>PEDs aren't needed>Excessive training isn't neededEat healthy and exercise consistently and everything else (sleep, stress, etc.) will fix itself.
>>77352462This is unironically what i'm striving to look like.Also bumpWhat types of food must be eliminated in order to look like this.
>>77352462Listen anon, homie, brother, I really hate to tell you this but that man is on steroids. I know people like Sam Sulek and Rich Piano have clouded your judgement - and that's totally okay - but you need to be more realistic
>>77352462bro a huge fraction of people take antidepressants, things that there is zero evidence of working, proof of homicidal and suicidal tendencies from taking them and they often destroy their sexuality. You're right but if there's any sort of pill supposed to help something, stupid people are always going to take it. Same with PEDs despite them permanently damaging them if they take them in any quantities.
>>77352462why don't You look like that if its that easy ?
The thing is, healthy bodies (such as so-called pic related) just aren't impressive these days
>>77353050Just stay in a deficit and eat 1.25g of protein per lb of body weight
>>77353050Someone like that weighs 80kg btw.
>>77353224Entirely achievable natty. A lot of people are lazy and will take roids for natty achievable physiques, but that doesn't mean this physique isn't achievable natty. Look at old pre-1950s era bodybuilders, when roids weren't even invented. All of these guys would be called roiders but are natty because roids literally didn't exist.
>>77353050have you tried just not eating?
>>77353284All these men are natty, from before roids were invented.
>>77353295they look natty
>>77352462It's harder than you think to quantify 'excessive' training especially when it comes to what wide spectrum of genetic response people have to training in first place.
>>77353284>>77353295Indians knew about steroids back in 6th Century BC. These old ass bodybuilders were roided to the gills, don't fall for it
>>77353318They did shit like drinking bull urine and eating bull hearts which is pure superstition and wouldn't actually result in any real testosterone increase.
>>77353284>easily achievableIf you have top 0.01% genetics, then possibly. But for 99.9% of people, you HAVE to take steroids to have a body like the OP
>>77353247Where in the text of OP does the word "easy" appear?
>>77352462>>77353050>striving to look dyel in a t-shirt
>>77353295Why do they all look like shit particularly the midsection
>>77353334Cope>>77353344You have body dysmorphia
>>77353346Piss off roidtranny
>>77352462>I want to be normal and average my whole life and never take a risk to be greatGross must not be American.
>>77353318If the shit they were doing worked why don't we still do it instead of the risky as fuck Magic Cocktails they were using for 50 years.
>>77353358Oh look it's Average Man! Nobody looks his way! You can't even tell he lifts until he brags about it! Look at his average feats of strength!
>>77353372Look, it's insecure man! He was never a chad in high school, so he sacrificed half his lifespan to a magic genie to be stronger, but the wish was cursed and the genie turned him into a hideous ogre!
>>77353295they used cocaine to cut, so technically they were not nattyroids are not the only type of drug that counts as a performance enhancer
>>77353334wtf are you on lol. the OP picture is not particularly built. that being said, the individual does have good proportion and no body is guaranteed to look like that cutting down to that bf%. in the other progress thread half the people look like that
>>77352462I don't want a "healthy body" I got fit to max my slut mongering abilities and that's it.
>>77353574You ever see what liver failure does to a person? Just wait until it craps out and your skin is yellow and covered in sores and you're weak as a kitten. Good luck picking up girls when consequences catch up.
>>77353295Pictures like this produce cascades of roidtranny cope. But I mean these 3 niggas are genetically blessed
>>77353948Yeah, that time alsa was also permissive of eugenic practices. Not everyone today has the same starting point since we've degenerated a bit.
>>77353295Why are their heads so huge? Are these 5' tall midgets?
