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Poking around bookazone prime day
what pre-workout is good for strength training and not just caffeine?
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>>77352911
jack3d (Fórmula antigua)
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>>77352920
>jack3d
Jacked John Wick?
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>>77352931
no
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>>77352911

c4 alone is weak. you can get reg. c4 and add ur own citrulline, nitrosigine, nitrate, glycerol or whatever your intended goal is (stim, pump, endurance and so on)... i see that they have c4 ultimate for cheap so that's another option. use whatever c4 variant as ur base. and also consider something stronger like huge supps wrecked enraged/extreme or edge of insanity + a little booster stand alone like dmha for 1-2 times a week to avoid tolerance build up.

>>77352931
i have this and use it time to time, but it is so underwhelming compared to my daily, infinite pre, at the same caffeine dose. even after adding s7, vasodrive ap, nitrate, agmatine, and citrulline hcl, it still feels lacking. jacked factory products are def. good value, esp. their carb surge and glycerol, but some products are just hit or miss for some reason.
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>>77353028
Thats a lotta words
I think im gonna order the Jacked John Wick
I wont be adding random stuff though
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>>77353028
>Just buy a pre-workout and then add another pre-workouts worth of ingredients to it.

Please explain what you think the point of Prime Day is.
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>>77352911
Tadalfil and caffeine.
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>>77352911
In my experience only Arginine/L-Citrulline and Beta Alamine have an OK effect in my workouts outside of caffeine. For NO booster I use Beetroot juice. Betaine works but it doesn't need to be on your pre-workout.
These shits hit like a truck if you are new to caffeine, but A BUNCH of them are underdosed ie barely 2grs of L-Citrulline when the effective dose is around 8g. For hydration shit like Gatorade is cheaper as well and you want to hydrate more during and after the workout. They also have a lot of Complex B (it's cheap and it pads the list) when you really jusy pee the excess and you should get it from your diet, cheaper on Vitamin complexes.
Then there's this buttload of compounds like L-Carnitine that have very low absorbtion in the gut in supplement form.
And finally some brands add shit like creatine which should be taken daily and will provide NO benefit on a single dose.
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>>77353908
And don't get me started on "propieritary blends" which are just a mixture of underdosed compounds.
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>>77352911
I am going to create an energy drink that is only Niacin and Beta-Alanine

that way it makes you red and tingly without giving you energy
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>>77353129

if you wanna grow muscle, u shud at least dedicate some minutes to look up what you actually need. mediocre approach will only lead to mediocre results. god speed

>>77353599
it's the scam of preworkout market. almost everyone underdose their ingredients. one plausible way to add effective dosage of ingredients without adding excess caffeine is either make your own pre or buy a base and add the essential ingredients like citrulline to effective dose.
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>>77354186
So are you going to answer the question I posed or not?



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