How do you go on? I have been struggling with paranoia since childhood. It got really bad during puberty, but it seems slightly better now. I quit medication all together, most of it had no real effect or improvment on me. it either made me extremly numb like most of SSRIs or straight up didn't work.
>>77362156Dude this 4chump.The only replies you will get are from incels pretending they are so cool and tough that they have complete control over their mind and bodies and will tell you that you are just a pussy for not taking full control of their minds like them.Of course they cant even look a girl in the eye and say hello, but whatever.
>>77362156I had couple of hallucinations ever since I was a kid. I had massive migraines during my childhood. I had dozens of dejavus on daily basis during my childhood. Went to multiple psychologists and psychiatrists. Did a lot of drugs to try and remedy myself in teenage years and 20s. Did almost all of the drugs aside 4mmc and some research chemicals. I had violent intrusive thoughts, delusions of grandeur, God talked to me through angel numbers on license plates. Did cerebrolysin and a bunch of different other nootropics to try and fix it.The only thing i can suggest is healthy eating and living. Most schizophrenics can get their symptoms under control if they eat organic and get out in the sun and start exercising. 80% in the west have magnesium deficiency, 90% have vitamin D3 deficiency and 95% have vitamin B1 deficiency and almost 90% have Omega 3 deficiency. Your mind is part of your body and your body is part of your mind. Gut-brain-skin axis is frontier of current medical science and most of "mental" disease are actually gut microbiome dysbiosis and vagus nerve over stimulation. But you need to fix your oral microbiome (because that is upstream). Kill streptoccocus mutans with xylitol pulling and iodine mouthwash. Also stop eating sugar shit.Best of luck. You can do it friend.
>>77362168Thanks fren, i have been following healthy lifestyle for past 6 years. Agreed on magnesium and d3 part, they gave me significant better changes, out of all suppliments.>>77362164it's alright man, atleast i will have one meaningful convo with someone.
>>77362156for SSRIs and depression I suggest red light therapy, vitamin d3+k2, magnesium bysglicinate, high doses of creatine, cold showers and looking in general sun direction first thing when you wake up (so sun hits your eyes)put it on google calendar as a to do, do one thing at the time, dont overwhelm yourself and be kind to yourself
>>77362173>Agreed on magnesium and d3 part, they gave me significant better changes, out of all suppliments.look into vitamin b1 as well, most people, especially mentally ill are HIGHLY deficient. To check if you are just drink one freshly juiced orange glass from organic orangesif they give you extreme vigor and energy then that is your sign to look into b1 and other b vitamins
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ADHD, anxiety, depression. Managed (somewhat) with adderall (daily, would not be funtional at any level without), try for 2 hours purposeful physical activity daily (I have a physical condition as well that requires this but it staves off the spiral as well), caffeine and weed (as sneeded but in extreme moderation, weed one night a week; caffeine never past 1pm, never for more than a month or two without doing a full reset) is the general guideline I've come to and have gotten better, still a worthless retard but its something
>>77362156I have avoidant personality disorder and it’s pretty much destroyed any chance of having relationships. Being a NEET makes the pain go away because I don’t have to constantly struggle in life anymore. I wish the world didn’t revolve around people and your ability to socialize like a normoid
>>77362156learn to let go, distract urself with something you can focus for a while (lifting, gaming).>>77362197i had the most severe case of ADHD ever. when i studied, i studied for 3-4min, then web browsed for next 20-30min and repeat. it took me 10-12 hours to finish what a normal person can finish in 1 hour or less. my ultimate solution was to read out loud as i read and also write out the entire fucking textbook when i study to burn the information into my head. i wrote out an entire fucking ochem book when i was premed.
>>77362280a fellow avpd guy? yeah, avoidant personality disorder has ruined my entire life.
>>77362176>looking in general sun direction first thing when you wake up (so sun hits your eyes)the sun is already up when you have to wake up? even in winter?
>>77362156Just go on what else is there. I mostly go out at night because there's less people and cars lot less you have to be cautious about it's freeing in a big way to just have the outdoors to yourself and an empty gym.
>>77362156do a parasite and toxin cleanse because they cause all sorts of mental problems
I thought for years that I was schizoid, turns out it's avoidant personality disorder. So yeah that kind of explains how I'm made it to 34 with zero social development, no career development, and no life achievements. When I discovered some avoidant personality discussion groups, it feels like I'm reading my own biography>how do you go on?Because as you could guess from this disorder, I'm too cowardly to kill myself, that's the only way I go on. I have been thinking for months about just texting my parents that they won't see me again, turning off my phone and walking off into the woods or somewhere to die or doing something to kill myself but every time, I get too afraid to and just continue suffering in misery.
>>77362156Nobody here has a real mental illness. It’s toxic narcissism, cope over being an incel and lack of socialisation. Usually all three.Same with religion, nobody here is religious, but plenty of grifters using that label to judge others.It’s a horrible place desu
>>77362156>SSRIsOY VEY In all seriousness OP, just white knuckle it and stop being gay. Simple as.
>>77362666People like you are such useless ignorant retards.Don't chime in if you've got nothing.
>>77362676>useless I'm not the one hiding indoors though am I?
>>77362666>>77362687We're all already white-knuckling it. You're pretty much telling the mental equivalent of ambulatory wheelchair users to 'just walk faggot' and mocking them for their struggles.
>>77362156my only mental problem is coping with my non-chad low tier normie status with my upper midwit IQ
>>77362156I had similar problems, unironically when I dialed nutrition and fitness, not just gym, it improved A LOT. especially extreme sports help I think. I do mountaineering and when you face REAL danger you understand how trivial most shit are so you stop caring about dumb shit, ie. most anxieties about life. of course I still get those problems sometimes but just say ''yep, anxiety again'' and move on. Also, reading philosophy and having a mindset really change how you think too. When you accept life as it is, and find meaning in everything including suffering and start to live your life for real everything improves. ''He who has a why to live can bear almost any how'' is a good quote. Unironically start reading nietzsche, and find the ''why'' for your life. best of luck to you anon, I truly understand you since I once stood where you stood. If you cold turkeyed your medications that was a mistake btw, SSRI withdrawal fucks you up you should taper it. im quitting them myself, halved my dose and i'll probably stop taking them all together in like 3 months
>>77362156You need to learn what it means to truly trust someone and be trusted, and that reciprocity and accountability go far beyond transactional equilibrium. This will form a foundation for you to be able to seek out making bonds with better people and gradually distance yourself from your paranoia.
>>77362280>I wish the world didn’t revolve around people and your ability to socialize like a normoidYour wish has been granted, it now revolves around the sun.
>>77362280What you're actually saying is that you're scared of people and want social gains delivered to you on a silver plate.They're gains, retard.
>>77362280I have the same shit but I’m able to socialise with normies because I like money lol
>>77362687You're on an anime website arguing with people who pretend they lift weights.So yeah, most likely.
Sorry you’re so upset
>>77362156>How do you go on?
I was diagnosed with panic disorder with agoraphobia and paranoid schizophrenia. For me meds just werk. I finally can go outside and not want to hide in my home, started walking on a treadmill etc. One thing that is bad about the meds is that I gained like 20 kg in 2 years. Trying to lose it though.
>>77362156Besides gym, cause the clacking of plates clears my mind, Buddhism. Specifically Bankai Zen. The best contemporary explanation I can give is picrel...
>>77363266>Bankai ZenMy bad, Bankei Zen
>>77362156no paranoia, but bpd male. you pretty much just gotta keep going. eat clean, don't get addicted to alcohol/weed. learn to recognize when you're behaviors aren't grounded in reality. find God.
>>77362156How do you not just talk yourself out of it?>I feel like someone has bugged my smoke alarms and is listening to me>hold up, that's not a thought that occurs to most people>and actually none of my paranoid ideas in the past turned out to be true>I'll ignore this latest thought because it's probably wrong and the self inflicted stress isn't worth the 0.0000001% chance I'm right this timeSee, easy
>>77362156People aren't gonna like this but I genuinely think moderate drinking is like a cheat code for mental health. Having the odd beer in the evening or some wine with dinner or a cocktail out and about I think has vastily improved my mental health.Should you be a chronic drunk downing vodka before bed? No. But having a relaxing and healthy relationship with alcohol can really make life more tolerable.For thousands of years we believed booze kept us sane and happy: It was a ration every sailor, soldier, and farmer needed. Consider it regularly dosing yourself with happiness. Teetotalers and teetotaler societies are always far more deranged and unhappy Forget SSRIs and therapy, just buy some ale and give yourself a moment to live simply
>>77362873>i have avoidant personality but i have no problems socializing lolok
>>77362280Oh look another imaginary disorder dropped
>>77362156This is what you do OP (trust me bro)No fapNo pornNo videogames Combat sports (bjj, ideally striking+. 1 fight first but you are too scared)This cured my anxiety. I used to not be able to shit or piss or breathe properly around others. I used to feel awkward around others. now idgaf lol
>>77362156If you think the government is taking advantage of you or the jews are stealing your gains, you belong in an insane asylum. Think of all the heterosexual muscle jews who helped make you big and sexy so that you can post your physique for hot chicks to look at.
I have bipolar disorder.The meds give me a foundation to work with, but they wouldn't work properly without proper exercise, diet and good sleep quality.
>>77364375This. I was diagnosed with OCD and ADHD (the OCD is mild and I don't believe the ADHD diagnosis) and my therapist thinks I probably have general anxiety too. Started having a beer or two a few nights a week and it feels like everything's gotten a whole lot better.
>>77365079>Started having a beer or two a few nights a week and it feels like everything's gotten a whole lot better.what could possibly go wrong with self-medicating with alcohol
>>77365171Having a period of time where I can be more present, not hyperfocused on obsessive thoughts, aided by the effects of a mild anxiolytic helps me to break free from obsessive compulsive cycles and intrusive thought loops. Its the same idea as why psychedelics are able break people out of depressive cycles and why antidepressants, anxiolytics, and even ADHD meds show effects for periods of time after cessation. The brain gets stuck in maladaptive loops, and, at least for me, drinking occasionally allows me to break free from that.
>>77365186alright anon, just be careful because this is exactly what the beginning of a dependency sounds like.
>>77362156Been on schizo jab for 10+ years. I have a normal life, i have a job, a car, i pay my own bills and i can get women. I have severe dyscinesia from the schizo jab, i started taking akineton one month ago. I had to stop akineton due to extreme nausea and the side effects of the jab hit me hard. This morning i was feeling like i wanted to kill myself because of how fucking bad i felt and my gf left me because she said im scary after taking care of her and spending a shitload of money on her driving myself basically into bankrupcy and debt. She was a schizo too, i took care of her on all of her breakdowns and she kicked me to the curb because i was feeling awful due to the fucked up meds i have to take. My family also tossed me aside. I basically did everything in life perfectly, i got to be successful and im still not good enough for everyone else. Im tired of being alive. Im not even depressed, psychotic, anxious or angry. Im numb. Im so fucking done.
>>77364375I mean the problem is sticking to moderationI too get happy under booze but I end up going for just one more before the voices come back
>>77362156Hey anon that's me, but instead of paranoia its crippling suicidal depressionTried 3 different antidepressants over the years and they didn't fix shit, only made me tired whenever I would have otherwise felt like blowing my head off. Eventually got off all of them just in time for my ex wife to rugpull my life.I hit rock bottom about a year after, loaded up my carry gun and pointed it at my heart and pulled the trigger and was treated to the click of a misfire. It changed something in me and I was overcome with the sensation in my mind that I was not meant to die yet. Haven't been able to point my weapons at myself since.Point is you have to come out the other side some time, but it might get worse (a LOT worse) until then.Eat meat, lift heavy and meditate. I believe in you, anon.
>>77364982You’re one of those just be yourself man guys? Firm handshakes and eye contact?
>>77364989>No videogamesThose are ok but i agree with the rest
>>77365260I hope things get better anon
im gay and retarded but i still manage to lose weight and maintain a healthy balanced diet
>>77365573Just like your daddy that never loved you.
>>77362156>lifting>eating kind of healthy>alcohol>jerking off in moderation>trying to clean up after myself a little (and being proud of myself for doing it)>accepting I wasn't made for friends and romance (this really helped)>focussing as close to 100% as I can on myself>watching and listening to things from the past that make me happy but trying not to live in nostalgia landI grew up during a Civil War. My 2nd earliest memory is being punched in the face. I have *felt* bombs go off. I have every right to be paranoid.
I wish I would have gone on antidepressants and anti anxiety medications like everyone else is on. It might have given me the chance to have a functional life. Instead I never went on any drugs and have just lived with my severe depression and crippling anxiety that have rendered me a completely and utterly useless loser in my 30s. I guess this is chronic mental illness
>>7736215640 year old Anon here. If you are young, I strongly suggest seeking out professional mental health services. It's like your physical health. The earlier you intervene, the better. Do it for future you.
I think getting /fit/ with unmedicated ADHD is impossible. I've been lifting off-and-on for years but have never made any actual progress so I still look dyel.>if I'm going to lift, then I'll need to eat>if i'm going to eat, then i'll need to cook>if i'm going to cook, i'll need to go out and buy food
>>77367067You're fucking retarded, adhd is fiction, i was diagnosed with adhd too and i can bench 405 without amphetamine derivatives
>>77366948I agree. If I would have intervened in my mental illness and social avoidance when it was developing as a teenager I might have had a chance to have a decent life. Now I’m mid 30s and have completely wasted my entire life from the depression, misery, giving up, and mental spiraling that has never ceased
