The most successful bodybuilders and strongmen in history barely get 2 servings a day, and this is only for low calories/macro nutrient ratio, not for"health reasons". Why are fruits and vegetables pushed so hard?
>>77345563vegan retards. next question.
>>77345572i have no further questions, your honor
>>77345563It used to be that people got like zero nutrients in their diets which were just bread and nothing else, so adding a vegetable would improve things a lot. Nowadays everyone is fat, and because vegetable is a lot of water and fiber it's very filling so helps lose weight. More veg has always been good advice for the average person, but body builders have very different nutritional requirements and objectives to the average person (looking like the freakiest freak in the freak contest vs. looking hot and being healthy).
>>77345563Carbs and sugars aren't building blocks necessarily not to downplay on their importance
>>77345563>The most successful bodybuilders and strongmen in history barely get 2 servings a dayThe fuck are you on about? Big Z would eat shitloads of vegetables. Brian Shaw was following something along the lines of the vertical diet. You question is based off a false premise you've made up in your head.
Fruits are sweet and want you to eat them, hence you can eat them raw.Vegetables are full of antioxidants and poison. Most modern vegetables are cultivated to contain less poison, but still try eating raw potatoes, rice and grains, see how that goes.
I like eating fruits and veg, I also like eating meat.
>>77346356anon, we have discovered fire, we can cook our stuff now. but sure, by your definition meat is bad too because raw meat will eventually cause problems for you as well, think parasitic or bacterial infections.
>>77345563>The most successful bodybuilders and strongmen in history barely get 2 servings a day, and this is only for low calories/macro nutrient ratio, not for"health reasons". The problem with this statement is you have absolutely no proof for it because you made it up entirely.
>>77345563The first nutritionists were religious vegetarian nutjobs that thought meat was evil and plants were holy. Fruit and vegetables benefits fails to reduce mortality or disease in randomized trials so they just pump out cheap to do, weak association data all the time
>>77347227Can you point me to the source for your image? I'd like to read more.
>>77345563Fruits and vegetables are good for you but not that good for building muscle. They have fibers and vitamins that your body needs unlike excessive amounts of protein but you do need protein to build muscle that’s the difference.
>>77347258https://www.nature.com/articles/nrcardio.2009.131Somewhat old review paper but largely holds true even today afaik. Large scale RCTs in nutrition arent done after the failure of the WHI trial
>>77347422Thanks
>>77346356antioxidants are good for you dumb nigga
>>77346356anon... what do the animals eat... why do Americans think like this, holy fuck 20IQ
>>77347436Plant antioxidants are meant to protect plants. Read a book on basic biology, dumb nigger.>>77347459You are not a cow nor a horse, you should not eat grass.
>>77347488>fruits are also plants>fruits also contain antioxidants>therefore we should not eat fruitssuch is life for anti-vegetable googoogagamaxxing retards
>>77347488lmao this >>77347524 you fucking retarded dumbass. The highest amount of antioxidants one would find in natural food is in fruit, you moron.People ate whatever they could, including the pastoralists you pretend to be directly descended from, who would also fish, hunt, and gather wherever they could
>>77347868all plant foods are good for humans. even the so-called 'anti nutrients' ketoshizos ramble about are highly beneficial.
>>77345563I wouldn't use roidtrannies and lab rats as good examples of how to eat. You need fruits and veggies, but not to the extent vegetarians and vegans harp about. Micro-nutrients and antioxidants in vegetables and fruits benefit not just health, but allow your body to better use the macro-nutrients you consume too. Fiber is also great, keeps the bowels clean and helps your lipid profile and blood sugar be in good standing too.
>>77347874I will say that they are antioxidants themselves, generally. But they can indeed reduce nutrient intake or cause GI upset in large amounts.However, in cooked food, it's like saying one doesn't eat cherries because of the pathetic amount of cyanide one would have to go exceedingly out of their way to consume AT ALL by chewing dozens of cherry pits
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>>77347926you burnt the taters
>>77347929>he doesn’t eat the entire baked potato>he doesn’t like eating crispy potato skinsLet me guess, you don’t eat kiwi skins either?
>>77347934of course I eat them that's why I said you burnt them. what dressing did you use on your salad?
>>77347935I don’t have a recipe, but I’d say 5:1:1 Apple cider vinegar/sherry vinegar/maple syrup, a small spoon of Dijon mustard, lots of black pepper, and enough olive oil to give the emulsion the viscosity I want.The measurements aren’t exact, I mix the base to taste and then emulsify the oil
>>77347956nice that sounds good. i can't be nasty to you so i hope you enjoy your evening.
>>77347963Thank u bro, that’s very kind of you. I appreciate it. I hope you have a nice week and make some good gains :)
>>77345563>Why are fruits and vegetables pushed so hard?Rationign after WW1 or WW2, I forgot. If you read books on nutrition before the World Wars, they are all like "Well, a few veggies and fruits won't kill you, but better not eat too much, it's just water and they aren't really healthy", just like we talk about sweets today.
>>77347926This looks fantastic. I hope you enjoyed it.
>>77348283Thoroughly enjoyed. It’s hard seeing some people’s photos of badly cooked steaks; it really isn’t rocket surgery.
>>77347926Composite material for the table, enjoy your offgassing and microplastics
>>77348485It’s a METAL table, you dumbass. Aluminum would be my guess. >no body postedSee? I told you so :)
>>77345563I don't know but I get insane health gains from my veggie shake
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