Not sure where else to make this. How do we feel about nicotine? Havent had any since christmas and I've quit a few times successfully for about this long (half a year), but the craving seems to come back and I forget why I quit in the first place.Even if it was a source of anxiety and stress itself, it also obliterated any other sources of that and it always gave me a "free win" helped me to relax and focus, and unlike caffine which I see people abuse to insane levels now didnt make me jittery like a crackhead.Havent touched any stimulants since christmas not even caffine and physically I feel much better in the gym, but mentally I feel like shit and even if im doing better in the gym etc. I feel too demotivated mentally to go most times.
>>77347173I do not care about this new cattle product
Nicotine and black coffee is awesome on a cut. Otherwise nah
>>77347173Was a pack a day smoker for 10 years. Quit cold turkey 6 years ago.I'm never touching nicotine ever again, absolutely retarded drug, makes you anxious for the next hit then the high lasts a couple minutes and you start getting anxious for the next hit.A life of nicotine addiction is a life of constant anxiety and anticipating the next hit. You are no better than a crackhead.
>>77347196damn dude get a grip. just because you couldn't handle your shit doesn't mean we're all junkies like you.
>>77347206Ok junkie. Have fun with your faggy pouches.
>>77347213cry more about anxiety you massive faggot.
>>77347173It’s best used in moderation. I don’t think it should be used daily, or to the point you feel anything other than normal without it for any period of time. Like it should be an occasional treat such as smoking a cigar to celebrate something huge like getting married having a child getting a huge promotion etc.That being said I fuckin love zyn’s and have 6-12 3mg a day. They say 20mg is where you start stressing the heart.i do seek to quit it. I can pretty easily go without any pouches for half the day on my days off and not even notice until I get fidgety around 6 hours in. Used to vape a few disposables a week all day long just chain vaping all the time so this is a huge improvement but I still gotta quit.My main reason is I believe my huge intake of caffeine and nicotine are responsible for my inability to focus like I used to. I think, while helpful initially, they are responsible for my exacerbated ADHD issues.
>>77347173It's unhealthy and addictive
>>77347185fpbp
>>77347185FPBPBuy an ad, brand
>>77347241>hey say 20mg is where you start stressing the heart.good to know. I started using them instead of cigs and now I just do 3-5 3mg a day, tapering it down to 0 eventually
>>77347196Salt nicotine has a 45 minute half life and freebase 90 minutes give or take. >no better than a crackheadAll addictions are the same pretty much, you are chasing free dopamine and have rewired your brains reward system. The only difference between caffine and mdma is how high the rollercoster is and how low you go to reach stasis.Also speaking of half lives caffine has a 6 hour half life which is why it ruins your sleep.
>>77347185>nicotine is new>>77347286>>77347371Pathetic samefag
Idk I use it at work and that's it. Helps get through the day
>>77347241>It’s best used in moderationIts impossible to use in moderation for 99.9999% of people. It feels too good at first when your tolerance is low, and unlike caffine which jist masks tiredness nicotine is basically adrenaline chemically. Its natural purpose is to overstimulate insects to the point they die.The second you start thinking of using it any time you feel bored or stressed its unironically over and the only way out is 2 weeks of ceippling depression/anhendonia and insomnia. Followed by 6-9 months of staying clean to allow your brain to reset during which the entire time you'll be to some degree in a state of depression which is why 85% of people who make it to 1 month of quitting relapse.
>>77347936Nah it's fine
>>77347925Get a vyvanse script, imagine nicotine but you never feel cravings for it and it lasts 8-12 hours, and doesnt fuck up your heart+lungs or gums/teeth. The withdrawals are also a complete joke compared to nicotine.
>>77347942Vyvanse is so gay, like 1 out 5 people are basically on it and it makes me feel like a dipshit for not being on it but I cant find a doctor willing to be my drug dealer.
>>77347942I go to the dentist and my teeth and gums are fine. A pack of nicotine pouches are like 2-4$ and sometimes they have fun flavors. It's fine
>>77347951>dont have one for ~2 hours>in a state of panic until you do>its fineYa haha... Also receeding gums cant be fixed without awful surgery, and a lot of dentists are dogshit and miss simple cavities all the time let alone gum problems early.
>>77347959I don't panic at all. You're just projecting your own dumb experience on me.I'll tell my dentist they're doing a shit job cause some guy on 4chan said so
