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>>77350336

i keep overeating when home alone because I'm too retarded to understand that parents etc are not really going to stop me from eating more when they're here and I think I'm sneaking behind their back to eat burgers or some shit. fucks up my diet every week

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>>77352505
Not to be sensationalist but thats addiction behaviours. It happens because when you are alone your brain starts to tell you that you can get away with your behaviours without anyone knowing, which feels like you are getting a free pass to fall off the wagon.

When I was an alcoholic I used to be able to keep a lid on it when living with my parents but the second they went on a holiday or something I ended up drinking myself silly from the second they left, because my brain instinctively knew that my shameful behaviour that I was trying to keep in control could be indulged in without consequence.. well thats what my brain thinks

In reality it doesnt matter whether someone sees me doing it or not, its still damaging. but just the thought of nobody being able to perceive you failing is a strong enough drive to make you do it.

The good news is I no longer do this. It took a lot of time to get myself out of the habit but its gone now. You have to learn to overcome this impulsive brain drive that just because nobody sees your shameful behaviour, that its still shameful. Well, shame is a bad emotion to have, but thats how you see it

>>77352513
yeah I guess I know this more or less, it's just so annoying. like I can do multi day fasts easily if they're at home, but the house was empty for a couple days and I went through like a week's worth of calories. worst part is that I can leave all of the "actual" addicting stuff (cigs, booze etc) cold turkey anytime I want, but the food demon keeps raping me

>>77352500
>>77352227
Ok so going back to this, how do people prevent the weight regain? Is there a way to 'reset' your set point?
>>77352266
>>77352494

>>77352613
Getting in the habit of cooking for yourself instead of eating frozen meals or going out is the #1 way.

Fatty Contest
LeChacel
180lbs
5'7

>>77352619
Started at 205 on May 13th. Started my current diet at 197 on May 26th.

PSMF is great, I highly recommend.

Should i do less lifting if i can't hit my daily protein reliably? right now i can only hit around like 70-100g per day average maybe, sometimes as low as 50g
On one side i heard that you should lift regardless because it tells your body that you still use it, on the other i heard that if you overshoot it you'll break down muscle way faster because it's being teared without anything to repair it, so what's the middle ground?

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Past the inital water weight drop after my summer solstice lock-in and immediately my metabolism pulls the emergency brake.

"Hohoho! No no, we're keeping these fat rolls."
"But I'm fat!"
"And underweight."
"But-..."
"Quit making that face and hit the gym in a surplus if you wanna lean down. We're not losing any more weight."

broke through 85kg plateau and now at 84kg
easy life

>make meal plan
>lift
>have lunch
>go out
>feel tired and hunger
>break meal plan with disgusting cheese roll
how I not do this besides become a hermit

>>77352688
bupropion

>>77352704
elaborate

>>77352688
Just do lighter/healthier snack

>>77352722
helps impulse control

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i'm eating 100 grams of raw red bell peppers (about two) every day to get enough vitamin c. thoughts?

>>77350806
congratulations anon, glad u got a good deal

>>77352751
bready good. get an orange sometimes to mix it up ig

The heat is killing me
Still did 10k steps

there's a good chance when i weigh in today im gonna be normal bmi

WAGMI?

I'm pretty sure I crashed my metabolism doing OMAD and eating 1.5k-1.7k a day. I'm not losing any weight anymore. Been stuck in the same range for a week or two. Super frustrating I literally want to murder the scale. Not sure what to do

>>77352871
Noice. Keep going.
>>77352874
Iktf
I only need to Look at Food and I gain Weight.

lately my snacks consist of 1kg cut up and salted tomatoes
thoughts?

>lost face fat before i lost my moobs and love handles
it's fucking over, that shit's coming off last
the two things that make it impossible to look good in a tshirt

>>77352935
just lift and lose more weight bro it is what it is

>>77352660
F

>>77352877
they constipate me. otherwise, great snack.

>>77352874
>I'm pretty sure I crashed my metabolism doing OMAD and eating 1.5k-1.7k a day. I'm not losing any weight anymore. Been stuck in the same range for a week or two. Super frustrating I literally want to murder the scale. Not sure what to do
No, it's just glycogen. You'll have a major woosh soon and loose like 10lbs in two days.

91 pounds until goal weight :O

>>77353094
gl bro, for me it's 60 as of now

i spent all my calorie allowance on breakfast. when will i stop doing this?

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I ask this last time but response just anti-Indian racism. My neighbor recommend stretching and Holy Gomutra 5x a day and eating lots of rice and lentils to lose weight? Does anyone have experience with this? Does it work as well as they say?

>>77353138
you can just drink your own pee, you do not need gomutra.

In the morning bring a glass with you to the bathroom, then start to pee and after a moment catch the stream in your cup and drink it. The first bit of the stream is excess minerals your body is getting rid of, so you don't need them. This is a popular way to start the day for many people who enjoy the fresh taste of urine in the morning. You can search for urine therapy and pee drinking to join the community if you're horny about your urises.

For eating, you should eat a restricted amount of lentils and rice. You have a daily total amount of calories to maintain your weight, and you need to eat less than this amount to lose weight. So, if you need 1800 calories to stay the same weight then you need 1300 calories of rice and lentils to lose 1 pound of weight per week.

>>77353138
your neighbor is retarded and brown go shit on his doorstep to thank him

>>77352874
What macros? Just eat pure protein to rev metabolism up for a while, also consume veggies or mostly low cal vegetables

>>77353094
I have to lose 26lbs
The last Stretch is always the hardest

>>77353143
Thank you. I will try own pee but I don’t think it will work.

do I really need fat in my macro?
I already cary a lot of it

>>77352613
continue to be vigilant about both diet and exercise after meeting your original goal

Do I need to like football to view this thread

I'm up to 3 sets of 3 chin-ups, feels good bros.

It's not much but a year ago I couldn't come close to doing a single one and I felt like I was going to die just from dead-hanging on the bar. My arms still look like wet noodles so I'm guessing the "gains" are mostly from having to pull up less weight, rather than building muscle.

>>77353210
I've been at my goal weight for about six months now and I'm super paranoid about falling off the wagon. It feels like I could just wake up one morning and suddenly I've gained all the weight back overnight lol

>>77352613
I gave you the answer in the last thread.

>If you don't make any changes to the lifestyle that got you fat in the first place then you're going to gain the weight back.

It's not a videogame, you have to change the way you live. Replace sitting at the computer with a bike ride or a hike twice a week. Get a new job where you're more active or ask for a role change.

Lidl unsalted rice cakes are actually pretty fucking good
It just tastes like unsalted popcorn

I would go crazy weighing in daily like some do. I weigh in at the closest every 2 weeks

I want to see some big changes before weigh myself and seeing numbers go up would disappoint me from fluctuations.

As long as I train as I should, eat the macros I should and rest the weight will keep going where I want. All math

Looking in the mirror, weight scales and thinking of the future or past is what fucks with my head the most. When I can put my head down and work is when it goes best.

I do weigh all my food though and count macros for some reason that does not negatively impact me I just see it as getting me closer to where I want to be

However when I focus on results which is based on my genetics, hormones or abilities I feel worse. Better off focusing on the step by step process making sure I do things right and the results are simply a symptom of what I do (the scale weight or how I look in the mirror)

The muscles also have no idea how .much weight I am using to lift. All they can feel is tension which can become more or less in engaging the muscle by mind muscle connection, negatives
and form I use so there is no use in me trying to hit high numbers. I am not strong anyway the progression will come over time

Keep grinding niggas. You deserve to look good and be healthy. No one is better than you

>>77353268
ChatGPT post

>>77353272
Nope. That's my actual thoughts.

>>77353203
>Essential fatty acids, or EFAs, are fatty acids that are required by humans and other animals for normal physiological function that cannot be synthesized in the body.[1][2]
>Only two fatty acids are known to be essential for humans: alpha-linolenic acid (an omega−3 fatty acid) and linoleic acid (an omega−6 fatty acid).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_fatty_acid

I really need to buy a scale already
I'm just eye balling the chicken from the 500g chicken pack

>>77352613
There's no such thing as 'set point'. Its just the words people use to describe "the weight I end up at when I eat 'normally'". Overweight people tend to return to a past weight because they eat like they used to eat and stop watching the calories, not because they're somehow drawn to a 'set point' of weight.

>>77353288
So if I cook my chicken breasts in Olive oil. That should be good enough

Who else is going ozempicmaxxing?

>>77352629
Ur fine but try to get ur protine goals in the future don't overthink anything the only time to start getting nitty gritty is when u need to dial in and experiment to see what works for your body to continue growing

living alone and having unlimited access to food is not good

>>77353379
Post body

>>77353328
idk. and idk how much is enough

>>77353268
Excellent mindset what u are avoiding is the insane trap of "I want it right now" when you want to close the gap between your goal and you immediately without taking it step by step and enjoying the process. When you want it "right now!" You instantly activate neurosis because three things happen: 1. you want a guarantee of an outcome which doesn't exist in real life.
2. You enter into the tension between enjoying the fantasy of your goal in your head by imagining the ideal outcome and the pain of reality never reflecting that in totality so the closer you get to said goal the more painful it becomes because a lack of a gurantee and the collapse of the enjoyment of thinking about the ideal scenario as reality butts in can be too much to bare. In other words the fantasy of the thing you are enjoying thinking you are or will be has to meet reality and that comes with the risk that it won't be validated. For 4channers who are highly neurotic that is unbearable so instead of taking a leap which is the key to life. You search for a guarantee, instead of asking the girl out you do nofap. Instead of trying to talk to a girl and try out new strategies you spend a year in the gym and looksmax. These are attempts at a gurantee but since a guarantee cannot exist in real life and it's a fantasy you will endlessly circle endless neurosis. That's why when u start making progress in something you get scared because now it's real now ur fantasy will get closer to having to contest with reality. We enjoy the desire to get the object itself not the object. Receiving the object only makes the fantasy about the object collapses. That's why kids get bored immediately with a toy they just got. They got the thing so the enjoyment of picturing the thing in your mind is gone. That's why women behave in ways where ur like "why can't they just be straight forward" because when you fully have something your enjoyment of the fantasy of what it could be collapses.

>>77353417
Part 2. That's why flirting is all about the things left unfinished there should always be room for interpretation thats why vulgarity collapses enjoyment, if I say to a girl "let's fuck we both are attractive" a male would be like why the hell wouldn't we do that it's logical and makes sense. But enjoyment collapses immediately.

If you say "wanna come over and watch netflix" the ambiguity leaves room for enjoyment. This is obviously a crude example but you understand what im saying.

>>77353429
Try it, try to want something you already have and see how it feels. Now try to want something you don't have like a console or a game try to juxtapose those feelings with a game u wanted at the time more then life itself but now own. Examine that. You will find you gain far more enjoyment from the desire itself rather then having the product. Why do we enjoy long grinds? Same reason you have time to enjoy the desire itself and fantasize about the outcome.

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Thoughts on retatrutide?

absolutly retarded question
will doing abs exercises burn more belly fat

>>77353451
No.

Here's some bro science:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1Im9q19CrE

Either watch the whole thing or take the conclusion of no.

Took out a few shirts that I bought months or years ago from some outlet stores but forgot about them until recently. A few of them still had the original packaging and tags on them. I feel like I actually look pretty good compared to when I was 40 lbs heavier, some of these henleys and knit tees look very good with my arms and shoulders and smaller waist now. I think the diet and workout routine has been working well. WAGMI
>>77353379
Living alone and having unlimited access to food is good if you play your cards right. I was able to streamline and volumize my diet by keeping mostly whole foods on deck and keeping a bunch of healthy meals prepped and available. It just takes discipline and telling yourself no to eating out for a few weeks, eventually it won't feel like a burden on your psyche
>>77353268
The daily weighing helps me stay honest and keeps me mindful of all future activity for the day. That being said, 2 weeks should be more than enough to see that scale weight loss assuming things go well (and it sounds like it does based on how you're keeping track of your food). Different ways of doing it, wagmi though
>>77353203
Its essential for hormonal function in both genders. That being said, most regular men can get away with 40g per day. Fatty foods tend to be calorically dense but they are also good for satiety (assuming they're not too processed) so it is a balance. I'm closer to my goal weight and want my diet to be as friction-less as possible so I keep a pretty good amount of fats in my diet

I am currently 23, 6'2 and Super Sedentary (2000-4000 steps)(7000+ If I go to Walmart).

On May 21, I was 303lbs and have been losing weight at a begrudgingly acceptable rate.

However, for the past week I have been stuck between 274.4lbs & 274.8lbs.

I mostly only eat between 2:30pm & 6:30pm and My daily diet is terrible right now (because I have access to a meal plan and I don't want to spend more money nor waste what I already spent) :

~ 2 Cups Of Black Coffee [?Cal]
~ 2 Cups Of Green Tea [5Cal]
~ 1 Alani Juicy Peach Energy Drink[10Cal]
~ 1 Bag Of Sunchips (Garden Salsa) [330Cal]
~ 1 Pepperoni Pizza Hot Pocket [290Cal]
~ 1 Lean Cuisine Spaghetti With Meat Sauce [310Cal] + 1 Table Spoon Of Parmasean Cheese [10Cal]
~ 1 Joseph's Pita Bread [60Cal]

However, I feel the poor quality goyslop should not detract from the deficit itself.

Do I need to do a full 72-Hour fast to get past this hurdle or do I need to commit to 10K steps a day to get my metabolism going again?

Also, I need walking pad recommendations because while I know walking is good for me, I don't want to be tired and out of breath and still lament the fact I have to walk back to my room.

>>77353490
your deficit is too big relative to your height and weight. ~6 lbs per week is very fast, even starting from 300 lbs. it's quite possible that your metabolism has slowed to account for the very limited food you're providing your body. i would recommend using the tdee calculator in the op to find what daily calorie budget would let you lose 2.5-3 lbs per week (~1% bodyweight) and stick with that. you may continue to stall out a little bit longer as glycogen stores/"water weight" replenishes but weight loss should be more steady and consistent after that.
fasting won't help, but extra exercise certainly won't hurt if you're willing and able. you are correct that the food being all goyslop doesn't really have anything to do with the success or failure of weight loss.

>>77353467
Would anyone recomend that fittuber guys full body workout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_YW24F5HGc
To do while dieting. I wanna start building some muscle too so when I finally hit my weigh goal can want to start working out properly I have something already kinda built
And I would wanna "Go beyond" with it. He says 3 times a week, But I wanna do it like, Every other day and on rest days do like Zone 2 Cardio for a hour

>>77353490
You're losing weight too fast. You'll look like a human flying squirrel if you try to go even faster.

i did a 10 minute HIIT session yesterday and now i'm too beat up to move

my walking pad arrived like 4 days early so i had to carry it up 3 floors , thats all the working out im doing today
my arthritis has been bad today too thankfully i could just slide it up the stairs most the way

>waist measurements not going down despite weight loss
>despite resistance training and upped protein
it's so over

Some anon suggested for me to get popsicles as a dessert and I just bought two boxes from food lion. Fucking hell man I already know it's not gonna work. Popsicles are just frozen juice

>>77353598
I used to do hiit when I was younger, that shit is intense. Don't be a pussy bro get yo ass up

>>77353755
Weight loss is so gay. It needs to be more linear

>>77353451
Is this your first day in a fitness space kek

>>77353687
How the fuck did you carry that all the way up there, sounds impossible. I would have hired some Mexicans

>>77353755
the thing is with waist measurements is that towards the end your waist doesnt go down that much because its the last place your body takes fat from so measure your thighs and stuff as well

>>77353765
what areas should i measure? i also measured my neck and i lost circumference there which means that with the bodyfat calculation i have now a higher bf%

Guys, I think I found a lifehack to not feel hungry. Basically, don't drink diet soda. I think artificial sweeteners make you crave more food

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saw myself in a mirror again

>>77353761
not so bad if you can slide it across the rugs and stuff just my top floor has a twisting stair case thats super steep so it was a pain

>>77353793
Yeah I said so last thread, your body expects the calories from sugar but doesn't get it and then you get hungry.

>>77353793
i don't do artificial sweeteners yet i get hungry. whaf do i do?

>>77353802
i think he was making fun of you

>>77353838
What do you normally eat in a day?

>>77353841

i legit did pay a mexican 20 bucks to help with carrying my 90+ pound desk top surface up three floors
worth it

where do you all lurk irl

>>77353997
I don't leave my mother's basement.

>>77353799
same
>>77353844
rice, chips, fruits, bread and chicken. i manage 1500 calories but i want to maintain even less.

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>>77353799
you're going to be all right anon

What would happen if someone who is in shape took weight loss drugs? I need to cut a little bit more to get ripped but I keep failing. Surely if bloaters are allowed to cheat then so can I since I've actually put in years of effort to get this far.

>>77354039
you lose muscle as well as weight, terrible idea

>>77354039
>What would happen if someone who is in shape took weight loss drugs?
he'll get ripped.
careful not to overdo it. i'm sure you're familiar with ozempic face. some people experience muscle loss but it happened to women as far as i knew so the mechanism is unclear to me.

this walking pad apparently been sitting in storage so long the oil dried up and i cant use it at all or itll break

>>77354046
can't you oil or grease it? or are you the anon with the new pad?

i've been stripping in my room after eating due to overheating which started happening after i started doing cardio.
this led me to notice how massive my thighs are. they are disproportionately large like women are built. i have extremely large hamstrings and the fat covering them only makes them larger.
it reminded of the study anon posted about permanent changes in bones due to being fat during puberty and it being estrogenic.
thank you for reading my blog.

>>77354058
yeah im gonna buy 10 dollar thing of oil and hope it works fine after that

Just burnt 1600 cals on a fast. That has to be a lb right

>>77354107
depends on what you mean. a pound is ~3000 calories

>>77354107
>Just burnt 1600 cals on a fast
thats not how it works

>Have 1 (one) vodka seltzer
>Retain like a motherfucker the next day
God damn it.
I tested it like 3 times the past few days and it happens every time.

>>77353519
>your deficit is too big relative to your height and weight.
>it's quite possible that your metabolism has slowed to account for the very limited food you're providing your body.
Is this actually a thing?
Fuck me, is that why I'm slowing down for random intervals despite being in a deficit of 1000+ every day for the past 230+ days?
Don't tell me I need to actually eat the "normal" amount of calories for my current weight (304) for a while to fix this. Even thinking about the "normal" amount of food that I was eating at my starting point of 424 makes me sick now.

>>77354118
Basically all alcohol does this to me, ultimate gains goblin.

>>77354120
No, read the articles on the OP, 'starvation mode' isnt something any of us need to worry about.

>>77354120
i'm not him and i'm still testing this so i can't really answer.
i started at 31 bmi. i'm now at 28.7 bmi. i've stalled for months starting at 27.5 bmi while eating at at least 300kcals deficit. i.e. i've been steadily regaining the weight i lost despite being on a deficit.
i tried eating at TDEE for a month and it didn't work.
i tried to pick up keto but failed spectacularly.
i picked up HIIT about 10 ago and have been doing 5 minutes a day. i'm consistently HOT after eating and have discarded bed covers when sleeping except for a thin sheet. i've been using thicc blankets before.
i would like to think that my basal metabolic rate was slowed down and now it has increased but it's been 10 days already and no change on my weight.
i'm the blogger above so you can be sure i'll be blogging again later.

>>77352629
If you are recovering ok then it should be fine.

>>77352688
Good news everyone, I solved this by not having dinner.
I hit my kj target, did not hit my protein target though
>>77352723
I hunger

>>77353328
Nah, olive oil is mono unsaturated. Just eat like a half cup of walnuts a day. Avoid seed oils because they are estrogenic.

>>77353451
No. There are some research papers that say fasted walking (like right after you wake up in the morning) will hit visceral (belly) fat slightly more than subcutaneous fat because it has better blood flow.

>>77354166
Yeah but that slightly more is like 5% and walking burns so little calories that you'd have to do it for hours.

>>77354120
Could be micronutrient deficiency maybe? Have you been super low fat dieting for a long time? There are essential fats you need. Maybe check your vitamin/mineral/electrolyte intake as well...

>>77354168
If you want to get more esoteric, technically visceral fat has fewer insulin receptors than subcutaneous fat, which you might be able to exploit. For example, instead of fasted walking take a whey protein shake just before starting. That will jack up your insulin for a few hours. This should inhibit subcutaneous fat release much more than visceral fat release. That way all the calories you burn would be from visceral fat. I haven't seen any studies done, so if you try the experiment report back here.

How do I hate food?

>>77354178
you need to not hate nor love food
you need to get back to neutrality
eat your designated meal, enjoy it then move on
it shouldn't be an overly emotional thing you lean on or spurn

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>>77354120
i think you're ok; i remember you posting your spreadsheets and you eat something like slightly under 2000 calories per day, right? i advised the other guy to eat a little more because he's eating like 1000 calories per day which is just awfully low in itself and at his stature i imagine is leaving him tired enough that he's getting effects like reduced spontaneous movement and a slightly reduced bmr. even though your deficit is big too, your calorie counts/weekly rate of loss don't read as problematic to me and i think your slow weeks aren't really anything to be read too deeply into. would probably help to throw in a "refeed" kind of day here or there if your deficit does make you feel super low energy.
should also clarify that i'm not saying that guy will never lose weight again even if he continues to eat 1000 calories and i don't think a "starvation mode" that would put a hard halt to his weight loss exists, i just think this slowdown may be explained by his excessively huge deficit.
on the topic of "starvation mode" anecdotally i'll add some of my own data. because i am a loser i live in a way that i don't always have access to food and sometimes end up legitimately kind of starving unintentionally (~500 calories per day) and the rapid weight loss is always followed by a stall from hell despite continuing a deficit corresponding with a ~1.5 lb per week loss. i figure due to glycogen replenishing and reduced movement.

>>77354182
Yeah I'm typically a little under 2000 a day, sometimes a bit lower if what I ate that day was more filling.
>>77354171
I've been good about my proteins and fats, my carbs have been pretty low, maybe I'm slacking on some vitamins and minerals.

>>77354116
>>77354109
I was fasting then 1600 calories of cardio

I will be sleeping soon. If I wake up and weigh myself and I'm still in the range I've stalled in, I am raping everyone in this thread.

>>77354199
>1600 calories of cardio
w-what did you do?

Is there anything that tastes sweet and doesn't increase your bodyfat

>>77354237
artificial sweeteners

>>77354238
Why isn't aspartame chocolate a thing. I'd eat that shit all day

>>77354238
You're just going to crave more food after. You need to get over that hump and get your body used to eating boring routine shit so that the cravings go away.

>>77354258
How long until the cravings go away? I can't go for more than 1 or 2 days before giving in

>>77354237
fruit?

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>>77354253
buy unsweetened chocolate
melt it
add sweetener
temper it back into chocolate

tempering can be a bitch if you don't have a good thermometer, it'll still taste fine even if you fuck up the temper

I use monkfruit instead of aspartame, I'm sure they all work.

>>77354237
everything if it's inside your tdee

>>77354232
2 and a half hours of high intensity 3 on 3 basketball

>>77354346
But did you win tho
If not it was for nothing

>>77354253
It would still contain high levels of fat

>>77354288
Where the hell do I buy unsweetened chocolate

>have a 6 pack and bicep veins
>tape test estimates BF at 13-15%
>look in mirror
>face fat makes me look like I weigh 300lbs
I'm tired bros

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>>77354392
your grocery store will have it, it might be called 'baking chocolate'

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Good Morning.
Breakfast time

>>77354394
This is my biggest fear. To attain a healthy weight and still have a fat looking face

I just lost like 1kg in about six days is this good or bad

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>>77352501

>>77354450
Depends how much you weigh

>>77354450
Its good! But be warned its probably mostly just water.
Weightloss ≠ Fat Loss, and water can fluctuate by as much as 5kg over a week with zero fat gain/loss in a 90kg male.

>>77354458
75kg trying to get down to 60

>>77354461
I cut sugary drinks, junk food, eating little, and I do a job that requires me to move