honest opinions on bulking cutting cycle?
>>77354406No way that this guy is 21.7% bf17% absolute max
>>77354406online fitness discourse has an ebb and flow to it and right now it's in the era of maingaining, lean is law, +1 lb/month max, and muh 'science says you can only gain x pounds of muscle in y time'. it was an inevitable rubberbanding from the era of squatz and oatz, SS+GOMAD, gotta eat big to get big, and dick sizing big 3 totals. as usual, the best advice lies somewhere in between. 0.5-1 lbs/wk, a little more is fine is you're a skelly noob, or a little less if you're an experienced lifter. some young guys are way too afraid of putting on a little bodyfat. unless you're indian or genetic trash like OP's pic, working up to a BMI of 24-27 isn't gonna result in you looking fat
>>77354406>honest opinions on bulking cutting cycle?Doing them both at once is much better than the gay-ass time division multiplexing of one after the other that was so popular in O.G. bodybuilding. I'm usually running some insulin sensitizers plus upregulating Akt/p70S6K and knocking down mTORC1 in addition to other anti-catabolics at a minimum without doing any normie cutting/bulking drugs.
>>77354406Did you forget to without on your bulk?
>>77354437what drugs are you using for those purposes?
>>77354444"without" is a noun, you mean "with out"
>>77354445Some of my utilized agents targeting those pathways include ecdysterone, diosgenin, bamboo leaf extract, meclizine, kaempferol, and HMB.
>>77354406You don't want 'honest opinions.' You are one of the deranged people who doesn't exercise but comes on here and attempts to derail everyone else. In this case, discouraging people from bulking, the most effective way to actually build muscle.Why do you do this? Because you are evil, nothing more or less.
>>77354448kek
>>77354447Yeah don't do it. I got close to 20 and looked awful, I had to cut hard and I still look bad. Can't make gains now either with the cut being so aggressive. I'll only lean bulk from now on.
>>77354460But you have to bulk modestly. Not everyone needs to count every calorie, but as a rough guide you should be more than a couple hundred over.
>>77354437Serious questionWhy fuck with hormones so much? I have a friend who blasts gear, blasts peptides, trains like shit and all he's done in the last 12 months is go from being fat to average. Why not just put in the work and let your body manage itself?
>>77354406bulking is an evil memei hate that i listend to /fit/skinny fat = fat cut while on high protein diet und while liftingnever ever bulk
>>77354413>working up to a BMI of 24-27 isn't gonna result in you looking fatposted by a fatty ^>>77354437>Doing them both at once is much betterthe only sane comment here. nobody should be purpousely fat maxxing unless you're playing a sport professionally where you need mass or maybe a personal bodyguard/club bouncer
>>77354447This is the only Wog post where he’s right
>>77354447>>77354661Yep, and it's even in the sticky that no one reads
>~20-25% bodyfat>170 cm>47 kg
>>77354406There's been a rapid and massive influx of cutting and bulking threads lately, and I wonder what it is. Idk why people can't just maintain their bodyweight year round and slightly increase their calories and lift when they want to gain mass. I guess I just naturally assume most people here are shuttons who have eating disorders because they're unhappy and they want an excuse to mainline Ben and Jerry's.
This guy has a gf btw while /fit/cels are 12% bodyfat spending their summer in their basements lmao
>>77354758>This guy has a gf btwhow do normies live like that?i could neverimagine forcing your gf to fuck this kind of body - 0 lust whatsoever
im 175cm lean bulking to 90kg from 65kg at 0.25kg of weight a week and theres nothing you can do to stop meI NEED to bench 2pl8 by the end of the year, I mustThen I will cut to flat belly and maingain 4eva....this was my plan a few months ago, im now 75kg and benching 3x8 55kg....dont think im gonna make it to 2pl8 by december bros :(
>>77354960bro you’re not that tall you dont need that much mass unless you want a belly
>>77355975But i want to bench 2pl8 :^[
>>77354960> benching 3x8 55kg....dont think im gonna make it to 2pl8 by december bros You should mix it up a bit and try some 5 aswell
>>77354406dude forgot to lift weights during his bulk cycle
>"bulking" over 15% as a natty EVER
