your fat ass up a flight of stairs?
>>77350231why do you have a cow face where you cock should be
>>77350318Because I don’t want any fags jerking it to my bulge
>>77349768>99 percent of natty "plateaus" are just people who never change their training style or experiment to see what actually works for their body and just give up,99% of people never plateau because they never train. By the time you hit your first real plateau, you’re already healthier than most of the planet>it's cool tho they aren't really trying to get big anyways or careGetting big by /fit/ standards is a fool’s errand. This place is full of body dysmorphic trannies that call Tom Hardy in the Dark Knight Rises “skinnyfat.”They’ll call Tom Holland a twink DYEL when he’s a strong, fit, lean man who can run 3mi in under 20min. AKA all things that matter for actual health (above average muscle mass, low bodyfat percentage, great cardiovascular health). Coincidentally, this is also what women find most attractive, not Prime Ronnie Coleman.
>>77349878>There's fuckloads of newbies who will just take a shitty 5 lb weight and bang out 20 reps barely exerting themselves and stop only when you tell them because it's so fucking easy.The real redpill is that these people will progress even doing this if they stay consistent. I know cuz I’ve seen it happen.
