>Don't squat it's bad for your back/discs>Don't deadlift it's bad for your back/discs>Don't bench it's bad for your shoulders>Don't OHP it's bad for your back and shouldersSOWHATAM I SUPPOSED TO DO???I fucking swear people spout this shit without ever talking about replacement or even programs bc every fucking program includes these movements
Don't do it with ridiculous weight like an egolifting retard>t. did exactly that
isometrics and calisthenics retard lmao
>>77348219like every other thread on /fit/ the answer is that it depends. is deadlifting bad for your discs? yes, quite possibly the only thing worse than it is smoking. but it's also the one thing that reliably builds a good back, so you do it at a light weight and don't chimp out under five plates
You actually don't need any of those exercises to build strength and mass. Plenty of other better alternatives.
>>77348219>Don't squat it's bad for your back/discs>Don't deadlift it's bad for your back/discsBased>Don't bench it's bad for your shouldersYou made this up>Don't OHP it's bad for your back and shouldersYou're too much of a faggot to OHP anyway
>>77348312actually that's exactly what I'm doingI've had to zero my bench and OHP from a mtb injury so I'm just doing the bar now, but the doc told me no bench no ohp no pullups.That was a while ago, and I started physio 6mo ago and the physio said I should be fineStill scared though, shoulder at such a bitch man
If your goal is hypertrophy and you want to avoid injury unironically you should use machines.
>>77348219The body adapts to stress. All these people fearmongering either do not lift or lifted like retards and predictably snapped their shit. Load management is the key and if you do it right you never have to worry about injury. No movement is inherently dangerous or nebulously "bad" for you, but any movement can fuck you up if you load it too aggressively too often or too early, before your body can adapt. And deliberately avoiding any "bad" movement out of a misguided attempt to avoid "dangerous" stressors just leaves you even weaker in those ranges and even more vulnerable to injury. >>77348337There's more to health and the underpinnings of muscular development than *just* hypertrophy. Might as well just inject yourself with saline if that's your only goal.
>>77348338you're an idiot. a movement without weights isn't the same as the same movement with weights. just because you strengthen your muscles doesn't magically remove pressure on vertebrae and suspend it on muscles only
>>77348343Your body isn't made of glass and your back will be far better off getting stronger through graded exposure than if you baby it your whole life. Almost everyone's discs degenerate over time, regardless of whether they did back squats or not, but this is not the same thing as having actual back pain or symptoms. Healthy load management and graded exposure build resilience to acute injury and strengthen the muscles surrounding the discs through a wide range of motion, enabling them to support the discs regardless of how they may change.
>>77348219>muh shouldersAll these people are pussies who gave up and bitterly post like whores to keep you down at their level. Work through the pain. No shame in taking time off for healing. You'll only come back stronger.
>>77348312Based and truthpilled.
>>77348219All those lifts are perfectly safe as long as done right bro the people who say they're bad are stupid boomers who wrecked their backs and shoulders on those lifts through ego lifting with crappy form, all on top of doing retarded shit all day in their manual labour jobs and working unsafely. It's either that or 140lbs pussies who only train on machines and are so scared of getting injured because they think human bodies are made of glass, that they never push themselves on any lift and stay small and weak forever do the compounds bruddeh, push hard but always stick to weight you can ACTUALLY lift. If you've gotta bounce the bench off your chest and thrust with your hips just to get the weight up on the first rep, you got no business lifting that weight yet and need to work your way up. balance is the key, keeping good form while still pushing yourself hard
>>77348219as an old fuck now that snapped his shit doing heavy compounds and recovered my advice is >do higher rep ranges>do accessory exercises that strengthen your weak points>don't neglect warm up and mobility>if you work for low reps you absolutely need to cycle your peak effortif you follow these you are probably good
>>77348397>don't forget warmupthis is the secret. focus on reps is good too. I do 3 sets, starting with a little below my max 10 for 15-20 reps. Rest are too failure. I'm getting fucking ripped.
>>77348234The reason you're not liked by other people is that you are unoriginal and mentally dim.
>>77348415I'm liked by people in spite of being unoriginal and mentally dim
>>77348472They instantly dislike you just like I did. You're too stupid to catch on though.
>>77348246>Plenty of other better alternatives.such as?
>>77348219if you are in ur 20's, you can do anything you fcking want. even if you fck it up, you will bounce back. but if ur nearing the end of 30's, then ur joint health matters more than ur adventure.
>>77348530nah having a herniated disc in ur 20s is a horrible way to start ur 30s
>>77348593You are probably right but you talk like a retard so Im going to ignore you.
>>77348219Low weight high reps. No one gets messed up working in the 20-30 rep range, when something goes wrong, it's light enough that you don't cause any serious injuries if you stop right away.
>>77348219Those movements aren’t the problem, the problem is extreme weights and eventual form breakdowj that cokes with it. If you lift a reasonable weight and don’t go for “prs” and “1rm” you will be fine
>>77348312Bench is literally more dangerous on an injury-per-minute-performed basis than squats and deadlifts though. It's just that squat and deadlift injuries are more catastrophic (shoulder injuries are no joke though)
>>77348755>It's just that squat and deadlift injuries are more catastrophicThat's the point
>>77348219>squatNobody says this.>deadliftYou can do alt exercises.>benchNobody says this.>OHPRotator cuff issue is a real thing but if you don't have that you don't need to worry. Just lift, faggot and stop finding excuses to not do so.
>>77348219>>Don't squat it's bad for your back/discsTrue, do BSS or belt squats instead.>Don't deadlift it's bad for your back/discsTrue, do back extensions instead.>Don't bench it's bad for your shouldersTrue for barbell because it denies freedom of rotation, do dumbbell bench instead.>Don't OHP it's bad for your back and shouldersSame as bench, do dumbbell.
>>77348530>you can do anything you want until you do it enough to suffer the longterm consequencesMight as well say smoking is fine in your 20s until you get cancer.
